Artmessiah 10-26-07 (ringling Student)

[artmessiah]

Hi Everyone, New Stuff In Back.

[Marie]

welcome to the boards, and the sketchbook section :)

That first rendering is awesome! I think you did a great job on it.

Everything is looking pretty neat, then I got down to your watercolor <3 ... just started trying to learn to use them and loved to see what you've done, it gives me somewhere to shoot for, I'd wondered how they lent themselves to portraiture... seen some pretty nice stuff online and love yours here in the sketchbook.

Can't wait to see more from you, especially sketche... seeing the artist mind in process is something I will never take for granted so keep posting :) and welcome.

*edit* oh and i'm so sorry about losing artwork, its something thats unique, special and irreplacable (sp?), I hope you never have to go through that again, good luck

[Marie]

oh question ~!

What are you using to draw first on what you will watercolor? graphite pencil lightly, water color pencil, or something else? or transferring it on? or... I'm interested and curious, they look great.

[artmessiah]

oh question ~!

What are you using to draw first on what you will watercolor? graphite pencil lightly, water color pencil, or something else? or transferring it on? or... I'm interested and curious, they look great.

Hi Marie, thanks for the comments :)
I start my watercolors off with very light (3H) pencil outlines and then build up my colors - transparent to dark and sometimes opaque. Thats it. :) I thought about using watercolor pencils - I may try them out when I start my next painting.

[Marie]

I can not wait to see more of your paintings :) ! And thank you so much for answering my question.

Take care and good luck.

[mentler]

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[artmessiah]

Few more sketches. I've had a little more time to draw and I'm taking advantage. I need to get my groove back.

[CRØW]

Nice work. I really like the first image and your water colors are looking good. My only comment is that while your anatomy is pretty good on those pieces it is off on your "comic" work. Your comic style seems a little like Rob Liefeld (which isn't great). But it shows promise. Try injecting more of your traditional style into the comic drawings. I think you'll be happier with the results. Otherwise, great stuff. I really dig the half-finished watercolor of the girl that is "squatting" down, I really think it's your strongest piece of all of these. Keep up the good work! :)

[artmessiah]

Thanks for the crit. I'm trying to define myself artistically. I'm studying more and more traditional anatomy and hopefully I'll begin to become more organic in more approach - if that makes sense. BTW Rob was an early influence, but I'm trying to shake it ;-)

[fooxoo]

Not bad at all! Keep postin. Nice watercolours. I suck at them :P

[max1975]

There's some pretty wickedly impressive stuff here. I agree with CRØW's critique on your comic book stuff, although some of it is better than others.

A few words about noses: I don't particularly like the strong convex line to define the side, like you use here:
http://www.edenswordproductionz.com/artwork/TheDestroyer.jpg

Now in that one, it's not too bad because it seems to go with the character's personality. But I think you want to be aware that a bold line like that is more of a character feature than a style feature, if that makes sense. I think it's less appropriate on the woman here, for example: http://www.edenswordproductionz.com/artwork/arabianbeauty.jpg. It conveys a sort of brute force and arrogance that not everyone posesses.

This one's my favorite: http://www.edenswordproductionz.com/artwork/chubw.jpg

Thanks for stopping by my book. Any chance of seeing some religiously drawn transformers here? :)

[artmessiah]

I'm been having a ball playing around with my wacom. I am now officially hooked on digital painting. I sketched a bunch of doodles for the last couple of days and I decided to take one of those doodles and attempt to paint a complete picture. All total about an 40 mins thus far. I may have to put this aside cause I'm moving down to Sarasota tomorrow and I need to finish packing, but I couldn't stop playing with this thing (wacom):^^: I love art :teeth: This is my first photoshop painting - work in progress :rendered:

[incolorinred]

dude!! i'm glad i stumpled on this. You have some really nice drawings. Some of your pencil drawings have such a cool photographic realism to them. specifically the drawing of the asian girl. Then you seem to switch it up to a comic like style for the character dudes.

Looks really good. I'll keep my eyes peeled for me updates!

[Zulle]

Insane rendering skills in your photo refs
uh and i like that one http://www.edenswordproductionz.com/artwork/QueenPen.jpg
its wicked! <3
you got a unique comic style dont listen to the haters ;)

[-j-]

nice and clean. these are fun to look at, and you've got a lot of range. the only real crit that i have is to watch those ellipses. keet at it!

[metroeast]

Your stuff is getting better. You aren't lying. I would work on your perspective more in your pages (Don't be hard on yourself, mine is not up to par either.) Do the old school stuff like establishing a vanishing point and draw those lines to the vanishing point.

I am constantly tempted to skip it an go by eye, but it never works for me.

Keep up the good work. I will watch your progress.

[artmessiah]

Sorry to take so long in responding, I had to move (again). I'm still unpacking, but my computer and sketchpad were the first things out the box :) I'll finish my painting sometime this week, but I'll keep posting progression pics until done.

incolorinred, thanx for the kind words. I'll try to update as much as possible.

Zulle, Thanks you for boosting my confidence in my comic book style :rendered: . I don't look at honest critz given by other artist as haters though. I am and will always be into comics, but I am trying to increase my range and unfortunately lots of folks turn their nose up at comic art - with good reason sometimes. Comic book anatomy tends to be off. I'm trying to find a happy blend of traditional and fantasy. I'm glad you liked my unfinished painting. The sad things is it will never get done. A crazy women ripped it to shreds in an argument - needless to say we aren't together anymore, LOL!

-J-, thanx for big-up, but what ellipses are you referring too???

Metroeast, you are absolutely right about my perspective. I'm working hard to improve on that. I really want to get better.

BTW I checked out all of your sketchbooks and all of them had outstanding work. I'll try to stay on top of checking them out and leaving my 2 cents. :)

[Pixeldragoon]

Nice lookin' stuff. :D

[flipperkun]

You are very good Artmessiah, really! Some tight drawing skills and smart use of watercolors, you managed to get very realistic and still get such a personal rendering on yr stuff.

That kicks *** my friend. Keep them coming and I'll keep visiting this thread!:vodkamachine:

[timpaatkins]

How the f**k didnt you get in to Ringling? What did you apply for?

[cw]

Really like the stuff from ref - top notch!

neat watercolors too - i never got on with them myself.

Good to see you've got into the digi-style, saves a lot in materials :P

good luck with the future!

[sula_nebouxi]

artmessiah...I'd like to see your portfolio that you sent in to Ringling. Maybe we can pinpoint what went wrong and we can fix that so that you're prepared the next time around. I know that Ringling doesn't like to see comic book sytes in there(unless you're like Alex Ross). They want to see your own style rather than you trying to imitate another. They also seem to frown on drawings that are drawn from photos.

Don't get discouraged though. I got rejected from SVA a year before I came to Ringling. Rejection only made me want to try harder. I improved and I applied to Ringling(since they're actually better than SVA and it's harder to get in) Now, I'm here in Ringling typing this out. Rejection is just a hurdle, you gotta get up and jump the next.

[setmonkey]

awesome watercolours - rare to see them done that well

[tgfx]

Wow great work there man. I send you an email about a Question i had.

[damdischink]

cool stuff

[Johann de Venecia]

Great pencils! Really tight. Lovin' the sketch of the asian girl in your first update. Was that from life? I find that it is more dynamic than your later sketches of the self portrait and the baby. I guess because the later were based on actual photographs (which does diminish depth a great deal). Update more goodies, hope to see some more in color as well. Cheers!

[tensai]

really dope pencils and watercolours in here man. theyre quite tight but still have enough life in them. love your line quality as well.
about ringling - youll be that much stronger when you get in there next year. if you keep this up and work on stuff you dont know as well im sure youll be banging and learn so much.

edit - i just went through some really good threads from people attending Watts. have you thought about doing some classes overthere for half a year or so? you can start and finish just about anytime it seems. check this thread for example
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42713&page=2

keep it up

[rblitz7]

you got some skills man! keep it up, and post!

[mbetteker]

Very nice life drawings. Very nice. You can shade like the best when you want to. I want to see more high detail drawings like that first one, very impressive. keep it up!

[artmessiah]

Very nice life drawings. Very nice. You can shade like the best when you want to. I want to see more high detail drawings like that first one, very impressive. keep it up!

Thanks man - I'll try.

[artmessiah]

Again most of these are from school. The concepts are all done in my sketch pad except the pic of the Voodoo old woman which was done on my wacom tablet. My new scanner sucks ass btw - sorry had to say it.

[artmessiah]

Here is some more stuff. The last one was for my 2d Design class - lots of fun.

[artmessiah]

I've decided to ditch my sketchpad on my free time. I'm really diggin of the wacom tablet. For some odd reason I free more free to make mistakes - my sketches aren't so precious and that too me is a good thing cause it speeds things up.

Here my sketches today. This guy is a concept sketch to a graphic novel. I got about 6 more concepts to due so I'll keep this thread updated as much as possible. Oh yeah I want to give a shout out to ssmith for making my day.

[Beelow]

Nice renders, more impressed with the watercolor pieces. Post more! XD

[Johann de Venecia]

The sketch of the boot looks great, as are the fruits. Theguy feeding the birds is good, but the gesture seems rather stiff, perhaps because of the shortened neck. My favourite out of the chain of updates has to be the old shaman woman though. Lots of character. Good stuff, dude.

[artmessiah]

@ Beelow
I'll try and do more watercolor most people seem to like em.

@ Lukavi
Your right about the last one looking stiff. I can't figure it out. I don't know if it's he's neck or the folds I put in his jacket sleeves, but he does look stiff. I'll have to continue on working more loose. Thanks for checking the new stuff out.

[Dreamworker]

It is very cool SB! you have a nice style and a realy good drawing skills.
I like to see more of your works, keep it up :)
ciao

[dCepT]

Hey! Thanks for dropping by my SB! Lots of strong work in here. Your rendering is very very good! One crit though: When you're doing characters and most noteably faces, you have a tendency to skew them a bit... the far side isn't following form around the head. The old "flip the image" trick might do you wonders :)

Keep 'em coming!

d-C

[artmessiah]

Hey! Thanks for dropping by my SB! Lots of strong work in here. Your rendering is very very good! One crit though: When you're doing characters and most noteably faces, you have a tendency to skew them a bit... the far side isn't following form around the head. The old "flip the image" trick might do you wonders :)

Keep 'em coming!

d-C

Good idea :) - I'll try that. BTW about your SB - it's always a pleasure checking out good work.

[artmessiah]

These are just two in a bunch of 30 second figure gestures. I did these today in class. I swear I go thru newsprint within 2 or 3 days. I'll post more substantial stuff tonight or tomorrow. It'll probably be more concept art.

[JERI]

Whoa, nice handling of light/shadow values, especially in your life sketches and watercolors. Good stuff with the details too.

One thing I'd like to mention is that the body and facial proportions of your characters in your first post stand out as rather inconsistent. I feel your facial proportions are way better in your recent updates, I reckon your body proportions makes more sense too, but will wanna see more stuff before I can say anything else about them.

Keep it up dude!

[artmessiah]

Another character concept for the graphic novel I've been commissioned to do. This one was fairly quick. Done on my wacom in like 20 or 25 minutes.

[Niva.]

Wow, this is a great SB, very good results when you render stuff. I like the asian girl in particular. Also your still-life drawings are unreal, the one with the reflections on the surface is amazing. You get 4 stars from me, keep posting and thanks for visiting.

[artmessiah]

More figure drawing stuff from school. This was a 10 min sit, but I actually only drew for about 5 min, but I like the line variation. I must admit, I'm learning a lot from this class, I'm glad I took it.

[artmessiah]

Wow, this is a great SB, very good results when you render stuff. I like the asian girl in particular. Also your still-life drawings are unreal, the one with the reflections on the surface is amazing. You get 4 stars from me, keep posting and thanks for visiting.

Thanks man. I did not want to draw a fruit still life, but my professor properly motivated me ;) I liked the way it turned out too. School has it's perks - it forces you to think better of yourself if the competitions there.

[thesinfulsaint]

Man do you have some awesome gesture drawings. I find those especially challenging. Keep up the great work, man. Hope to see you at Ringling (for both of our sakes) in the fall of '07. :)

[Johann de Venecia]

Hey Bruce! (hehe hope you don't mind me calling you that, I like calling people by their first name. You can call me Johann btw)

Cool figure drawing from the sep.5 update :)

The character portrait from sep.8 is my favourite out of the recent updates. Nice clean lines! I want to do lines that clean.

[Uziel]

Nice sketchbook.
keep doing those figure studies.
love http://wayne-enterprizes.com/artwork/figure2.jpg
but figure1 has a problem in the facial area.
Try also to do some studies from the mind.
Have fun.

[artmessiah]

Hey Bruce! (hehe hope you don't mind me calling you that, I like calling people by their first name. You can call me Johann btw)

Cool figure drawing from the sep.5 update :)

The character portrait from sep.8 is my favourite out of the recent updates. Nice clean lines! I want to do lines that clean.

Hey Johann I don't mind at all. You talk about my clean lines, but I want to do more colored finished paintings like you got going on. Thanks for checking out my updates and can't wait to see yours. BTW my name is Wayne. That's where the nick name of Bruce came from - a.k.a "Bruce Wayne" ;)

[rblitz7]

Really cool stuff here man, I love the boot! Some of the figure drawings have some proportion issues.

[artmessiah]

@ rblitz7 - Hey thanks for stopping by and checking out my work. You mentioned some of my figure drawings have proportion issues. Please if have time specifically mention the areas of distortion. I want to try and correct what others may see that I at times overlook.

@ Uziel - Thanks for viewing. I'll been doing figure drawing for at least 9 more months - hopefully I'll tighten up by the end of the school year. Same question to you as rblitz7 - what in your opinion looks odd with my faces (or other body parts for the that matter).

Take care both of you :)

[Haxxxor]

oh dude this is some good stuff around here!
your comicstyle drawings are great but the style seems very similar to other styles... not much intresting.

your studies and portraits are very good i like them more then the comic things.

keep it up!

pls visit my sketchbook

[sith]

very strong work in here. the early comic book stuff looks fantastic, but those still lifes are just sick man. keep doin what you're doin man- great variety in here

[artmessiah]

very strong work in here. the early comic book stuff looks fantastic, but those still lifes are just sick man. keep doin what you're doin man- great variety in here

Thank you. I'm trying to update this thing but school work is getting in the way and I don't want to post a bunch of bridgman studies. I'm striving to get better - can't wait to post again hopefully by the end of this week - muwah ha haaa! ;)

[Mr-Joe]

Hey bruce. Crazy good studies man.

Real good shading and line work.

Whats that picture in your Icon, looks like something from an animation, I'm curious.

Joe.

[artmessiah]

Hey bruce. Crazy good studies man.

Real good shading and line work.

Whats that picture in your Icon, looks like something from an animation, I'm curious.

Joe.

It's the Grim portrait of Bruce Wayne from the animated series "Batman Beyond" :)
BTW thanks for checking out my work.

[artmessiah]

These two are both 20 min sits for the model.

I tried working fast and preserving the detail as best as I could. Turned out decent, but I definitely want to improve on using light and shadow to define images along with contour lines.

[magnut]

artmessiah,

First, I like your work. There is a strength in your drawings that demonstrates that you're likely going to do lots of really great things in your future.

Be prepared. I'm going to be blunt, because I assume you wish to get work as a professional, and the only way to get there is to have direct criticism. Also, your work seems to be touching certain Quality Standard Buttons in me. So here goes...

There is a great contrast from your comics work to your life drawing work. I believe you greatly need to infuse as much of your life drawing sensibilities into your comics work as you possibly can. Your life drawings have a very nice fluid quality to them, in the sense that the figures (especially your gestures) feel more 'natural', or 'believable', because of this fluidity.

Your comics work, however, looks as if you've totally clenched your whole body (from head to toe) while you've been holding your pencil. It also looks as if you apply your pencil lines while holding your pencils with the Kung Fu Grip Of Death. Most every single thing you've drawn in your comics pages looks as if you've leaned your body weight into each line.

Part of the reason why, it seems, is that your stuff looks like you're trying to draw things like Rob Liefeld. This is a terrible idea. Rob Liefeld makes his living as someone who swipes from so many other people's compositions, outright tracing other people's work. His drawing is constantly re-hashed crap. He's been in the right place at the right time more often than not during his career, so he's been more lucky with his success, instead of getting by on solid good quality drawing ability.

Rob Liefeld simply cannot draw the paper bag that he can't draw his way out of, unless Arthur Adams drew it first.

I make this point to let you know that I can see that you're better than that. I can tell this because of your life drawings. You have the ability to actually DRAW, rather than simply to put a bunch of things that you've seen from various others' drawings into your own.

I see your influences in your drawings, and I see you have a good eye for what's strong and powerful. But, if you make every single thing (hair, skin, every part of a person's physique) into the MOST TAUT, MOST TENSE-LOOKING thing, then EVERYTHING will have this same look. Just like your comics work currently does.

You're applying the same TAUT TENSE sensibilities to skin, same as you do the stone floor in the 6th pic of post #1, which has the SAME HARSH sensibilites as the metal gun, as the body armor, as... well, the hair you draw has as many steroids in them as your figures seem to do.

Well, you get my point. You really need to vary up your application of line. Let soft and flowing hair LOOK like it's soft and flowing, as contrasted by the sharp treatment of slick body armor, as contrasted by the erratic texturing of a stone wall, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Also, you REALLY need to start doing more and more complex perspective shots for your environments. In Rob Liefeld's whole career, you can still likely count on one hand the number of actual backgrounds that he's put into his comics panels. This does NOT include the basic first-grade level, diagramatically underdeveloped horizontal/vertical lines that he uses to "simulate" a background. This does not ALSO include the simplistic cookie-cutter way he draws scraggly triangles, trying to present them as (terribly drawn) mountains and/or trees. It's amazing how he's spent a whole career avoiding doing any actual quality drawing.

This is a very low standard to shoot for. You're much better than that.

I hope you try to pick and choose where you apply your more harsh unforgiving linework, and where you apply your more sensitive linework that makes the sexy things sexy, the powerful things powerful, and the variously textured items that actually LOOK like those various textures. Overall, your comics linework looks like all the same harsh line, making everything look very plastic. There's nothing really convincing in your comics work, as there is in your life drawing work.

And, I sincerely hope you put actual environments into your work. Not the Liefeld-like simple flat-on-flat walls that I'm seeing.

I know you can read this criticism as nothing but harsh, but it IS NOT. I promise you, Liefeld is one of so very few people who have been lucky enough to get away with such lazy crap work... please don't think you'll beat the odds to do the same.

If you don't change your drawing priorities now, this is where you're heading.

[Johann de Venecia]

Looking good, dude. These figure drawings remind me that I need to go and take figure drawing classes again. Youre lines have noticably become more relaxed compared to the first samples, I'd say you know where your taking your stuff and its a good place. Keep developing the flow, you already have the line confidence. Looking forward to more good stuff.

[kuroart]

nice stuff. looking better and better. I'm really diggin the life drawings. The comic art is getting real good too.
Keep it up.

[artmessiah]

@ Magnut,
Thank you for such an impassioned and honest critique of my work. Although the early Image Comics boys such as Rob Liefield, Jim Lee, and Todd McFarlene has had an influence on my comic style - trust me I am totally NOT going to forget my recent and better understanding of anatomy. I was, and perhaps still am a tiny fan of Liefield's grimmacing faces and aggressive lines - tho that comparison you showed me lets me know were his integrity lies. IMVHO I'm a better artist now than he was then, but I truly respect everyone’s art and vision; even his. I agree with you, my comic style can sometimes get stiff or static (to many unnecessary lines :) ). I'm experimenting now and trying to infuse my gesture energy and motion into my personal work as you said. It is really important for animation art to have life. I am slowly improving. Again thank you such an honest critique - I appreciate it.

@ lukavi,
Thanks for stopping by. I'm drawing perhaps more than I've done in a minute - mostly life stuff, but a ton of drawings and I think this is helping me relinquish control of my death grip ;) on my pencil and search for a more sensible line. BTW take a class or two, it's always good.

[artmessiah]

nice stuff. looking better and better. I'm really diggin the life drawings. The comic art is getting real good too.
Keep it up.

Thank you for the stopping by. Take care

[Lee W]

very impressive life drawings .. especially the one with the vase, perfume bottle and what looks like a can of hair spray, did a wonderful job of rendering the glass and reflective surfaces. As for comic art, John Buscema, Neal Adams, and Gil Kane are the ones to imitate :)

[magnut]

OldNoobie is RIGHT!

Okay, maybe not imitate so much, but certainly to learn from.

Also good to learn from:

- Burne Hogarth (his Tarzan work is amazing, along with all his art books)
- Michael W. Kaluta
- Klaus Janson!! His work is among the most passionate there is. Klaus can get very eggagerated, and yet simultaneously show the most powerful things along with the most supple.
- Alex Toth: amazing use of graphic values!
- Jose Luis Garcia Lopez: One of the most underrated people of all time, yet he can draw rings around most people!
- Doug Braithwaite: consummate detail work on amazingly well drawn figures and environments!

I'm so very happy you're not one of the Liefeldian zombies. I look forward to your future work!

Good luck!

[JERI]

These two are both 20 min sits for the model.

I tried working fast and preserving the detail as best as I could. Turned out decent, but I definitely want to improve on using light and shadow to define images along with contour lines.

I might suggest with this one that you use either finer lines or stronger, more defined contrast.

[Beelow]

Like the life drawing stuff dude, keep posting!XD

[artmessiah]

Beelow - thanks, I'll keep posting them.

Jeri - I think you are right - I might even try to do away with the lines all together with my next value study. That should help me define more constrast between light and shadow.

Magnut - I think you Oldnoobie and I are kindred spirits ;) I have all the Hogarth books as well as the Bridgman stuff - I learned a lot from both artist. Klaus Janson, Alex Toth, Jose Luis Garcia Lopez (who I like alot - his "Voodoo" comic series was tight), and Doug Braithwaite are artist I'm familiar with. They influence me as does Frank Frazzetta, Jae Lee, and Brom. I'll keep postin man and try new things artistically.

OldNoobie - You know my art teacher hated that drawing for whatever reason - he said it looked too flashy and artificial :( I now feel vindicated :teeth: Thanks for the advice bout the artist - If I would emulate anyone, the ones you mentioned would be the ones I'd go for. Thank you and take care.

[artmessiah]

Alrighty, Here some more figure drawing gestures. This time it's done with ink and water instead of vine chalk. These type of exercises force me to think and work critically - searching for the most important shadows and features. These were 10 min poses

[Xelt]

Love the sketchbook.

Magnut, great crit. This is for you

DO THE LIEFIELD TWIRL!!!

[masterpug]

I think the comic stuff is coming along, but it is a huge leap from your life-drawings to the comics you seem to love to do. I noticed in a lot of your earlier works the woman's breasts were spread WAY apart, though that seems to be coming away. I would like to address one specific (I don't mean to prattle), I think you need to work on hands. There are certain hand poses that look very convincing and powerful, and those that don't. Just try drawing your own hands in different poses to get it. Also, on the comic character, the hands seem small. Just a basic physiology thing is that to the human eye, large hands are more acceptable than small ones. If you don't believe me, look at Final Fantasy IX, Mikey Mouse, or even the WoW characters (dwarves have huge hands). I also suggest doing a lot of reading. Scott McCloud is a must, but there are a lot of books that show the conventions. And you need to know those so you can tell when you should/can break them.

Still, very cool work and I hope you stick with it. I graduated college and am still trying to break into the market. Takes a lot of dedication and time, but I am sure you know that already! See you around!

[artmessiah]

Just doodling - pure internet boredom. I'll make a real post tomorrow ;-) must go to sleep now.

[artmessiah]

O.k. Back with Ink Gestures. Some are done with inkwash, some are done on plexiglass and the line ones are india ink on a twig - all were lotz of fun.

[Lee W]

I see you are working hard with the figure drawing and doing quite well I must say :) keep it up ... waiting to see a nice rendered one soon :)

[Alexandr Pascenko]

hehe cool to see an artist who knows how to use watercolour , the coloure dportrait of the woman with the girl and tlc girls are dope! about your minddrawings.. it´s good you have choosen to draw more from life , i would suggest after everylife drawing make even a small one of the same pose from your mind to really LEARN something "more" from it ;)

cheers buddy i liek your work

[bradley]

those top two in the last post are very interesting. i think your onto something there and you should push that and see were it takes you

[sourgasm]

the first two images from your last post are GREAT. run that direction full speed. they're just haphazard and messy in all the right ways.

a lot of your comic work is pretty well done. snazzy neck tendons- that's always important. magnut pretty much covered anything else i'd say, i'm sure. heh.

looking forward to see where this thread goes.

[Zoio]

Great life drawnings man! I don´t know why, but i like very much from the that boot in the first page. Would critique some things in the comics style like position of the head and anatomy, but i guess that magnut said it all.
Keep posting!
Cheers man!-

[artmessiah]

@ Zoio - Thanks for stopping by. I'll work on the comicbook stuff - I like my style, I just want to get a little looser with it.

@ sourgasm - Yeah I like working with this method. I have no control of the way the ink rolls on the plastic plate and the tools I use to draw on it are a mid size roller, mineral spirits, my fingers and a rag. There is no real control like I would have with a brush or pencil. I love the spontaneity of everything.

@ bradley - Thanks, I plan to.

@ GOBLINSHARK - Thanks for checking my stuff out. I haven't had time to really do a watercolor like I want to, but I plan of posting a few more. I draw stuff from my mind all the time - but most times it's too tight or compressed which is a result of learning to draw from comics first instead of life - Jim lee was a big influence, but even his stuff now is a lot looser. I'm taking life classes to loosen up so hopefully when I work on my own projects the lessons learned now will be carried over. Love you work man, I'll keep checking your development and direction.

@ OldNoobie - Yep still hard at work and loving it :)

[artmessiah]

Here's some more ink work. I really enjoy doing these - they give me such freedom. I like the quickness and fierce contrast. I will apply this method of dramatic contrasting light and shadows to my own imaginary stuff. These will be the last pieces like this for awhile cause my class is moving to the next method of figure drawing which is sculpting (woohoo!) :)

[Alexandr Pascenko]

yo lookin at th elast ones i like your brushes i know u will be great with colours only by judging this! my crits for better development would be , well this would i do , .. first draw the lines of the bdies ( everybodygot its own FLOW, try to catch it witch lines wich would be coing out great for your minddrawings, and then after this i would put in the shadow. i hope you get wha ti mean trough my bad english. i´ll be coming more often cuz i see much potential here but u gotta work hard now!
cya:)

[Lee W]

that some awesome ink work :)

[thesinfulsaint]

Your latest stuff is looking really great! I envy that you can take full semester life drawing classes. I'd have taken them myself, but I'm unfortunately not 18 quite yet. :P Almost, but not within the right time period to pick up the class.

At any rate, all of your figure work is looking phenominal. Those twenty minute gestures up at the top of the page really blow me away. You're going to have an awesome body of work to choose from when it comes down to deciding your Ringling portfolio. Best of luck to you!

[emeys]

Briliant Work man.....I become a die hard fan of your skills....Cheeeeeeeeeers...

EMEYS.

[artmessiah]

Briliant Work man.....I become a die hard fan of your skills....Cheeeeeeeeeers...

EMEYS.

Thank you. I'll post more after I submit my portfolio to Ringling in a week or so.

[artmessiah]

Alrighty here it is, my Ringling send off. I drew a lot more stuff than I'm posting here but I had to narrow it down. The other stuff I drew was more fantasy than observational so in the end I tossed them out. I hope this portfolio gets me through the doors.

[Lee W]

nice set of sketches :) this one (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76213&stc=1&d=1168588814) looks the best (to me anyways). Good luck with Ringling :)

[yeticatcher]

Hey artmessiah (Bruce), I'm a total idiot for not visiting your sketchbook when you invited me a year ago - you were so gracious with your comments. I've missed out on a lot here. Going through it now I realize your talents will go a long way and I want to wish you well on your way to Ringlings. I have to admit your life drawing skills are fine and fluid, much of the comments regarding this are spot on. This piece here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76215&stc=1&d=1168588830) seems out of place in the over grouping and to me doesn't reflect your best work. With composition and anatomy adjustments it could be a quite fine bit of art

And OldNoobie has a point - John Buscema, Neal Adams, and Gil Kane are great inspirations - they happen to mine.

Again sorry for the long delay in making this visit, it was a joy and I hope to see more soon. Man, I'm such an idiot!

Best,
Yeti (Tom)

[rblitz7]

Hey man, some real nice stuff here. About the proportion issues I mentioned earlier, I think you often make the lower leg too small. Like in these...
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76234&stc=1&d=1168589305
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76232&stc=1&d=1168589286
but no worries you have a real good shot of getting into Ringling.

[artmessiah]

Hey man, some real nice stuff here. About the proportion issues I mentioned earlier, I think you often make the lower leg too small. Like in these...
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76234&stc=1&d=1168589305
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76232&stc=1&d=1168589286
but no worries you have a real good shot of getting into Ringling.

Thanks man, I appreciate the vote of confidence.

[Qitsune]

Woa, great studies, the thing I'm not sure about is the bell, the fruits have way more volume than the bell.

What's going on? No more updates?

[artmessiah]

These are some of my various figure studies. I have a kabillion more but I'm posting the most recent assignments. These three are done on canvas with those Sketch and Wash pencils you can get out of walmart or any other department store.

[artmessiah]

These are all charcoal on news print

[Konstruktion]

Saweeet life drawings and inks man! Me likey a lot! Not sure what to say, just keep on drawing and updating here..

[kaktuzlime]

Those are some sweet life drawings! Keep it up.

[brunopicinini]

wow, nice style!!
you definetly got a lot of control on shading ... something i really need to practice

keep up and best regards

[artmessiah]

I had to do a final project for class so I decided to take a couple of my figures and revamp them into a theme or series. There were ten in all, but some were kinda... blah in my artistic opinion - so I'm not posting them ;) :P

[artmessiah]

BTW thanks for the comments brunopicinini, kaktuzlime and Sarcophagus I'll try to keep my SB as updated as much as I can. Take care

[nilaffle]

Hey, glad to see you're updating again :) your figure studies are looking awesome, very nice curves and weight to all of them. Those Sketch and Wash ones turned out especially nice. Keep it comin!

[Bubstar]

I really love how you capture the roundness of the body, really nice line quality also. Nice stuff man.

[artmessiah]

These are old - I'm just reposting them to show someone my watercolor style. I have more but the subject in the others bring back too many bad memories so they are locked away in my artbin ;) I may revive my watercolor ventures when I master digital painting a bit more. Take care

[nilaffle]

...Holy crap man, you need to work in watercolor more often. Why wait till you've mastered digital? :)

[artmessiah]

...Holy crap man, you need to work in watercolor more often. Why wait till you've mastered digital? :)


I don't know - I've always used just pencil and watcolors for traditional colored work, but the possibilities of digital work really intrigue me. Plus there is plenty inspiration here for me to try and get better at it

[Peter Berkovski]

wow master pieces water coloring :) i love these girls man :) specialy last one :P
Cheers

[thedestroyer]

I really like the way you're drawing, but i think you're a better cartoonist, than naturalistic drawer... Keep going, you'll find your way.:)

thedestroyer

[Cok3]

hey artmessiah i really like your sketchbook, your studies are awesome. lookin forward to seein some finnished concepts from ya

[Qitsune]

I love the watercolors. More more!

I'm not sure about the vamped life drawings tho, the additions look like an afterthought.

[artmessiah]

I love the watercolors. More more!

I'm not sure about the vamped life drawings tho, the additions look like an afterthought.

Your right it was an afterthought, but my professor said I had to use models from class sooo, yeah it was a quick and dirty job. ;)

[artmessiah]

Here a some random sketches I've been doing - nothing too good, just sketches. I have to keep this SB alive somehow :)

[thedestroyer]

Nice sketches, cool stuff. Keep drawing, it'll be worth it.

[Cok3]

love the studies bro, those inks are beautiful, and man that wolverine looks scary! nice work on the muscles.

[artmessiah]

Here's another old watercolor. Bad memories with this one - I think the face tells it all, LOL.

[maxetormer]

great Wolvie :p and nice painting as well keep those UP!

[dkounios]

great Sketchbook man.
love your female bunch you did.
keep it up!

[vervex]

Your colored drawings are awesome Artmessiah ;) You should color more !

[artmessiah]

Today is the day I upload more BS doodles - like the ones above this thread. You know, the stuff you do while you sit in class or wait to eat at applebees, pretty much anytime you're bored - hence the title BS doodles ;) Have to keep this thing alive somehow :yayca: lol

BTW thanks for the comment Vervex, I'll get around to coloring when I can find the time. Take care

[artmessiah]

Oh and here is a color excersize done very... very quickly in photoshop.

[artmessiah]

More sketches done in Sketchbook pro and my ole wacom.

[artmessiah]

A few people were kind enough to color some lines I posted in the media coloring book thread and I liked them so much I'm reposting them here. The first was done by Sentinel13, the second by Matt99 and the last one by Senira. Thanks to all of you, I alway like collaborations. :)

[artmessiah]

Here is the result of an assignment from school (Character Development class - location Enviro)

[yeticatcher]

I haven't looked in lately. glad I did. Nice work with the watercolors, there artmessiah. The black woman with the head wrap came out really nice. Nice sketch work happening throughout the recent posts too.

-Yeti

[CTseng]

I saw some of your Ringling portfolio pictures. Great stuff!
And those wash pencil works are looking awesome. Nice figure drawings.
Keep us updated!

[artmessiah]

Just a few things from school to keep this thing alive ha, ha.

[Reject-D]

ringling huh? i might go there for college next year... good job with your artwork and 3d work it looks really good..

[Qitsune]

I really like the texture on the last enviro of the previous page, it looks built with snakes. Like the chimp silhouettes too, some are very lively!

[artmessiah]

I really like the texture on the last enviro of the previous page, it looks built with snakes. Like the chimp silhouettes too, some are very lively!

Thanks for the comments. :) I've really haven't had the time to update this SB at all, but I try and throw school work in just to keep it going. Those trees for my enviro project are my Saurian trees, so I guess they are snakes in a way ;)

[Jason Borne]

Hi messiah, thanks for posting in my sketchbook. I figured I'd return the favor. I like your model sheets. It's easy to see that your life studies are improving your other stuff.

[Qitsune]

Hey wake up, we want moar!