DSG 848: Character/Scene: OLD FELLAH IN THE WINE CELLAR

[William b. Hand]

[ The Blurbless Life Continues... ]

Character/Scene: OLD FELLAH IN THE WINE CELLAR
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[Bob.Razowsky]

owww... first. if somewone wanna try to color befor i do some mistak with shadows :tihi:
[the fellah is in the win cellular & profit of that the boss is away to smell a good wine]

old (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9859/cave8jo.jpg)
(full size, but how can u have so good scan, my are always so bad O_o )
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/769/fellah4cv7yi.jpg

(a little bigger, but i lose too much quality if i reduce it more)




[i think that noone will comment, inst? so... to my mind i ve done some real progress about shadows, even if some trouble stay. The subject was pretty hard too. Hope someone tell me how to have a better scan, i ve lost a lot of quality, again.]

Oh Yeah!!! that s better!!! Thanks for help ;)

[l.e.b]

stealing from the wine cellar of joy
the man in background is holding one of those cement spades to stab him up
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/leavemb/wineellea.jpg

[llothcat]

too lazy to finsish completely..and it took longer than usual..~3hrs I think...having much fun playing with the tool bar....

http://www.llothcat.com/dsg/images/winecellat.jpg

[Hamsta]

Despite Martha's constant warnings, Dave has managed, once again, to get seperated from the tour group. This time it's in the cellar of one of the biggest Californian wine makers, if he dosen't find the group soon, he might miss the wine sampling!
painter, 45ish
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8917/848oldinwineceller1xm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Pechu]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/pjg/vinecellar.jpg

Really quick one. Approx. 20 min.

[Sheridan]

Fred Jones was worn out
from caring for his often
screaming and crying wife
during the day
but he couldn't sleep at night
for fear that she
in a stupor from the drugs
that didn't ease the pain
would set the house ablaze
with a cigarette


So, Fred Jones went into the basement and drank what wine he had left, and hanged himself.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Kelleybelley/082305.jpg

I swear I'm not this morbid in everyday life. Around 2.5 hours.

[Zoeli]

I'm really not happy with this at all, what I am happy about is the fact that I managed to finish it...sort of. About 45 minutes, maybe a little more.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5008/dsg33jr.jpg

[Nils_Carstens]

well my old fellah somehow just left the cellar :$

http://www.uglykids.org/pics/dsg848

[Kaylon]

And my Old fellah is just entering his cellar...

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8864/fellahcellar1bd.jpg

Photoshop 15mins...

K.

[simmi]

Old fellah's having fun in the wine cellar.
http://www.simnet.is/simmi/dsg/dsg848.JPG

[BaronVonWink]

i am playing with opencanvas (thanks to the the exchange thread) a new experience for me... i darkened it in ps. not sure of the time.. 30 minutes maybe?

http://www.geocities.com/madsketchez/oldman.jpg

and the wpe file if you like: http://www.geocities.com/madsketchez/oldman.zip

long live DSG!

H!

[goran]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/smogyboy/sketchbook/old-man1.jpg

[Eshara]

He's in a good mood. :)

I wasn't able to figure out how to finish the cellar without spending a lot of time on it (to put detail in). I didnt want to spend anymore time on it. I took a lot of the day making him as it was (trying to get the colors and bg to look right, still isnt perfect). Here he is.

http://www.thehgl.com/rebecca/pictures/oldfellahincellar.jpg

[charcoalArtist]

[i think that noone will comment, inst? so... to my mind i ve done some real progress about shadows, even if some trouble stay. The subject was pretty hard too. Hope someone tell me how to have a better scan, i ve lost a lot of quality, again.]

Bob.

The eye should look different from a profile view. yours is too round. look at some reference photos such asthis photo (http://p.laya.com/pics/galleries/August14/images/Lulu_profile.jpg)

[Fal$eProfit]

http://www.picaroni.com/wine-celler-old-man.jpg
goran- I love the way you work that rake took into your drawings. It's really impressive the way that you have really created a story with you picture.
BaronVonWink-I've been enjoying seeing you around. You have an awesome style. I'm going to have to try that opencanvas program.

[damicide]

kind of wished i had nailed this one a little better. if there's one thing i'm good at its painting old degenerates. i was pretty indecisive about the lighting early on, and it just never was resolved.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/damacide/old.jpg

goran- snazy brush preset. i love the blockprint look it gives.

baron- neat to see you posting regularly. awesome stuff.

trevor- you know you want to post something.

tovette- lazy punk, post.

[Fal$eProfit]

damicide -your the shit man. Always awesome stuff. Sort of looks like your looking at this one through some of those 3d glasses with a red and blue lens :)

[mysterian]

http://www.thotblot.com/conceptart/averygoodyear.jpg
... A Very Good Year,.... or bad depending on your point of view.

[SantaClaus]

hi everyone! havent been here in awhile....heres my try at it. almost two hours. photoshop.

[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3905/oldwineguy6gv.jpg[/URL

[SantaClaus]

mysterian-fantastic. yours is interesting
damicide- I like the way you went with this. I like your colors... is body position seems a bit odd. I think it is because his chest is out and his head is down. but im not gunna hastle you to bad because I know it is a sketch.
baron-;love the colorss and the pose
penchu-cool colors and interesting style

[DavePalumbo]

man, would have liked to do this one but I just didn't have an hour to spare today.

[RobHughes]

Gonna be late with this one. Photobukets just gone down for "Scheduled System Maintanence for 1 Hour".

Sorry

Santaclause-nice but u need to observe what that hand reay looks like.
Damicide-very painterly but wheres his neck?
Fal$eprofit-Like the character but cant tell whats happening in the cellar
Eshara-good job of the elipses on the barels
Goran-good
BaronVonWink-Very quick and nice character
simmi-these two drink at my local
Kaylon-spooky but no wine
Dreckster-very clean
Zoeli-jesus in the cellar
Sheridan-touch on the bleak side isnt it
Hamsta-yeh, this ones too dark for me to see.
llothcat- similar with this one to but I get the idear
l.e.b-Kent Williams ish
Bob.Razowsky-yeh, I can see where you're going with the candle light.

All in all I feel we have skimped a bit on this on this one (myself included) .Prehaps it's just a monday thing.

Rob

[William b. Hand]

Mysterian - Marvelous little study! Adorable old fella, and solid everything.

Here's what I did. :\
I didn't even get a guy in there because I was focusing on the interior. As messy and wonky as it all is, and although I didn't fulfill the assignment, this was a good exercise for me.

http://homepage.mac.com/dsgarchive4/.Pictures/wine%20cellar.jpg

[RobHughes]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/RobHughes/Fella-in-cellar.jpg

[charge]

nice scratchboard Goran, quick and effective, you've inspired me dude. :blahblah:

[G_Strat]

Hello evryone, I have been admiring this site for a long while and now that I'm gearing up for the fall semester my creative juices are flowing. I finally have a post for the DSG. It is coloured in Photoshop. The foot is brutal as are the hands but I like his face. 1 1/2 hours.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/apemangaul/Wino.gif

[RobHughes]

Bob.Razowsky

Since no one else has offered any help on the scanning here's my stab at it. I have the cheapest oldest scanner and this is how I do it. First I clean the AW as best i can trying to atain clear shapes and good solid outlines round important sections. I put the AW on the scanner bed and make sure its flat. I open photoshop go to import (the name of my scanner comes up) and click on the scanner. This brings up the software that came with the scanner. It allows a prescan to be made for positioning and ballance.
I rarely prescan as my scanner is soooo slow.
There are a number of options - colour , greayscale and lineart. I can also alter the gamma ballance and brightness. I set all these so the image is clear but so as much of the detail and texture are scanned as possible. I choose greayscale and set the scanners resolution to 300 dpi. Scanning a full A4 colour page at that resolution gives a photoshop file of about 30 meg which is about as much as my PC can cope with. This also works for me because of the scale of my drawings. If your pictures are very small I suggest doubling the dpi to 600 and only scanning your picture not the whole page. What I'm after is an image that's approx 5"x 6 1/2" greayscale and 300 dpi. This works well for me to start work. I only change the mode of the picture to colour after I've sorted out the compositonn and cleaned up the scan.
Prehaps I should talk about that for a moment. Once the drawing is in photoshop I use the levels control to eliminate all the mid and pale greys leaving only the dark lines and returning the paper to white.
Once the pic is finnished (or I run out of time ) I save it as a jpeg at the desired pixell dimentions and that's the image that gets posted.

Looking at your pic it seems to me that u scanned it is as a 600x800 pixell image. Theres no way you will be able to preserve any of the quality of the drawing at that scale. you're throwing away too much detail which you can not get back.

Hope this helps, please PM me if you have any more questions.

G Strat- Love it, great first post.
Rob

[Hamsta]

RobHughes Sorry it's too dark for you, monitors are never the same.
I think the "beer belly" is too high up, and your dude seems to lack a "package" which is giving me strange preggo vibes :dur: shoulders look very lumpy. The way you rendered the background dosen't mesh at all with the character - find better ways to be lazy on the out of focus bits ;)

[G_Strat]

Thanks for the tips. My drawings always come out kind of foggy in photoshop and now I know why. Thanks.

[RobHughes]

Hamsta- yeh, I see what your saying about the anatomy, I had real problems with this one between the concept sketch and the finished piece. The lesson here is not to rush to get it posted. If it's no good it's no good, do it again.

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Rob

[SantaClaus]

rob.

thanks for the comment. yea I really started the hand without thinking about how it would grasp a glass.. I noticed after I had drawn it out that it is also in the wrong perspective. the veiwer should be looking at the bottom of the hand not at a top angle. on yours... I really like how you are trying to make the characer look dynamic! a little contrast in this image wouldnt hurt. also a shadow from him on the bottles will help him look more incorperated with the background and might even bring out some more shape to the bottles. cool concept.

[llothcat]

in the Gimp..which is what I use instead of Photoshop..(long story as to why I dropped that program:P) It is based on Photoshop settings though...

I use an el-cheep-o scanner as well. Cost maybe $50 a few years back?

Tutorial~~>
http://www.llothcat.com/gimpcomics/index.php


BTW:
I do comic book production occasionally, and I'm hoping to improve my art(I admit I'm real lazy--slacked off big time to meet deadlines with other people's pieces)....But I thought the point of this exercise was to get used to Painter?

[damicide]

thanks Fal$eProfit.

changed the posture and added a neck with a little ps liquify magic.

[SoundScientist]

WOW Goran that's amazing

[Hamsta]

lol, Rob This isn't the finally finished sub-forum, this is the dsg, and if you don't post mistakes how will you learn? even if this isn't the greatest place for crits.

Llothcat Everyone can join the dsg for whatever purpose they want, I do it because I'll be slacking if I didn't do it...
There's no software limitation, any sort of "level" you have to be, no time limit and you can choose which topics to join.

Sometimes a declaration of purpose would be nice, as some guys want to develop a realistic style while others have more stylistic approaches and want to keep it that way - compare Bill to Hunger

[Inkfish]

Mysterian Really moody picture, good job!
Damicide I dig the colours
Goran sweet stuff as always

played around in painter, and fucked it up in photoshop. About 30 mins.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/inkfish/dsg848.jpg

[tovette]

kind of wished i had nailed this one a little better. if there's one thing i'm good at its painting old degenerates. i was pretty indecisive about the lighting early on, and it just never was resolved.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/damacide/old.jpg

goran- snazy brush preset. i love the blockprint look it gives.

baron- neat to see you posting regularly. awesome stuff.

trevor- you know you want to post something.

tovette- lazy punk, post.

He looks drunk.