Master Copy Workshop

[the_allejo05]

Learning from the masters is a sure way to learn. Here you can post your copies and analysis of masterworks. They can be paintings ,drawings from originals.. We want to see a good copy not just a day's work , maybe three or more days,weeks,months,etc...that means analysing and studying it with a purpose..maybe you wanna learn the masters palette in painting..his brushwork..his sculptural way of rendering..matching his lines, his inkwork,watercolor, his use of composition..of the figures..the way of handling drapery, or portraying character...or you just plainly love the drawing/painting . From Manet to Monet...frazetta or Rockwell anyone is welcome..If you wanna show the original next to your copy and the steps you took..it would be most helpful for critiques and opinions..

Here is a copy of El Greco i did lately..I consider it a sketch took me three hours(i did stare at the image for hours hehe)..but my goal in this was to match his colors and the use of modeling..I like the way he portrays the character on this piece..this is wet on wet..no underdrawing..many many errors in drawing..im still getting confortable with handling oil,
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_223493.jpg

John Singer Sargent said that he learned from El Greco more than from any other artist, and it is said that El Greco was a pupil of Titian. Oh El Greco means the Greek in spanish :)
I need a better way to get the image that I use for copying printed with the original colors of the painting....has anyone tried taking it to KINKO'S??

[Dizon]

Me and Allejo are starting to work on ours right now, so I hope that others are willing to join.

Just to give you some ideas:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/patdzon/patsart/afterraph.jpg

This is a recent Raphael copy. I spent over a week working on this one.

I suggest spending some considerable time on yours, so you can get the most out of the learning experience.

Goodluck and have fun! :^^:

[Rich Pellegrino]

Sargent did learn from El Greco, and he was a major influence on him. But the biggest influence on him was from Velazquez early in his career.Then he found Frans Hals, whom he studied and referenced for the rest of his life. You can even see similar color choices and brush work between Frans Hals and Sargent. He always recommended these two artists first and foremost when advising someone to learn from the old masters. He would say you should study Frans Hsls then go onto to Velazquez....blah blah blah. Also research His mentor, Carolus-Duran there are many similarities between them also. Nice copy by the way. :teeth:

Rich

[the_allejo05]

vooodochile: thanks..i tried to really slow down..when painting..is a different feel when copying him..I tried my hand at Sargent a few times..one in oil hard as hell...
yeah i know that story.....I know of Hals and velasquez..and of carolous duran..this information i found on the ARC site..under El Greco Biography:

El Greco's work is typically modern, and from it the portrait painter, J. S. Sargent, claims to have learnt more than from that of any other artist. It immortalizes the character of the people amongst whom he dwelt, and he may be considered as the initiator of truth and realism in art, a precursor and inspirer of Velázquez

This statement really sounds interesting..because El greco captures the character in his own personal way.....and his enlongated figures seem to be very similar with Sargeants elegant ones..I know Sargents brushstrokes are like hals..but his figures are different and Hals is considered more impersonal, like his ability to draw is what matters to him more.....Velasquez is seeker of the truth in seeing..he is a tonal painter not as colorful as Sargent...
the thing that i like about them is that they work with expressive brushtrokes...but anyways..i dont care I found Delacroix now and he is my favorite at the moment..hehe..so on to study him!

Patzon: excellent copy..im working on a RAphael..im taking my time...one critique..if im not mistakeng you are a lefty right..well i bet i was hard going with the strokes of Raphael..I think next time you should go the way you naturally shade (to the left)....I have the same problem..when i tried copying leonardo..so i switch to my strokes..following his sample...I think rembrandt's is a lefty ..I tried my hand at his etchings..but he is a lot harder..his strokes are everywhere..

[the_allejo05]

http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_225982.jpg

here is mine..i like the drawing..my puto (child) turned out a bit beefer than raphae'sl...i did this in two sessions one hour..each..before i started i did check for anatomy, gesture, weight, and conceptual form, lightning in separate components....so i could think of all of those when i was drawing it ..is hard..since as the drawing progress i started seing more..raphael..is so delicate..critique please :)

[Dizon]

I've never seen this Raphael before. The copy looks good, but can you post the original as well, so I can give a crit?

I'm having difficulty gettting a good photo of mine :nohope: . well, I'll post it soon.

[Dizon]

Here is a progress shot of my copy of a wonderful drawing by Tadeo Zucarro - an artist I'm not familiar of. To the right is the original. Sorry for the sucky photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/patdzon/patsart/zucarrocopy.jpg

[Prehistoric]

my copy of a Rembrandt painting of Alexander the Great.

just in pencil though. love studying the old masters.

https://home.comcast.net/~zackrubin/rembrandt1.jpg

[Dizon]

Thanks for joining in Prehistoric! Feel free to post more! :rendered:

[Form]

stickied. great thread. more discussion, MORE!! impart your valuable knowledge of the masters! ill join in with a mastercopy soon.

[Dizon]

stickied. great thread. more discussion, MORE!! impart your valuable knowledge of the masters! ill join in with a mastercopy soon.

Wow.....A big thanks to you man!!!!! :yayca: :donk:

Me and Allejo are very flattered!

[FlipMcgee]

How I spent my Saturday. Around 6 hours for all three. From the book "Sixteenth-Century Tuscan Drawings From the Uffizi".

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4885/vanni2ts1.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4104/stradanusb9az.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6432/zucchi022by.jpg

[Rich Pellegrino]

sorry for the bad pic and i'm not done yet too. I have to take care of some more reds and the clothes next. c+c please.

Rich

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/judith.jpg

[Dizon]

sorry for the bad pic and i'm not done yet too. I have to take care of some more reds and the clothes next. c+c please.

Rich

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/judith.jpg

Looking good. Just be sure to get rid of the hard edges of the shadows. There are some things that I noticed in yours that is different from the original, like, the whole face is actually not that wide, and the lips are supposed to be smaller.

Anyway, I'll look forward to the final piece.

[Dizon]

I'd thought I'd post some small advice.

Don't be afraid of making or seeing a mistake. It's really mostly likely that we do especially during the beginning and middle stages. So try to make sure of doing the necessary corrections as early as possible. If you feel that there is something wrong with it, then don't hesitate. Grab that eraser and fix it!

I'll be posting more from time to time. Also feel free to do so! Good luck!

[Dizon]

This is the current progress of my copy. Sorry for the bad photo. I might be near finishing this one soon. It looks good to me so far!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/patdzon/patsart/zucarrocopy2.jpg

[John]

Looking good. Check the relationship of his left arm and his right leg & foot, could be the angle of the photo though. Maybe even his left leg. Pretty much guesswork though. Keep going, i know how tough bargues are - i always tell myself one day i'll finish one ... sigh.

[Dizon]

Looking good. Check the relationship of his left arm and his right leg & foot, could be the angle of the photo though. Maybe even his left leg. Pretty much guesswork though. Keep going, i know how tough bargues are - i always tell myself one day i'll finish one ... sigh.


Thanks! It's not a Bargue though.

[the_allejo05]

nice patdzon..i will start on a bargue pretty soon..it has been staring at me for the last month hehe..Is a plate with a million complicated folds...I shall start tonight..keep posting guys..

[Rich Pellegrino]

Thanks for the crit Patzdon I kept in mind what you were saying heres the final.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/caravvaggio-fin.jpg

This is a Sargent study I did today for kicks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/sargent-study.jpg

[Form]

Fantastic work! Keep it up!

[CreationEdge]

This is the current progress of my copy. Sorry for the bad photo. I might be near finishing this one soon. It looks good to me so far!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/patdzon/patsart/zucarrocopy2.jpg


The problem isn't so much with the arm as it is with the leg, but it's [relatively] minor. The legs just isn't extended as much is it is in the original.

If you check the relation between the knee and the nipple on the original, the knee is almost directly below the nipple. On yours, the same check show that the knee is more right of the knee than it should be. As such, the rest of the leg is also further right than it should be.

Again, using the nipple as a comparison, and this time with the heel of the foot. In the original, the heel is left of the nipple. In yours it's to the right.

Yours is quite nice, though. As a challenge, I'd suggest filling in the areas that are left out in the original, ;). Mainly, that odd patch missing from his upper butt.

[the_allejo05]

like your sargent copy..he is a good painter for practicing heads..this is one I did a few weeks ago..I try to match his sketchy brushstrokes..I did had a bad resolution printout ..my reference was like 1/8th the size of the face..so is good practice for enlarging..it took me many tries to get it desent..

http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_221422.jpg



I have a few more in my website..but this are some that i learn something/or took me a bit of time than others.....

I did this rockwell last year..thought i post it ..I went as accurate as i can to the original..I use a grid to aid me in drawing....but i drew straight with color pencils no graphite underdrawing..it took me all afternoon..non-stop..I just did it because i liked the image..and to have fun with washes of colored pencils..
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_186342.jpg

this one from ingres..to study the way he used contour drawing..i done like three of these..this is the best i think,
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_186055.jpg

one from master rembrandt..using my pen..again when for his strokes to learn his chiaroscuro a bit..i later did my own image resembling the crosshatching..he is very difficult..
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_186333.jpg

this was my first mastercopy in oil..my mom prays to the veil of veronica ..so it was done as a gift to her...originally by master spanish painter zurbaran..did a presketch to study the head..then painted in two three hour sessions..colors are off..but i learn the modeling and a bit on drapery..
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_179828.jpg

[Dizon]

I love that Ingres and Rembrandt! <3

I should copy an etching or a nice drawing by Ingres!

[mjsz]

The first one is after Annibale Caracci and the other is a copy of Karoly Ferenczy's painting

http://menyhei.exceed.hu/forum/faunos.jpg

http://menyhei.exceed.hu/forum/kohajitok.jpg

[Dizon]

interesting watercolor studies!

Thanks for joining in!

[mentler]

Had coffee with Pieter <> study of one of his works <> not intended as a copy but as a study <> I try to analyze what I am drawing in these om studies <> I can get a copy at Kinko's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/mentler/ElGreco/om082905a.jpg

[the_allejo05]

mentler: nice to see you join in..yeah we should change the name to study instead of copy..although remember that people who are just really beginners..who still dont understand light on form,nor anatomy or perspective or have no technique....pretty much copy..their drawing skills are nost as advanced as yours yet..well that is what i felt when i started drawing again...now i "see a bit more with my mind"...
patzon: I will take a picture of the original..is from hale's book..I recently did a rubens (is a sketch of hercules)the other day..I will post it too..it is the study i really enjoyed doing it felt confortable...its a breakthrough !hehe..

[el norteno]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Barum1138/mastercopy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Barum1138/michelangelocopynew.jpg

[the_allejo05]

nice studies el norteno..where you from??
it seems like everybody has to do that raphael head and mike's sybil..these are mine..done a year ago or so..
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_186327.jpg
this was not so good..did it with yellow crayon...my knowledge of anatomy was zero..hehe..so i will probably have to do it again..
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_186308.jpg

[nupayntor]

great thread here.....might as well post some studies of my own alongside the great ones here.....
http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/berthemoriset_paint.jpg

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/sargmonet_paint_final.jpg

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/watcarguy.jpg

the top one is Monet`s painting of Berthe Moriset, i think she was his mistress or wife or something along those lines......the second is Sargent`s painting of Monet, he knew Monet pretty well if my understanding is correct.....the last is Velasquez' the water carrier, only a partial study as you can see.....
sorry my art history isn`t that good, maybe you can help me with extra details on that side of things....

payntor

[the_allejo05]

nupayntor
excellent studies..i like the berthe morisot the most, good drawing on all of them...on the velasquez head..i think you overemphasized the wrinkle in the jaw..is too light in value..and it gets too much attention...keep posting..

[el norteno]

yeah michelangelo and raphael are great to study form,anatomy and line work.allejo05: im from so cal.keep the post coming guys. ill have to dig up some more.

[sve]

Sorry, unfortunately I don't remember names of artists. It was long time ago in a different country.
If it's not appropriate I'll remove. The first painting was made by some artist at the end of 19th century.

http://home.comcast.net/~elazutkin/Images/Lady.jpg



http://home.comcast.net/~elazutkin/Images/Japanese.jpg

Sveta

[el norteno]

is that second one a hokusai?

[Magic Man]

This is a study of Michaelangelo's study.

Ultimately, one of my major goals is to learn how to paint in a Rennaissance style fashion, I believe these studies to be some of the most important I may ever do, and I am tying to learn in the fashion the great masters painted in - minus a teacher.

So, first up, we have the blank piece of paper - I scanned the first 3 steps in monochrome, but it is really a piece with graphite tonage and red ochr powder spread on the paper with a piece of toilet paper.

Tools used, cheap copy paper, red ochre grinds and graphite powder - these two you can purchase from any good art store, generally used to create your own oil paint, but I use them for applying tone. Graphite pencils, 8/9b - for darker regions and shade, 2b for a nice split between detail and darkness, and f for finer details. Also used prismacolor in the final stages to bring the shadows to a deeper and i used a putty eraser as a definition tool to bring out the highlights. Oh, also cheap toilet paper in place of commercially available paper stick blenders.

Alright, the first step looks like not much, but this initial stage already comprises a number of important basis steps - I've already done the head, sorry about that, I didn't think of doing this as a quick tutorial until a little wile into it.

Firstly, tonage - I dont know about you guys, but I hate working on a pure white surface, for some reason I really do not like it much, do I take a piece of toilet paper dip it into the graphite powder (do not breath this in, it is toxic) and spread it around teh page - I use long strokes to give some characters and dab in places to fill in white. Reason why I don't use my graphite pencils is because it takes too long.

Next, I mix in some red ochre and spread that on too - both the red ochre and graphite erase easily, so long as you dont push it into the grain too hard. This tone laydown will have an important function later too, so its not simply for those afraid of the white paper.

Alright, I've also - if you can see the light lines, dropped the reference lines I am going to use to plot out the major landmarks for the image - I am not looking off the reference image for what to put where - my anatomy knowledge knows most of it, I place the trajectory line from which I will base the spinal column and from that point will then attach the rest of the limbs, muscles and so on, I do not need to rely on the reference to tell me where everything is - this in itself is reason enough to memorise and study the anatomy, your studies will become much better.

http://users.on.net/~bobbyeow/Art/Libyan1.jpg

Alright, fleshing out of the limbs, proportioning and landmarking.

Once the first step was completed, I then checked the composition of the figure, and then started to drop in the major landmarks - you can see them as circular markings on the image, representing the heads and tails of bones and muscles.

The easiest way to plot out limbs like these, are from inside out, those closes to the initial point of reference (in this case, the head) will first be measured out and plotted, and following on from there in a build up process.

Firstly the trajectory of the horizontal axis has already been determined, now you have to determine how far from the head the coccyx bone needs to be, in this case, if you have done your studies, you will know that it is from the top of the skull to rough centre of the pelvis, is 4 heads, so measure that out, and we have our spine and the most important reference in place.

From there, you know from your studies, that the navel - another important landmark is two heads down from the chin, take into account curvature and drop in a ref - in this case, it has been covered over, but you should be able to figure out roughly the navel line.

The navel line is important because it is roughly where the oval of the ribcage ends, and the obliques start - Leonardo has slightly exaggerated the obliques in his subject, for wht ends I can only guess - my thoughts are that these proportions fit the renaissance' ideal proportions for a woman (this piece is - although studied from that of a man, is to be used for the painting of a woman).

Rib cage has been dropped in - but it sinks too low on the frame, and this will be corrected in the next phase.

The arms are added in, the horizontal line depicting the positions of the arm is still visible here.

While still in such an early stage, you should already start to understand where the image is going - if not, then somthing is wrong and it needs to be fixed as soon as this is noticed, or else the final render will not sit properly.

http://users.on.net/~bobbyeow/Art/Libyan2.jpg

Alright, 3rd stage, this is getting a bit more fun - but this fun never comes before the intial foundation, as in everything else in life.

At this stage, I start to tighten up the back muscles to give the feel imminent in the original, they are taught and wound, and should immediately give the impression of twisting.

The upper arms have also started to be rendered, and a lot of the guide lines are fading away - I tend to use a lot of blending with tissue in order to achieve a nice soft tone - I prefer not to use my finger because depending on how much sweat is on the finger tips, it can play havoc with the paper, instead using a tissue gives a consistent feel and blending properties, and is nice and clean. Tissues are great as blending tools, and how you use them is to pick up loose particles by rubing on the grind, then gently feathering across or applying tone where needed.

Please note, the arms have not been correctly positioned and will be changed before the final stage. In the composite here, the arms - when compared to the reference image, are in too flat a plane. If I am sticking to the reference image - which I want to do, since it has a more naturalistic look compared to my image here - the forearms need to tilt forward more.

I know something is not quite right at this stage, but the upper arms feel fine so I continue with them.

I remove the bottom rib, as it is way too low and start to use my kneeded eraser to start peeling away the ochre and graphite to define the lighted regions. This is where the tonal shades come in important, you are now using the eraser not as a correction tool, but rendering tool, to apply the highlights, using the paper's luminosity to define light areas.

There are also techniques of removing grades of graphite, if you want to take it all off, just rub it as per normal and it will reveal the brilliant white. if you need to tak half a scale away, use pointism, taking away dots of graphite and ochre and blending over to reduce the strength, repeat as required.

Alright, but the end, I know something is definitely not right with the forearms so I erase them and properly map them out - this part is not shown.

The way I do this is by using readily available landmarks, particularly the head.

Using the reference, I check the distance between the left elbow and the chin - it is the same distance as the chin to the back of th head, so I replicate this distance on my own image, i drop a reference circle there representing the elbow joint. the physical bend in the arm, the inside closest to the face should be in line with a trajectory draw from the eye, to the nose and extrapolated.

I move towards the hand, how high should it be? I check the horizontals and find that the wrist should be right about forhead height, do I drop in that reference circle too the highest point of the hand should be in line with the top of the hair.

I use similar techniques to fine the correct references for the other side too.

http://users.on.net/~bobbyeow/Art/Libyan3.jpg

I finish off with detailing of the right side of the body, keeping a close eye on the values on that side, understanding that not as much light will fall on that end.

The hands are created to the degree that they imply the gesture - as keeping with the original, more blending, and we're done.

http://users.on.net/~bobbyeow/Art/Libyan4Final.jpg

[Dizon]

impressive! I love how you fleshed out the anatomy, and the line quality is great! Truly fun to look at.

[yeddeync]

Where can we find some master's artwork? is there a place to download free Loomis artwork, or Michaelangelo?

[Magic Man]

Where can we find some master's artwork? is there a place to download free Loomis artwork, or Michaelangelo?

Just do a google search, their work isn't exactly obscure. Or go to www.artrenewal.org

[el norteno]

impressive rendering it makes my version look so flat, great job

[Smitherines]

A Sargent study I had posted in my sketch book, so I decided to post it here as well

http://www.gregksmith.com/drawings%20and%20paintings/Sargent%20Study.jpg

[FlipMcgee]

Excellent pieces everyone.

Here's another pair from me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Flipmcgee/boscoli.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/5769/beccafumipsd7zy.jpg

[the_allejo05]

excellent studies guys..magicman..the sybil is by michaelangelo :dad:
latest studies in my sketchbook
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_231970.jpg original from dover publications peter paul rubens
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_231957.jpg
again the putto by raphael
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_225982.jpg
oroginal from hale book
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_231951.jpg
two studies after leonardo,(too hard)
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_231973.jpg
http://www.artwanted.com/images/large/18782_231942.jpg

[Magic Man]

excellent studies guys..magicman..the sybil is by michaelangelo :dad:

Er...that was my first sentance in the post.

[Dizon]

Er...that was my first sentance in the post.

Its actually Michelangelo. hehe

And its "sentence" BTW hehe

[Magic Man]

Its actually Michelangelo. hehe

And its "sentence" BTW hehe

I'm an artist damn it, not an Engrish teacha.

[yeddeync]

hey magic man, is that an A4 size copy paper that you drew on? I am curious, because I'm currently working on a study of your study. I have a lot of trouble achieving those gradations for each muscle mass when drawing on such a small scale..... do you have any advice for acheiving those gradations? thanks

[Magic Man]

hey magic man, is that an A4 size copy paper that you drew on? I am curious, because I'm currently working on a study of your study. I have a lot of trouble achieving those gradations for each muscle mass when drawing on such a small scale..... do you have any advice for acheiving those gradations? thanks

Yes its A4.

Use a spread of graphite hardness - f for fine, 9b for darks, in betweens for in betweens, use the broad edge for large areas, use the tissue for blending, build up tone and use a kneaded eraser to pick the highlights.

[yeddeync]

man, I am still a little confused... I'm not sure what you mean when you say "f for fine". Is it for "fine lines" or light area? I just can't distinguish where the "fine" is in your drawing. Probably because your drawing is so good. Also, when you get the the really dark core shadows....are you using the the broad side of the 9B or are you using the pointed side? I see a little hatching in there, how big of a part does hatching play in your initial shading process?

sorry about all of these questions, just curious....my study turned out really mucky looking.

thanks magicman

[Dizon]

man, I am still a little confused... I'm not sure what you mean when you say "f for fine". Is it for "fine lines" or light area? I just can't distinguish where the "fine" is in your drawing. Probably because your drawing is so good. Also, when you get the the really dark core shadows....are you using the the broad side of the 9B or are you using the pointed side? I see a little hatching in there, how big of a part does hatching play in your initial shading process?

sorry about all of these questions, just curious....my study turned out really mucky looking.

thanks magicman

He probably means, smaller finer details, and he's using 9b grades for more broad darker marks, as well as, smaller but accentuated marks.

[the_allejo05]

magicman..sorry i totatlly missed the first sentence..hehe..but in the middle of the paragraph you say leonardo.. :donk: well lets see if i can finish this damn bargue..

[maxetormer]

Ok so ill chip in :D
you guys are doing such fine work!!!

Ingres studies:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/852/97ze.jpg

[nupayntor]

alejo05: yeah, you`re probably right, it was one of my first wet on wet paintings and i struggled with the wrinkles a bit, so many of them lol.......and the modeliing isn`t that great on them either.....
still, onwards and upwards...

nupayntor

[Egets]

Hi !

Here is my master study of Albert Edelfelt, I have been always fascinated by his works (who hasnt!!!) when I can paint like him Im complete
anyhow what fascinates me is the way paints are overlapping each other and the feel of painting with loosed style meanwhile beneath the painting you can feel that nothing is by mistake but by result of many years practise,while I want to copy him because something must stick with me while I do it I realise that this kind of mastery is inbuilt and many years practise its not a matter of copying his work. Anybody can copy but to render reality on your own and result this level of painting <3 anyway its such a pleasure to use him as a copy does not feel like effort but rather escaping to sit on top of a clowd with a brush

Here is the original:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/Virginie_original.jpg

This is how far I got with my digital imitation:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/VIRGINIE.jpg

[Rich Pellegrino]

some really nice work going on here. I am impressed by your Michaelangelo Magicman! chug! I'm really digging the Sargent study by nupayntor. good stuff going on all around. I've been studying Velazquez for a while now. I picked up a book called Velazquez, Technique of a Genius. Good read!!! It seems he usually painted on a brown /reddish ground or plain lead white. He painted with very diluted pigments, glazed, and scumbled alot. I recommend it to anyone studying old masters. I'm not sure if he did underpaintings though. I know he sketched out his figures but not if they were full fledged underpaintings?!? any help??? anyhow heres my copy I saw the original at the Boston Museum of fine arts and immediately feel in love with the piece! I'm not done yet almost there!!! crits appreciated!
Rich

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/velazquez-copy.jpg

[Magic Man]

Wow, some fabulous works since I last check in, awesome stuff.

[Rich Pellegrino]

Done! I had problems with photgraphing it (glare). Then I scanned it at school and looked fine...until I put it on my pc at home, now the color is all shoddy but the quality is better. cant win anymore!?!
camera (more true to actual color)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/velazquez-finish.jpg
scan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/Velazquez-study-fin2.gif

[sve]

Which one is yours :).
It's gorgeous!
Sveta

[Tidal Lizard]

We probably all recognise this as David from the ceiling of the sistine chapel.
Didn't realize I screwed up the nose untill after I sealed it though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/BVS/100_1626.jpg

[Qxzi]

I know this may sound noobish, but i thought if you were going to copy a painting you had to copy it in paint? Hope this makes sense. Any answers welcome.

[Egets]

well its defenately different to paint with oilcolours than with digital, kind of like easy way out :bashful: but beeing hectic mother this is all I can do now

hey ! I was thinking that I was only studying the use of colours and painting style but then I got further and started studying the proportions, Im wondering weather one should beginning to use rulers or something to make sure things are in right measurement anyhow this is how I fixed the measurements and looks much more like the original now !

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/VIRGINIEretouched.jpg

[Bojee]

My contribution to the cause, A Sorolla study-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/bojee/MICA/Paintings/sorollastudy.jpg

There's some great work here.

[mjsz]

http://menyhei.exceed.hu/forum/st1.jpg
http://menyhei.exceed.hu/forum/st2.jpg

[Bojee]

mjsz- Very nice, you have a nice touch with the lines.

It seems kinda dead around here but here's another one, any help with the name of this artist would be great.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/bojee/MICA/Drawings/MC1.jpg

[Dizon]

This is my copy after a Rubens drawing. Been working on this for a number of days. Sorry if I was not able to post for quite a while. As for the other copy from the previous post above, I was not able to finish it. I got bored with that one so I started this one instead. This scan is a bit lighter than the original.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/patdzon/afterrubens2.jpg

[Prehistoric]

hey everybody.

sorry i've been absent for so long. finally got my computer back up and running. everything here's looking really sweet.

here's another Rembrandt, in graphite.

https://home.comcast.net/~zackrubin/rembrandt2.jpg

keep up the great work!

[Rich Pellegrino]

I think this is someone you guys might recogonize...Cheers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/DSCF0014.jpg

[ammoburger]

amazing drawing, inspiring

[ammoburger]

can i bend the rule just a little? this drawing is inspired by a John Singer Sargent drawing. forgive me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/ammoburger/sargentman.jpg

[Magic Man]

Great work guys, just thought I'd drop my Mona Lisa study I just completed.

All in all I think it came out okay, a few things that I'd remember for next time but overal captures at least 70% of the feel I think.

I lost track of how many hours I used for th study, but whatever it was I learned a fuckload from it. Next study will be a Rembrandt oil paint study.

Btw - if you want to see a step-by-step: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51425

http://www.users.on.net/~bobbyeow/Art/MonaLisaFinal.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~bobbyeow/Art/MonaLisaFinalDetail.jpg

[ammoburger]

Totally kick-ass. Simply marvelous. Did you darken a white paper manually? Or did you use some kind of white pastel or charcoal? Could you please tell me the tools you used, if not, thats not a problem.

[Magic Man]

click the link - it takes you through every single step it took to complete it.

[Rich Pellegrino]

nice work magic man. I know its not an exact copy and all that, but the hands seem rather manly.The top part of the sky seems a tad unfinished in the center and overall glow around the figure takes away from the pieces overall impact for me. Otherwise Very good work, I'm impressed by your subtle values and attention to detail.

I've been meaning to put this up for a while. It is a Velazquez study i did in a couple of days. Learned alot from this guy.
Cheers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/voodoochile969/velazquez-study.jpg

[samy_jo]

really awesome stuff . here are some I did , the first one is ingres and the second is sargent , keep up the good work guys . I'm still trying to figure out how to work acrylics though ....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/samantha_jo/samantha_jo38.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/samantha_jo/samantha_jo37.jpg

[blacky]

Here's a little something as a contribution to this great thread.
(Sorry, but its about a month old)
I was trying to campare Maria Magdalena, as how Tizian drew her, and his pupil El Greco (did that one within Museum :) ) (thats why I messed it up :( )

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/Burratino/ComparissonTizianGreco.jpg

[the_allejo05]

blacky those two are my old time favorite painters..besides the master raphael hehe..im glad this thread is growing everytime..if you guys have any questions let me know..im studying at www.mimsstudios.com and we are making amazing discoveries on the old ways..hopefully i do my first cast painting and a master copy to show you..the florence academy are a bit lost hehe..take care..

[TristanR]

hey guys, alot of great stuff happening in this thread. I want to start my own master copy drawing (Bargue i think there called? the ones where you spend weeks and weeks trying to make your drawing identicle) and was wondering where all of you find your original drawings? thanks, keep up the good work!

[samy_jo]

www.artrenewal.org

[Camilla]

I just stumbled upon this site during one of my endless picture searches and I am really pleased to see what a great site you have here. Keep up the good work everybody.

I am an artist myself (surrealism/symbolism/visionary art) and spend most energy on my own stuff, but once in a while I make a study or two. These paintings are copies of the Danish painter Wilhelm Hammershøi.


This is the original:
http://hjem.get2net.dk/silseth_jan/HAMMERSHOI/Interior_med_ung_kvinde_set_fra_ryggen.1903.-04.jpg


This is mine:
http://artcamilla.dk/GFX/Paintings/2004-Hammershoi-2.jpg



This is the original:
http://hjem.get2net.dk/silseth_jan/HAMMERSHOI/Stovkornenes_dans_i_solstralerne.1900.jpg

This is mine:
http://artcamilla.dk/GFX/Paintings/2004-Hammershoi-1.jpg


Camilla


www.artcamilla.dk

[Egets]

Camilla, your vase came out just perfectly, thats my weak side, hard symmetrical objects and am not too keen on painting them either

Magicman that is just so insane, i dont know if I dare to even try drawing Mona Lisa, she is so subtle I will probably get nerve breakdown or something

[Egets]

mjsz- Very nice, you have a nice touch with the lines.

It seems kinda dead around here but here's another one, any help with the name of this artist would be great.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/bojee/MICA/Drawings/MC1.jpg


Looks totally familiar but does not come to me right now who this painter is.. help please, okay I give you one name, Renoir, it kind of looks like Renoir or at least one of the impressionist's painting but most especially Renoir or then Degas

[blacky]

Camilla-awesome studies. Girl on above one might be poping out too much not looking as integrated as in original. I also would say that yours look sort of cooler(bluish) than originals. As originals seem to contain more warm tones, making atmospere more comfortable, believable. Your surfaces look sort of too sterile compared to original.
But, hey. You did a marvelous job nevertheless :), thanks for sharing and welcome to CA

[demeter_luna]

Great work everybody! There's no better way to learn technique than to study the paintings of the masters.

Anyways this mine, I did it last year for my dad's birthday. It took a hell long time to finish and im still not satisfied with it. There is something in the facial expression of the original that makes it unbelievable. Well what can I say... Da Vinci was incredible. But I didn't succeed in capturing it here :( By the way this is "Cecilia Gallerani"

oil on canvas.....
what do you think?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/demeter-luna/sketchbook/Cecilia-Gallerani-small2.jpg

and the link to a bigger version :[ http://photobucket.com/albums/v102/demeter-luna/sketchbook/?action=view&current=Cecilia-Gallerani-link.jpg

[orionfisher]

Caravaggio - The Incredulity of Saint Thomas

Oil on canvas. Done in a weekend for a color theory class. Still working on it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/orionfisher/IMG_1136.jpg
I need to take a better, less blurry, picture.

[sve]

Study of French artist of the 18th century Francois Boucher "Madame de Pompadour"

http://home.comcast.net/~elazutkin/Images/Madam.jpg

Digital, day or so.

[Dizon]

GREAT job, Sve!

[Egets]

I found a new master to admire and copy !!!!!!!!! He is phenomenal :jawdrop:

His name is Pierre-Auguste Cod, and there are more masters like him on this site:

THE ART RENEWAL CENTER (http://www.artrenewal.com/)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/oilcolorstudy.jpg

[Egets]

Another study after Pierre Auguste Cot, work in progress stage 1

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/PIERREAUGUSTECOTstage1.jpg

changed some proportion mistakes and corrected the color values closer to the original paintings ones and added some little details

Stage 2

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/PIERREAUGUSTECOTstage2.jpg


Stage 3


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1066569/PIERREAUGUSTECOTstage3.jpg

[J.Mac]

There is some really nice things going on in here! Good job everyone!

Ok so this is a Sargent copy, it is for a class, and it is killn me, this is my first painting class where i get to use a brush, i had another class 2 yrs ago but i use a palette knife only. I am traditionally a Product designer but i am enjoying this alot.


________
Materials are Acrylic and Bright brushes only with a limited pallete. Format 15 x 20 Cold Press Heavey weight illustration board.

http://www.mdx5.com/conceptart.org/mastercopy001.jpg

I could really use any help to get this and good as i can, i feel kind of lost in how to develop it more. Thanks


-Jesse

[sve]

Egets, such a pleasure to see this beauty, these two at swing, you did a wonderful interpretation, the mood is overwhelming, colors, lighting, Ahhh, I love it, saved it, such a precious beauty. Is it mix of watercolor and digital or totally digital? hard to tell :bashful: .
Thank you so much.
Sveta

[Orozc0]

hell yea sargent rocks!!! i love that painting, one of my favorites.

Here's a rembrandt study I did a couple of weeks ago.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/Orozco9000/RembrandtStudy.jpg

Odd Nerdrum baby. The paint was still wet when I took the picture.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/Orozco9000/NerdrumStudy.jpg

[Tetsuo]

welp I guess this one is an ok of vermeer...but you guys are really blowing me away :o

http://www.tetsuosdream.com/daily/s139.jpg

[Egets]

Thanks Sve, nice to get some feedback because PAINTING IS LOOONEEELLLYYYYY !!!!!!!!! cries alone over her own shoulder then pats herself at her own back

Hey J Mac, that study of Sargent raaawwwks ! I love the full creamy appearance, this is the kind of way of painting I want to learn this kind of way of painting too reminds me of Krutz painting way which I really love, have to confess havent really had so much time to browse Sargents own paintings and discover him, although I have heard a lot about him and know I will later have to face his body of work as well, but one cant digest all at once now.... I also like that we can see your room as well, makes it feel more personal and you appearing to be more friendly and approachable now


Demeter Luna, Im so jealous !!! You can get that smooth with oilcolours !!!!!! to me its almost impossibility they always end up beeing smudgy and grey borridge, oil painting is such a pain in the ass, not only is it so slow and tricky medium but dirty too, I currently feel comfortable settling into digital painting or ever watercolour rather than oilcolours, so dont need to worry about the grrrr waching and smell of turpentine and such toxical gases, this is really perfect mastercopy, you must have learned a lot from this though at the same time appears you already knew quite a lot before you started other vice couldnt have did this fine !!!!!

Orionfisher, another person not having problems in making things smooth with oilcolours, Im feeling preassured to start painting mine too very soon though I dont really like it, first I do have better camera but not sure how well it can capture image..... well... but anyways I quess Ill have to browse through here to see some hints about the oilpainting progress, now I would put gesso until the surface is flat then I would put draw the sketch maybe use black acrylics and then paint the entire canvas with some basecolour usually burnt sienna acrylics to get rid of the white base and then move one from there, they say that the oilcolour runs more smoothly as well on top of acrylics surface so there are many good reasons for using acrylic base in oilpainting, why not in fact lay the foundations with acrylics or the complamentary base colour plots as is tough in this thread :

The uses of Underpaintings Thread (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=63899)


Sve !!! Youuuuu fine lady I love you, that is soooooooo beautiful, such beautiful colours and details, you chose the colour of green for the dress, the colour of growth, nice !!!! We women are the embodiment of new growth so it just sends a message, you are very down to earth woman !!! Which is a quality in itself to be admired I often fly so high that I dont see people who live with me (ups this should go to the confession area already, lols!!)

Orozco where did you paint that Rembrandt on (another one of my faves) could be cool to see the whole setting (im curious cat) the second one is cool too you have proportions in tact, lovely !!!!

TeTsuo have you seen the movie, wow I love it, the enitre movie looks like paintable, to have it on dvd and stop at anywhere you like "we are all but shauls in his net" lol, thats how we artists are, seems like all our interest is on drinking and eating life out of living to rebreath it on canvas, do you feel like this too or is it just weird me :D

Okay, Im going to post this here because its now completed, though I already did posted in the finished section because I think I have never posted anything decent there before but it belongs here because I got my motivation to do it in here, balblalbalaa, Im really happy with it, it felt so easy to paint and I realise that its much more easier to copy somebodys painting than painting from photo or real life which means that I lack a lot in selfexpression and craftsmanship and why would I not lack when I have practicly no experience to mention, laaazzy and/or busy

here is one more time, hope you dont get tired with me already

http://uk.geocities.com/t.raisanen@btinternet.com/PIERREAUGUSTECOTDONE.jpg

[Hyver]

not so much a master copy than a mere value study. sure was a fun and helpful excercise!
mucho respêct to many of the works (the people making them rather) in here!

http://www.hyver.com/values01.jpg

[Tetsuo]

Egets: Yes i have seen the movie. I was astounded by how well the world of vermeer was captured on film. Truly a wonderful thing to behold. And yes often times I get caught in such a net and have to saw my way out to get over my fears in life to go ahead and paint/draw/etc. Everyone fights the same :)

[El Ruco]

I actually started my own master copying thread before i saw this one...
This is copy-pasted from it:
I am just starting to seriously learn painting. I have always focused on drawing, but have forgotten to learn and observe color, a great problem in my work. One of the goals I am setting for myself is to copy artwork from painting masters, both classic and contemporary. I hope to work at least 2 hours a day on this, making one-sitting pieces from several masters.
The next two are my first attempts. Obviously, no tracing or color picking involved. Color was done by choosing it on the color bars, not with the eyedropper (I know a lot of people who do this - which makes the whole process kind of useless...).

1. COPY OF A PIECE BY CRAIG MULLINS (currently the main image on his website). This guy knows how to paint! Great place to start, especially to observe skin tones.

THIS IS THE COPY: (ps cs2, 1.5 - 2 hours)
http://student.mica.edu/pmacgowan/scraps/craigmullins.jpg

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL:
http://student.mica.edu/pmacgowan/scraps/craigmullinsoriginal.jpg


2. COPY OF REMBRANDT'S "SELF PORTRAIT AS THE APOSTLE SAINT PAUL". This is one of my favourite paintings of all time. Also a great piece for skin tones and warm/cool contrast.

THIS IS THE COPY: (ps cs2, 3 - 3.5 hours)
http://student.mica.edu/pmacgowan/scraps/rembrandt1.jpg

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL:
http://student.mica.edu/pmacgowan/scraps/rembrandt1original.jpg

[Patton Art]

this thread=awesome! I got a question though:

how are people getting their prints to copy from? I have a verrrry crappy printer. I want to get a nice sized print, close to the size of the original painting, that'll look decent to copy from. I just want to practice modelling like Bouguereau, Ingres, etc... just want to do some heads or torso's

so has anyone used Kinko's? That's all I can think of, but it's 40 minutes away for me.

[the_allejo05]

a few copies..
http://images.artwanted.com/large/02/18782_323802.jpg
http://images.artwanted.com/large/87/18782_324587.jpg
http://images.artwanted.com/large/49/18782_324749.jpg

[cepator]

Warrior profile by Leonardo Da Vinci
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4467/01helmet0cm.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01helmet0cm.jpg)


Not finished yet
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2909/dsc018496tz.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc018496tz.jpg)
crits are welcome

[the_allejo05]

cepator you are brave..hehe..leonardo is one of the toughest to copy hehe..being michelangelo and raphael the other two!!!

[the_allejo05]

hmm a copy after a Durer etching..i used a mechanical pen, fun but difficult.
http://images.artwanted.com/large/41/18782_329541.jpg

[shiv_d]

this is a study of Craig Mullins's Gladiator piece. I added a few colors of my own on the gladiator. i didn't wanna copy it exactly, so i went in with a loose brush. Mullins is just incredible, he knows how to play with light.

my version:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4052/shivmullinsstudy4iq6ea.jpg

original:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9349/armsraised0pm.jpg

[hotei]

Here's a rough and unfinished Bouguereau copy. My scanner wasn't being very cooperative today.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/sbrandly/eveningmood.jpg

Some impressive stuff in this thread.

[the_allejo05]

nice hotei...i copied bougerau once in pencil..he is very delicate on his paintings..

[Yandor]

Here is one of the many bargue plates I have done. I'm about 1/2 way through now and hope to have the first set of plates completed by the end of year.

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_1.jpg


http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_2.jpg


http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_5.jpg


http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_8.jpg

[the_allejo05]

nice yandor..i did copy up to plate 56 but there were rather superficial copies..most of them in half an hour hehe..nothing very serious..are you doing them sight size?..i did about three of them that way on my own..at my school i did about 5 of them..well those were the most difficult..sight size,exactly as seen..it looks like you are doing a pretty good job.. try one or two sight size..although i nothing beats freehand drawing..

[Yandor]

I'm not using sight size. However, I do get my top/bottom and left/right most points of the image and then start cutting in from there. I would like to try it, but also want to eventually just be able to look and see the angle/length of the line and go at it from there. If you've ever seen a demo by Tony Ryder he is able to do this and capture the object near perfectly.

[waronmars]

Here's a sargent study I did a week or two back...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/waronmars/sargentcopy2.jpg

[JustinBeckett]

Kind of old now, but i thought i would ad it.

Quick Zorn study - Digital

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5387/zorncopy72kd.jpg

[Mitchell]

My name is mitch, i'm 18 years old and I also did the same sargent copy as waronmars did. Here is my version:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/xLOVELIFEx/Sargentstudycopy3.jpg

[mikehan!]

A pastel of part of a Sargent:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~hanye/3June2006_PollyPastel_small.jpg

[the_allejo05]

people love sargent..hello there are more artists!! hehe.. jk he is one of the best ever in my opinion..

[Zaknafain]

many interesting studies in this thread...
sorolla:
http://www.destrucreative.com/zaknafain/folio/latal.JPG

[Mr_S_14]

Michaelangelo did the original
this is my copy:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/Mr_S_14/Mr_S_14Cleopatra.jpg

~Mr_S_14

[Egets]

Zagnafain whoopieeee what a colours !!!!!!!!!!! Im jealous now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Allejo05 I just love etching in any form, to me its like the perfect medium if it just didnt need so much trouble and all, one would have to be a real artist to have all those facilities !!!!!!!!!!


Hotei I love that bouguereau study looks like the kind that I would like to study myself too, yours is going fine there .......



Skeiff wow your interpretation is cool, congrats ! Have you received any big revelations when you completed this painting :D and what they would be /

[the_allejo05]

latest mastercopies..i enjoy these:
durer and his difficult hatching
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9OaCUYHtGRcj1J-m_r31jR4p9WwlUEnW9I-s6-lSdV9nxwQzFNW0dLUJj04_o_rtVQ86jmfBt1pgRSHfslwKTuuA VEM9wIQ78awYKFbrUqcL6HVoJfKNYsc
some french ideal head..good practice...http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9Lvp5KXjyi5YC3UCTfjJMI2nWHd apnGKfog5Pw_wPVmWSW3iPRzoWS3OsKUw9rXUgW4Oog7giAgil S-Cpr6UCAw4L0rF06VQi3nb8JUNAWhhUU3StEYtjcY
having fun with hulk in oil (alla prima) and a three figure study after Mims..i added the angel for fun..although my figures are way less modeled...http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9AW4mqB-EaIoZLLl2V91L0oaYcU9Flr5oDOz9LzYmSTIE7SWZ_yaoCl-SuzBKZe34sZ-MxffH7OsfykCjl25WSvJKRweMtwtUyeUMhgDOUHg
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9LLVLYMpUVmEMTawrEmElJsSvDE ZqM_R3g3bc1VKdJ-LafXNgcUeZWhmMcgdU52M3n-EBRRDxSY3bbLTsxNGRcREDq_G_ovuOnIQqrWsAFM1VBlnKQBwS xg
messed up on the eyes...http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9AycUPHKF-7-XRzZHM_JUxuooDgWsttfqLrdCG8Tgd5xacT2iOOafgSwlE7ezR a-UYmjoYcV9nT4uWx2Uc6LrjbDfIMqSatPMG_cDVQLkZ4OG1jKxp rQdPo
Mr. Rubens...http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9D_Q0mMLdqZIFWwaiXgu__nGp0X 9Nh_rozVt_h9NA0dJcDXyG8mG3c2ZvW_YVHw2UuhZw5O-yTDELBWs_uib0LHJwQ0Za4L6wG11VY14GzIaWy5LlB2IZkQ http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9K7sEezOFE9XLGW5E_HmMzO7A45 Y7AqA0EpC0qoRLFb5Xq3dC0kfAXLhhC-5yI567quO_3sA6MB8bT1SwPlPml9whAPwwrzr2quyWA_22CB_k T4NJ7QQLJ0
Sheppard... Hals demo..very tough..colors are not very good because of picture..

http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9JWJiZY4d0DPMQ8usnwsNPvlczA Co6j4ZPq8uskIulFw71d81G58hQwClIeVxd_Y32kTQAtsUxEiz iJhUCclRW2Zleh3eHJhoULrflLNcTjh5otyIMyOstY
watercolor and ink... no ruler..practicing my straight lines...
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9PX47UdgvnGREQUl4nbn5LYmBXV p8JP1iTHNyQDXqiGb9zPNp6I1kQoEn3rJ_uB47BsCxxcZ7MTaY Jo4bH6MkfpKn3cHD-ccjtEiYJvnWXi_eduuzw-egKI
and old copy after parmigiano I think..done quickly http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9ON9_g_ISmUW5-mLa_hukhLyJJXjcDVYqxsDOEideKmunb-d9O8xkdPCw4-dFNzaPYgd9utjJuiDs0I7WRi4VHJyQjLSE7dXLIeAPPtuHKhV_ HKJ4jOpTCQ

[the_allejo05]

well what can I say.. I basically finished the Perugino copy at around 3:30 am hehe..all the is left is maybe putting some black glaze over the eyes and adding more hair in the next session... I noticed his left eye is messed up..but oh well ..i learned a lot.. I had like 6 or 7 sessions counting the preparatory drawing.. I learned a lot..for example..that excellent drawing is most important..that i need to practice more circles..(I had a tought time making the halo over his head)...i learned that i dont like cadmium red..I am not really using my palettle here just the colors i got laying around.. I learned that having a firm and secure touch is a must (so i will be drawing with pen and ink more). that painting tighter is more difficult than loose...and that i have fun using colors and playing with glazes..there is a bit of glare sorry..
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pUr2osLO3XWgbO8Zoo02M9ECutTv4GvKmK8QDggyGl2a-x688EhQRNmnJcH_2BEhb7wc-iLIYcU7QhiTlH6iax2U7HydVegbPogNygM1VO925NkDGM8RH2M ohmk_EOnenW2-ToXVqPwE

[rblitz7]

Here is one of the many bargue plates I have done. I'm about 1/2 way through now and hope to have the first set of plates completed by the end of year.

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_1.jpg


http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_2.jpg


http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_5.jpg


http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/jem266/artwork/bargue_8.jpg
Hey I was wondering where I could find the original drawings you copied from? great drawings btw.

[darkwolfb87]

Study of Alsatian Girl by Jean-Jacques Henner

[Estrata]

Wow, there are so many amazing people up here I don't really want to post mine. ^_^ I have to learn to not be embarrassed by my inadequacies, lol.

Original Rembrandt detail:
http://webpages.charter.net/the_andertons/rembrandto.jpg

Mine: :D
http://webpages.charter.net/the_andertons/rembrandt.jpg

[ArtznCraphs]

Some would say that when doing copies if you're not working in the same or similar method to the original artist, the value of the exercise is limited. They reason that the very qualities that make a painting worth emulating are a result of the method used in painting them. For example, the sharp, detailed, rich quality of a Van Eyck - painted on oak panel, in a series of oil rich layers superiimposed over each other, on a bright ground - cannot be reproduced on coarse canvas, with one layer of opaque paints and turpentine on a medium grey toned ground. A cool halftone created by scumbling flesh tone over an umber shadow is different than the same done in solid paint.

Of course, one can study the masters with a different goal in mind such as value or color composition, in which case simple broad paint studies can be done

[Naomi Ningishzidda]

Such nice, nice copies! Here is mine, life size drawing after Michelangelo's Giuliano tomb (Guiliano head)! Sorry if you already saw it. This is a cast drawing, @ 90 hours ish (over a period of six months). No other photos, it sold so quickly at a gallery I didn't have a moment to get a better capture! :[

http://www.thetengu.com/naomichanart/images/medici.jpg

[Jens]

Here's one from sargent i did a while back

http://users.pandora.be/NO1/Jens/sketch/sargentstudy.jpg

[Slaving_maniac]

posted this one in my sb thread but it belongs here :P Artist is Michelangelo.

[arttorney]

After "Open Green" by Wassily Kandinsky

[arttorney]

After "Jules Bastien-Lepage" by Auguste Rodin (only the sculpture is Rodin, background is LACMA sculpture garden wall)

[Rich Pellegrino]

Here's one I did a few months back. After Sargent, he's popular around here, and for good reason! Oils on panel 25 1/4x 30

[Coen]

My first master copy (Michelangelo), tips more than welcome :)

http://coen.3d-sea.nl/sp/MICHELANGELO%20Buonarroti%20Ignudo%20study%20shade d2.jpg

[foggle]

Hey, I'm new to these forums (not entirely true since ive been lurking round here for months, just not actually posting anything) but I came across this thread and decided that it was about time i started contributing somewhat. So I thought id be a bit more ambitionus than usual and so started on my first master copy, by Raphael, called the Study of Adam.

On the subject, does anyone else here use a ruler and measurements to plot out the reference points for the copy, or is it likely to decrease the value gained from the excercise (I'm almost completely self taught so I dont really know which is the right answer). Either way, It's a bit late now, but I found It helped a lot, not just in plotting out the basic framework, but in analysing the way Rapahel did it in the first place. Having seen him at first glance, it seemed quite heavy going, with lots of musculature and twisting, but I see now that in fact its a lot more delicate and flowing. All the joints (certainly in this piece anyway) are in line with eacother or follow the same curve - even as far as the neck.

Hopefully Ill be able to take a phot and pst it up here in a couple of days when its finished, though to the hige amounts of A-Level homework at the moment im not sure ill be able to finish it so soon.

[arttorney]

Foggle. Why not try one each way? I think this is to be a learning experience. I know I used a ruler on the Kandinsky copy, but mostly for a straight edge. I also kind of eyeball measured the piece from my bench, holding the ruler toward the painting while I decided how to cut the paper to dimensions approximating the piece. They'll definitely pay attention to what you are doing down at the museum. If you are doing this at home you don't have to worry as much about the security guards getting concerned. Why not figure out how everything is connected?

[foggle]

Well, after a busy few days, I finally managed to finish it. It's a copy from Raphael's "Study of Adam" (apologies if the photo's a bit a dodgy)

[Coen]

Nice study Foggle, I got some new ones too:

Daumier:
http://coen.3d-sea.nl/_sketch/10_07_06/mastercopy_DAUMIER_don_quixote_and_sancho_panza_sm .jpg

Michelangelo:
http://coen.3d-sea.nl/_sketch/10_07_06/mastercopy_MICHELANGELO_dawn_sm.jpg

Ribera:
http://coen.3d-sea.nl/_sketch/10_07_06/mastercopy_RIBERA_Saint_Onufri_sm.jpg

[Absurd]

foggle: Nice values! Good call on measuring, the shape is right on. The only real crits I have are that the facial features and the values on the left foot are a bit off. For the face I would suggest lightly placing lines showing the direction of the head and then using those to approximate the facial features.

Coen: Nice work, I really like your Michelangelo. The value changes are nice and subtle, but try pushing the darks darker. If you are using a pencil try using a softer (6Bs, etc.) pencil for the darks.

The values in your Ribera piece are a bit off. you're missing some shadows such as around the right arm and his far side. It may help to turn to painting to greyscale in photoshop. Good work though, keep it up.


My studies:

Using the works suggested on http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=405198&page=1&pp=15.

Caravaggio, Christ at the Column
http://www.wga.hu/art/c/caravagg/09/56christ.jpg

Rubens, Cupid Making his Bow
http://www.wga.hu/art/r/rubens/21mythol/14mythol.jpg

These were primarily a value study. My values tend to suck, so recently I've started to work on them. Pardon the folds in these, I was recylcing old newsprint. C&C please!

[Absurd]

I'm doing a sculpture of a fat man in class with theme of gluttony. I figured I'd do a study of a fat man in preperation.

"Bacchus" by Rubens.
http://www.wga.hu/art/r/rubens/23mythol/53mythol.jpg

[incolorinred]

Caravaggio copy in charcoal
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/incolorinred/061030-004.jpg

[Craig D]

More on the semi modern side of things,
20 by 24" oil
after A. J. Casson, 1931 Old Shore at Salem

[the_allejo05]

hmm a copy..
http://images.artwanted.com/large/05/18782_406805.jpg

[christine]

your compositions are very profession.The first limo is very terseness and the lines are tidiness .But the disadvantage that the figure is too coarse.

[Burnt]

it feels like a huge undertaking to copy a masterwork and i'm still a noob. should i wait til i've gained more skill or should i just dive if head first and if i've jumped in, how should i go about starting one (noob point of view)? it just sounds overwhelming...

[chaosrocks]

the only advice I have for you....jump in..do it..don't be afraid the master won't be insulted. and if you only learn one thing from it and the rest looks like crap.
that's ok
and if the crew around here pull it apart..thats ok tooo
more art! faster!
my copy in progress
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/chaosrocks/2.jpg
the original
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/chaosrocks/3.jpg

chaos

[Act.Appalled]

Heres a master study I did after visiting the Getty Museum. Rembrandt's Old Man in Military Costume.

Mine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/gearshiftx/Master_Study.jpg

Original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/gearshiftx/rembrandt004.jpg

[mark malone]

Anders Zorn Copy: Painter IX.:bashful:


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/1_014Custom.jpg


& Original:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Zorn_Anders_Ols_MariaCustom.jpg

[mark malone]

Ingres Head study:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/8aCustom.jpg

[palette]

Some would say that when doing copies if you're not working in the same or similar method to the original artist, the value of the exercise is limited. They reason that the very qualities that make a painting worth emulating are a result of the method used in painting them. For example, the sharp, detailed, rich quality of a Van Eyck - painted on oak panel, in a series of oil rich layers superiimposed over each other, on a bright ground - cannot be reproduced on coarse canvas, with one layer of opaque paints and turpentine on a medium grey toned ground. A cool halftone created by scumbling flesh tone over an umber shadow is different than the same done in solid paint.

Of course, one can study the masters with a different goal in mind such as value or color composition, in which case simple broad paint studies can be done

Discourses on Art by Sir Joshua Reynolds Discourse Two addresses the topic of how one might most beneficially go about copying from the masters.

[Juhani Jokinen]

Here's a master copy of Michelangelos Pieta reference (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Michelangelo_Petersdom_Pieta.JPG/325px-Michelangelo_Petersdom_Pieta.JPG)

hope you enjoy.

JJ

[mark malone]

Sargent Study: Artrage2.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/HeadofGirl5Custom.jpg

[SophieT]

This is represent Frida's self portrait , made with soft pastels..

[Vaejoun]

Hi, I am new to this thread, but I try to do some copies as well.

The ones I wanna do:
Watercolors from Bodo Meier (a german artist - I dont think someone knows him)
and Drew Struzan (Artworks for Movie Posters and DVD covers, like Star Wars, Indiana Jones and much more.)

PLEASE: If anyone knows a page where I can find some high res scans of his works, it would help very much. I only get this little pieces. --°
Does someone own the artbook ? Maybe you could scan one or two for me ?

[the_allejo05]

michaelangelo from the sistine chapel..im planing to copy most if not all figures in it..i have the book:) done with black conte and chalkboard white chalk on newsprint..this guy is hard to do..too perfect!! hehe
http://images.artwanted.com/large/81/18782_457881.jpg

[Visionspring]

I'm in love with the work of the Dutch masters, they certainly knew their stuff -

http://sanjana.nilut.com/cgnz/088h.jpg
http://sanjana.nilut.com/cgnz/088hdet.jpg

Original can be found over here - http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=13641

I tried to get the proportions right by using the Grid method - Yay for the grid tool in photoshop and painter ^^ I learned a lot about shading skin - like how it pays to add a bit of a highlight colour when transitioning from light to shadowed areas of skin, to create a greater illusion of translucency. I hope the collar was effective in preventing her from gnawing at her stitches!! :bashful:

[Sketch Monkey]

Here is my attempt. 2 hours in Painter and finished in Photoshop. I learned a lot on this one. The way Sargent carves out his forms using simple brushstrokes is genius. My painting looked like a flat underpainting for the majority of the time it took to paint it. As soon as I started adding the highlights, it suddenly looked dimensional. I want to do some more soon. I saved some of the process stages if anyone wants to see them.

Here is my copy
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/digitalmuse/sargent_copy.jpg

Here is the original
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/digitalmuse/sargent_head-2.jpg

[Sketch Monkey]

I put a quick animation together of the Sargent copy process.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/digitalmuse/sargent-copy1.gif

[Blackhawk]

Great master copies everyone. There's one piece of advice I'd give though that I think everyone could utilize in this thread.

When doing a master copy, try to capture everything about the original, the technique, the exact form, value, edges, EVERYTHING. You want yours to be indistinguishable from the original.

The true value in doing a master copy comes from the intense study of trying to do exact replication, no matter how painful, as the nuances really begin to pop at you and you begin to understand a bit what the artist was doing and how he did it. Additionally, it will really hone your hands and your eyes. Don't be ashamed also if you takes you a long time to finish a master copy. It's meant to be an exercise moreso than a work all your own. Although the pride you gain from doing a great copy and the knowledge you gained from it is definitely all your own.

[mark malone]

study rather than a copy....with some added little twists of my own:

RUBENS, Pieter Pauwel
Two Satyrs
1618-19

Painted in Corel Painter IX:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/ofdwad_018Custom.jpg

[panchosimpson]

hello, great work everybody! here are my contributions to the cause, first one is hals, second one is copley, third one velazquez and last one is durer

[Sketch Monkey]

Here is another Sargent copy.

Here is mine
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/digitalmuse/agnew-copy-web.jpg


Here is a closeup
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/digitalmuse/agnew-copy-crop-web.jpg

Here is the original
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/digitalmuse/agnew-original.jpg

[BurntUmber]

Michelangelo. The Creation of Adam ( excerpt ) WIP Very early, Oil on Canvas.

About 2 hours at this stage.

Not exactly a straight copy as I've chosen the limited colour pallet to suit the paintings final location ( my mothers kitchen ) Blasphemy I know. Lets just say its pre restoration colours ;)

http://i16.tinypic.com/471w2n4.jpg

[Ben Mauro]

leyendecker studies from a while ago.

4 values, round brush.

http://www.artofben.com/ley_studies.jpg

[Maxine Schacker]

There is no way to do a meaningful "copy" without it being a "study." The pieces that work show thought about major masses and reflect awareness of why the artist made his/her choices.

[Maxine Schacker]

Studying from the masters can serve many purposes. Quick studies can be done to think about composition. We seem to learn better by moving our hand than by just looking. You can choose one artist at a time and do a daily composition study eithe in color or black and white, just looking for the movement of tone and/or color, the gesture through the page or canvas. After awhile one feels a more intimate knowledge of the artist and his way of organizing the page. Early on i also did two copies of Degas pastels - in oil. It forced me, among other things, to use my brush differently. It also helped to feel how he pulled colors through his page. I know it had a positive impact on my own painting. I'm tech challenged ( and older than most of you) but hope eventually to figure out how to post work.

PS Sketch Monkey, what a beautiful and sensitive copy!

[Shantih]

I feel a bit shamed posting mine in here, but do it I shall. A Bougueraeu and then Michelangelo -

[PenDiablo]

This is a FANTASTIC study.. Brava!!!

[Coen]

Why ashamed Shantih? I like these drawings, especially the Michelangelo. You got some great lines (gotta love his arm), wish I had such control of linework! Keep it up :)

[e388]

Great Job :)

[cubesoflard]

I was going to post up some of sargents but there are already so many. So here's one from Durer or Sheppard.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/cubesoflard/DurersNude.jpg

[cubesoflard]

Seems like this is a good thread to ask this question: does anybody know of a good website that has a huge collegtions of master paintings? The one i'm using right now is the abcgallery.com. Its kind of limited and the pics are low quality.

[Coen]

cubesoflard - Hey, these sites have a huge database, check it out:
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/contents.asp
http://www.wga.hu/index1.html

[cubesoflard]

Hey thanks Coen, this should be very helpful.

[Rudeone]

Seems like this is a good thread to ask this question: does anybody know of a good website that has a huge collegtions of master paintings? The one i'm using right now is the abcgallery.com. Its kind of limited and the pics are low quality.

Take a look at the Rijksmuseum website (http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/artists.jsp?char=A&lang=en) as well, they have an extensive catalogue with hi-res images of pieces by the old masters.

Here's a master copy I did of a self-portrait by Rembrandt in which he pictured himself as the apostle St Paul.
Done in photoshop with the purpose to study the master's way of lighting and the many different variations in color he used in this particular masterpiece.

[Flake]

Seems like this is a good thread to ask this question: does anybody know of a good website that has a huge collegtions of master paintings?

You've already got some great suggestions for websites but here's another good one Elwell posted a while back.
http://www.sandstead.com/gallery.html

[Big Bad Wolf]

Copy of Michelangelo's lost painting of Leda and the swan. Done in charcoal, hard&soft pastels. I'm planning to redo it in oils.


www.langeveld-art.nl

[timpaatkins]

Havent posted in a long time, so I thought Id get the ball rolling again.
Michelangelos Study for Haman. Mine is too compressed, thatll teach me to measure!
18x24, red and black chalk.

127747127748

And here is the orig.

[timpaatkins]

Another one from me.

Thsi is after Pierre Paul Prud'hon

Mine is 18x24, blue strathmore with white chalk and Conte pencil, his is 11x17
Again, Im having trouble finding my way with the back muscles. I have my Simblet anatomy book next to me, and my Hogarth aswell, but still, I get lost very easily. Ill just keep going! I aslo feel very clumsy whith the mediums, and I am lacking the subtelties (sp) and value ranges. Lets hope the next one is better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/timoat05460/strudy2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/timoat05460/org2.jpg

[timpaatkins]

Original Hendrick Goltzius, red chalk on 15 x 8, Im on 18x24
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/timoat05460/gh.jpg135385

[Senira]

Here's a John Williams Godward study I've been working on a for the last couple of days. I've got no idea how long it took; probably 6-9 hours. Godward does lovely portraiture, and I had a lot of fun trying to decipher how he managed to make the blush of the face blend in with the paleness of her neck.

I didn't paint the marble, as you can tell; what little texture is there is just an overlay layer I slapped on because I had to stop working on this so I could do my REAL homework.

[marinedale]

Thanks for the info on websites for paintings. I usually use abcgallery as a reference, but I did find it limited in choice.

[tcarlson]

Some Sargent copies that I made at the Metropolitan museum

http://www.tjcarlson.com/misc/jssargent1net.jpg

http://www.tjcarlson.com/misc/jssargent2net.jpg

http://www.tjcarlson.com/misc/Sargentsthehermit.jpg

[sve]

After Infanta Maria Teresa by Velasquez

[Destinatus]

here's some copies I did of master sketches:
http://cyber-sky.org/albums/userpics/10002/april15.jpg
http://cyber-sky.org/albums/userpics/10002/June6.jpg

[molotov_billy]

leyendecker studies from a while ago.

4 values, round brush.

http://www.artofben.com/ley_studies.jpg

These are great! I love leyendecker, makes me want to try a couple. You captured his style very well.

[Grief]

diebenkorn's Coffee mastercopy. ( i used 100% palette knife for my copy though) only about 4 hours across two sessions.

mine, oil on canvas
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ninjau1/CRW_5230.jpg

Diebenkorn (bad image, his is far superior ._.)
http://www.uoregon.edu/~nholmes/template_images/diebenkorn_coffee.jpg

[color is way off on the photos, they're closer in person]

[Idiot Apathy]

Did this one in charcoal a ways back:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/Ragnarok27/Sketchbook/img2007-03-26_004.jpg

[zou]

Idiot apathy: i like very much you way of creating such effect with charcoal.
Can u help me ?
Arer u using a conté pencil, hard or soft ? or stick ? a mix ? wich type of paper !

did u created the white hatch on his hear with your nails ?

i tried this rembrant to get some hatching habits

[themissinglink]

here is a sargent master copy, sorry for the blurry photo, i suck at photographing my work

[Brun]

i did this yesterday, took me 40 minutes, now that i see it again i kinda think it sucks, but i'll post it anyways

158588

158591

[Rist]

Here is a rembrandt I have done:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4342/untitled23od5.jpg

[hedwordup]

i hope this thread doesnt die out. heres a carracci study took about 2 hours and its still unfinished.

[Lohan]

uhg. i suck.

sargent

http://www.tgarbarini.com/dump/sargent-small.jpg

david

http://www.tgarbarini.com/dump/david.jpg

[chaosrocks]

renoir

I got bored

[sweetoblivion314]

here is a Prud'hon copy i did a bit ago.

mine:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=170129&stc=1&d=1184630857

original:
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=15256&hires=1

[Jasonwclark]

Hi all...

This is my first post here at Concept Art. I have no formal training in the visual arts, but I've always enjoyed drawing and I like the feel of this place. Don't ask me why, but for whatever crazy reason I decided to study classics and philosophy in college. Now the money's run out, and art school is probably a distant dream... but I still fancy myself a fan of Techne and Poesis. Anyhow, since I'm already here cruising about, I thought I'd share something I've been working on for the past few years.

Its a study for the right panel of a planned triptych, which I hope complete sometime before I expire. Right now everything is drawn on the reverse side of a sheet of poster-board, which blows royally since it will probably be as brown as a paper bag in 50 years (curse that employee at Michaels who lead me astray!) but I guess that's just more encouragement to take up oil painting. At any rate, the working title is Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes: Execution of the Idolater. The imagery is for the most part referential, taken either from the old masters, the living masters, or from anything else I saw that resonated with me. The organizing theme of the two outer panels is envy, and the subject of the larger piece is my own take on the tradition of art history and western aesthetic theory. The subject of the central panel I'll keep secret until its ready, but right now I like to think of it as a treasure map, or a kind of 'Where's Waldo?' for people who share my interests. Your basic act of study, plagiarism, and self adulation on a grand scale, conducted over a period of several years, and (if I'm lucky) just hubristic enough to get me noticed for a short while... before Nemesis strikes me down >:D

Anyhow, here's Dextros. Hope it keeps your eyes busy


BELLUM OMNIUM CONTRA OMNES (salvete Domini, masters study etc.)
Pencil Drawing 24x30"
By Jason W. Clark (2001-2005)

I live for the tiny details, so I also posted a higher resolution copy at imageshack... for anyone who's interested. :)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8250/bullumomniumcontraomneshr7.jpg

[chaosrocks]

a vermeer study
I dont think I will ever get that head angle right

[Patata]

Well I would first like to say that I am new here. I live in Canada, Toronto, blah blah, blah. Anyways I did a master copy last year and I am going to show you all it. I will be trying to do a master copy every two weeks for the rest of the year. Hopefully I succeed. Anyways here's my copy and I got a few more coming

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa132/Patata909/PontormoMasterCopy.jpg

Photobucket seemed to kill the quality of the drawing. O well.

[Juhani Jokinen]

here's a study of Eero Järnefelt's ' Washing on the shore' 1889

[Destinatus]

A copy of Bouguereau's Portrait of Gabrielle Cot:

[the_allejo05]

my latest copy, Michelangelo offcourse, oil on cardboard
most of my pieces are on the thread My own journey, happy copying
http://photos.hi5.com/0009/445/781/OzQtot445781-02.jpg

[Patata]

I so want to post my new master studies, but my brother's digital camera is screwed up so ill post them later. Wish this thread got more attention. Master copies/studies are so great when it comes to learning art in general.

[Shantih]

A little Bougueraeu copy. I'm still craptastic at Photoshop painting -

[sadie]

This is my first post! I'm really impressed with the community here and the level of artistic ability throughout the site.

This is graphite on paper, 9 x 12, about 8 hours.

The second and third images are diagrams I superimposed over my study to show how I analyze while I draw, to get accurate proportions and tilts.

The last image is an earlier sketch I did from the original in the Met. It looks really angular and clunky, but this is the same technique I used for the more developed study. I use all straight lines and break them down into smaller & smaller segments. No curved lines ever.

If you are interested, I posted more about my process on my blog:
http://sadievaleri.blogspot.com/2007/10/after-michaelangelos-sibyl.html

[panchosimpson]

Rembrandt, ballpoint pen :)

[Arshes Nei]

Pontormo has some really interesting style quirks, like his eyes and way he does pinched joints.

This was done on the bus, in a small sketchbook I had. Got lots of motion sickness in the process. I am working on several more serious ones too.

Need to work better at planning the composition and that arm definitely needed to be foreshortened better.

[LifeWontWait]

It is garbage compared to you all but i thought I would give it a go anyways... I don't know how I made such a pretty face look so ugly... Pierre-Paul Prud'hon is the artist btw.

250886250888

[Pesmerga]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5123/leonardodavincihomyk1.jpg

Not quite happy with Leoda's face.

[Dian3]

My crappy Phil Hale study:

[B u r l]

Some repros I did last month in acrylics
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6466/reprorobertyl3.jpghttp://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3193/blahcr7.jpghttp://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2152/sargentzp2.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/310/sargentselfportraitui4.jpghttp://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6599/shitri7.jpg

[Destinatus]

Thats a great study Dian3

After Zorn

[galen]

ballpoint pen

[galen]

ballpoint pen

[darkwolfb87]

Studies of Bougereau's study

[Barts]

my humble offering

TB

[panchosimpson]

2 after velazquez

[Maidith]

A Prud'hon study I did a while back :)

[Dian3]

Destinatus: thanks!

An Ilya Repin Study, Photoshop CS:

[mjsz]

great work guys!

here's a sort of paraphrase after carracci

http://www.menyhei.com/gallery/watercolour/faunos2.jpg

[Asatira]

CGtalk has started another Open Figure Drawing Workshop, and the topic is hands. I chose to do the hands from Waterhouse's Destiny, which can be found here (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9643).

Things I don't like with it, but glad to do it. Will come back to this source later, I think.
351537

[galen]

..............

[CIRE]

3 sargents and 1 cornwell

[Khakibin]

My attempts at master studies in photoshop - (and because everyone else did sargent too :P )

I used at the end sharping effect, to make it not so blended...

[Zazerzs]

Alot of nice studies going on in here, but there seems to be something missing. Maybe people arnt showing the underlying work they are doing or the analysis of a piece. Most everything done by a master was laid out and designed on the goldensection. I do plan on putting mine up here when I start them but in the meantime take a look at this video

http://www.barnstonestudios.com/video/demo/playvideo_demo.html

the video is of an Analysis of Isabella Brant by Rubens

and some of the articles on this page.

http://www.barnstonestudios.com/articles/index.html

they may be of interest to some of you :)

[SoufMeng]

First time posting here!

After a Sargent drawing (i took from the "loose sketches id like to own" thread- lounge)

1~2h. P.S

[JParrilla]

hey what are some ways to get a hold of great master works to copy? Any books you could recommend? Right now I wanna focus on non color stuff to get my sense of form a bit better.. I really hate my shading.

[Zazerzs]

hey what are some ways to get a hold of great master works to copy? Any books you could recommend? Right now I wanna focus on non color stuff to get my sense of form a bit better.. I really hate my shading.

Dover publishing has a bunch of them for cheapish , check em out in local stores or on the interwebs :)

http://store.doverpublications.com/by-subject-art-dover-art-library.html

most of these are the drawings not the finished pieces but for drawing purposes they are more valuable.

[mchammer75040]

A couple of studies from busts..found elsewhere on this site:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mchammer75040/img003-1.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/mchammer75040/Untitled-4-1.jpg

[GriNGo]

Dian3 - what brushes did you use? the strokes look fantastic...

done today in about 3 hours... great great excercise... tomorrow comes another velasquez

[GriNGo]

here's my study from yesterday, today another velasquez will be in the works...

[GriNGo]

another velasquez study.. pope something!

[GriNGo]

another velasquez.. man this place is lonely! hope somebody else will post soon... or else I'll own this! :yum:

[shutupyourface]

an Adam study i did while at work today with my mechanical pencil and some finger rubbing!

[joybox]

Hey guys, these are a couple of rubens studies i did a couple of months ago. From a great rubens book. Definitly got more from doing studies from non digital sources, a lot more mental translation of colours. lot of fun.

[SoufMeng]

another velasquez.. man this place is lonely! hope somebody else will post soon... or else I'll own this! :yum:

A digital copy after sargent, im not really satisfied with it so i think ill give it another go soon.
Moreover i rushed the drawing stage, so in term of likeness its not there yet...

[the_allejo05]

my first attempt at bouguerau..im after his skin tones..which in my humble opinion is the best in history hehe
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v265/232/125/556738145/n556738145_1151223_8916.jpg

[Androgs]

here's my Bouguerau's study

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2749727365_e854673d91_b.jpg

[B u r l]

awesome thread

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2036/92762329gf6.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7506/wipremxb4.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3456/remiq8.jpg

[Kailaan]

Here Are a two I did over the weekend. Photoshop CS
First is a copy of a Frank Duveneck piece titled 'Caucasian Soldier'. I never finished this because it turns out painting while hung over is a bad idea.
The second is from a portrait of King Charles III by Anton Rafael Mengs. This is the best copy I could find online but the reproduction in my book is a lot brighter and sharp. Oh well.

[Kailaan]

Here Are a two I did over the weekend. Photoshop CS
First is a copy of a Frank Duveneck piece titled 'Caucasian Soldier'. I never finished this because it turns out painting while hung over is a bad idea.
The second is from a portrait of King Charles III by Anton Rafael Mengs. This is the best copy I could find online but the reproduction in my book is both brighter and sharper. Oh well.

[Shantih]

After Zorn -

[keith eager]

1 is my own, 1 is from a master. I'm positive you guys can tell which is which!

[Lawrence Humphrey]

H&S study from one of Lucas Cranach the Elder's Venuses. (He died 455 years ago today.


http://http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5171/p1020582bq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[dorian]

hope it's ok to post this here again!

vermeer study in oils, took about 4 weeks, two of them working all day, the other two on and off. It's about 40x42cm / 15.7x16.5in, which is pretty much the size of the original I think.
FUN! Tough! Tough fun! :yayca:

http://www.dorian-iten.com/images/dorian-milkmaid.jpg

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some close ups:

http://www.dorian-iten.com/images/dorian-milkmaid-close.jpg

and next to the original - colors in the reproduction I worked from were pretty close to my painting but different from the original. Oh well :]

http://www.dorian-iten.com/images/dorian-milkmaid-comp.jpg

[Lawrence Humphrey]

Spot on, extraordinarily well done.

[dorian]

far from it :)

[basementPicasso]

Thought I would have a go at a master copy. Have Chosen Bouguereau - Le Guepier. Have traced the painting as a starter, but all the colour work is original (no colour picking from master). Will aim to work on this all week, so will post updates each day hopefully.

Comments welcome.

[mark malone]

William Merritt Chase:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1889/wmc2desktopresolutiongv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2674/105971nuderestinglargebw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[basementPicasso]

Have done another couple of hours on this one. Learning so much about the subtleties of flesh tones and the way both colour and saturation can move the form around.

[dorian]

basementPicasso: hope it's ok to give you some feedback: you're still missing a lot of the subtleties as well as the "big picture". I know it's early on in the study but you might be wasting time going in a wrong direction. If you're not already, think of colour in it's three dimensions: hue, chroma and value. (hue = what the layman calls "color": red, blue, green, etc.); chroma = saturation/intensity or brightness/greyness; value = lightness/darkness) Examine them all and get all of them right! Otherwise you'll probably end up with something messy and confusing :)

also, to efficiency: always use the biggest brush possible to accomplish what you're doing at the moment. ("...then put it aside and pick one two sizes bigger", as they say :) ) And it probably also makes sense to completely block in the figure with a simplified 2-3 main colors first and build the more subtle information on top of that

[basementPicasso]

dorian: Thank you very much for the advice - very much appreciated. had a look at your website - that is some amazing stuff that you have there. Your Vermeer study posted here as well is just superb.

Did you start that with any kind of drawing/tracing or was it completely blocked in and then refined into detail?

Anyway, have done a bit more on mine trying to follow your advice and blocking in a bit more. Finding this to be extremely tough, which I guess it what makes it such a good exercise.

[stefd]

Klimt

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f168/stephane_david/klimt/klimt08.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f168/stephane_david/klimt/klimt03.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f168/stephane_david/klimt/klimt01r.jpg

[mark malone]

Don't know if I'll finish this, so thought I'd post what I have done so far!!

Seignac Copy:

[darkos]

Boldini, not perfect but got sick of it :P
http://orchidlan.free.fr/images/20081114_boldini.jpg

[dorian]

basementPicasso: thank youu :] I squared it up and got the basic drawing quickly that way since the exercise wasn't about drawing.
In yours, you need to watch out for value relationships and chroma, the shadow (halftone, actually) under the breast in the main figure for example is much too dark in yours, or more precisely, there's too much contrast between it and the figure in light. Almost all the flesh areas are too gray as well (= too low chroma) and look scrappy. Keep in mind that value change equals form change, so by having a bunch of darker and lighter strokes (most evident below the breast on the right) you're creating the impression of weird stuff going on under the skin that makes the form bulge in and out. That's an area that should be very clean & smooth with subtle modelling.

The little patch of the trapezius between neck and shoulder on the right is the only area that's working, though it might be a tiny bit red (hue), dark (value) and grey (chroma).
It's very simple really, you just have to reevaluate all areas with these three aspects of colour.
It might be a good idea to stick to the main figure and ignore the rest, you'll have enough to work with, there. If you decide to tackle the whole, take another look at the chroma in the background, on the left side it's also going too dark and the tree is a good opportunity to doublecheck HVC. (hue value chroma)

Keep workin! :]