space suit sketch

[AdamDillabo]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/adam278/suit-top.jpg

crits welcomed

[Robert.B]

ill let "madster" crit this one

[jabberwookie]

"DANGER! DANGER WILL ROBBINSON!"

couldnt resist. its a shame you ran out of space to finish off below the wast. i would suggest you try again and get the whole body to show.

the arms are looking a little short, which would be awkward for the person opperating it. some of the shadowing is a bit wonky and is not really working. but hey, its a good try.

something to consider might be how can you make this more interesting? at the moment its rather bland, and could be made more effectively with, say a subtle environment, full body, stronger highlights (if its a highly reflective surface).

maybe look at some pictures of cars and see how light bounces around those surfaces?

[Threshold]

ill let "madster" crit this one

I laugh aloud.

You sick freak. What, you like watching madster chew up people for trying to improve?

[Yan]

Can't see the face, seems like the head lost its way inside that accordion looking head gear. And the arm (radius and ulna) section looks far to short...not unless he got his arm cut off and replaced permanetly by those tweezers. And my biggest problem? FLAT!FLAT!FlAT! Need to get those values fixed! This is a Sketch & work in progress area so I would like to see you go back and bump it up.

Keep on Drawing

-Yan

[AdamDillabo]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/adam278/suit-top-revised.jpg

i went back and tryed to add more depth. is the ulna the other bone in the fore arm. ill fix that next and add a back ground

[Banski]

This one is better than your first sketcked but I think it still needs some depth perception.. I would suggest erasing a bit more on where the highlights are and shading in some cast shadows.

[Yan]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/adam278/suit-top-revised.jpg

i went back and tryed to add more depth. is the ulna the other bone in the fore arm. ill fix that next and add a back ground

Hey Adam, I see you revised your character. I wish you would push the tints and shades more. I took your image (hope you don't mind) and played with it just to show you what I mean.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/bigtotoro/misc/suit-tophelp.jpg

Do you see how the feel of the character changes the more I push the values? Do not be afraid to experiment and push things...and have fun with it!

This might also be of some help. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14035)

[madster]

Play nice, children! I only chew them up when they deserve it... ;)

Adam, this piece shows that you DID put time and effort into it, and that makes it MUCH better, right off the start.

Although Yan increased the contrast so high that most of your details were lost, his point was correct. You should try to make your deepest shadows almost black, which can be hard to do sometimes with a pencil or conte crayon sometimes (it's hard to tell what you've used on this. Always try to tell us, especially if you are drawing "traditional" (on paper).

You did a pretty good job on the helmet highlights, but your details on the faceplate are confusing. I thought it was a giant zipper on his face, with the tab sticking out, or else this guy is sticking his tongue out at us...

Although the forearm looks short, it could also be that he has simply retracted his claw. It would be more aesthetically pleasing to have it out further, but it is passable as it is.

Thank you for putting more work into this, and sharing it with us.
~M

[AdamDillabo]

thank you yan for doing that i see what you mean. i tried to make it darker but couldnt get the same feeling. i made the fore arm longer and cleaned up the tip of it.

you all are probly going to give me shit about useing a mechanical pencil like my aunt did but thats what im using madster.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/adam278/suit-top-revised2.jpg

[jabberwookie]

nice, i really like how your coming along with this. i think your wrapping your head around using values to bring elements of your suit closer, or further away from the viewer, which is cool. i love watching things like this progress.


i did a quick google on space suit, and tried looking for a hard body suit with a reflective surface, so you can have a look at it. there are more im sure.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/images/content/69568main_explorationcenter2.jpg

are you know editing this digitally? great progress so far, keep it up.

[madster]

Nothing wrong with mechanical pencils. I used 'em all the time in my graphics drawing classes, along with soft leads (6B's my favorite. Good easy DARK tones.)

You've done well fixing the left hand, and the shadowed areas look better with the darker values.

As I said, the extra effort you've put into this piece really shows. You're improving because you want to bad enough to keep at it. That's the spirit!

~M

[AdamDillabo]

ty mad and jabber im going to try to incorporate those red rings in to it, not red but how it reflecs. i saw this scooby doo episode with jabber jaw in it and it was awsome just like wookies. if i save your life do i get a wookie life debt cause i would like that

[AdamDillabo]

i did some more modifications and went in and tried to photoshop it a bit (didnt work how i planed first time working in it.) i think this will be the last update because the biggest problems now are with the drawling its self and it would be harder to change it then start with something new.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/adam278/suit-top-revised3.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/adam278/suit-top-revised4.jpg

[madster]

You're right Adam,
It's time to put a fork into this one, because it's done.

You now see the value situation pretty well, and have made corrections displaying that. You would spend far more time than this drawing is worth trying to Photoshop it into compliance.

The fact that you now see and understand about the shadows and highlights means this piece has taught you something, and it's time to move on to newer projects. Not everything you draw will end up "really good," but if you learn something, then the time and effort to draw it was worth it. Keep this drawing, though, so you can look back on it years from now, and remember how you learned from it.

I bet your next piece will be even better!
~M