Consider me a newbie. Need advice.

[Payback]

I'm going back to basics and life-drawings (which I've never really done before), instead of trying some half-ass concept-art skills that's going nowhere, and I could really use some pointers. What should I start with? Like simple still life pics?
Maybe you could direct me to a thread about this, cause I've been up and down these forums and I can't really find anything rock-solid.

I know some things I need to start learning.
-Shading
-Forms
-Light
-Perspective
-etc

But the thing is, I really don't know of many good exercises that can help me improve these, except studying and copying. And in what order is good to begin?

I'm thinking about joining the middle-class as well.

Sorry for being such an nuisance...

[Magus64549]

Hey Payback!

The best way to improve your life drawings skills will actually be to take a class and start drawing from a model! :)

Constant practice will improve your drawings greatly. As far as the list of things u need to learn, they are important, but I would not worry about shading too much if you are just starting out. Getting the forms to read in 3d space is more important. Having solid structures in your figures will be more important than a nice shading.

Check this link out

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.3/3.3pages/3.3vilppudrawing.html

This is Glenn Vilppu, a really good life drawing instructor. He has manuals and stuff u can buy, but this tutorial is online and free! hehe. Should get u started.

You can also get an art history book and try tracing over Old Master's drawings and paintings. Try to fit in simple cylinder forms for the bodies and limbs, and see if you can get them to read in 3D space. I would show examples, but I am too stupid to post images on this forum. Hahaha. Do I have to have my images online somewhere else first?

That's all and good luck!