C.O.W. - #015: Gluttonous Emperor

[Fozzybar]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/images/cow/cow.jpg


Round #015

Topic:
Gluttonous Emperor

Deadline:
Friday, 27 May 2005




- for any questions or help go here:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37512

note: The deadline won't be EXACTLY after a week...it can last up to 24 hours more, i am human and have to work also, you know ;)

Post your creature for this week!

[Fozzybar]

READ THIS!!!

Ok, fungi picked the topic for this round...

Everyone who wants to enter this activity, remember this is about CREATURES, NOT characters.

This means your entry should look like a general emperor like an ant-queen or a silverback gorilla...no individual emperors which are more a character!!!

[fungi]

i dont understand, why cant the creatures be characters? aslong as they arent human then whats the problem?

[Fozzybar]

Now that's what i had in mind when starting this activity...i wanted to have something like an encyclopedia with different creatures which could exist but are results of the artists imagination...something like a description of our minds fauna...

characters can't be found in animal lexicons, or? ;)

[fungi]

well that kinda destroys the whole topic for me, so feel free to change it to somthing more suitable or somthing.

[Banned_User]

Fozzy- I just want to know where to draw the line between "character" and "Creature".. was my shadow producer too much of a character..or is that considered ok as a creature by your standards? just curious, so i know for this round..
I can understand that at times something can be considered a character more so than a creature even if its not human, for example star wars: A character such as Darth Maul although not human differs in respect to a character like jar jar binks who is also a "character" but less human in appearance. There can be many creatures with human like stances, posture, body shape and anatomy..but can be considered a creature, or also a creature that would be considered more of a character if it has capabilities of wearing clothes, talking, its intellect, the way it moves...

Its hard to differ between the two.

[Fozzybar]

fungi
I don't see why this destroys the whole topic...as i said an ant-queen is a gluttonous emperor for me...so just don't give your creature clothes or weapons or whatever it makes a character...it will work fine...

MIKECORRIERO
Your Shadowless were absolutely ok, you described them as a lifeform not as "Tony - the Shadowproducer"...it wasn't an individual, more a species...now, if you want to show the creature/race which jar jar binks belongs to, draw his species, you don't need to draw jar jar binks as a character to show his species...i hope you understand what i mean...

[Phuzion]

Also, let's take oooo... a big foot/yeti. Is that sort of thing a creature or character. I guess I also kind of touched upon a character-creature for this topic... so maybe a better example would be Nemo, from Pixar's "Finding Nemo". He's both a character and a creature. Are you looking for something that does not exude human traits? And is essentially, an "animal" as would be found in the wild? Just want to clarify. Thanks ;)

-Daniel

[EDIT] :up: I think you just answered my questions. Basically, we're not supposed to be showing a specific creature, such as Javier the Yeti, rather, we show what the Yeti, as a race, look like. Noooow it's all clear. Thanks :wink:

[Fozzybar]

ok let me try to explain it with this example:

If an alien race would take the human race into an encyclopedia of the species from different galaxies, they would take a photo of an average naked human, they wouldn't take a photo of Michael Jackson with his outfit (besides that he's an alien for himself :))...look in an anatomy or biology book, there are photos of naked men/women posing naked for the cam, not wearing any clothes, jewelry or having accessoires like patches, glasses or anything else which makes an anonym human to a character with a personal story behind...that's because the reader of this book is interested in the anatomy or typical behaviour of this species not in the individual fate of the photographed man/woman...

[Fozzybar]

[EDIT] :up: I think you just answered my questions. Basically, we're not supposed to be showing a specific creature, such as Javier the Yeti, rather, we show what the Yeti, as a race, look like. Noooow it's all clear.

Ah, yes, you answered my answer while i was answering your question...;)

[Craig Houghton]

It's all crystal clear. So, I'll make a lion sitting on a throne with a crown picking his teeth and I'll call him.. oh wait. nevermind... ;)

I sort of love the topic -- it's a challenge, but no more a challenge than choosing something like 'king of the jungle' and doing a top of the food chain predator. It's also damn open-ended, so I think it'll be a good opportunity to run off to a comfort zone creature of some kind after my last three or four cow entries failed terribly. :)

-Craig

[nightfend]

Gluttonous Emperor -
Native to the nitrogen heavy moon of Sadukar II, the Gluttonous Emperor is a terrifying creature to behold. Standing at over 12 feet in height, the Emperor fears no other life form on the moon. Being the dominate predator on Sadukar, it viciously kills whatever it comes across, not caring whether it needs to eat or not. There are times when the Gluttonous Emperor eats so much it can hardly move, with litters of dead carcasses surrounding it. Many smaller predators will wait just out of sight of the Emperor to feed on the dead that it leaves behind as it moves on to another location. It is because of these violent excessive killing instincts and its status as the dominate species on the moon that has given it its name.

http://www.icondream.com/images/cow/glut_emperor04.jpg

[Banned_User]

Retracted my Entry- do not include me :dad:

[Soultek]

Hi everyone. I have been watching these creature of the week competitions now for a short while... i have finally got up the courage to try to do a creature for this weeks comp. as always i'm still learning the nicks and nacks of painter and trying to work on my color skills. I did this creature in painter ix, it took about 3.5 hours from start to finnish. I may update it a bit, but i kinda like the way it is now. I'm still learning painter and am improving every time i practice :) Thank you to everyone on these boards for the amazing inspiration!!

Virus Name: Gluttonous Emperor.

Description: The gluttonous emporer, one of the most feared of all network viruses has garnered the reputation for sucking bandwidth from it's prey with little to no animosity or pity. The gluttonous emperor is a common virus many people don't even know they have. Whenever you notice a lag spike or your internet crashes without warning, you know that the glottonous emperor has struck!

http://www.soultekdesigns.com/dropbox/glutton.jpg

[redehlert]

Whenever you notice a lag spike or your internet crashes without warning, you know that the glottonous emperor has striked!
I believe it is 'struck' not 'striked'...fyi.

Cheers,
D

[Rosco]

Have you ever wondered where certain objects disappear to? Your sock, a pet lobster, family members? They just disappear never to return. Well here at Nappy Research Co., we have discovered a logical and most fascinating explanation to your unfortunate situation.

We have discovered a new species which has been reaping the world of everything it can get its tongue around. This creature, appropriately called the living garbage disposal, was discovered by librarian Norma Hallingsworth when all 43 of her cats were consumed by this beast living in her garage. Our Nappy researchers rushed to the scene after years of suspicion to finally get the info they were looking for.

This living garbage disposal consumes anything and everything around. Like a goldfish, this creature will continue to grow as long as there is space and a continuing source of food. With tentacles for maneuverability, large arms for handling its food and a vicious and accurate tongue for hunting, this creature should be feared by all. To prevent attacks or stop this creature from eating your precious kitties, we recommend tasting bad. More specifically, eat garlic, rub your body in manure and wash your hair in pickle juice and you should be living an attack free life.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/rosco44/livingGarbageDisposal.jpg

[Soultek]

Haha, you are right redehlert. Man do i feel stupid now.. it even sounds funny when i read it back to myself. I guess that's what happens when you try to post at 5am with no sleep :).

Mikecorriero: That's a cool design for the monster. However this does not seem as strong as some of your other pieces you have posted. Is this the final drawing or are you still working on it? If i were you i would lose the "speckled" bacground and the blue border lines for the name as they are a bit distracting.

Nightfiend: Interesting idea. It feels a bit to monochromatic atm though. I think perhaps you should push the darks a bit and and get more variation in your shading. I also think that you need to establish an overall light source for the image.

Rosco: Ditch the plain black background on this. I like the idea for the creature and it has a humorous feel to it, almost cartoony. Also for yours focus on a light source and add shadows accordingly. I think you should have more variation in color weight as well. At the moment you piece seems kinda flat to me. It fits the cartoon style well, but i think you can push this piece farther.

[Banned_User]

Soultek- This was about a 15 min. pencil sketch, and then about 30 min. of rough color layed on top..I dont consider this to be a FINAL, but it is going to have to do in the mean time, while i get some real work done..and attend to more important things.

I may decide to redo this

[Soultek]

Yeah man, i know how you feel. I'm finnishing up finals here at college and hardly have time to do anything either. I wish you luck in your work and hope that all is going well. I'm looking forward to your finnished piece if you get around to it :) Your work along with a few others on this thread have inspired me greatly, and for that i thank you.

[mert_yavasca]

Great entries frinds. Good start. And soultek your signature is very cool. I think so. Good lucks. I want to join this thread but There is nothing in my mind.

[possessed]

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a71da058cb.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Galaxy exploration unit 2 - subdivision: planetary patrol
Urgent message...

We found out why our efforts to communicate with human settlement 'Harris' (planet - 8623) have lead to nothing. The planet is in ruines and the planets surface is highly unstable. Most of the bodies had to be salvaged from space since gravity has collapsed. Unfortunatly, the planet's systemlink was completely wasted so no immediate data was available. It was with enormous luck that we found the body of Duron Gezby carrying a PDA which contains terrifying information. Copying PDA data ...
*
PDA Gezby
entry ~ 334b
It came out of nowhere... Why have we heard no response from the Earth Union? They must realise the desperate situation we are in. They have to come for us!
...
The science team believes the approaching entity causes the electric disturbance and therefor all of our pleas for help have reached none.
...
God have mercy on our lives! We are too late with the evacuations, the sheer proximity of this leviathan enemy causes the planet to go insane with 'natural disasters'.
...
This may very well be my last entry, this demon from the darkest regions of space is almost upon us.
...
All hail the Gluttonous emperor! It shall devour us all and cast our sinfull souls in the abyss... How many planets has this thing consumed and where will it end. It's chilling gaze will look upon our kin and ...
*
With this horrible message the entry ends. Clearly this poor man did not have the strength to undergo the situation.
As strange as it may be, we have not found a single trace of this entity he speaks of. However, we cannot ignore the distastrous state this planet is in and send an investiga-
-ERROR in send message
- contacting sender server
- sender offline...

[young paddy1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/youngpaddy1/fatbloke3.jpg

Starting every day with 200lbs of raw meat brought to him by those of his harem that are currently fertile, the giant blue 'Emperor Sakavee' will set about his task, 10 hours of near constant sex. A large Emperor will have upto a 1000 females under his watchful eye and every summer will have to fight for every single one of them, it is unlikely he will lose to a male with a small harem as his food stocks wont be so high, however when it becomes evident that he is weakening a male will pass on his harem to a son, the son will have been a daughter fed on hormone rich excreta from the Emperor to allow her to grow wings, male genitals and the chitinous head protection used in battle. A second son will be matured and sent out to gain another harem. The wings will wither to less than a tenth original size after the first sexual encounter.

[redehlert]

hey youngpad - maybe a little humanoid, but then again, i got by with my nocturnal predator gal and was only slapped around afterwards. keep trying to distort it more and more to move away from the shape you presently have. but what do i know....
peace.
d

[AndrewLey]

Known by the locals as “arse face” the Gluttonous Emperor secretes a strong odour and a sticky, glucose rich, fluid that attracts thousands of insects, birds and small mammals from miles around.

The large nose horn is used to attract the smaller females, which he grabs with his tail pincers in order to mate.

http://img209.echo.cx/img209/1906/emperor5vg.jpg

[shadoman]

AndrewLey - Hell that rocks... icky!

[PHATandy]

OK so heres mine... about 2 hours work, in Painter.. just kinda playing around really. I know theres a few mistakes.. like his 'headdress/top shell' is a little of perspective wise. Still getting used to painter so i hope this ones OK.

Marrow Confector:
Standing for Bone Marrow Consumer, the Marrow Confector, feasts on the bones of the species underlings and workers in the mating season. The emporer consumes many of the preserved corpses of other species (and his own), through the base of the huge digestive system. Digesting the bones the it takes the main materials and creates the over the top 'headdress' of bones to attract females of the species for mating, and thus contuation of its clan. The emperors of clans compete with each to consume the most corpses and bones to create the larger headdress, along with body paints and mating calls to attract the females, and reproduce, increasing there numbers.

So Far:

http://andy.kgblabs.com/artwork/COW-15.jpg

Comments appreciated.


EDIT: DiD a new ink/PS :

http://andy.kgblabs.com/artwork/COW15PS.jpg

[redehlert]

Hey PhatAndy - my only rec is to change the name to 'Marrow' since 'Medulla' can refer to so many other things (eg adrenal medulla, medulla oblongota-in brain, medulla of kidney, etc.). Besides, I think peeps know what marrow is and will tie in better with your concept copy.
Just my personal opinion. :blahblah:
Cheers,
D

[PHATandy]

im down with that. done :D.

[Soultek]

Nice work everyone.

AndrewLey: cool looking character, i like that style of painting, so simple yet looks slimy and whatnot. The local name "arse face" hehe, love it.

Phatandy: interesting idea, i think it would benifit a bit from a little more line variation. also that bright blue background is a bit distracting and contrasts to much with the style of the character.

young paddy1: gotta love the poo :-P

redehlert: cool idea, i would like to see this in color, it has a giger'ish feel to it atm. (which is a good thing) :)

possessed: I love that story, very cool. I think you need to work out the image a bit more though. try adding some more highlights and reworking the background a bit, try to make it look more "spacey" with stars and perhaps a more defined planet.

rosco: glad you changed the background on that, looks much better. perhaps add some stylized sillouetes[sp?] of trees in the background.

keep up the good work guys.
Soultek

[Prehistoric]

since 'Medulla' can refer to so many other things (eg adrenal medulla, medulla oblongota-in brain, medulla of kidney, etc.). Besides, I think peeps know what marrow is and will tie in better with your concept copy.D

you're such a nerd, dave. i love it. it's too bad you're married and not a woman. :perv:

[redehlert]

<3 you like me! you really like me!
hey, thanks pre - total crack up, bro....
okay, so i'm bowin' out of this week's cow. sorry folks, too much on my plate. and it's such a cool topic. i've deleted my entry from an earlier post and look forward to everyone's ditty.
hey soultek - thanks - i'd definitely do it in color, but had already switched gears to do something else. :nohope: dive into my sketch book thread to see what i was up to.
good luck all!
peace. d

[draw]

Well done everyone.

Soultek- dark and freaky
Andrewley- nice one looks like a real pig.
Nightfend- really like yours dude, but the arm with the bone looks like its at wierd angle to me.

Here is my first attempt at creature of the week. Well first time I have had it done on time to submit.

I will keep watching and hopefully continue posting as it keeps my imagination and skills in check.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/markfeiler2004/COW.jpg

[duddlebug]

Hello again... this is my first 'proper' entry for C.O.W.... after gingerly testing the water with 'Vernon and Fluff' in the Symbiotic Predator thread. I think i've got the hang of it now... Creatures rather than characters, innit...? So here's my Gluttonous Emporer...

Gluttonus Pegasus Oinkus

The Gluttonus Pegasus Oinkus is the female of the Pegasus Oinkus. She has a penchant for sticky buns, cherry tarts and chocolate eclairs, which over her brief, bloated life time lead to the accumalation of flab, and fuel a constant stream of eggs. Only one egg will contain a female. And following the hatching of the female, Gluttonus Pegasus Oinkus will gradually accumulate wind as her egg producing bumhole ceases egg production and bungs itself up with sugary waste. Within days she will burst.

The male of the species, simply Pegasus Oinkus, enjoys a life of servitude to his ample 'emporer'. Up to several hundred males (the number depends largely on the number hatched before the one female egg comes along) will scour the countryside for unsuspecting picnic-goers and patisserie delivery vans, to steal the cakes their queen so desperately desires. They are small and nimble and fly with grace and great aplomb. They love their emporer dearly and will continue to feed her even after her demise in a fit of grief and loss. Their devotion to the bloating sticky carcass that was once their queen, makes them easy prey to predators and hunters, and in certain parts of the British Isles they are considered a great delicacy. Their sweet tasting meat goes particularly well with fresh figs and vanilla dairy ice cream.

The young female Gluttonus Pegasus Oinkus will fly in search of her first confectionary, after which she will start laying eggs and commence a whole new cycle of bun-stealing, sickly sweet reproduction....

http://img262.echo.cx/img262/4838/gluttonusoinkus1dy.jpg

[duddlebug]

And i thought i'd join in with some comments...

nightfend: AaaRgh!! Scary!! Wouldn't wanna meet him on a dark night strolling across the moon of Sadukar. He looks a little bigger than 12 feet though... maybe he wouldn't be so tough... hmmm...

MIKECORRIERO: Euurh.. cool. He's like a bloated caterpillar on legs... Does it always rain where he lives..?

Soultek: Cool idea... i think i've got one of those fellas hanging out in my laptop...

Rosco: "More specifically, eat garlic, rub your body in manure and wash you hair in pickle juice and you should be living an attack free life." Phew... i should be fine then...

possessed: Haha... another cool idea. And i really liked the explantion.

young paddy1: mmm.. only humanoid because of the hands...?

AndrewLey: I like this... my favourite. Although i've got a large 'nose horn', as you put it... and it doesn't seem to attract the females. Maybe A female 'arse face' would find me attractive...

PHATandy: Nice ideas with the bony head dress and stuff... good WiP. Although whenever i look at it i can see a throne...?

Right... better do some work now...

[shadoman]

Good work from all so far. Duddlebug, that is great. It made me chuckle...

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Emperor Mytzae IX

The kingdom of Mytzae is located high in the clouds of Rulan, a highly gaseous planet found in the Vesurra solar system. Mytzae is ruled by it's floating Emperor Kynja Mytzae IX. His kingdom has been ruled by his family for only a short time though due to the almost suicidal gluttony of its Emperor. Emperor Mytzae's taste for the Flying Pjarra Eel is immense and he will feed upon them as schools of them fly by his slow moving path—grabbing them with his hands and facial tentacles. But this tasty treat comes with a deadly price, for the Pjarra Eel sit very heavy in the multiple stomachs of the Emperor, which in turn weighs him down towards the planet’s surface. Ironically, the Emperor is an easy appetizer for the surface dwelling beasts below known as Rahmoras, whom just have to wait until another Emperor falls into their mouth from above.
http://www.shawnadomanis.com/images/cow/COW15_GluttonousEmperor.jpg

[leckronium]

http://home.comcast.net/~leckronium/onlinestorage/bottlecap.jpg

Lurking over his bottlecap throne, this gluttonous emperor watches impatiently as his servants bring him more riches. Too fat to fly and mutated from over-nourishment, he relies on his servants to maintain this appearance and reputation. He was once a servant like them. Scouring back alley ways and trash bins for those shiny plates of wealth and nourishment. Nothing could make him more happy then to find a secret location that none of the others knew about and to present his findings to the emperor, for he got a small share as a reward and would become one step closer to the throne himself.

Replacing an emperor can be quite difficult. There is often a battle over who gets to take over the pile of caps that make up the throne, usually going to the next largest bottlefly. Emperors usually have an obsession with the caps they hoard. The more caps they possess, the more power they have. This greed often drives them to insanity although it also helps in determining the leader.

Many bottlefly nests are destroyed from bums pilfering the recyclable materials found in these nests. To a bum, finding a nest is like finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Some nests can contain thousands of caps which would bring in a nice chunk of change to buy that next bottle of wine. This wine of course, goes well with the emperor, who tastes a lot like chicken. :^^:

[shadoman]

leckronium - Wow, I really like that. The creature is really clean and nicely illustrated. My only concern is the focal points. My eye keeps wanting to follow away from the creature, down to the right on the path of the bottlecaps. I don't know if maybe blurring out the caps and adding a very blurred object in the distant right background would help? Other than that I have no comments.

[leckronium]

shadoman - Thanks, I'm glad you like it. I think this might be my best entry yet. I know what you're saying about the eye leading you to the edge. I wasn't sure how I wanted to compose the picture but I wanted to give the suggestion of a large pile of caps. I thought of putting a blurred mountain top of caps in that right space but I guess I forgot about it. :^^;: When I get near the end of a pic I get anxious to post it. I'll try it and see how it looks. Thanks :^^:

[Banned_User]

lots of Bug related entries this time.
Unfortunately..i was unable to really submitt a nice piece..as work ate up my time, so I dont know if I want mine to go to Voting.

[look]

Doh, completely forgot the 800x600 part, I somehow read that as a minimum size requirement. >.<

The bug ones are really nice.
*inhales* here goes my entry...

http://lookie.org/sketchpad/050527.jpg
Gluttonous Emperor:
The first scientist discovered the Gluttonous Emperor thought its head has a remarkable resemblance to the old Chinese Emperor, with the tentacle in place of the long beard, and flat out fin as the shoulder piece. Thus the name.

The Gluttonous Emperor is truely a remarkable creature. Its sole purpose is to devour. Ironically, the male half of the species has such weak digesting organ that they can only eat the processed food from the female.

The female Gluttonous Emperor will eat anything in sight, from fish to seaweeds, including their own species and their own eggs. Its enormous stomach cannot hold all the food it eats, and it will tear up. The male will eat the processed food from the females stomach by the cracks. When there is no crack on the stomach, the male will tear open one. The female will die eventually because of the wounds on the stomach.

The male Gluttonous Emperor's job is to gather food with its tail light. They can shoot out milk like fluid with oder to fend off enemies. However the upleasant oder has little effect on the hungry females.

[Ostrander]

http://rhinohidestudios.com/images/ge-2a-flat.jpg

The Myranthereen Gluttonous Emperor is a vile, putrid creature whose sole purpose in life is to gourge itself on the the dreams and nightmares of...doh!, wait a second that was already done...

Lemme start again... ahem... to feed nocturnally on the shadows produced by...venomous birds...wait...sirens? No!! Cloud Dwellers!!! WAIT!! Hmm... I give up. Lava creatures maybe? How about Crit Cows!! Yeah it feeds on the lack of critiques from the almighty Crit Cow!!!! Yeah, Yeah!!

WoooHooo! Thats why this thing is so fat, there's alot of lacking critiques running around for this thing to feast upon. This creature also gets the "Emperor" name from the boney structure that surrounds its mishapen head.

The End :confident

[cakeypigdog]

ok, ive run out of time. so heres mine.

great entries everyone!

http://cakeypigdog.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/glutton1r.jpg

description:

The cukoo horriblis is a distant relation to the cukoo bird genus. At some distant point in the past the birds genes were crossed with that of a toads. throw in a bit of random mutation and a few generations later this nasty little critter is born.

The cukoo horriblis acts in a similar way to its ancestors but has developed the power of mind control. The hatchling first pushes the other eggs and chicks from the nest to their deaths. It is fed by its new aggreived mother and father for the first few days. As it grows it develops a sinister mind control capability. It alters the intention of surrounding creatures: diverting them to feed the cukoo horriblis instead of their own young. As the creature grows larger it is able to affect a bigger area. soon it has a whole community of creatures feeding it while their own young starve to death. It has been known to entirely destroy whole areas of woodland through its gluttonous habits.

[trev]

Hope I havent missed the deadline, only clocked the competition on thursday so this is a biiiit rushed.

http://www.trevorwhite.co.uk/glutenous emperor.jpg

Know as the Glutenous Emperor for its voracious appetite and its evtravagent colouration this beast is native to parts of the desert regions on the planet of Seareen. Agressive and very teritorial, it lives in the few constant water sources: both to catch its prey - anything which comes close enough - and to help support its vast bulk, as a result it is a good swimer and can hold its breath for ten minutes at a time. However, instead of waiting the shallows like a crocodile it can also take to the land and chase down its victims thanks to two very powerful arms, there are reports of it hurling itself through the air and using its vast bulk to crush its prey!...failing that it has sharp talons and mouth full of razor sharp teeth. Another trait this creature has evolved is extraordinarily strong stomach acid enabling it to digest bone and cartilge with ease.

[End Hits]

Bit of a late entry, sorry.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/marginwalker/tree.jpg

It sucked the life out of the soil, the trees, and the sky.

[Carnifex]

ok,damn,can't participate this time because i didn't see the deadline correct.
here's what i'd have done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/carnifex_19/gluttonous_emperor_wip1.jpg
good entries everyone,sorry i didn't make it.

[PHATandy]

Might be a bit late, but ive done a redo of mine in PhotoShop, just a rough one. If thts not allowed thats cool, and Fozzy i give you the honor of choosing which one goes in, you artistic eye will judge better then me.

Thanks again, no problem if it aint allowed.. :D.

Andy.

[Ostrander]

We voting sometime soon? I mean I could be wrong but seems to me that we should be on to the next round, no? Just curious.

[Fozzybar]

Vote!

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=491694