Thunderdome Round 3: UNLEASH THE DOGS OF WAR!!! CONCEPTART.ORG vs. EATPOO.COM

[Jason Manley]

While we await the announcement of the winner of round 2, we thought it would be a great time to announce the third round of THUNDERDOME!!!!

We will be challenging the artists from eatpoo.com to come over here and show us what they got!! Can the home team defend the championship and keep the THUNDERDOME prize here?!!

the contest title is UNLEASH THE DOGS OF WAR!!

The invaders will be coming...we must create a group of MONSTER CREATIONS to defend conceptart.org in thunderdome!!

The eatpoo forum members will be bringing their monsters to defeat us all. We must defend. We must have our champion at the TOP of the pile of destruction!!

1 the monster can be of any shape, size, color, robotic, mutant etc...

2 the monster must fit into the post apocolyptic world of thunderdome.

3 the monster must be built or created in some way as there is only a little over a month to prepare! What kind of monster could be created in the post apocolyptic world in such a short time??

that is the challenge.

contest entries must be in color. Judging will take place by a panel of outside judges. Both technique and idea will be weighed in order to determine the victor!

Do you have what it takes to defend THUNDERDOME?!!!

we hope so.

god save us all!


CONTEST DEADLINE is OCTOBER 15th 2002

artists may submit more than one entry.

A great prize will be announced!!! Keep a lookout for prize announcement in the near future!

[Deth Jester]

Hell Yeah!

Eatpoo is goin down!!!!

[Makafui]

Im torn in the middle im an artist for both sides but wherever i decide to shoot from im bringin the heat ¬_¬

[Makafui]

im going with age eatpoo is for me :)

[Jason Manley]

you will be destroyed!

haha


j

[Makafui]

Bring it! no using superpowered pros ¬_¬ seegemiller is not allowed!

[tarwater]

I started on a drawing a little late last night, however, most of the work is going to be done today and on. The 3rd round of the thunderdome started today. I started drawing it because I was inspired by the entries of round 2. Would it be alright to enter it, or would it be unfair, because I had a few hours of a head start. It fits in the post apocolyptic world of thunderdome, since the thunderdome inspired me to begin the drawing in the first place. What do you think?

[Avetice]

hmmm, let me see some of your other art first, then we will see if your allowed to represent conceptart or not...:D

[Breadshoes]

Can humans be included in the drawing? Riding the monster or otherwise controlling it, perhaps?

[Jason Manley]

Yes...there can be riders or drivers


avetice is the enemy now..haha...no listening to him.


there are pros on eatpoo...there are pros on conceptart.org.


everyone is welcome to submit.



j

tarwater...as long as the image fits the rules you may use it if you are still working on it. no old images please...this is new stuff only!

[tarwater]

I have a few drawings posted on a thread..
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51

[JoshuaTheJames]

GUYS LETS GO FOR SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY ...

I KNOW EVERYONE CAN DO IT ...

LETS NOT DO THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD!

-Joshua

[mcotie]

Eatpoo....They are, so therefore they will.


muuhaaahaaaa muuhaahaaa

[keyth]

this is hilarious. jason, we need team t-shirts!

how can somebody support a site titled eatpoo. HA HA.
just kidding i've been there. but this place is SOOO much better. here we go again!!!

[Jason Manley]

a question about what kind of monsters and restrictions there are was posted on eatpoo....

here is the answer

in the post apocolyptic world anything goes....the only thing is that it needs to be a created monster...whether that be a monster created from nuclear mutated elephant parts or one made of machinery...it has to be built in thirty days...whether it be built by the blacksmith or the mad scientist or roundeyes stinky feet its up to you....


come on guys and gals...we need ya for this!! be creative.

send me sketches if you want a crit before the image final...I will take a look and get you some input.

if you are on eatpoos side...get your input from roundeye and the eatpoo cronies. haha...it's site vs site here!!



j

[Nivbed]

Heh, this is going to be fun.


:cool:

[Romus]

:evilbat:

[sharperimage]

I just gotta say, I think eatpoo.com will win.

Nivbed, Roundeye, Isric, Brian Despain, and sooooo many others.

Not to say that this board doesn't have a plethora as well, but my vote is with the poo-eaters. If Jason competes though (or Android), my opinion may change. :)

[Ryaken]

OH SH#T!!! It's on like a CHICKEN THONG now!!

No more F'ing around.. Let's do it BOYS!


Oh! And, hey, Sharperimage.. Don't let those eatpoo guys get to ya... You don't know of the undiscovered gold nuggets nested here at concept.org.. This will be a battle they won't forget.:mischief:

[Oblio]

Aaaarghhh... :realmad: :rambo: :machinegu :chainsaw:
I'm not going to compete (unless it counts who has the bigger army and then I'll take a polaroid and do my mean face :evilbat: ) but i will sacrifice a dog every day for the Conceptart team. :eek:
Hear me now, ConceptArtists (org) - you better think wild for 30 days and kick those Eaters (com).

Oblio
May the best get the beer :chug:

[Fozzybar]

I know, my work is just another amusing entry in comparison with the killerpics of the rest. But it's fun...and i'll try to improve...

One question, Jason: What about weapons? Are they allowed? No, not in our fight vs eatpoo :)), i mean the monster, can he have some weapons?

Great idea btw. After Round 2 I thought of a monster or alien as Round 3 subject...

[Makafui]

I guess its fair so...bring it on concept boys...us at eatpoo will wipe the floor with u :P

[Ryaken]

Hey, Makafui... let me ask you something.. Have you ever had your ASS handed to you? Cause that's what is going to happen Eatpoo come Sept 30th..:mischief:

[Loga4]

Jo-Jo!!!
Let`s make that etapoo guys smaller then ants:)
They got good artists but big mouth,also.
This provocation can`t be toleranted(hope I spell this right)
Lets kick some vain ass:))

[TJ Verhagen]

Oh YEAH! This means WAR!

I'm in for real thistime! (yeah, I missed the deadline of the last round of Thunderdome... RealLife™ interveined:\ )

Btw... will the judges consist of ConceptArt.org and EatPoo.com members alike or just the usual judges?



may the best army win!

- Makafui... ¬_¬ I'll cya in the ring my friend:D

[gekitsu]

oooh, how this hurts :( i'm torn in the middle!

i love eatpoo for the great athmosphere and respectless jokes (and the twisted art of course) but i also love this place here. so much to learn, so great artists... professionals caring for the noobs.

ARGH!

but...
i guess.. the half of conceptart.org is the half with my right(=drawing) hand :)

[Oblio]

Roundeye - as a non-competitor I have to say that your post is the most pathetic, arrogant and vain post that Conceptart.org has ever witness.
I shouldn't even bother to write to you but as you are a first-timer here, I welcome you, hoping to see some of your art here (YES, YOURS) and then to politely ask:

DON'T BRING YOUR USUAL POO HERE. SELL IT SOMEWERE ELSE.
Ok?

And this is the first offering to the war!
http://www.naturewatch.org/images/bucharest.jpg
:firedevil

Oblio

[JoshuaTheJames]

lol

[Jason Manley]

roundeye is a very competitive. time to put the money where the mouth is. get to work kid...yer side will need your help.

androids definition of ringers sounds very appropriate.

artists that join all the way to the finish date may submit...same goes for roundeyes eatpoo group. Im not discriminating against anyone.

If things get dirty, I shall petion the release of the right hand of general android to cast upon the eatpoo heretics. for now we are fighting in the style of 16th century europe...the officers stay behind and direct their powerful forces.


all good fun...haha...you are hilarious...all of you.


j

[Oblio]

One of the first? My bad then. I didn't notice you though :confused: :rolleyes:
As for the rest of the story (and I'm not just taking side of Mr. Manley) *loosens collar* I don't know how things are overthere but when we were gathering our forces here (in every kid's game and later) the teams were open until the end.
Anyway, It's just a contest, and it is in the supreme benefit of ART. (of concept art - just a resemblance).
Seems though that the marketing fairy and the troublehood of matureness have paid you too much visits and.. stiff you have become.
Publicity stunt? You'd gain too much if it were. So, friend, keep your insults and sharpen the wacom pencil.
Bring it on! I'll stop here as too hilarious I don't plan to be.

Oblio
P.S. - Pardon my english
:(

[mcotie]

They came in numbers, vast and fierce , the Eaters of Poo.
They stormed over the wasted horizon, seeking to smite the Conceptartorgians.
Look upon their ranks, see the armored clad mutants, the war-clad Oliphants, and Generals of obscene proportions.
Their haste and rage was all for naught.
The only blood they will taste on this day is that of their own spilt from their poo stained mouths.
For this day, the sky will burn red with victory, as the Conceptartorgians cleave a path of destruction that will shake the heavens.

Hail the Conceptartorgians!


Mitch Cotie

[Android]

Roundeye. Jasons efforts to "lure" pro's to the forums to see all of our work (including yours) IS what makes him an upstanding member of the artistic community .

[JoshuaTheJames]

THIS IS DOPE!

[Cgkoko]

:evilbat:
Ve Vill Destroy you all!
Ve vill drink your blood and eat your poo litle concept artists

[Skello]

AAAAAArGH!!!!...i wish i had a wacom and some time so i can join the team.
Lucky for those poo eaters!!
Nevertheless the shall be smote pink and blue!!! ...:bash:
Muahahahahahahahahahha!!!!

[Jason Manley]

We have extended the contest deadline to october 15th 2002 due to a contest overlap with eatpoo...this should be more than enough time for everyone to compete.

this is a friendly competition....trashtalk if you want...but please keep it somewhat clean. lol

it will be best if we all get some great pieces out of it and learn a bunch too!




j

[JoshuaTheJames]

he seems like a cool guy...



this is gonna be a great battle ...something fun for all!

and good luck to all ..........

[Makafui]

well i did my bit to heat it up now this is the atmostphere a contest should be in ¬_¬ were not arrogant actually both of u guys are cool ive been a member on both for a while just eatpoo longer so i didnt desert u jason its just feeb and roundeye are mah homies :) they help me out alot more :) so...dont be mad when we hand u back ur artistic teeth in a trash bag :)

[stalecracker]

Hey, he quit first.

Big baby.

I was about to unleash my "DOG of War"

I'll save it until October 15th HOOWAH

[Nordstrand, T]

Seriously folks... there is not way conceptartists can loose this slaughter. Eatpoo'ers are clearly too easily distracted:



:fruit::fruit::fruit::bootyshak:fruit::fruit:


Go get some, ringers ;)

[Fozzybar]

15th october??? :eek:

Oh man, so let's make another contest til then ...or conceptart.org-monster-army will bruise eatpoo's works while spreading on the jury-table in october...

This is a lot of time...

...maybe the reason is, because eaties generally need more time...

H-E-L-L-O E-A-T-P-O-O-S, Y-O-U H-A-V-E 2 M-O-N-T-H-S P-R-E-P-A-R-I-N-G Y-O-U-R R-E-L-A-T-I-V-E-S F-O-R T-H-E D-A-Y Y-O-U-R G-O-I-N-G I-N-S-A-N-E ! (this was slow motion - only for you eatpoos!)

[Satan]

Moving smilies, cool :p

[Romus]

Babies... when this is done... y'all be wearing gold plated diapers.

[Avetice]

so gold plated diapers are the prize then?...

[N D Hill]

I feel torn... Oh what the hell. Conceptart.org has better emoticons. I'm in.

[Fozzybar]

Ok, Avetice, maybe your english is better over there at "eat at poo's", but conceptart.orgs have what it takes for making amazing stuff like terrific monsters kicking your poopoo-monsters butts...:bootyshak

[Makafui]

o so its like that, ive been here for time...and u turn ur back on me and diss me like that...fineeeeeeeeeeeee lol im just playin u know i love yall...i love this atmostphere to :bash:

[brokencow]

man this is sad...cause i'm a poo eater and a conceptartist guy.

I'm going to the same college as Android and a few others here and it's hard to go against eatpoo cause i really like some of the artists that post there. I like both of these forums the same...but i don't want to go against andrew or roundeye. I will tell you...i'm leading towards eatpoo more and more because of the way you guys make them sound and because all the trash talking it doesn't make this place look very friendly. This place seems to be kinda uptight. Whereas eatpoo is very layed back. That's what i like about it. But this place has a few of very good artist. I'm sure there are other people who are in the same position as me. But then again you have to think...it's only a god damn forum. The only thing that really matters is the art.

I may or may not enter because of this brawl. But i've been an eatpoo member longer then i have been here.
thanks

[Nordstrand, T]

Maybe those who cannot decide upon side should enter with images of spectators, cheerleaders, flying camera crew, judges, medics, etc. That way, one can at least be actively passive. Hm?

[Android]

Every body thats on the line needs to make a decision and get drawing. this contest is about drawing monsters not pledging aligance. trash talking is part of the fun, but we wouldant have challenged the poo eaters if we didnt respect them. I like to joke, but they have a ton of super talented artists and thats no joke. dont get too caught up on sides cuz one of the goals this cross forum contest is to bring all of us artists closer together in the end. remember as long as you are on the side of art than you are allready on my side as far as Im concerned.

Brokencow- the choice is yours, just go with your gut man. BTW thank you for starting the sp thread on the poo forums. Im not going to hold it agianst you if you side with them.

ok, that being said.

bring on the shit-storm poopheads, IM READY FOR YOU!!!:realmad:

[JoshuaTheJames]

"ROMA VICTOR!!" -Maximus Desimus Maridious

[TJ Verhagen]

Amen to that, Android!

[sharperimage]

The same college as Android? Wait a sec, how old are you Andrew?

I've always assumed you were like 30+ just because of the quality of your work and your mature and reflective philosophies on art. Am I totally off base? :P

[Android]

30+ ! im flatered, Thanks Sharper image, actually Ive been in this body since late 1977. so that makes me 24, your only 6+ years off base.

[rubygenesis]

are there any other gurls in here or wut?!?:confused:

[rubygenesis]

ok so im new, could i get a quick run down on this post apocolyptic world of thunderdome so my piece will get excepted in at the very least.:) kewlness

[madster]

Um, excuse me, but I just went through every one of the posts so far for this thread, and although there is certainly one heck of a lot of talk, there is very little in the way of substance...
Could someone give me the link to the poo eaters so I can see if they at least have some entries?

I'll try to come up with an image, but truth be known I think I suck at drawing, but this sounds SO kewl...

C'mon all you guys, put up or "shut up"....hahahaha. Seriously, the poo guys will win with sheer production if all you guys have is yak yak....

[Jason Manley]

there is no production as of yet...the contest was announced yesterday...eatpoo.com has just as much talk going on.

but you make a great point...get to work guys...haha

have fun too...


j

[Avetice]

no no, dont listen to jason he doesnt know what he is saying....talk all you want....it...um.... just keep talking its good for your art trust me :rolleyes:

[sharperimage]

Wow, that's only a year older than I. You're very insightful for such a young age, Andrew.

Your dedication to your art certainly shines in the finished works. You look older than 24 as well from your portraits. You must get that a lot, no?

Anyway, you're very welcome. I assume too much. Jason is probably like 18 or something. :)

[Jason Manley]

hey all...I deleted some of the threads cloggin this area up..mostly just trash talking...please dont take offense if something you wrote was deleted...tis better to spend your time drawing then squabbling anyhow.

good luck all.

j

[Fozzybar]

You're complaining about the trash-talk, but nobody gave me an answer to my question...

May the monsters have weapons?

rubygenesis asked about the post apocalyptic thunderdome theme...i am curious about that too...I mean in round 2 all the works could be in any era...maybe this is the aim of thunderdome?

[Nordstrand, T]

The way I understand it, the competition is about monsters. If it has a decorative weapon/armour/rider, that's probably fine, but it won't matter if the monster isn't scary/tough enough. Just do something cool!

The thunderdome concept is based on the Mad Max films (starring Mel Gibson), don't remember which - go rent! It's post-apocalyptic, so that means it's placed after a terrible world war has made resources sparse, and the world is devastated. It's gritty, hard, and it's mostly every man for himself. That's all I know, really, somebody want to elaborate?

[Oblio]

I'm not an expert but I somewhat live in such a country ;)
So what I wanna say is not to focus on a known image.
Post-apocalyptic is basically anything - As general(common) characteristic is about a hostile universe and has a crushed or terrible oppressive dominant civilization, it's about fighting for survival, lack of resources, mutations, twisted history, etc.
Think Fallout(game), Water world, War zone (game) or Joules Verne meets Alien. :doh:
One of the great games I've ever seen in production (never released) was called "Dreadnought" (I think) developed by a dead studio (axel tribe) in with al the earth was under Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain (in war with rebels I think) and they were just colonizing the Mars planet without knowledge of electricity (steam sand cruisers and so on).
So don't think MadMax unless it fits your vision. Your monster could be a little old kid with mutated horns and venom and wearing a beautiful 30's girl hat connected to a cooler because it lives mostly in the stomach of a bigger non-carnivore monster or I don't know, ANYTHING! Think wild... think post-apocalyptic... or just draw and call it so.
It's about monsters that will fascinate us! ;)

Oblio

[rubygenesis]

Alrighty thanks guys, off to the drawing board! :cyclops::dead: :chicken:

[taff]

Hmmm, I am not very happy about this 2-boards-contest, but I will join in, I guess.

[nardfrog]

Hey, you guys 'member that old thunderdome second round compitition? I wounder who ever won that. That takes me way back! Haha.. (laughing immediotly subsides and turns to angry face):grumble:

[rubygenesis]

:cuddle:

[Makafui]

give conceptart on thing got some good emoticons :beer:

[espaki]

yeah...i'm curious about the round 2 results as well...:barfing:

-Nate

[madster]

:chug:
To ALL the contestants on both boards, let the games begin!!!!

Thanks to all who helped explain the idea.
I think I may have an edge on all of you tho' since my drawing is SO bad, I can make my own mother look like a monster, without even trying, and she's pretty good lookin' in real life!!!!:p :p :p

So, a couple more moronic questions from my end...

First, how do we display our talents on this forum?
Second, will there be a cross link between the two forums so we can jump back and forth to compare art?

This just sounds too kewl to be true...
Hasn't anyone finished a monster yet? Any roughs?

Do political characatures (sp?) count? I think Traficant might make a good monster...or maybe his toupee...

[mcotie]

Ok since no one else is posting images. Here is the first dog of War. This is the Mutt-Man from my Thundedome rd. 2. He was the sidekick to the torch bitch. Well I made up some more concepts for him because I am going to model him. I don't know if he is good material for the WAR ( maybe a whole pack of em). Let me know if I should go bigger.

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/mutt1col3.jpg

[Android]

the first drops of blood have been shed as they drip from the hungry fangs of mcotie's dog of war. thank you for leading the way Mcotie, we knew we could count on you.
whos next?

[Fozzybar]

Did I get something wrong?

Shall we draw mutant dogs? I thought we can draw just every monster....

I am confused...

But mcotie, if you want to use your dog for Round 3 you shouldn't post it here...nevertheless it's amazing, disgusting though, but still amazing :)

[Oblio]

That is a nice start mkotie (war dog) - and it sets good standards for the rest.
You soldiers of the new army have to do better than that!
:jump1:

Geronimoooo...

Oblio

EDIT - Hey, Fozzy - you can make an Mutant Elmo. If it turns out mean - it's good ;)

Should the pictures be uploaded when ready or submited to Jason as before (no i'm not going to join unles I go in the enemy side since I can't draw :) but i'm asking for the rest of the horde)

[Cannibal80]

Hey since this is about post-apocalyptic, you should check out the RPG (not a computergame) called HóL (Human Occupied Landfill).

It's frikkin' hilarious! Especially the first (and to my knowledge only) supplement: "Buttery Wholesomeness"

Both rulebooks are completely handwritten and the art is gritty and kewl.

Die EATPOOO die! :bash:

(What could be created in a month? I should check beneath my bed...)

[Nordstrand, T]

Good start, that is. Will check the dishes today for some monster inspiration. God bless me.

[mcotie]

I'm posting some more works in prgress of the Mutt. Remember its a W I P till d-day so input from fellow troops is welcomed. Here's an early sketch. and Not necessarily part of the competition, my 3D model of it i'm currently working on.

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/mutt.jpg

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/muttshot5.jpg

[espaki]

Excellent! The 3d is coming along well. what software/modeling method are you using?

-Nate

[mcotie]

thanx Espaki

I'm using 3ds max 4.2, editable polys, using the Nuclear Modeling interface. I start with basic shapes and extrude edges and faces. low poly count modeling with a meshsmooth modifier.

Mitch

[Android]

looking great, after seeing it in a front view I would encourage you to add some more aysemetricial elements to it. it will make it look more piced together and give it some aditional thunderdome style pionts. I would like seeing its shoulder blades arched back and more predominant. also the pose could be improved if one of the front legs was juting out more in perspective closer to the viewer to give the concept more 3 dimensional space,
the model looks great I cant wait to see where you will take it. I think a creature like this shoud definately fight in packs , they will make a strong first strike force for our infantry ground troops.

Mcotie has the ground troops started , if anyone needs some ideas we could use some airbourne support as well as water based naval monsters. to broden our attack range.

[espaki]

mcotie: I am familiar with 3d studio max, but what is the nuclear modeling interface?

administrators: if we are going to do the "work in progress" style competitions, it might be a good idea to make a thread for it. I am very fond of the cgtalk.com challenges because you can learn a lot when you can see the steps someone takes to make their finished piece. Just a suggestion. I wonder how everyone else feels about this?

-Nate

[tarwater]

I also think we should start posting progress, instead of just the finished versions at the end. That way we see how everything was created and thus, learn more. Is that cool with the people runnin' the show?:huh: :)

[rubygenesis]

thats a good idea tarwater. :yummy:

[mcotie]

Thanks Andrew,

I'll keep those things in mind when working on future illustrations of the mutts.Today I whipped out a quick sketch of a small pack of mutant mutts. c'mon ladies and germs let's start seeing some art in here. I know there's some stuff being cranked out on a daily basis!!!

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/wardogs.jpg

[nil]

wow...cool:cool:

[tarwater]

Killer mitch.:machinegu I'll see if I can whip up some kind of preliminary war dog tonight.

[tarwater]

Here's what I drew last night. It's Android's airbourne support,
the fire breathin', smoke blowin', napalm spewing SkYcLoPs.:cyclops: :firedevil
http://www.liquid2k.com/tarwater/skyclops.jpg

[nil]

that is awesome tarwater:D i am looking forward to this competition so much, an even more to when ill have enough time to start on it myself :rolleyes:

[Grooveholmes]

That's great Tarwater.. He needs some type of armor or something for that eye! ...But I guess he'll be attacking from above anyway.

[mcotie]

Man that is some of the nicest pencil work I've seen from you. Love it. What happened to the Girl-rilla?

I had a premonition today. I changed up the Mutt. I figured a pack of these just aren't fast enough with human legs; I had to juice em up. Feedback!

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/newmutt.jpg

[Android]

great conceptual stradegy . I think you could have executed it more sucesfully. integrate the mut elements and motercycle elements more efficantly. the human legs were cool but it would slow it down, but I liked the human legs because it expressed a sense of twisted desperation. and it perpetuated one of the guidelines and challenges Jason specified.of creating monsters that were assemled under short time restraints.. as far as # of wheels , I would use one, or three, 2 is predictable. de-emphasize the bike aspects and concentrate the animal anatomy, making that the focus and using the bike mechanics to complliment it not overpower it. one possibility is taking the sketch you posted earlier( the one with the misfit snoopy) .add one big back wheel to the unfinished pelvis of the hound number one thats in the foreground, this will be a quick way to test a possoble variation, then add subtle non moterized small subtle wheels to its wrists area so it more beliveable. these are just sugestion ..keep it up soilder.

you have some great ideas Mcotie and alot of motivation, im impressed

Tarwater, great drawing, it would make an awesome videogame enemy, thanks for the air support,

wheres my navy?:)

[mcotie]

You couldn't have replied at a better time. I was sweating over my wacom trying to make this work. Your suggestions are priceless.
I think this thunderdome stuff and this whole forum is a great idea. I'm a student, so getting input on my work and improving is my whole purpose in life as an artist right now. sooo.....

I'm going to use this advice and see what I can come up with.

Thanx

[mcotie]

ok I just completed this one. I worked with a bunch of sketches trying to work the motorized idea. I'm not totally satisfied with it just yet. but in doing that, I ran with a sketch and in using the old reliable idea, made this scene up of the first dogs running out on to the battlefield.

they look pretty fast, yeah?

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/firstcharge2.jpg

[Cgkoko]

Holy poo!That IS Spooky!Nice concept,I'm starting to wonder if anyone is working on their dogs of war at eatpoo.I've just started thinking about mine......:trippy:

[Clodhopper]

I love the human legs on the "war dog", it seems plenty fast in that last sketch, and maybe it could stand upright? anyway, this is awsome stuff. very inspiring. keep it up and I hope more people post sketches like you do

[nil]

id stick with the all-fours thing, i mean look at the structure of the dogs back/neck, it wouldnt be able to stand on its two back legs without looking atraight uop at the sky...
mcotie, thses are just getting better and better, but the dog in the background of that latest one...he looks like hes trotting...he doesnt look fierce enough. i think his chin is up too much. but hey, as usual i am nit picking a great painting. nice stuff,man.

[Clodhopper]

hey, I'm gonna need a lot of crits on this one....does the banner idea suck? :confused: and btw, I got plans fer a huge anchor to be on the end of the chain...pls crit me :dork:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/clodhopper/minotuar.txt pardon my NOOBliness.

[mcotie]

I like the idea of this concept. A banner is a good idea but I think a logo in the fashion of a coat of arms, or like the Roman legions had different symbols to identify regiments and such. Kinda like the White hand symbol of the Uruk-Hai in Lord of the Rings. I would say use a symbol like this rather than a deliberate typographic message. As far as anotomy or creature stuff, what I do is research stuff... alot. Since I based mine on dogs, humans, and mechanics, I used reference examples of all of these. My Son and I spent two hours in the school library the other day finding cool dog pictures to use as reference, to me this part can be the most fun. I think it'll make your piece stronger. Since you have some more time to prep, do this, I think you'll be pleased. I'm goig to do more research for mine since my back dog looks too Lassie, not enough Cujo. ;)

Mitch

[rubygenesis]

ok i was up soo late lastnight, and i doodled this. wut do u think guys? too much crack for breakfast?:D

http://www.infinitejackass.com/rubygen/thundershark.jpg

[Fozzybar]

It looks a little upset :)

And now there is our water unit!!!

[espaki]

I got some water support comin' too...as soon as I can get to a scanner...


-Nate

[rubygenesis]

Had some spare time at work so I gave it some color...


http://www.infinitejackass.com/rubygen/thundershark3.jpg

[Clodhopper]

heres the new improved edition. Personally i think an anchor would make a hell of a billy club. and seriosly, pls crit this. and post more of yer own sketches
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/clodhopper/min2.txt

[Oblio]

NOT FOR CONTEST!
I've started to play around with a drawing this morning and... well if anyone likes this and want to make a real picture out of it I'll be very happy.
The initial design was far more complex but I went for a light version to see if I can at least make something understandable.

http://users.pcnet.ro/oblio8/diesel.jpg

Oblio
(this is actually my first drawing witch is not a study - so C&C are very welcomed)

[Clodhopper]

did it get a chunck bit out of its ass by a shark or something? and the tail is hanging on by a few sinews? needs more blood. I like the concept but i think it could use more complexity, especially the propeller and maybe add more machine parts.

[Loga4]

Hi,Rubygenesis
Your Shark-ero-crab-oid(if I can call it like that)
is best water unit we got so far:)
Oblio,your piece is very interesting,too,but I must agree
with Clodhopper,its tail looks like it will drop off,thereupon
bite of something( Shark-ero-crab-oid`s maybe:)))
Our monster must not look like it`s collapsing before
fight with eatpoos monsters!Otherwise,it looks good.
Sorry if we misunderstand you:)

[killing.people]

:argue:

why am i always the last to hear about this shit?

best of luck to both forums.

may the best forum win
:barf: sorry guys i'll post some killing.

-killing.concepts

[Mr.Magnetichead]

All this shit is fantastic:D

[Android]

Rubygenesis- what a terifying creature. so far its is a very good start and you have a solid conceptual idea to build upon. a few sugestions- try and develop your textures on this one, the colors so far are nice but somewhat timid. bring out some natural oranic paterns in the skin, make the shark skin feel oily and wet , and the shell rough and hard, .pay close attention to the trasition points between the shark skin and the crab shill when applting thexture. use refrence for the textures photos of the web are fast and efficiant, but even better would be is you aquired a real lobster or crab shell, they should not be too dificult to find and you woud get some good life painting practice in too. its chest is becoming a focal point in the composition- one anatomy note is that the humas type muscles of the chest could be more dynamic, the two pectoral muscles are too similar in shape, the arm on the right side is raised and judging by the size of the claw it is extremely heavy, this will have an impact on the muscle tendons, they will be more contracted and there should me more stress emphasized on those arm muscles as well, this will give that arm more weight. try applwing some washes of color and then bring out the highlights, if you look at the legs on the left site they all occoupy the same plane spatialy, more clawe and contrast and color varaition will give them seperate amounts of depth. after a few washes use opaque colors on top of that,. there is so much potential in this one so far good luck and thank you for developing it for us.

Clodhopper, your monster lacks balance and , without balance a monster becomes weeker and more vunerable. spread the legs out more, because you have added such a heavy mele weapon you will need to compensate balance with the pose.

Oblio- very interesting idea. I have a new stradegy (assignment) for you to try. go on the web and find lots of photos of whales, whale skeletons, machine/propeler type engines, black smoke and under waterwater pictures. look for pictures that match the angles you have in your concept. now in phososhop start cuting pasting transforming and combining thes pices on top of your concept, dont be afraid to cover every pixel with a photo. them blend these elements together . photo manipulation is a very imposrant aspect of being a well-rounded concept artist.


side notes- what is the weather like in your apocoliptial world, have the oceans drid up, or has the earth flooded agian, is it a freezing nuclaer winter with out sunlight, or has the ozone disolved and the sun rays burn the ground, thinking about the environment first and making a creature that inhabits it will make your concept richer and help you make more decisions and create new ideas to build upon

good luck

[gekitsu]

hi there.

i started collecting ideas some time ago and just started to sketch one of them for reinfocement.

http://www.polycount.com/cottages/gekitsu/pimp/tdome_sketch.png

thoughts:
i don't think a creature will be built from scratch under the postapocalyptic circumstances. i think it's the easier way to take something already existing and tweak it further until it matche your needs. i'm going for a very patchworky look with my ideas: basic animal plastered with improvements and such.
second important aspect: take the best suited basic animal so you have to tweak the least possible amount.
my basic animal is a wolverine (lat.: gulo gulo), as it is a compact, powerful and overly fierce creature. (there are records of wolverines killing prey that is more than 4 times larger than they are.)
tweakings i thought of as far: genetically enlarging to a shoulder height of 1m - 1.5m.

removing fur from head and neck like vultures are.

putting the breathing system away from head. the head is most exposed and most usd tool in melee and often buried inside enemy monster flesh. no breathing, no good. the heavy breathing tube on the animals back was done with huge air inlets of american sports cars in mind :) (the head is shifted to the right as the breathing tube takes lots of place on the left side - little bit asymmetry)
also, i thought of some enhancements on legs, claws and head for higher speed and melee effectiveness. the ifrst thing i did was replacing the eyes with lens systems -> less vulnerable, probably more advanced.

other thoughts were:
-adding a second creature to it, so they form a symbiosis. something that looks like tentacles etc...
-adding mechanical weaponry like hiding a machinegun in a ww2-airplane-like manner in the creature.

this one was thought to accompany mitch's war dog in the first row of speedy yet fierce creatures hunting down the poo-monsters.

other ideas i had in mind for monsters were:
octopusses as basic animals
completely structureless monsters (gel-like) that just cover enemy creatures and digest them. (immune to melee and particle weapons)

any further suggestions? i'm not overmushily happy with the concept... it's still lacking a lot of elements and strangeness.

[Clodhopper]

Android- yer absolutly right. I'm gonna work on my pose. But I was wondering about the feet. I wanted to keep the minotuar motif, so I wanna keep the hooves. but i guess theres an evolutionary reason why there arn't any bipeds with hooves. -'cept maybe Roundeye's mom.

Gekitsu- I think that was an awsome post. I like concepts with that kind of thought put into them. but may i suggest foam at the mouth? and the legs looks like Bear's legs, not a creature of speed. but a bear is a good "basic animal" too.

I wanted to think of mine as a mutatated Bull. Its a domesticated creature from the Mad max Wasteland. In this time of conflict, the locals built the armor and weapon out of scrap materials recovered from the old society. I wanted to stay more along the lines of the Mad max movies...but no one else seems to be.:mad:

[killing.people]

moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)
here is a concept i thought-up.
*much inspired by el coro's sketchbook works and rubygenesis odd mix of animals. i just kinda started drawing, keeping in mind it was for the contest. i just happened to run out of space.

sorry for the quality of the jpeg file, all i had to aquire an image with was the digital camera at work - until tuesday - and i wanted to post it, i grew anxious to see what you guys would think.

*edit*
i think my concept needs to be communicated more, it is the first of more sketches. (not to mention it is a low quality picture) you might be able to tell that i struggled to communicate my day dream:mad:

while creating it, i was thinking it would be cool to have it be organic armor that is worn and controled through a joystick > to a computer > to the beast's brain - something like perverting advanced prosthetic technology.

so its features:
the rib cage from its chest fuses with its sternum, the whole idea there was for an entry - protected with jaws that would chew on an intruder but safely swallow a pilot, allowing her to climb inside and sit at the controls.
for every pair of arms, it has a pair of pectoral muscles, colar bones, and whatever else is required for arm movement; like the back musles i dont know. i cant think of a reason to have more than two sholder blades -- extra protection -- what are they for anyhow?
i think the head will be the pilots, like wearing a carcas for protection, it feels no pain.
it has horse backlegs like a .. a uh .. fetch! those .. things - there is a little sillouette of it. (i was going to give it wings, or maybe antlers .. maybe neither! *shrug*

so tell me what you think and i will throw some more up soon.

[killing.people]

moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)
i will get these pieces scanned and posted shortly. more scetches to come!
same as before, second concpet sketch. this sketch shows the pilot's head poking out between the beasts (properly named) collar bones, i chose to draw antlers all over, he has little flat moose antlers that are connected to an extra collar bone stacked on a 'normal' one. they were designed to protect the pilot's face. then of course the large deer antler lookig ones jeting out from behind him protecting his back and from above. the downside is that they are so big and bulky they could restrict movement through crappy terrain, say like a thick forest. it has six nipples, it has two extra nipples above to the top two, you know how i like nipples .. well all the people that have been here a while. i met a guy that had a third one and it scarred me. it was creepy. you cant help but think it gives extra powers, so the more nipple the better, eatpoo will put up great resitance, and attack.

-killing.sixth.nipple

[killing.people]

moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)

[killing.people]

moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)

[rubygenesis]

Euw dude thats sick! i Luv it! :D i did a centaur monster type too but i tossed the idea, now im thinking its not half bad. anyways keep it up looks kickin!

[killing.people]

how about sabatoge?

"eatpoo" right?

i was thinking of a monseter that was disquised as terrain or burrowed into a cliff or the ground and had a tree like arm that looks like a tree branch or root or something and a dirty diaper suspended from its branches, that suspend above a strike point or a maw that will chew or maybe a entrance to a vat of stomach acid. can that be made under a month?

how long would it take to train puppies to pull pins of hidden genades after the eatpoo army comes up to pet them?

our we could ship them a box of handguns labled forks or eyedrops in hopes they would just shoot themselves.
just throwing up ideas - i know . . .

-killing.brain

[nil]

killing.people - i love the idea of organic armor, maybe Android or Jason can be at the helm? :D the scans look a whole lot nicer than the digital photos, im looking forward to seeing it developed further :)

oblio - why not for the competition? i bet you could do a kickass painting of that. the more monsters the better!

well, here are a couple of things ive been messing around with: a zombie and spider thing (inspired by a dream i had about huge herds of spiders crawling over me...hrm...)

http://nil1.netfirms.com/zombie-web.jpg

sorry, the quality on that aint so good...and the second:

http://nil1.netfirms.com/spider.gif

yeah, bad scan and very early sketchyness... anyways, thought id try and get some c&c before i go any further.

the spiders are sposed to hunt in groups, taking down their prey by climbing over them and slicing em up good, assisted by whatever nasty concoctions are in the syringes...:D :D the zombie...well, hes just a zombie i guess, improved with mechanical parts and such...

[edit: url wrong + that last scan looks really, really bad, sorry bout that :( ]

[killing.people]

i think zombies are so rediculous. its a personal preference there, unless they are acually fast or smart. they cant be slow and stupid, that is just silly. every zombie movie i watch i get so frusterated. they are slow until they are right next to you, they can barely walk but they randomly punch threw borded windows - nobody bats an eye to the fact that dead flesh gets tougher. in theory, you could stop a group zombies with a heavy duty pet/child stair barrier for heaven sakes. and they eat brains? anyway i do like how you've added the hydrolic rods, very cool. now a reason that dead flesh and decaying muscle can hurt. you should add more to it, it has a lot of potential.

i really like your spider syringe concpets. in my opinion you should make its defining contours more solid. like straighter, or if you were looking for a dynamic look that would make them look faster you may use defined curves. i realize its just a sketch. really cool, i would add a little animal to it. maybe a glob of flesh for housing a venom.

[killing.people]

:hello!: its me again.

has anyone taken a peek into the eatpoo.com forums and seen the stir jason manley has caused?

i guess some of the eatpooians are teaming up in groups to create ultimate monsters!

who plans on designing a piece? i am loosing my lust for stepping on poo.

are any of the admins designing a piece? give us some moral here! (i hope some have the time)

are we going to team-up or make a diverse onslaught of different mutations? personally, i would like to see individual pieces. i wouldnt mind having andriod do my digital painting - but what if i won?.. uuhg dirty taste.

also! mr. Manley: while wading through the poo, i felt everyone isnt too clear about the rules. i know you are probably rolling your eyes thinking, "argh, take artistic licence, just work with it!" but, our forum kind of knows what to expect with a thunderdome battle. i think it would be good to clearly state the rules.

one thing that is shady is the building the creature in a month thing - that was an odd thing to add.

another being a clear description of what post-apocolyptic is. i read a really good explanation here, but i think it would benefit eatpoo as well. just want it a fair and fun battle.

fear the niv's bunnies!

-killing.niv

for the eatpoo spies: :bootyshak

[Clodhopper]

What happened to good old fashioned melee combat? I was invisioning a mass battle scene with both sides running torantly at each other. not setting traps and what not....and I'm a fan of behemoth war machines, massive gladiators and overall badass charectors. it was my interpretation that the contest said "Monster" and not "pack of small monsters" but that was just my interpretation and I may be wrong. But either way, i love seeing all the sketches. and Killing is right, we need the admins to step up and rally the forces.

[Fozzybar]

Yeah...i am confused too...and the more users post the more my confusion is growing... :huh:

Now my interpretation: Actually i thought this will be the same contest like the second one (the one with the battlegirl and a mutant by her side): Everyone makes a monster, which could be the best in a fictitious fight between all monsters. After sending them to jason, he will post them all together after the deadline.

Now there is a trend to make a monster-army, where not the individual monster is the focus, but the whole army.

Don't misunderstand me, i like the way how some users post their wips and we can discuss, but i would like to have a precise definition, so i can post my monster, which is following my first interpretation of Thunderdome Round 3...

[nil]

thanks for the crits killing.people. i agree with the whole zombie thing, theyre kinda lame, but i like em anyway :) i guess i should work on a nice dynamic pose with the whole body...damnit, im really bad at dynamic poses...ah well :) anyways: off to rework stuff :D

[mcotie]

This is my interpretation of it and I think this is pretty damn close since I'm pretty good at interpreting things, (ask my wife, he he).

Imagine if you will, us, the Conceptartorgians have been living fairly peacefully, regularly attending the gladiator shows, watching people beat the snot out of each other. We live a fairly normal post appocolyptic life. We deal with disease and death daily, we replace missing body parts with new cloned ones, or with mechanical parts we scrounged from the garage. We use transportation of whatever we can fueled by whatever burns, shower when we can. You know everyday life.
Until

The sky darkens from the news that our people are going to be attacked from the South by the Eaters of Poo. They have a fierce army. They have ravaged and conquered much of the globe; we are next. We have only 30 days to prepare for battle. Round up whatever you can. organise troops however you can with weaponry that you can make in short notice. We have to defend and If we can finish soon enough we may be able to attack them . We must make our armies viscious and strong. Some of our more advanced people can create some highly technological weaponry, others might have to settle with a chainsaw attached to thier stump and run sky-clad into battle like the ancient Gauls.

Some of you would like to run back home and be safe and hide from this battle. You might live long. But wouldn't you rather fight and trade all your days, from this day till that, for one chance at FREEDOM!!!!!!

CONCEPTARTA VICTA!!!!


he he.

[daarken]

here are some things i was kicking around. i know im new, but i was hoping i could get in on the contest. im leaning more towards the guy in the lower right, the umbilical shade. the story behind that guy is that his body is created from shadows, and the cords come out of the shadows and form his body. im gonna make it so that there are organic "lights" coming out of his body so that there is never a lack of light in order to create the shadows. let me know what you guys think. thanks!
http://www.daarken.com/boards/creatures.jpg

[Clodhopper]

Mcotie- That interpretation kicks ass!! That should be an official contest discription. [applies blue warpaint to face]

[killing.people]

comrad mcotie: except the fact that we are the instigators, we caused this war.
jason is the sick overlord stretching for territory and power.
(bringing more artist together)

comrad clodhopper: i get a little crazy with my virtual strategies; for the female thuderdome battle concpet i was going to have her seduce and assasinate him before the bout, with poison nipples - while her familar would be cutting nitches into wes9000's concept's armor straps.

comrad daarken: sweet! it is good to see other concepts (there are more self portraits going on) we do all realize that the winners get a banner that says we beat "..." in thunderdome and the losers get a banner that says we where beaten by "..." in thunderdome! not only that but i guess this battle is being noticed outside of our two forums - but by a bigger forum that get 20 times the traffic.
(also apart of big brother's elaborate plan in bringing more artists together)

-killing.victory.wine

[Android]

gekitsu- great start. lots of potential so far, aolt of its potiential lie in the 4 lower limbs, I like that you have a rough skeleton in place, if you are strugling for ideas a good approach is starting from the inside out, develop the real skeleton, then add the deep muscles then super ficial muscles then skin, armour etc, you risk spending more time but you will invest that time into development, let each decision you make build off the last one and have an open mind to how one decision influences the next. great start I can see you are puting alot of thought into it.

killing.people- nice interpritation, you have shown yourself capable of alot of unique ideas. dont let the edges of the pages interupt your vision, I often run out of paper when using traditional media. If I like whats going on I tape more pages to the sides. THe monster I am developing too up two taped together 18x24 newsprint pages. but its a good sign is your monster is bursting out your sketch book, the point is dont let the edges of your canvas limit the edges of your imigination, its also easy to add pixels to the edges of the canvas in painter or photoshop. keep it up, be creative, Im sure you will ba able to justiys yourself in the end.

Nil - Id go with the spider idea.
reach into that nightmare you had and try to distil that sureal fear into an image. and base your monster around that.
confront your inner demons and be victorious.

Clodhopper/Fozzybar - please dont take the Mad Max franchise theme to literaly, its basicly a spring board to start from. Mad max is an awesome series of films . they had great art direction, and the sharacters all had thier own style.
the phrase to concentrate is "post-acocoliptic",


this may help out

Main Entry: apoc·a·lypse
Pronunciation: &-'pä-k&-"lips
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, revelation, Revelation, from Late Latin apocalypsis, from Greek apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover -- more at HELL
Date: 13th century
1 a : one of the Jewish and Christian writings of 200 B.C. to A.D. 150 marked by pseudonymity, symbolic imagery, and the expectation of an imminent cosmic cataclysm in which God destroys the ruling powers of evil and raises the righteous to life in a messianic kingdom b capitalized : REVELATION 3

basicly create a monster born after this happens
one of the design challanges is trying to create it in a short amount of time( 30 imiginary days). that is an unexpected variable that focuses the creatures into a particular situtation so they have some colective ground to stand on.

be creative with your approach, no one knows when the apoc·a·lypse happens, or what it looks like, it can happen anytime anywhere. ,Mutants, demons, cyborgs, alieninvasion,
whatever,as long as you can realisticly tie it into the end of the world scenerio and 30 days than more power to you.

War Dog- execelent interpritation, it may inspire other artists to join this universe you have created. universes will colide on one battifield. cunsult the ministry of truth on some of your details. whoever wins will be able to rewrite history, isnt that the way it goes.

daarken- I really like to see the direction you are headed, its great to see a page of ideas together, its especialy important to make these kind of sketches in the early phase of your creation. it gives you lots of seperte ideas you can later combine into one final design.
I like parts of all of them, I respond to the aysemetrical design elements the most, especialy the gun arm and the claw blade arm. try some more sketches and concentrate in the lower extremitys like legs and feet and see if any new combinations happen.

thanks for everyones participitaion,

I cant speak for all the admins, but I can assure you Jason and I are both creating monsters. we have our own stradegy worked out but I have already revealed to much. (self destruct edit in 0ne hour)
dont rely too much on us we are only two men, we are counting on the conceptart.org comunity,
do not underestimate the talented artist on the eat poo side, we are heavily outnumbered, this is a factor Jason and I considered before the challange was issued dont let it worry any of you now after the fact. regardless of outcome it is the thrill of battle that excites both of us.

now go make your monster.

good luck, everyone!

[Grooveholmes]

"cunsult the ministry of truth on some of your details. whoever wins will be able to rewrite history, isnt that the way it goes."

Funny you should say that.. I'm about to finish that book right now. Scary shit!:eek:

[daarken]

android - im glad you like some of the ideas that im throwing around. yeah, i need to start developing full body concepts. i didnt know you are in austin. i grew up there and went to UT.

[killing.people]

comrad andriod: yay. i am excited to see what you've designed for destruction. dont remember to double think. (love that book) i am amazed you find time to do anything, your last portrait (3rd) looked like you were in pain. you know its not bad to take a rest. but then again, it will make a really cool publication - to have a year's worth of self portait journal entries. did the year's worth make your head light?

grooveholmes: interesting ending, you'll like it. and i hardly know you ..


what of the other featured artists? how about el coro, i take it feng isnt really active in the forum, with a few more, doesnt he teach now? how about the new artsits, they are incredible! what is everyone's screen names? do they even post? -or are they a publicity stunt?:)

-killing.machines

[mcotie]

While working on my composition for my piece I decided to add more desperation and mix up the mutts so they are all a little different. This is an older drawing that has the same feel to it, but with an opposite look. I will add some mech stuff to this idea to unify him with the other mutt. What do you think of that idea. Should have a dude or chick that handles these guys or should I have them just attacking the enemy causing chaos?

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/mandog.jpg

[Fozzybar]

Mcotie and all the others! Have a look at this thread i started in the lounge section...

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=623

This mutt looks more ferocious than the ones before, because his face structure doesn't look like a dog's one...it's just a bunch of muscles and sinews...

[nil]

bestest one so far mcotie, with some mech additions thatll make a fine dog o war :D


has anyone seen the eatpoo thunderdome thread? their forces have taken to arguing among themselves about having dicks for avatars...im not sure how seriously the poo eaters are taking this, i think they may be underestimating us :evilbat:

[daarken]

thats one of the reasons i decided to side with concept. everyone here seems to be a lot more friendly, especially towards outsiders. the people here just want to get out and draw. the poo eaters have resorted to flaming eachother and have an extreme hatred towards the noobies. they were also talking about only letting the veterans participate in the contest, and i think that is wrong. it should be open to everyone.

[killing.people]

it is true that conceptart.org is better than eatpoo.
however please give them respect. it just doesnt make any sense not to - as they are of the same overall community! we are of the same viens, truth be known a new member caused some problems with a penis as an avatar, i would think it was funny, but some are easily offened. it is not fair to say they suck as a group because of a select few. i have only read that single thread .. that and the toilet threads filled with porn links .. but i really am excited to see what they can turn out, they have some interesting, friendly, and cynical personalities there - like we do here.

-killing.penis

[mcotie]

Ok let's be nice................OK, now back to kicking their ass.


Here's anew update on the Hell hounds.

Mitch


http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/mandog2.jpg

[killing.people]

that looks great mcotie!!
i particularly like the slabs of metal jetting out from the creature's shoulders - man, you have really good pencil rending skills - thought that desirved some praise. also way to keep my spirits high about the upcomming bout, i am going to go do homework, and ill have some newer concept sketches of my beast - or very possibly another concept.

-killing.giants

[Fozzybar]

Wow!

I think you are on the right way...the best one... :thumbsup:

But i am still not sure, what the demands of the judge will be...i mean your creature is great in a battle in the role of the first attackers on the front line as you said, but if they will compare the monsters one by one, it'll be hard, just think of this dinobot in a different thread here at conceptart.org...he would just stomp your creature in the ground. :xx:

So this question is in my head since the beginning and i didn't have an answer yet... :confused:

If we just put an army with specialized forces, it's ok and we are on the best way...but if not...if they will compare every monster for itself, we have to rethink.... :rolleyes:

[killing.people]

i remember reading somewhere that there is no limit to the entries. once i have a good idea of how my current creature looks i was thinking of making back-up creatures that were designed to enhance someone else's monster designs, ie. say the creature you were to design didnt have much defense or speed but looked to be a jugernaught and a powerhouse, then i would conjure-up a unit to compensate for its downside and kind of have support unit, in this case a fast, defensive transport monster war machine type.

i get clostrophobic when i am in that box for too long and try to get away with as much as i can.

-killing.box

**i know i am not supposed to but, double thinking: i have better ask for the artist's permission. *knock - knock* oh shit, the thought police ...

[ironfinger]

here are a couple possible thunderdome/conceptart.org allies
[IM

[Fozzybar]

Woohooo! Ironfinger, you are here!

Welcome amongst the mighty monster-army of conceptart.org!

Great...errr....thing the 1st one! Looks like a big tick...some kind of air raid defences...

The background is really cool too...you know what i am thinking of the second...i already wrote some lines in the original thread...

sniff...sniffffff....i can smell the odor of...sniff...of....of WAR!

:firedevil :firedevil :firedevil :firedevil :firedevil :firedevil :firedevil

[gekitsu]

android: thank you very much :)
will have a go at it, these days. i spent a few days now in my new job, so i can start clearing my head of lots of things now...

mitch: wow! that's one great doggie! luvvit!
honestly - does your dog really need any support? if it needs, i'm in :) dark-beer-connection :D

[Sedone]

mcotie, I really like your pencil technique. Those dogs would be ideal for picking off the enemy's flanks.

[Oblio]

TO: General Eatpoo Himself.

------ T O P S E C R E T ----

We respect you as our enemy!
Best regards,

Oblio

Now - enough nice talking.
If you came here to take on killing.people or anyone in particular - welcome - do your usual poo glick... glick... (we all know that kiling.people has a passion for nipples, squirrels and abused children fantasy art ;) ) but to walk in here and state your hi-class standards and elevate-poo excuses it's a powerful disgrace.

Have you ever cried in front of a drawing or a painting Mr. High State Of The Art Artist? Have you ever had the peace and open mind to look beyond and try to understand? (now I sound pathetic)
Art is an egoist way of expression and that's why, only real masters can understand it in its very nature, and still be amazed by a... dot.
I am LESS then a newbie but some GREAT artists (not naming them) have given me the courage to place the very first artistic dot on a paper. And I’m glad I’ve found them HERE.
Be in peace... fight your monsters - wisdom hopefully will find you too. A great artists loves ART and let their art to guard the ego. watch.. there are some realy great artists here

Not that I’m taking side of killing - but his sick art has become nice since I’ve seen his dedication. I might not share the room with him yet, but his dedication and inner-monster tormented talk/art he showed makes him a decent concepartorgian (if you allow).
If I had more english knowledge I wouldn't sound so stupid :rolleyes:
(killing.people – no hard feelings mate – if you are not communist I might share a room with you – separate beds though :D)

Well - back to the bottom of it!

IT'S THE ENEMY! IT'S THE ENEMY! Poo away, you evil maharajah! :p

Totally Frustrated Newbie Oblio

[nil]

well, it seems i started another round of flaming. sorry , that wasnt my intention.

mcotie: that looks sooo cool man, can twait to see the final thing. and your hell-hound would pound the ass off any dinobot any day :D

ironfinger: im liking your stuff, but the first one...you might have to justify how it could be made in 30 days..

[ironfinger]

thanks nil, Well it's grown genetically in testubes by mixing various mutations of biological DNA yada yada yada, then after 30 days it is born So technically it was created in a month. It just takes about a year for it to grow that big. Of course there are growth stimulants that can cut that time in half.

[Fozzybar]

nil, 30 days?

I mean we are talking about a fictional post-apocalyptic time...maybe in the year 32435!

Maybe they snap with their fingers to make a monster or they somewhere found our concept sketches on an old nearly destroyed cd and just put them into the turn-conceptart-to-real-monster-o-matic and in 30 days you got thousands of them...30 days? it's a joke...

But for eatpoos it's their last respite :electric:

Hey, by the way, i spotted some roundeye-spies in our smily-collection:

:bigeyes: :crosseyed: :cyclops: :ep: :shocked:

[balistic]

Some of us aren't interested because we're sodding tired of the post-apocalyptic design rut.

To me, the post-apocalypse is conceptual ground so heavily-trodden that I can't see anything new growing out of it. And if one does try something that pushes the boundaries of the established genre, they are inevitably accused of breaking the rules.

I'd really rather explore a future that doesn't suck.

Just a poo-eater's opinion.

[ironfinger]

Fozzybar> "turn-conceptart-to-real-monster-o-matic " Now thats quite a concept in itself. What if it was the year 10000032, then anything would be a go.

Balistic, I don't think very many people would find the whole genre very original. Genres like
Post-apocalyptic/VR/Cyberpunk are classics that have established iconography and Archetypes. That's kinda the beauty and fun of the whole thunderdome thing; very non-pretentious and easy to do.

[mcotie]

So , balistic, what your saying is since the wheel has already beeen done, and been done to death theres no reason to design a better wheel. Since soap has already been invented designed and redesigned to death there's no reason to make better soap. I could go on.
ok I will.

Who said anything about Post apocalyptic sucking. You know if I were alive in that imaginative 'Horrible' time, I would live with as much enthusiasm, and optimism, as I do in this screwed up era in history.


I tell you what's been done and done over and over again and I'm tired of hearing it and seeing it; it's people making excuses to not doing something because it's easier than actually doing it. c'mon man have some damn fun , draw some frickin post apocalyptic pics, enter the 'dome, step across the line we drew in the sand and make some new stuff happen if you don't like the old usual.

Mitch

[stalecracker]

Mcotie- Your designs KICK some twisted ass and you are ABSOLUTELY correct. Me thinks Balistic doth protest too much. Draw or shut up... you girl.


(No offense to girls or anything)



P.S. It's spelled B-a-l-L-i-s-t-i-c. Two L's.

[balistic]

Originally posted by mcotie

I tell you what's been done and done over and over again and I'm tired of hearing it and seeing it; it's people making excuses to not doing something because it's easier than actually doing it. c'mon man have some damn fun , draw some frickin post apocalyptic pics, enter the 'dome, step across the line we drew in the sand and make some new stuff happen if you don't like the old usual.


You're calling me lazy for explaining why I'm not interested in the challenge when someone asked?

Wow.

Just . . . yeah.

Hope that works out for you.

[balistic]

Originally posted by stalecracker
Mcotie- Your designs KICK some twisted ass and you are ABSOLUTELY correct. Me thinks Balistic doth protest too much. Draw or shut up... you girl.

P.S. It's spelled B-a-l-L-i-s-t-i-c. Two L's.

OMGWTFBBQ?!1!!! ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SPACE BETWEEN TWO WORDS STALECRACKER?!!!1!!

[mcotie]

c'mon man just looking for some good sport, no need to get freaked out on us. simple ha ha or touche was expected. sorry to get you ticked.

I'm not calling you lazy. I don't even know you, I'm simply making a point. The guidelines were laid out for a sport of artistic abilities. rather than slam the guidelines, just enter if you want. that's it.

I'm passionate about what i do, and having a good time time doing this, while keeping my clock full with everything else.

It doesn't matter, I'm babbling and I need to be drawing.

Hope to see your stuff in the battle ( for what it's worth).

Mitch

[Oblio]

--- T O P S E C R E T ---

The enemy is organizing their troops. I see their generals making alliances and the sky has turned red over their land. Their factories are warming up. Old people, women and children are all working to support the soldiers of Poo Army.
Damn.. the smell is ... &^%$.. ugh... those poo ea... holy poo.

IT IS TIME TO POST SOME ART - OVER AND OUT (To make some)

Here is an insight to their first monsters:
http://www.eatpoo.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4595

And here - their new call to arms!
http://www.eatpoo.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4718

Oblio

[killing.people]

ironfinger: i love it - awesome! it reminds me of the contra art work. i love that squid shaped crawler, whats the deal with the plasma stuff, defenately should develope it more. the backgrounds are a nice touch, as well as the oraganic esophogus/degestive track tube that loads the ammunition into the flier's unit's gun, neat idea, i would like to incorporate something like that in future concepts. *trys to swallow a bullet*

i guess i will respond to this moron ..
roundeye: eat me. i guess thats why i dont post there huh? man - a little hostility for me eh? thats the last time i defend your site from rants mang`. :funny: and thats .. i .. *runs off crying*

obilo: oh no problem obilo, kick me in balls anytime you want - just make sure you say sorry .. :confused:

traitor :p

balistic: dont mind them its cool man. that sucks you think the thunderdome thing is lame - so .. are you still going to do a monster concept and help out your forum? i am assuming you arent gonna.

mcotie: i dont think that wasn't very fair, you might have blown what he said a little out of proportion. you kinda was shoving a wheel and some soap in his mouth ur .. something?

stalecracker: yeah you are missing a space you idiot.

:p

nil: what did you do to cause this nonsense? just curious

we should work on organizing these posts, it is getting crazy in here. if you guys can think of any threads that would be cool - maybe a "roundeye's dud taunts" string.

love and peace, love and peace :chug:

-killing.people

[Fozzybar]

killing.eatpoo, you are completely right! It's getting chaotic!

:wtf:

I would say everybody who wanna post a new image should do this in the thunderdome section as a new thread, since i didn't get an answer if it's ok, i think it is :)

I would suggest something like a thread for every warrior of conceptart like this:

TD#3 - mcotie: mutant mutt

So we can comment on each wip.
I also would suggest a "trash-talk"-thread, where both sides can rip off their heads :chug:

Another cool idea (would only make sense later in the progress): Someone should put every finished monster in one image to compile a Group-Pic of our army...maybe in formation on the front line....no redrawing of every single monster but a copy and paste-thing...

How about, if someone of you guys, who started some sketches, opens a thread for his wip in the thunderdome section, so the rest would follow the example. :cool:

[balistic]

I need to stop replying to messages at two in the morning. No good can come of it.

[Loga4]

Oblio
Hi,neighbor,good spying! their army is risen...
keep us inform...be mindful...
Best Luck!

[mcotie]

here's a colorized W.I.P. of the new sketch.

Less talk, more art!!!

Mitch

http://mcotie.vectorstar.net/mandog2c.jpg

[nil]

mcotie: im jealous :D i was waiting for a colour rendidtion and this is absolutely great. for some reason i really like the purple background

killing.people: i said that the poo eaters seemed to not taking us seriousl as they had taken to infighting. round the bottom of page 7 (geez?! page 7! lol)

to battle! :chug:

oh yeah, and whats up with all the collabarating going on over there? i guess they need to team up to beat us, huh? meh, i got no chance against the likes of roundballs b y himself, let alone if hes collabing :p

[killing.people]

:) i think its cause they have the numbers .. cause they can, i have new sketches i was up all night. ** posting **

[killing.people]

concepts of the creators of my monsters.

killing.doctor
moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)
engineer.people
moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)

[killing.people]

skeleton concept: i had some problems with all of the skeleton - i couldnt cheat the aniamlesk structures very well, ie. the front legs and pelvis thing.

monster conseptual skeleton
moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)

the hull i found muddled so i played around with it, defined where its brain was and "scratched the surface" of the technicalities of the armor's hull.

monster conceptual hull
moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)
nipple lover .. guilty

-killing.sleep

[Fozzybar]

killing: why don't you make an own thread of your wip in the thunderdome-section? It would be great to see the development and would make it easier to keep track of our works...

mcotie: same to you about this thread-thing...great rendering! I guess you are working on another monster, since this seems quite finished...

Mini-monster: :evilbat:

[killing.people]

michelangalo: "i've got one word that can solve all our problems .. 'time share'"

i took a new approach with this one .. i think it got too imaginative. seems i do that .. i never stop to think if it would have been created or would be useful until later. *shrug*
this monster has a large hook. i gave him weird looking fring shishcabobs. monsters gotta eat too you know.
moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138) moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138) moved (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5138#post5138)

[Grooveholmes]

killing.doctor rules! Its awful, I mean great... err you know what I mean.:chug:

[killing.people]

groovy: i think i know what you mean - so thanks.

*interupted with thought*
(first monster concept): man i think i might need to add a cooling system, it would get pretty hot in there, i figure the guts of the creature could be in the horse figured rib cage, it should need nurishment for its bones and what not, although it wont last very long on the basttle field i am sure, i wonder who's would win in a battle, mine or the eat poo pig dude, (that is beautifully painted, sheesh .. i am gonna have to take a while on the digital painting stuff, it isnt my forte` or whatever. in the very first drawing i put some red gill looking things on its sides, i could probably work in a cooling system there somehow. i was also thinking of puting a camera on its back with a little liquid screen for the pilot, or maybe school bus mirrors on the minature moose antlers .. whatever. and maybe it could eat with the head that guards the entry orface, like a rail track it decides which is pilot and which is food.

[stalecracker]

Hi Balistic... I WAS just jabbing at you. No offense *cough* nancy-boy *cough*. You are right about a space between stale and cracker. BUT... stalecracker is not the english word Stale and Cracker. It's actually a Dutch-Romanian WORD meaning " Large, strapping lad with a nice sway back".


But I can see where you got confused...

[Jason Manley]

ballistic: the challenge of the concept artist is to take a given idea which is often cliche and to make it CREATIVE...to layer it with ideas that make it something fresh...

what it sounds like to me is that you have not thought of a solution to the problem of your "design rut"...

there is nothing wrong with post apocolyptic genre...its up to the artist to do something creative within it...that is the true challenge...true creativity comes out when working withing boundaries...its easy to be creative when there are no boundaries....it is that true creative problem solving that shows us if you see and think in the cliche or if you can push past the typical and into something interesting...can you create fresh ideas??

pretty much all genres are explored to a high degree...you name it, aliens...dragons...fantasy....scifi...horror...vam pires...you name it, its been done....but somehow almost every day i see something fresh...take a look at jon fosters work on the front page...that is a perfect example. he has fresh ideas...right?

i can understand if you have painted a boatload of images in the particular genre...Ive painted plenty of dwarves and halflings...and believe me...i'd rather paint something different....but saying that its the genre that is the "rut" is not the case...at least IMHO....thats like saying everything with black pepper and salt tastes the same...add some spices and different ingredients...season to taste...cook up something good!

BUT JUST FOR YOU...Ill fixy our problem for you, since u arent inspired toward any solution.....simply make any monster you want...you feel stifled by the contest rules...I tell you what..for you..there are no rules...just make a monster for your team...they would love to have ya...so get painting...


jason manley

[Oblio]

@Andrew - my task done (it was some fun, but it took me a lot of time) - any good? :confused:

http://users.pcnet.ro/oblio8/photo-monster%202.jpg

@loga4 - Sdravo :) I've seen your thunderdomet#2 entry. You will put more work on this one soldier, right? ;)

@Fozzy-Ozzie - Couldn’t do the thread outside - no rights. Anyway I think it is better here - in the self portrait miniforum we prefer to keep it a single post. It's easier to follow all the action! and BTW - WHERE IS YOUR MONSTER? Post some art amigo! ;)

@killing.me - hey tormented mini monster, think commercial - your monsters are cool, but they wouldn't make it into a game or anything - and the jury might not support you for that. What do you think? Put more work on it, make them clear, moody... you know (who am I to crit. you anyway... - just a small advice if you feel needing one).

@Jason - hey Master, you feel all right? Loose up a little. A lot of people here are waiting for you to "come back" - so take it easy, finish that work and then enlighten us to the victory and beyond!

Oblio Out

[killing.people]

you really are advising me to be more commercial?

i dont know exactly what you mean. it kind of bothered me that you said that :rolleyes:, only because it had a familiar stink of the art institute's policies of art and how it should be.

i think you might be right to an extent, only because i am not sure what you mean; are my sketches to dark, perplexed or disturbing? .. or are you speaking of the quality of the works in which - i think you know .. but - they are sketch.

jason seemed a little pieved huh. did you notice he properly spelt his name wrong?

-killing.obilo

[Nordstrand, T]

Go KP, go! :)

Oblio probably refers to the fact that your designs wouldn't fit in Pocahontas 2, know what I mean? No matter...

At this time, we desperately NEED the scariest, ugliest, most brutally disgusting piece of dedicated ass-whipping you can dish out, so STAY ON IT Killing.People. :D It would seem that this is your alley we're fighting in - I like your designs, truly original stuff. I'll be joinin' soon, though I'm unfamiliar with the genre, I must dig up something... dig up... hmm....

ideas . forming

[daarken]

yes, we need hardcore, bad mothas to stomp some poo. i really liked the pic of the doctor working on the monster with all the little baby thingies. keep rockin

[killing.people]

:dead3: you guys give me strength.

i would love to see more people do monster concepts. i can see how you could not get around doing one, surprisingly i am learning alot from it and having a hell-of-a fun time thinking about and with-in the restraints set by jason's freakish conjure. i am going to be practicing my digital painting skills. wacomless.


obilo: i guess i could wip up an anime character, just in case.
-k.p

[SaltyDog]

Behold.....I call forth my slayer mutant zombie. Pieced together from the deceased....relentless, feeling no pain, it savagely attacks. Shards of depleted uranium directly embedded into it's skeleton give it a razor-sharp handshake :P I have more in the works, but this is my first take!

http://www.digitalmekka.com/digitalmekka/images/zombiecontest.jpg

[FIG]

......those punk bitches at Eatpoo are going down. Especialy since I know who some of them are. Avengers Assemble! Hows that for geeky?

[davi]

conceptart.org will die :bash:

[absinthe]

i second that :bash:

[FIG]

Go back to eatpoop you traitors. :evilbat:

[killing.people]

smitten with our own smilies.
-killings

"if you dont know your laws, you dont have any"

[killing.people]

obilo: i really really love your new whale! incredible. the gigantic saw blade rocks, could you imagine what that could do to their ships? dope. praise for obilo, even though he said mine wasnt good enough .. :mumble:

[Oblio]

@killing - I've just seen it again on other monitor (Sunday at the office). It's too damn bright. I'll fix it... damn!
About the "commercial" - sorry - I didn't mean any harm - is just that here (my country) NOBODY is doing "commercial" stuff - I've seen hundreds of portfolios - all kind of splashes, a photo of two chairs with the name" Two chairs" and all this kind of extremely artistic stuff, but when I've asked for a demo (in order to hire them) they couldn’t draw a firkin Mickey Mouse - not to mention an human without disproportions!
So... no offence - it's just a cultural disorder! :)

Your know? I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship :D

@davi - no, you couldn't have said that. I'm already dieing... but if you have to kill me - draw your scariest monster and, yes, put it in the poo army! :)

@absinte - hey, who the fuck asked you? :D You takin' to me? You takin' to ME? Well... show me the monster! I bet mine is bigger ;)

Keep it up guys! Enemy at the gates soon!

Oblio :chug:

[killing.people]

i did a little trash talking at eatpoo .. :trouble:

[Spacer]

you know, thunderdome would make a great WC3 TC :)


anyone wanna back that up? :P

[Oblio]

--- T O P S E C R E T ---

The enemy has just returned from another fight! Their army is spectacular!
Check this out!

http://www.eatpoo.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3713&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

We need a real monster. Can we hire Britney Spears?
Over and out
(if i wouldn't have to be at the office on sunday I would take care of another monster!) :mad:

Oblio

[killing.people]

have you seen promethius's new one?
fetch'n nice.
-k.p

[Loga4]

Hi, Oblio,once again good report:)Thanks!
As for my piece for round 2,it was 2 hour jop,deadline was
at my frst day of vacation(I work in advertising firm here)
and I was uncertain about should I post it,because I didn`t
devote enough of myself in that piece(I still feel bad about that)...but for the monster
I will,it is promise!
By the way,your photo-monster is very interesting.
Oh,yes(now this is shame)but can someone tell me
how to post my work,I miss that part because I was
very busy at my firm,so I didnt really thinking about it
before(shame,shame,I know,sorry)
:o

[absinthe]

Oblio..oh dont worry my monster is being colored and i doubt its bigger....its not the size that matters right :rolleyes:

and you do realize that thread you linked to is for our other contest...

[gekitsu]

i recently doodled a different idea in my lunch break. this is what it roughly looks like:
http://www.polycount.com/cottages/gekitsu/pimp/monster2.png
i drew one side only and the claws are kind of placeholders. i think about something more agressive made of metal atm...

comments on the idea highly appreciated. better or worse than the previous one?

[Oblio]

Here it is:

General disclaimer:
All the talking I do here means no personal harm. I'm the total newbie - I've taken a pencil in my hand (with drawing intention) only 3 months ago!!! - I'm in no position to speak here anyway- but I try to do my best on ART!
The goal of this thunderdome contest is NOT to break the artist in two but to "unite" them - we're ALL in the same competition after all - just that the winner will bring honor to his friends and co-forumists as well.
If tomorrow a new contest in witch the best collaboration between our sites will pop up, I'll be extremely happy - because I'm not looking at ANY of you as enemies. We are just contenders - all in the same contest.

As for the link... it was just to introduce some of you great people to the conceptartorgians.

Oblio :chug:

[absinthe]

LIES LIES LIES :)
hehe of course..thats how it was taken oblio :) there are great artists on both forums..(cough but eatpoo is better cough cough) hehe sorry about the selfless plugs for eatpoo. anyways i am really looking forward to seeing the outcome of this battle royal! :)

[el coro]

here is my entry for the dogs of war. this is my beagle, Katsu. she is vicious..
http://members.fortunecity.com/coro36//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/katsu_small.jpg

[mcotie]

Retreat, retreat, the hound of hell is upon us!

Look into the fierce eyes,
for it's the last time you will.
The beagle of Hell ist borne,
its howl of war ist shrill.

Fear not mcotie's mech mutts.
nor salty dogs zombie man.
no fret for tarwaters air assault,
or killing peoples thingy-man.

Clodhopper's minotaur
rubygenius shark-crab
to armor clad polarbears
and half eaten whale's flab.

Jason and Android
waste hours on end
trying to make a creature
to bring the war to an end.

but all this haste
makes no sense at all
for the beagle from hell
hast beconed our call.

We shall pound a large mud hole
in the asses of Eat Poo.
The only Poo in this scene
I have scraped off my shoe.

at my sign...Unleash the Beagles!

CONCEPTARTA VICTA!!!

[killing.people]

:iws: thingy-man! i swear .. at least eatpooians ignore me.

el coro: its kinda .. *scratches his head* .. well, cute.

-k.people

[Grooveholmes]

"The only Poo in this scene
I have scraped off my shoe."

Bwah-hah ha

[Hedrus]

Here is my entry into the thunderdome! It's not done yet and there isn't color, yet. I have it all layed out in a real rough thumbnail. I have tomorrow off so I'll be bustin a$$ to get it done tomorrow. Please feel free to make comments on it so far. There is a base that the monster is attached to that isn't drawn yet in case you were wondering. There are some more weapons that aren't in place as well. Speak up though because after tomorrow it will be hard to make changes. I'm going for a more line art look than painting, hence the lines with no values yet. k, here it is.
http://www.imagewiz.net/images/hedrus/imagewiz59515.jpg

[killing.people]

:jawdrop:
that .. is .. fucking .. nuts!

kick ass! cant wait until it is finished!
(that actually looks like it was created under a month)
-killing.damnations

[azjohnl]

wow, very nice... in an icky way! :D

[mcotie]

Holy shit balls Batman!

that is badass. I can't wait for color.


Killing.people- I didn't mean any disrespect on your art through my poetry, I was stumped for a rhyme. Your piece is most excellent!

killing.apologies


Mitch

[crazylegs]

quick sketch inspired by the contest. sorry for the crappy scan - in the midst of rebuilding my home system! Comments and Crits Welcome!

sorry, the link should be right now.:)

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/a/bailey86/sketches/sk1.jpg

[killing.people]

mcotie: :hh: ahh, no`fense man.
i knew you were joking.

[Android]

Hedrus- Holy Shit!! thats so fucking sweat my teeth are going to fall out. I seriously had to check your web adress to make sure you werent Jeff Darrow. I wouldant suggest you change one thing its beautifull as far as any advice for the creature that supports it i would pay attention to maintaining the beautiffull compositional rythem you have already established. great work, great to have you on our side I would hate to have to fight agianst such an monster

[Fozzybar]

Oblio: Wait...i will post my monster sketches soon, if i will have the time to work them out a liitle more! And don't ask for my monster again, it's going berserk very quick.... :electric:

Hedrus: Hey! We were asked to make 1 monster, not a monster world!!! :) Looks very different...but how it moves on? Will it be on a vehicle? Or flying?

killing.people: Thank you for making your own thread with your thunderdome-monster! Things are going easier this way! :thumbsup:

crazylegs: It's an ínteresting rpg-character, but in the bonecracking and bloodspattering world of the thunderdome arena it wouldn't stand a chance against the monsters. Make him wild, extra-ordinary, vicious, overwhelming, make him THE monster... :realmad:

el coro: this monster brougth me several fright nights... :vampire:

gekitsu: i am courious about it's face. Looks good!

[killing.people]

hedrus:
your peice is so overwhelming with detail! *all hollywood* "i was like wow"
after looking staring at it i noticed something that bothered me - and i want to help out cause this peice rocks so far. i think my favorite part is the gigantic arm, this would be a freaky monster to battle in a game. the hooked arms are sweet - here and there.

i numbered the bubbles! now i realize that its not done, and some of my critiques are going to be obvious to you but hey, i duno .. little things started to bother me the longer i looked at it.
killing.crit:
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/critique3.jpg
1. in my opinion i think the elbow brace is swift justice but needs more detail. you might have planned for that already but i thought it could use more trinkets. i thought it would be cool to add more spikes to the halo around his arm, easier said i know.
2. that little gear thing is bothering me with its perspective on the bolts and stuff - they seem to be slightly facing the wrong way .. or looking up.
3. that metale thing is also out of perspective, i dont think you should be able to see the top of the cylinder, unless it is at some degree of angle.
4. a nipple peircing? honestly.
5. i think you should re-work something into his arm, that appendage .. gun .. thing sticking out of his arm isnt too happy there.
6. just opinion, i dont like the thing threw his hand it's too bulky. i guess i am just looking for stuff.
7. the pespective seems off for that little hinge-switch-looking thing.

welp just trying to help, hope it worked.
i cant wait to see your updates as well as your final rendition
great work again man - really cool.

-killings

[killing.people]

btw: what did you use to draw this?

[Hedrus]

Ok, I'm really tired and starting to see crosseyed so if my post sounds incohearant, thats why.

I'm really glad you all seem to like my creature so far. I'm going to let you all in on what I'm planning for the base... And tell me if you think this is a bad idea. I was planning on mounting my creature on a pillar made out of stone and metal. My idea was that this thing is strictly defensive so it doesn't need to be very mobile. It would be placed on a wall as a first line of defense. There would be a trench before the wall and on the wall you would have these monsters every couple of yards or so. Inside the wall underneath the creatures there would be a geneticlly grown fetus with an inlarged brain and umbilical chord attached to the creature. This would be the "hive brain" that would organize all the different minds in each creature. Plus, a direct hit to one of the heads would have very little impact on the creatures overall effectivness. I was "for the images' sake" going to add a port hole in the wall to show the fetus and the large umbilical chord. I work in the game indusrtry as a "concept to finish guy" but I'm an illustrator at heart. Hence, the polished look and non-sketch/concept look. I'm working on it. I really want to speed up and get looser. SEE how tired I am. I'm rambling...
Anyway, if you think thats a bad idea let me know.

Android: I love your artwork. You are a real inspiration. I'm sooooo glad you like what I'm doing with this creature. Means allot.

mcotie-Thanks! I've been watching your creature/s progress very nicely. Love the running one.

killing.people: Right you are about sooo many things. OK,
1. I agree with you. I wish I had another month to work on this... If I finish everthing else first, then I'll go back and add stuff to it. You are right, I was burning out when I did that part.
2.Right again! You've been looking at this way to long, and so have I. My perspective is off all over the place. I'm normally a real stickler about perspective but I let it slide on this one because of time. I'll try to fix as much perspective as I can.
3.Again correct. I flip my perspective allot. I was slightly dislexic when I was a tot... I'm lefty, I wonder...
4.Why not!!
5.Thats why it is there! Think of it as acupuncture(with a railroad spike) for monsters to relieve pressure and focus chi.
6.The railroad spike things are all there as like last minute stuff(not last minute for the drawing, but in creation of the creature). It's like "this arm doesn't have a weapon, I know! I'll shove this spike in there for it to whack things with!". I didn't want to put guns in the drawing just because I wanted my monster to feel really melee you know, hand to hand fighting.
7. You are probably right again. The perspective in that area was insane to draw. I faked allot of it. I really wish I had the $100 set of ellipse guides. Like I said before, I'll try to fix the perspective.

You gave me a great crit. Thanks. I did this all with lots of pencils, little ink, lots of paper, lots of tape, lots of photoshop. I also used a ruler here and there. My thumb is numb and my middle finger has this huge nasty dent in it that hurts like a mo-fo. I haven't drawn this much since college. I do so much 3D work now. I'm starting to sculpt with castilene as well. I'd love to make toys and resin kits. Rambling again. Time to sleep.... gnight.

Kenzie

[killing.people]

4. i guess it makes sense .. maybe if the war engineers didnt waist so much time with peircing the shoulder's torso's nipple, they could have thought of something better to jam into the damnation's hand ..
.. maybe a railroad spike in the nipple to wack people with. (??)
-killing.melee.nipples
ps. sleep - sleeep

*edit:
i know why you want to, but it would make this monstrosity less frightening if it were fussed to a wall with melee attacks.
interesting idea though - the mother brain. that thing needs a form of transit! please!!

[killing.people]

if you dont have the time, maybe you can let some people try to finish it. eatpoo is doing it.

[Eshara]

Lol El coro. Thats so cute!

Your dog is SO adorable it makes me wish I had a beagle right now. :D

[Fozzybar]

Camerades!

Things going serious!

Spyware:

http://www.eatpoo.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4882

Whet your knives!

[benzo]

Still working on the color...would love any crits or feedback.
thx

http://www.rsad.edu/~bsprout/pipemonsterWEB.jpg http://www.rsad.edu/~bsprout/pipemonsterWEBdetail.jpg

[JoshuaTheJames]

wow ben!

you truely like dark stuff...

i love the idea of the guys in the tubes!

-Joshua

btw ben did some concept art for lucasarts this summer ;) intern-style!

[killing.people]

benzo:

:rofl:
i was so entertained by this design! dude, i love the little guys in the creatures head, riding the tredmill in the green jar-head liquid and smoking a pipe - oh feek! - lining the jar's roof with light brown smoke. it has a cutsy, twisted day dream .. alice in wonderland motif. very entertaining.

pick-a-dillow:
the black boarder is hurting my eyes with constraint, it kills the rythm and hold my eyes to the center. unless you like this, i would advise using a new composition. just pointing it out.

-killing.dillow

[killing.people]

if you are going for little critter pilots, you have succeeded.
if you are going for a large mechanical robot, you may take a look a kchen's advice on chacter perspective - in which giving the peice a worm's eye view point will make your character seem larger.

-loving.kchen

[JoshuaTheJames]

Originally posted by el coro
here is my entry for the dogs of war. this is my beagle, Katsu. she is vicious..
http://members.fortunecity.com/coro36//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/katsu_small.jpg
coro THIS IS F#$@ING BEAUTIFUL :D

[SaltyDog]

lol....Looking great guys! I've been over to Eatpoo and they have some killer stuff as well, but it would seem a couple of them aren't adhering to the "built in a month" timeframe.

Keep that in mind...it's a pertinent and interesting restriction!

[killing.people]

do you guys think my monster is too much?
in the need help thread: killing.eatpoo

[Fozzybar]

I don't know how to assess (right word?) this "built in a month"-thing, since the apocalypse can happen at any time...tomorrow or in 100.000 years...who can say what will be possible to build in a period of a month then?

So, i would say: Make YOUR monster and forget this thing!

[killing.people]

assess: you used the word correct, when in contex. it is also plural for ass.

fozzy: i am sure it is a factor that matters and will be judged with. i think saltydog was refurring to the newest of the monsters for eatpoo - in which they drew in a 6-foot human to show it in scale. it was some three-times the height, which might be doubtfull under a month .. i dont know, i am not a judge anyhow.
must not just forget about it, it is still a requirement. it just needs a little explaining .. *cue explaining*

[brasshorsekiller]

1 the monster can be of any shape, size, color, robotic, mutant etc...

2 the monster must fit into the post apocolyptic world of thunderdome.

3 the monster must be built or created in some way as there is only a little over a month to prepare! What kind of monster could be created in the post apocolyptic world in such a short time??

Okay. I'll explain this. This (http://www.innersaga.com/x/eviscerus.gif) creature fits all of these guidelines. It clearly states in the rules that the monster can be of any shape and size. This rule wouldn't be in place if there were some kind of size restriction.
I designed the creature with some mechanical parts infused, which I intended as a clue to the backstory of it's origin. In this case, it's a military weapon, grown and engineered. Yes, in 30 days. If someone wants to debate a concept as fictional as that, be my guest. I don't know many genetic engineers from the future, so I doubt anyone else does.
Long story short, the creative possibilities in this contest are endless, as they should be. Lets all just make our creatures and have some friendly competition with some cool new ideas to see, instead of debating something pointless. Sound good? Okay. Thanks guys. Keep making monsters. :)

-aaron

[Jason Manley]

just make a damn post apocolyptic monster that is assembled looking and you are as good as in..hahahah

hows that for restrictions?

j

[killing.people]

its not.

sweet. i love your guys monster by the way! it rules my couch. you guys did an awesome job!
:eat:
(by far anything better than i can do) :bow:

[mcotie]

whew, Jason...thanks, we needed that!

[Fozzybar]

killing.eatpoo: about this size-thing...i think size won't be a criterium in judging, at least i wish. I mean imagine, mcotie could draw a human as small as a toenail of his mutant-mutt to show the real size...and his monster would eat the last one from eatpoo for breakfast. :eat:

they should be compared in their skills...or i will make my monster as big as planet earth :blue:

btw...what's the meaning of this bs-flag???

:bsflag:

[mcotie]

Fozzy

Bull Shit

or im Deutsche:

StierSheiBe.

[killing.people]

i updated my monster.

its in with the 'i need help' threads.

i kind of screwed myself. as i was downsizing the image something started to bother me so i touched it up. i was going to copy something or paste something .. it happened so fast, but i ended up hitting ctrl+s (save) and it saved over my hig res. file .. :cry:

-killing.brass.horse

[Nordstrand, T]

You can undo even after saving, use the History box! When you close Photochop though, there is no turning back... :(

If you need techinical help in your creation, scream out loud, 'key? I'm currently only on the supporting team
:help:

Will join in laters though, you betcha! :D

[killing.people]

f#ck! :cry:

i had photoshop open, but i closed the prject window

oh quick i wonder if it saved the history!?

[killing.people]

.. no
.. you right

[ironfinger]

here's a ground troop. It doesnt need to see because it's psychic. His right hand is a spiked iron maiden gauntlet. And his weapon is a giant saw.[IMG]http://

[nick reynolds]

Thats awesome!!! I love it. Everyone is doing some really cool stuff!.

[Jason Manley]

iron finger...I want you to try something...do a gesture of what the figure would look like underneath the cloth...do it right over the top of your image...your painting is way too nice to leave with the current issues Im seeing...

very nice...the colors...the layout...really balsy colors.....the problem I see happens from waste down...ask yourself what the legs are doing underneath and behind all the good stuff...

can you see what I am seeing?

j

[ironfinger]

thanks nick, glad you like it.


Jason,

yeah I knew the legs and feet were squirly. I was hoping no one would notice. I should have done a better sketch before starting the painting. It sucks because this attempt to fix the legs took more time than the entire image, and I'm still not sure if its correct. I'll have to get away from it for a few days. My best bet is to just do another concept. keep moving forward and learn from the mistakes.

well here's the update.

btw, thanks for the heads up.

[Smeagol71]

I just wanted to throw out my thanks to all posting on this thread. It's been fascinating to see these works develop. Good tips and good advice from all...I'm gearing up myself and hopefully will have some sketches and concepts ready for crits within a week or so. Thanks for the inspiration.

MCotie and Ironfinger...your stuff is schweeeeeeeet!

[Hedrus]

I know the deadline for this competition is the 15th(tomorrow) but is there a specific time it's due? I know I'm going to be working on it untill the last minute. I'm on the west coast so mine will be submited around 11:30pm tomorrow night if thats cool. I just don't want to mess up and submit to late missing the deadline. Thanks!


Kenzie

[Jason Manley]

we upped the date to oct 15 as to not coincide with eatpoos fantastic monthly contest.

j

[Hedrus]

I have been staying up night and day missing soooo much sleep trying to finish my entry. I totally missed the announcement that it was extended. Little over 2 more weeks. Ohhh yeahhhh!!! Great... I'm going to get some sleep now.:o


Kenzie

[mcotie]

Wait a minute, the first post on this thread says OCTOBER 15.

Did I miss something?

If it is now moved to October 1st, that's cool. uuhhh, I mean that's a hell of alot cooler than SEPT 15.


Somebody throw me a frickin bone here.

Mitch

[Jason Manley]

sorry...oops..typo.

fixed.

j

[taff]

ironfinger - just wanted to say, that the colors of your painting are a great choice! beautiful!

[killing.people]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=2852#post2852 : i found an eat poo mis-post, anyone else notice this?

[ironfinger]

taff- Smeagol71 - thanks, glad you like it, i might do another one.

killing, you mean the post about sijun? It would be interesting if Craig Mullins got in on this.

[hydro]

I came here from eatpoo forums. looking for more specific information on this thunderdome challenge. I was wondering if only one peice was needed. And when is the exact deadline. If I have time I would like to participate on the conceptart.org side. I like this forum better and I only been lurking here today.:xx:

[Oblio]

Hi Hydro - man you have been living under a big rock :D
That means you rock - right? Because we need you on our side for sure! So.. welcome on our troops!
Deadline is 15 October! (right guys?)
You can submit a whole army if you can - but take note - we have to win! :p
Both forums are fine... yet Concepart.org rules! :)

Oblio

[Fozzybar]

Right General Oblio!

Hydro, there is no limitation to your entries. Make asskicking stuff and then let's do it!

What's going on at all? At the beginning there were lot more posts with wips...but i guess the more we show the more the other side would benefit...on the other hand, isn't it that what we want? Improving our skills by benefitting from each one? A huge art community?

NOOOO!!!!

WE WANT WAR!!! :bash: :btu: :D :) :p

[Oblio]

Don't worry Fozzy,
The troops are forming, the monster nursery lights are on all night, the plans are in debate, the food chain is set up, the oil is flowing, the dust is cleared, the weapons are getting assembled... in silence.
The battle reports should be here but everybody is working for the war!
We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills... we shall kick poo monsters buts, and they will surrender!

Oblio

[Clodhopper]

aight. I'm back in action. I didn't fall off the earth, just spent 16 days in the hospital. so glad to be back!