need info about the US education system, thanks

[squal]

HI

could you explain to me US education system?

here we have diferent kind of superior studdies,

for university, it s sthg like 20-25 h per week maybe 200 -500 students, you take note and have tests to the end, so a lot of people go there, yes after 5 years like post grad, a lot don t have job, coz it s too general, a lot of theoric it s like learn and learn.so high diploma +5 years.

other studdies are in high, it s like a college , class are like 25 students, 30 per weeks, it s like high school, with severals tests all the time, it s in 2 years with a possibility to extend in another year of specialisation, usually people with just 2 years are prefered by company rather than people from 5 years in university (just too theoric)

here in private school, communication visual school 3 years for a specialisation or 5 for a master, it s in a class , 25 students, with severals ""unit""28 h per week with a lot of work, tests all the time so like high school, works to give every class, like for visual communication, english, coloring, drawing, marketing, technology, civilization his, infography, drawing outside, modeling, creative drawing, 3 classes of creation.

like make a layout for nike in one,design a watch in another, and make a layout for and events,

in fact in creation, like 3 projects by creation classes, so 9 per year.

an US guy grad in marketing told me that he had 15 h per week, he told me that university was a big party.

are you in a junior college? how much do you pay per year? how many hours per week?

could you explain to me how much cost this kind of studdies in CA?what people do with that? what kind of job?

it can be hard to understand what I m asking sorry.
but if you have info or questions, feel free to ask.
tx

[Andoo45]

I think I understand what you're asking. In the us. there are three types of schools...

Community (Junior) College: 2 years - you specialize in one field, and get an "Assosciates Degree" Those 2 years are spent entirely specializing in one field, and there really aern't a lot of General Studies (History, Math, Science, etc...)

University: a State funded 4 year institution. They have almost 2 years of general studies, and then the last two years are spent on specializing in a "major" You earn a Bachelor's Degree. Then it's another two years to earn a Master's degree, and those years are spent super-specializing in your "major"

College: A private organization, almost exactly like a university, except it is much more expensive, and therefore there are less kids in there Partying all the time and fooling around. Colleges also offer Bachelor's and Master's degrees.

Doctorate Schools: Either Medical school or Law school usually. You either earn a Doctorate or a PHd. I'm not sure, if someone could help him out with this, I don't know much about school after Bachelor's degrees. :]

Most art schools are Colleges, because they don't offer 120-some majors like most universities. They focus on Art majors. However, most universities have art programs included in their 120-some majors. Since you are out of the country, Financially your best bet would be to go to a College, because Universities are only cheaper if you live in the state that's funding them. They have international and out of state tuition rates that are exceptionally higher than "in state tuition". For concept art, usually you want a degree in Illustration or something like that. They don't have a "Concept art Degree"

You just need to start looking at schools, and see which are offering the programs you're interested in. If you already have a degree in something else, you may only want to take an Associates program at a Junior college so that you just focus on the art.

If I missed anything or screwed something up, let me know. I'm not an expert on this sort of thing. :^^;:

[squal]

thanks a lot for your answer.

here is a link, http://www.ecole-maryse-eloy.com/
I not really looking for concept art coz here you go nowhere with that, doesn t really exist.
i d be more interested to work in AD, create ad, like conceptor redactor, here you have simply communication for that, but ad company prefer someone from visual communication, coz he can have an idea and directly make a layout.

here is a school, recognize by the state, really rare, other school are only private, give better educations sometimes, but the diploma is only from school and don t have value in the whole education thing.

i don t know how much would cost theses programs in CA, in LA or SAN DIEGO.

many thanks.

[Andoo45]

Usually for advertising your're looking for either Graphic Design or Graphic Communications. It depends on whether you want to make the ads, or come up with them I suppose. Think about the job you want, and then think about how you get there. I don't have much other advice that I can tell you. :D good luck with it all!

[sula_nebouxi]

If you're coming from a European university, I guarantee you that US schools are much much easier in comparison. It isn't even in the same league.

[danteort]

I think I understand what you're asking. In the us. there are three types of schools...

Community (Junior) College: 2 years - you specialize in one field, and get an "Assosciates Degree" Those 2 years are spent entirely specializing in one field, and there really aern't a lot of General Studies (History, Math, Science, etc...)

University: a State funded 4 year institution. They have almost 2 years of general studies, and then the last two years are spent on specializing in a "major" You earn a Bachelor's Degree. Then it's another two years to earn a Master's degree, and those years are spent super-specializing in your "major"

College: A private organization, almost exactly like a university, except it is much more expensive, and therefore there are less kids in there Partying all the time and fooling around. Colleges also offer Bachelor's and Master's degrees.

Doctorate Schools: Either Medical school or Law school usually. You either earn a Doctorate or a PHd. I'm not sure, if someone could help him out with this, I don't know much about school after Bachelor's degrees. :]
Almost. The difference between a University and a College here in the US is that a University is comprised of many "colleges." For example, a typical university will have a College of Arts and Sciences, a College of Business, College of Education, etc. And then each one is broken up into "schools." For example, at a typical university, if you're majoring in art, you'll be part of the College of Arts and Sciences, School of Fine Arts, Department of Art. The College of Arts and Sciences will have a dean; the School of Fine Arts will have a Director, and the Department of Art will have a Department Head/Chair.

And not all universities are state funded. Plenty of private universities exist, and they're plenty competetive.

Your definition of "Doctorate Schools" isn't quite right either. The MD and the JD (medical degree and law degree, respectively) are considered "Professional Degrees." These are earned at medical school and at law school, which are still part of a university or college. For example, University of California, Hastings College of Law; or, University of Illinois - Chicago, School of Medicine. There are certain requirements that must be met in order to gain admissions into medical school or law school (MCAT and LSAT, for starters).

After the undergraduate degree (BFA, BA, etc.) one can enter Graduate School at a college or university. Here they pursue a Masters degree (MFA, MM, etc.) and then, if they choose, a doctorate (Ph.D, DMA). Certain requirements must be met in order to earn these degrees.

One of the reasons that universities here in the US are typically "easier" than those in Europe, is that here your university education isn't supposed to stop at the undergraduate degree. If you want to "go somewhere" with your education, it's typical to go all the way through graduate school and even get the doctorate (if one is available in your course of study). So think of undergraduate school as simply a small stepping stone towards your "real" education.

[Andoo45]

ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for the info!

[squal]

thanks for your answer,

that s weird for me sorry.
US people are always talking about units, you take units.we have that too but ok.

I give you an exemple.
you want to studdy graphic design, or game design anyway, in University you ll have art , it s really far from the reality it s more learning art history,

if you want eat later with your "art", you ll have to go in a special school, art in a field of the real market.

so ok, if you do design art, for exemple, a concret one, you ll pay in the school,

8000$ per year, start the 09 september to the 23 june with somes weeks of vacations like xmas, ......
you ll have 28 h of classes per week, if you miss somes classes for whatever, it ll decrease your "professionalism attitute", in simple words, they ll say this personne isn t serious and ll be unable to work in any agency.

so units stay quite weird for me, sorry

take care
everyone