Political Forums: a growing list

[Sammy]

Sometimes there's stimulating, rewarding, and educational political debate ------ And sometimes there's an endless spiral of ambiguous time-consuming banter.....

If many of you are as politically opinionated as it seems -- If you are looking to truely become educated in debate, then here's a list of some political forums that specialize in your field --- I'm sure many of these sites, can give insight as to what educational direction you should head into with welcoming arms.

I make no claims to the quality of these forums -- seeing as to how I don't frequent any of them (I just found what I could) -- so if you can, please help to grow the list ... or if you are aware of any, offer alternative quality forums.

political crossfire (http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/)

liberalforum.org (http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?)

itsallpolitics.com (http://www.itsallpolitics.com/)

politicalforum.com (http://www.politicalforum.com/)

err ... some random one... (http://amazingforums.com/forum2/ASHEVILLE2/forum.html)

international political forum (http://s7.invisionfree.com/I_P_F/)

Please help to keep people focused on what ConceptArt.org is truely about.
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[SJ Bennighof]

Please help to keep people focused on what ConceptArt.org is truely about.
:traced: :traced:

Burn the heretic! :D

But yeah, I get you. No more debate for me until my skillz improve.

[Groover McNab]

Nice. Good stuff Sammy.

[pissant]

Internet Infidels forums (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/index.php)
Mostly religion-focussed, but decent quality stuff on a broad range of topics.

[brokk]

Good idea.

I apologize for forgetting this is an ART forum.

If we're gonna brawl... lets at least brawl over art, not politics.

[Ssenkrah Semaj]

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Post introductions, Talk with friends, ask general queries, anything goes!

I am new here so forgive me but I have a fundamental problem with an artistic forum that does not encourage freedom of expression, whether that is through art or words. Some of the greatest works of art were produced for a political statement. I believed the lounge area was an area to sit and talk, and have a flow of ideas, maybe get to know each other a little better.

This was taken from the end of the Facism thread, which by the way was created by an admin.

every one of you in this thread better have posted a crit. I dont want to start banning people who dont contribute positively to this art community. GIVE. I have posted 4 crits since the start of the facism thread and I hope to post my art as soon as I get it scanned.


when the first negative words were posted this thread should have been closed. I am going to do so now before any other tempers flare. Tempers did rise in the thread but they also fell, communication was winning not negativity. Politics are a very passionate topic and political beliefs have inspired some of the greatest createst creations in the art world. I fail to see how such an informative (for both sides of the spectrum) thread's passion could not be used to produce art?


if you want to express yourself politically on this website then do so artistically...put some art in the politics. Is this not the lounge area? What we discuss in the lounge area could fuel what we display in the areas designated for art. If every thread on this entire forum has to contain art then the Lounge forum should be done away with completely, because if the lounge isn't an area to sit and talk freely(which is its description) then it shouldn't exist.


you all wasted too much time in here already. back to work yo.


J
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Jason Manley I saw that thread as anything but a waste of time. Getting to know one another, taking a break from creating art to discuss what we are all passionate about, seems to me to be anything but a waste of time.

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Post introductions, Talk with friends, ask general queries, anything goes!

-Forgive me if I am wrong but that is the description for this forum is it not???????????????????????????????


It's been nice talking with you all I had hoped to post some of my artwork but will probably be getting banned.

And for the record Jason I am not trying to personally attack you dude, just posting an opinionated statement.

....Holla at a playa when you see me on the street

[brokk]

No, you're right, those are some very good crits, and this IS crit week.

If we got banned for this, things would seem very surreal.

Jason learn to take a crit!!!!
(j/k)

[EvilMidnightBomber]

well said Broken spirit. I agree

[N D Hill]

Though I don't agree entirely with Jason, I agree that we need to get back on track and not lose our focus of why we are ultimately here at CONCEPTART.org. I'm not accusing anyone since I'm just as guilty. I know how hard it is to sit down to contribute art or thoughtfull critiques after a 10-12 hour day of classes and work but Jason's right. If you're mainly looking to ammuse yourself or get drawn into a political back-and-forth, there are places that are better suited for that. I will not go as far, however, to say that they do not have a place here. As Ssenkrah Semaj said, it can be very though evoking which is a good thing. But we need to be artists first and arm-chair know-it-alls second.

[SJ Bennighof]

Yeah, in the time I was debating--while the evolution one in paticular was very, heh, enlightening--I could have done about half of the sutdies in a Loomis book. And while how I use my time is ultimately my affair, I need to get get on the artistic track anyway, so I'm not complaining.

[EvilMidnightBomber]

Though I don't agree entirely with Jason, I agree that we need to get back on track and not lose our focus of why we are ultimately here at CONCEPTART.org. If you're mainly looking to ammuse yourself or get drawn into a political back-and-forth, there are places that are better suited for that.

Before the Facism thread was closed dude it was the only political thread on the entire first page of the Lounge forum. The lounge was not turning into a political [EDIT: or religious] forum despite many peoples fears.

[N D Hill]

sorry, but 16 posts hardly qualifies as one with your finger on the pulse here. We have a long history of "evolution vs creation," "bush sucks," "Fahrenheit 911" and other divisive threads that reach 7 or 8 pages yet manage to go absolutely nowhere nor change anyone's mind. There's potential for dialog or at least informative discussion but after the first 5 or 6 initial posts, it all becomes posturing and arguments that really say nothing more than "I'm right, you're wrong". It doesn't matter if we only have one or two at a time on the front page, check the number of replies, or better yet, look at the bottom of the page to see how many people are watching that one thread like hawks.

[EvilMidnightBomber]

uhm ouch

and

We have a long history of "evolution vs creation," "bush sucks," "Fahrenheit 911" and other divisive threads that reach 7 or 8 pages yet manage to go absolutely nowhere nor change anyone's mind. There's potential for dialog or at least informative discussion but after the first 5 or 6 initial posts, it all becomes posturing and arguments that really say nothing more than "I'm right, you're wrong".

I would like to point out:


Okay, guys, I've looked things over, and--for now at least, I've got nothing to say to it. So...barring any random bursts of intuition or other information or something, I concede. Good debating, everyone.

I'm not saying that I now believe that we evolved from a lower form of life, but I am saying that Evolution can and has been proven, barring further scientific discoveries that may change the paradigm. I'm holding out for that, but my logic now sides with you guys.

as well as


Well someone posed that idea to me once and I thought it made sense....I was wrong. Gotta stop listening to the potheads next to me. Also free healthcare for everyone would save so many lives.

and


hey man, I just wanna say it's awesome that you admitted defeat on a point, and conceeded that you were wrong, that kind of thing is commendable in political discussion. It also shows a good level of intelligence.

[brokk]

Some topics can be very controversial.

Maybe we could have sub-seccions in the lounge called "calm and mellow", another one called "controversy", another one called "you wanna piece of me?" and another one called "EVERYONE vs EVERYONE"

No but seriously, maybe you could make a sub-seccion just for discussing hot topics, that way if you wanna piece of somebody at least you know where the riot is at.

[N D Hill]

EvilMidnightBomber: would you like me to start picking out examples to support my case? Or maybe we should both go draw or something.

[SJ Bennighof]

We have a long history of "evolution vs creation," "bush sucks," "Fahrenheit 911" and other divisive threads that reach 7 or 8 pages yet manage to go absolutely nowhere nor change anyone's mind.

Well, I think he was just disproving that statement there, but let's not, of course, get into a debate, and just go draw like you said.

/me shuts up and draws Loomis

[EvilMidnightBomber]

Exo-I'm at work, I can do stuff online but drawing is out of the question until I get off. And of course there are more examples of back and forth conversing than conceeding on points. But the simple fact that there are moments when people can realize another side of an argument makes all of that back and forth conversing worth it. This is the lounge too...anything goes! :)

[Jason Manley]

if you want to fight...this is not the forum for it. the political threads always inspire fighting and make people mad at each other. When people are threatening to leave the forums...people who have been here for a long time...then that is when I know there is a problem.

discuss whatever you like...fighting however, will not be tolerated.

jason

[Keepiru]

Sammy and Jason M. are right folks, there is a place for political discussion, and CA.org is not it. We are ultimately here to build a community of artists and to help one another out in our development, and bringing up such lightining-rod topics as politics, religion, or whatever...will only lead to people in the wrong direction. If you really have a burning issue with another member, there are plenty of ways to tell them without getting the rest of us involved (private messages, for example, and e-mails are usually listed under member profiles). But it really should not be a problem to begin with, because most CA folks dont come here to discuss such topics or pick fights. So if politics is on your mind check out the forums suggested by Sammy in his first post.

-Keeps

[Prometheus|ANJ]

Here's a fun link (http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/index.php). Which flame warrior are you?

Here's an evolutionist versus creationist forum (http://www.evcforum.net/) I found when doing research.


Personally I don't mind these kind of off topic discussions. Off topic is how you develop. If you stick to just one monotous source of inspiration you'll get... flat. I learned the other that the flagellum (http://www.aip.org/png/2002/174.htm) (bacteria) actually has an nano sized proton or ion-powered rotary motor (which was relevant to some 'ID' discussion). Made my mind boggle.

[LaPalida]

When people are threatening to leave the forums...people who have been here for a long time...then that is when I know there is a problem.

If you mean stalecracker... that was sooo thin skinned. He just had a temper tantrum. It's really weird too, no one picked on him at all in fact. He just suddenly got mad at Android for posting the "american fascism propaganda" in the middle of the thread and left in a huff. I thought it was funny and stupid. What artists aren't allowed to have opinions? Maybe these forums are making people show their true colors? Isn't that a good thing? Anyway that's just like my opinion man. Don't have a cow.

[darth massacre]

Errrm....politics and religion aside.....


Most of the other topics are already covered under various different sections in this huge forum. So maybe the Lounge is obsolete?

I won't deny the important fact that running and maintaining a friendly, informative forum is a very difficult job. But its not going to be easy to guide in a direction we would like it to go. The Lounge area for a lot of different forums I go on to always seem to have a life of its own.

I'm sure there'll be some peace and quiet for a while....until some noob joins and starts another political thread that'll send the place into a frenzy again.

[bRyaN]

These threads make for a entertaining read while at work...it makes the day go by that much quicker....

But what i really want to know is how are Ron's DVDs comin along???

[Ssenkrah Semaj]

discuss whatever you like

Will do and thank you.


...fighting however, will not be tolerated.

jason

.....understood and agreed.

Though I hope by fighting you understand there is a difference between fighting and a passionate discussion and end only the threads that have the former and not the latter.

[Scubasteve]

Exo is right on the money. It becomes very pointless, I won't respond to any more political or religous threads. But lounge does kind of mean to waste time, so have at it.