My Space Opera Prt1

[Azathoth]

A late night creation of mine ..I did a quick render on simple geometry
of the face then did my thing in photoshop. I think
it looks good but would like constructive feed back,thnks
One Day the clouds will part and there will be pro work for me ..... :dead:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/SpiderofLeng/Face_MIsciFi_02.jpg

[Zaknafain]

There are to many filters used here. Try to paint more, it will increase the quality of your pictures.

[Thunder Blossom]

Yeah - filters = a no-no. Expecially lens flare >.>

I guess once you get into the professional world, companies want to see what you create, not what Photoshop filters can create~

[Azathoth]

Like my description says it was a late night like 3am...
But try giving an overall critique ....Believe it or not
Few filters were used besides the quick lens flare.
It was my painting on some simple geo.. then rendered and painted
on some more. I Know it is just a start(not great by any means)
but try being more open minded. I just love how some people
never post any work and just love to crit others....
There is no place for Egos and Snobbery in the real world...not mine
Also believe it or not filters are used in the pro world all the time as
part a whole look and feel. anyway enough venting thnks.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/SpiderofLeng/Pllncw-Fce_01.jpg

[Skulldog]

The second post is much better than the first, I held off saying anything about the first one, since I figure enough people would point out that weither or not you USED filiters, the works does look like it was made with the aid of filters.

For the second picture, I like where it's going, but it still could bit e pushed more. Don't avoid drawing eyes, you could add so much more expression with some hints of reflected light on the eyes here. The upper lip is a bit odd, I see no definition of a raises area but lots of shadow from the nose. I'd toned that shadow down a little, it's starting to look like a cat's muzzle.

[Azathoth]

Thanks Skull dog.... That is what I mean about constructive crits....
This was the first sketch and by no means finished....
People just have to be open to all styles and looks the cat muzzle is
kind of were I was going and for filters don't get me started.
"It takes all kinds bringing everything to the table to get a full
meal deal"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/SpiderofLeng/Psionic_Head_01.jpg

[Zaknafain]

Sorry I didn't want to offend you with my first post. It's just hard to critic filtered images.

Aside from anatomical issues (which will be solved best with refferenced studies) you should try becoming more confident with your brushstrokes. Try painting with higher opacities, it will improve the look of your paintings.
Also your contrast is to low. (high contrast proves often as unrealistic, its important for the look of your painting though).

The skincolor is also strange. It looks like the lightsource was a blue yellow one. blue and yellow are true complementarys so this causes some "unatural" colorvariations on the face. (If you wonder what complementarys are, look at: http://www.epilogue.net/art/tech/socar_color/ )

[Azathoth]

There was no real offence taken I just wanted an honest crit..
Thanks for the second thoughts.. :teeth:

[USER777]

There is no place for Egos and Snobbery in the real world...not mine
Also believe it or not filters are used in the pro world all the time as
part a whole look and feel. anyway enough venting thnks.


i really dont think so. you can do everything with real paint that you can do with filters, so if you're good enought at what you do you really dont need any (or very little) filter work in your digital works.
regarding your work: the first and third one you posted are so abusively overfiltered (or at least look so) that i cant really tell whats supposed to be going on. the second one is a nice start. but the colors totally destroy it for me. try to work only with pencil and from real life for some time, it will help you very much.

[cthomp]

it would be intresting to see that last one you posted on a black background

[theincredibleandy]

I'm not sure what you're going for on the last one. It doesn't really communicate anything to me. I dunno. As for filter use, it's valid to say that the gratuitous filtering gets in the way of the art. At some point a piece can become more about the filters than the artist. Also, many filters are cheap shortcuts, and to a trained eye there's an obvious difference. Use 'em all you want, but just make sure you, not the filter, is doing the work. I guess that's what it comes down to.

As for your first 2 pieces, the first one is a head floating in the exact middle of the page with no overall compositional flow. The red pattern in the background, the lens flare, the shiny in his eye, and head all kind of compete with each other instead of make a combined statement. I think it IS a valid statement to say that filters are getting in the way of this piece, mainly because they're not working together. Alas.

The second one is much nicer, though (not just cause there's more painting.) Some nice color usage in the face. I don't know about the whole shallow space thing because it reminds of cliche goth art, but don't let me stop you. Nice color, decent texture (except for the scribbly-looking things in the hair. Just seems out of place for no good reason).

Keep doing more art.

[Azathoth]

I know it is not a great thing but i'm moving on .
As for the filter issue they are and will be used in the real world,
just pick up a magazine , and you will see them. I know there is a fine
line and lazily I crossed it just to post something thanks for the honest
crits though. >:D