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Fusion
February 15th, 2005, 06:49 PM
What is your most hated/disliked/unfavoured art medium and why?

I'm not a big fan of colored pencils (any kind). Mainly because I can never get the color that I want and if i do its because I had to buy an enormous set. And the only time you can mix is if you press the shit out of it. Plus the texture is everywhere, and it can't be helped. Not to mention the fact that I'm completely terrible with them.

oh oh oh, and crayons. Very difficult (and uneffective) when life drawing.

itchy_tasty
February 15th, 2005, 07:03 PM
i really hate oil pastels, i hate touching them. they are all greesy and...
i just plain dont like em.

nicolas
February 15th, 2005, 07:04 PM
hmm, thats a tough one...Lithography! I like evrything except lithography....gotta keep the stone wet, gotta keep the stone wet....quickly roll on the ink, through the press....aaaahhhhh the stone is almost dry....

yeah, not for me thank you. One semester is enough.

Intaglio on the other hand....or even better, Monotypes....ah, nevermind

klinesmoker
February 15th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I'd have to say color pencils. Maybe I just suck, but they never mix appropriately. Another medium? I'd say acrylics... Not enough blend there either. Then again, I have little painting skill, so.....

bracomadar
February 15th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Yeah, any printing just seems stupid to me and I hate it too. 100 years ago it seemed useful, but now, WE GOT PRINTERS!!!! AHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! The thing I hate the most is using a potter's wheel to turn pots. Some may find it soothing, but I find it wet and messy and I don't like the way I have to sit on the things. Sculpting isn't bad, I like sculpting, but I hate turning a pot on those things. I also don’t like wire sculpting that much b/c the wire cuts the crap out of me and I nearly put my eye out every time I do something with it :pirate: (even just making an armature for a sculpture).

MuffinMan
February 15th, 2005, 08:15 PM
i HATE clay...fuck that drying mudy material. if i were to sculpt something, i would be smart enough to ignore clay and use modeling epoxy, super sculpey, or anything else that is better than clay. it is a huge pain in the ass to keep the clay moist, it is damn impossible to keep the clay moist with out ruining your awesome detail on your sculpter. also like bracomadar said...turning pots on a wheel sucks...sometimes i go to fast and totally annihlate my awesome pot. geez, bisqueware and greenware clay is t3h shite.

Fusion
February 15th, 2005, 08:43 PM
hah! yeah, I dropped print for sculpture because hell, if I wanted to print something I'll just load up photoshop and hit print. . . .bing bang boom. . thats how its done. All the intaglio and relief. . . .2 words people. . . .bas relief. Get to know plugins and get rid of printmaking ;)

jk, i should take it though. . . couple months of printmaking wouldn't hurt that much :[

nicolas
February 15th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Actually printmaking is really cool (except for litho). Take it, you'll never get a thinner line than in Intaglio....the crosshatching possibilities are endless...

But Monotypes take the prize....

rev
February 15th, 2005, 11:20 PM
i must be a freak i love litho :( i even like to do color ones with multiple stones which is a super big pain i the ass :P

darth massacre
February 16th, 2005, 01:11 AM
Oil paints. They stink, they're hazardous and they take forever to dry.




But at the same time nothing looks or feels quite like an oil painting.

Deco
February 16th, 2005, 07:01 AM
colored pencils as well :rolleyes:
I can never get dense color, all my attempts were looking like
kiddy's drawings :P

brokk
February 16th, 2005, 07:23 AM
Most hated medium?

Thats easy... Photoshop and Painter, because when they crash and I didn't save what I was doing they make me wanna smash my computer!

nicolas
February 16th, 2005, 08:01 AM
I dont understand why you guys dont like pencil crayons?! In combination with "wet" media (watercolor/gouche) they rock!!! I think its nonsense to exclusively use one medium on its own....when mixed they can be way more affected, since alot of media have their advantages/disadvantages...

anyway.....


@rev - yeah. you're a freak!!! /m\ multicolored lithos?! :x kiddin' dude...whatever makes ya happy.

Crawley
February 16th, 2005, 09:10 AM
i hated chalk pastels. inhaling the dust while i worked gave me a headache, though i loved working on the colored pastel paper.

thebluepuppy
February 16th, 2005, 10:20 AM
i would have to say....acrylic.

rothgar
February 16th, 2005, 10:48 AM
It must have been all the chemical fumes, but I got retarded over litho. If you have a problem keeping it wet, recruit a buddy to sponge for you while you roll up. You really do get faster with experience though and won't need anyone before too long. I did litho on a goof during my second fish semester and wound up doing litho every semester thereafter. There are some prints I wish I still had but I wound up selling most of the editions and I lost my artists proofs to a public storage fuckup that I regret to this day.

My pet peeve is definately found art. I never could see what the use was gluing some shit together and calling it a piece of art.

jester
February 16th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Just one word: crayons!

Jester

cucaracha
February 16th, 2005, 05:36 PM
thick pencils on rough paper!

but currently - drawing with my tablet, I just don't get a line quality that equals to my traditional drawing results.

dfacto
February 16th, 2005, 05:39 PM
I loathe tempera. >:{

flex mathews
February 16th, 2005, 06:39 PM
hmm, thats a tough one...Lithography!


i m with rev. i love lithography. its kinda complicated in the beginning and you'll ruin alot of good drawings but once you get the hang of it its great. i know what you mean about the stones.. they re a bitch, especially when they re big. thats why i use plates.

Chяis
February 16th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Yeah I exceptionally don't like Oil pastels, just the greasy feeling. >:{

theincredibleandy
February 16th, 2005, 07:05 PM
oh, so many to choose from...gouache, oil pastels, chalk pastels, tempera...I'd say water-soluble oils. It seemed like it only had 2 consistencies: super thick or super thin, and it was a nightmare to control. The one painting I did with it was total ass, but I sold it and those people later commissioned me for a $1000 painting. All because of that horrendous water-soluble oil painting. Wait...

Like I said, water-soluble oils are awesome.

JoshuaTheJames
February 16th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Poop. Most so called Fine Artists use it faithfully. :tihi: :right: :} :right: :teeth:

-JtJ

M.C.Barrett
February 17th, 2005, 01:08 AM
All the reasons for which people claim to love acrylic paint are precisely the reasons I loathe it. It dries too fast. It kills brushes. It won't blend. It doesn't smell.
I love oils. I love the time it gives me to gently nudge the painting to where I want it to go. I love how easy it is to clean the brushes. I love the soft, subtle blending characteristics. I love the fact that it smells- creating the piece becomes a more sensorially complete experience.

Honestly, I think acrylics are a vast conspiracy to sell paintbrushes and oil-mimicing additives.

Oh, and I also hate colored pencils. They're best relegated to middle-school geography supply kits.

Bennett
February 17th, 2005, 08:19 AM
I agree w/ most on the oil pastels, they suck and I can never get the desired effect. I also bought a set of watercolor pencils some time ago and I find myself completely frustrated and wishing I was using real watercolor when using them.

I used to airbrush, and loved it, but changing and mixing the colors was a pain, forcing me to forget the medium. I could only enjoy it if I had about4 or 5 airbrushes running at once.

Zaknafain
February 17th, 2005, 10:55 AM
I hate acrylics. Its mostly the fact that they dry too fast (what stresses me while painting). They won't blend and they produce crappy textures.

Elwell
February 17th, 2005, 11:19 AM
As a teacher, I would like to beg all current and future art students, please, don't use oil pastels! Especially those cheap twelve color sets of Cray-Pas that everyone seems to have (although exactly how is a mystery, as no one ever actually buys them). In over ten years of teaching I've had exactly one (1) student who could do anything worthwhile with them, and that's only because he had a very broad, psuedo-German expressionist style.

Just say no. You'd be better off with a box of Crayolas from the drug store.

egerie
February 17th, 2005, 11:20 AM
Oil pastels too. It's not from touching them or anything is that I find them too crude for me. It takes so much effort to make something look good that I'd rather stick to another medium like dry pastels or something.
The only time I could use them was when I melted the shit out of them on and off canvas with mineral oil.
Brain cells count / 2 weeh !

|NTeRN
February 17th, 2005, 12:50 PM
digital media. i hate that you dont get messy, you dont touch the piece and it just seems like its cheating. i do use it i just would rather paint or draw.


how is oil easy to clean up?

M.C.Barrett
February 17th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Oil is easy to clean up because they're actually soluble after they "dry". You don't have to rush to save your brushes if you stop painting for 5 minutes. You can wipe your pallette clean with some thinner and paper towels. With acrylic, you've gotta get out the scraper.

HugeHarHar
February 17th, 2005, 07:52 PM
I hate oil paints and all forms of sculpting.

I actually really like oil pastels, chalk pastels, acrylics, and colored pencils. So uh....

-Elwell - i guess I got lucky my art teacher has some really awesome brands of oil pastels.

Main Loop
February 17th, 2005, 07:57 PM
haha.. i must be the only one that likes oil pastels.. they gotta be used on the right surface though, and it lends itself only to certain styles.. if you like the look of thick oil paint but dont really like to use oil paint, try the pastels.. the biggest drawback to them is the same as any pastels, the art is too easily damageable.. the good ones are also a bit expensive, like 3 bucks a stick, but in reality you dont need too many different colors, its basically oil paint in a stick.. you only need about 10-12 different oil paint colors, same as pastels..

i cant say i have a most disliked art medium.. i can find a good use for everything..

Main Loop
February 17th, 2005, 07:59 PM
As a teacher, I would like to beg all current and future art students, please, don't use oil pastels! Especially those cheap twelve color sets of Cray-Pas that everyone seems to have (although exactly how is a mystery, as no one ever actually buys them). In over ten years of teaching I've had exactly one (1) student who could do anything worthwhile with them, and that's only because he had a very broad, psuedo-German expressionist style.

Just say no. You'd be better off with a box of Crayolas from the drug store.

ah but you're using the cheapo ones.. try some senneliers or some good brands.. you might be singing a different tune afterwards..

LaPalida
February 17th, 2005, 08:00 PM
I'd have to say elephant poo ... it stinks :\ ...har har

But seriously I don't have any (except the above mentioned), I like to experiment (except with the above mentioned).

MuffinMan
February 17th, 2005, 08:27 PM
Poop. Most so called Fine Artists use it faithfully. :tihi: :right: :} :right: :teeth:

-JtJ

that made my day. :)

klinesmoker
February 17th, 2005, 08:57 PM
HAHA Muffin, I might have to laugh in agreement.

cthomp
February 17th, 2005, 09:32 PM
Poop. Most so called Fine Artists use it faithfully. :tihi: :right: :} :right: :teeth:

-JtJ
Didnt some one actualy do that once. Well i would have to say to crayola crayons, i dint like them in grade school. Or that paint they give you, what kinda paint is that anyway. lol i dont like those kinds of mediums.

bat
February 18th, 2005, 04:57 AM
Digital. It seems totally emotionless to me. There is nothing there, give me a brush, a pen, marker, airbrush, I am happy, but digital is nothing to me.

MuffinMan
February 18th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Digital. It seems totally emotionless to me. There is nothing there, give me a brush, a pen, marker, airbrush, I am happy, but digital is nothing to me.

do you get emotional when you paint?
if so, sounds like a mental disorder... :\

cotron
February 18th, 2005, 02:24 PM
do you get emotional when you paint?
if so, sounds like a mental disorder... :\

because art and emotion aren't related....

MuffinMan
February 18th, 2005, 02:43 PM
because art and emotion aren't related....

well, they can be, depending on the art.

bat
February 18th, 2005, 02:53 PM
I meant that I don't really get moved by digital work from a lot of artists and I don't see much into it. Yes, there is skill and ability, I would not belittle the skills of others, and I have seen a digital work that is very well done, but I personally just prefer the texture, the feel and the "life" given to works in traditional mediums. I was just answering the question posed about my most disliked art medium, wasn't that the point of the thread? :\