I hate Aliens Vs. Predator

[oracrest]

WARNING: rant ahead

The low point of last year had to be, without a doubt, going to see Aliens Vs. Predator. I must preface this post by saying that I am a big Alien and Predator fan, and consider them to be good solid (if not always deeply philosophical) science fiction.

If you haven't seen this, dont. Of course you still will, because you like the Aliens and Predator movies, and figure at best, it will at least be entertaing in a bad way. Not true. this was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. period. Almost up there with Mission to Mars (which should have been called "2000: the year we rip off 2001, brought to you by Dr. Pepper"), and Deep Blue Sea.

OK, I would say there are some spoilers ahead, but due to the fact that im giving away the plot of this horrible movie so that others dont have to see it, I wouldnt say im "spoiling" anything. Rather, take that extra two hours of your life you have by not seeing this and do something positive with it.

The movie begins as someone, for some reason, discovers a temple buried in Antarctica. Right off the bat, Aliens, buried in Antarctica, not the most original of Sci Fi movies, but anyway....

A group of attractive young "specialists" of one form or another go to the site to check it out. they get there, and manage to get inside the temple

* insert one hour of boring dialogue involving characters you dont really care that much for, searching through some stupid undergroudn temple, and the occasional 2 minute shot of a predator. Oh and by the way, these predators wrist blades come out TWICE AS FAR as other predators. Cool huh?? *

At one point, this temple comes alive, conveyor belts start moving inside, giant blast furnace type things. Oh, and this temple is on ANTARCTICA, and incorporates EGYPTIAN, INCAN, and some other cultures architectural elements, which (as the characters in the movie hypothesise) must be a link to an even earlier civilization. OK these civilizations existed thousands of years apart from each other. Ford didn't innovate assembly line production until the early 20th century. Already this "Ancient Temple" incorporates elements that are so historically inconsistent that I can't take anything about the movie seriously. And on top of that, it's on Antarctica. I guess the writer heard once that dinosaur bones were discovered on Antarctica, and figured why not an ancient temple. Even if it was predating the Egyptians by a few thousand years, Im pretty sure on a global scale Antarctica was just what it is today thousands of years ago, a cold barren desert. Or maybe the director has seen "The Thing" one too many times.

The raping of the franchise continues!......

Ok, remember that really cool scene in the trailer of all the aliens storming the temple, and the lone group of predators hopelessly fighting them off? Yeah? Looked cool didn't it? Well, if youve seen the trailer, youve seen the only good shot in the whole movie. I, like everyone who saw that trailer, expceted that to be a quick shot of a much longer sequence in the movie. But nope, it was just a two second flashback. No doubt put into the movie, so they could put in the trailer, so people like me would go see it. Good ole fashion american marketing at it's finest! they did this in Terminator 3 as well, if you remember the really cool scene in the trailer of the blistered future landscape, with all the t-800's walking across the shot, but when you actually go to the movie, its just a two second dream the main character has. >:{ >:{

So anyway, the movie goes on, everyone dies except for the whiny goody two shoes main character who I was praying would be the first to bite the bucket the whole painful two hours.

Not to mention that nothing new was provided in terms of the predators or aliens. Every shot they were in was obviously just a shameless rip off of a previous movie, right down to the end, where a bunch of predators appear, and give "respect" to the main character.

so yeah, this movie sucks, is Paul WS Anderson's dad the president of some hollywood company or something? Who keeps giving movies to this guy? His level of suck is approaching Jerry Bruckheimer........

[cthomp]

You make some good points there. I thought the movie was ok. There were things i didnt like. The slow motion was not for that movie, chick and predator teaming up, takes place in present time. What was also with that neon blood? My segestion only see it if you like the originals alot and dont set your hopes too high. But its succes did bring up the rumor of Alien 5 written by James Cameron and Directed by Ridley Scott. That was the rumor i read and that would be super tight.

[oracrest]

You make some good points there. I thought the movie was ok. There were things i didnt like. The slow motion was not for that movie, chick and predator teaming up, takes place in present time. What was also with that neon blood? My segestion only see it if you like the originals alot and dont set your hopes too high. But its succes did bring up the rumor of Alien 5 written by James Cameron and Directed by Ridley Scott. That was the rumor i read and that would be super tight.

Another Cameron sci fi film would be good, but only if it was that "good write/director making a good film" situation, not "good writer/director past his prime" sort of thing. So far I would say Cameron is the best at quality science fiction. Terminator, t2, aliens, abyss, they were all pretty decent.

I had a hard time getting into the dark angel show. Watched a few, and it felt like cameron was deliberately trying to go for the MTV generation market with it.

[oracrest]

I should also add that much like Terminator 3, I always had an idea since I was little that the best Aliens Vs. Predator movie would involve Aliens and Predators battling somewhere in space, with no people in it. Not as a blatant two hour action sequence, but almost as if you were watching a foreign film. Possibly text on teh screen to translate the alien language, and really explore the idea of an adventure in space that doesn't have people involved in it. I think that as a story arch would be vastly more interesting. Not to mention that it would explore things that havent been done in a movie before (or at least that much, dark crystal didn't have any humans, and that was interesting enough.) Maybe even delve into the time travelling technology of the predator....

[Joseph Kerr]

Eh?......

..conveyor belts start moving inside, giant blast furnace type things. Ford didn't innovate assembly line production until the early 20th century. Already this "Ancient Temple" incorporates elements that are so historically inconsistent that I can't take anything about the movie seriously.

I dont see how Ford has anything to do with this. An alien culture comes down, teaches the lesser cultures some cool building tricks, and you hate it to see that they incorporated an assembly line type deal in it? Lets see...capability of space travel, not to mention cloaking and whatnot..want a good way to increase the flow of eggs..yup, shoulda stuck with the good'ol fashion catapult, wait, that would have been too advanced huh? Alright..i know, we'll have dogs carry them around. Sounds good to me.

I'm not even gunna go into the historical stuff, not my fortay. Was a bit bewildered how the guys could translate it so fast.

Nothing new was provided in terms of the predators or aliens.

What about the Shuriken Smart Disk thing? That not new? Hmm, the invisible noose trick, that was new. As for the Aliens, yea...same old same old.

Every shot they were in was obviously just a shameless rip off of a previous movie, right down to the end, where a bunch of predators appear, and give "respect" to the main character.

How? I dont see how that rips it off...a culture that prides skills in combat and such, and your angry because they do what they normally do? Award a trophy to those those that show such skills? Yea. Ok.

Maybe even delve into the time travelling technology of the predator....

The what? I havent read any comics and the such...wouldn't know much about this. Care to explain? Btw, if your refering to the part where Danny Glover get's the pistol from the elder pred, that wasn't time travel, that was from his experience's during that era. I think i read somewhere they have a decent life span to justify that. If not...then eh.

Only things that bugged me about the movie is how fast the pred's went down, and how stupid they where. Even if it was for the unblooded to become blooded, they seemed a little ignorant of what to expect.

Eh...so yea, if you have any gripes, please respond. Hopefully that helped, i didn't mean to sound arrogant or anything...just thought i'd add my two cents.

[oracrest]

Eh?......



I dont see how Ford has anything to do with this. An alien culture comes down, teaches the lesser cultures some cool building tricks, and you hate it to see that they incorporated an assembly line type deal in it? Lets see...capability of space travel, not to mention cloaking and whatnot..want a good way to increase the flow of eggs..yup, shoulda stuck with the good'ol fashion catapult, wait, that would have been too advanced huh? Alright..i know, we'll have dogs carry them around. Sounds good to me.

I'm not even gunna go into the historical stuff, not my fortay. Was a bit bewildered how the guys could translate it so fast.



What about the Shuriken Smart Disk thing? That not new? Hmm, the invisible noose trick, that was new. As for the Aliens, yea...same old same old.



How? I dont see how that rips it off...a culture that prides skills in combat and such, and your angry because they do what they normally do? Award a trophy to those those that show such skills? Yea. Ok.



The what? I havent read any comics and the such...wouldn't know much about this. Care to explain? Btw, if your refering to the part where Danny Glover get's the pistol from the elder pred, that wasn't time travel, that was from his experience's during that era. I think i read somewhere they have a decent life span to justify that. If not...then eh.

Only things that bugged me about the movie is how fast the pred's went down, and how stupid they where. Even if it was for the unblooded to become blooded, they seemed a little ignorant of what to expect.

Eh...so yea, if you have any gripes, please respond. Hopefully that helped, i didn't mean to sound arrogant or anything...just thought i'd add my two cents.

Have you seen Predator 2? A lot of these elements, like the thrown disc, and a lot of other technological treats of the predators were seen there. I am pretty sure that they established that the predators were time travellers as well. I could be wrong, but I remember danny glovers characters whispering that to himself at the end of the movie. Wasn't there also a dinosaur skull in their trophy room? It wouldnt have bothered me if this scene wasnt already done with the predators. in several comics, and more commonly known in the second predator movie, you have the group of predators phasing into sight, the main character scared that he/she is going to die, then the predators showing respect. nothing new. At least in the Predator 2 danny Glover had a decent final battle with the predator. In this the stupid main woman does the most impossible things, like whack the most enormous queen alien into a building with a stick. so now on top of lack of decent character interaction (drama), uninspired fight scenes, obviously unresearched historical references, and just a plain boring story, there is a lack of understanding of basic physics.

I don't remember specifically how the scenes ripped off the other movies, just that that's what i was thinking in the theater. The fight scenes were uninspired, like he took some choreography from a martial arts movie and made the people wear some alien costumes. there was the one scene where the predator slices into the head of the alien on the wall, and they both are completely still for a few seconds, then the top half of the aliens head slides perfectly off. this is a mechanic that works well in an anime movie, but looks stupid in a live action film. And what was up with the predators dropping like flies in this movie??

[N D Hill]

Leading experts in astrophysics believe that not even light can escape Paul Anderson's sucking.

Studio execs who hire Paul Anderson should immediately be whacked on the nose by a newspaper and given a firm "no."

Paul Anderson chose career in film making despite his high school guidance councilor's suggestions that he should study to become a backyard wrestling referee.

Paul Anderson sucks so much that he's made to wear an eartag and radio collar so he can be monitored at all times by those you whose job it is to prevent him from entering our habitat.

If one were to do a google search for the exact phrase "Paul Anderson" they would get 16,722,926 returns. If one were to do a google search for the word "suck" they would get 16,722,926 returns.

After Paul Anderson makes an accident indoors (or other words make a "film") his nose should promptly be rubbed in it. Again, do this along with a firm "no."

Astronauts, in honor of Paul Anderson, have stopped refering to the cold empy vacuum of space as such, and have started refering to it as the “Paul Anderson of space.”

[MuffinMan]

geez, i liked the movie...

[oracrest]

Leading experts in astrophysics believe that not even light can escape Paul Anderson's sucking.

Studio execs who hire Paul Anderson should immediately be whacked on the nose by a newspaper and given a firm "no."

Paul Anderson chose career in film making despite his high school guidance councilor's suggestions that he should study to become a backyard wrestling referee.

Paul Anderson sucks so much that he's made to wear an eartag and radio collar so he can be monitored at all times by those you whose job it is to prevent him from entering our habitat.

If one were to do a google search for the exact phrase "Paul Anderson" they would get 16,722,926 returns. If one were to do a google search for the word "suck" they would get 16,722,926 returns.

After Paul Anderson makes an accident indoors (or other words make a "film") his nose should promptly be rubbed in it. Again, do this along with a firm "no."

Astronauts, in honor of Paul Anderson, have stopped refering to the cold empy vacuum of space as such, and have started refering to it as the “Paul Anderson of space.”

haha, that is some great shit man! LMAO you should make a thread of that called "I hate Paul Anderson"

[Black Jesus]

yeah... this was a pretty damn horrible movie. i was not expecting it to be this bad. i sat there with my mouth open in disbelief when the girl teamed up with the predator. my god that was just lame. and the part where they ride up to the surface together on that sled... man...

[Sammy]

SWEEET! the lynch mob is banding together for Paul's bludgeoning ......


it has been a long time comming ...



Tune in next week for Uwe Boll

[Prometheus|ANJ]

I rented it the other day.

I thought it was... I dunno, I'm used to ignoring sequels. Alien and Aliens are the only 'real' alien movies.

I enjoyed AVP for what it was. There's no way I can take a movie like that seriously.

Here's the + and -


+ I liked the chick.
+ I liked parts of the ending. The only wow part I got from the movie was when the predator makes a cool jump and nails the queens head (when the girl is hiding under the water cistern). He sort of comes swooching into the view like a comic hero. The queen crashing through the whalebones could've worked too... if it wasn't for the context.


- The spear and shield thing was so corny I nearly turned off the movie.
- The whole ancient temple and predators+aliens on earth thing... not cool.
- The mid part of the movie was just random clips. Non sequitur. A lot of stuff being planted or suggested, and not being followed up on.
- Predators looked like they hired retarded wrestling actors.



I wish they made another MoonTrap... it had potential atleast.

[thebob]

i was a bit shoked at how much the aliens wtfpwned the predators in this. i always got the impression the predators were the leet fighting machines and aliens were just overwhelming in numbers. i think the aliens were fine in this but the predators were seriously fat dumasses, like they have the reactions to shoot and dodge a leaping alien from beind but not to takle one thats blatantly infront of him thats been rammed thru a few solid concrete walls and squished in a net :S
....and now paul anderson is threating us with avp2 :dead:

[cthomp]

I rented it the other day.

I thought it was... I dunno, I'm used to ignoring sequels. Alien and Aliens are the only 'real' alien movies.

Come on Alien 3 was good. It didnt have the guns and stuff like Aliens but it was scary. I atleast enjoyed it.

[N D Hill]

Come on Alien 3 was good. It didnt have the guns and stuff like Aliens but it was scary. I atleast enjoyed it.

Alien 3 was weak as a proper sequel but it was a pretty decent flick. The special edition that was released with the Alien Quadrilogy more than makes up for any of it's faults. I do think however, that it would've been much better if they had stuck to Vincent Ward's original script and kept the new creature designs that Giger had made. As it was, David Fincher, who would turn out be a great director, was unproved at the time and kept on a pretty short leash by Fox... As if Ridley Scott and James Cameron had huge amounts of experience when they made their Alien films.

[bracomadar]

I remember when Fox made awesome Sci-Fi movies. Now they all seem to suck and are just corny (this included). The visuals just look too CGed on them. Bullet time was cool in the Matrix, but that was because it was new and it was a fake world where strange physics and time manipulation things could take place. Now when I see bullet time it makes me wanna leave the theater, or turn the movie off. Slow motion is bad enough, but to revolve around something is just worse. Special effects are should make you feel like something is more real, but bullet time ruins the effect of realism. As for the rocket sled, who would bring something like that on an expedition. I guess the guy heading up the expedition called Madam Cleo before going and she suggested it might come in handy. That woman was the least thing from Ripley and should have been the first to die. I hate when a movie gives you some awesome badass characters (predators, guys with guns, etc.) and then kills them off. I wanted to see the guys with the kids make it home, but no. Remember that awesome sniper in Saving Private Ryan, he was killed off and that really pissed me off. The tail and shield as weapons were dumb too. WTF is she gonna do with that? Also, what was up with the aliens hatching out of the people so fast? They get the face huggers on them, go asleep, 30 seconds later they awake and the things bust out of their chests? At that rate they should have had a predator have one bust out of his chest at the beginning and be terrorizing them all throughout the movie. You would figure they'd have a half alien/half predator beast running around all through the movie, or at least at the end battle, but no. The very last scene on the ship one bursts out, but that's it. That thing sucked too. I wanted to see a fully grown one. To tell you the truth, I didn't have high hopes for this movie, even when I saw the trailers. It's the 5th Alien movie and 3rd Predator movie. Sequels always get worse and worse. Don't even get me started on prequels, they suck even worse.

[oracrest]

I remember when Fox made awesome Sci-Fi movies. Now they all seem to suck and are just corny (this included). The visuals just look too CGed on them. Bullet time was cool in the Matrix, but that was because it was new and it was a fake world where strange physics and time manipulation things could take place. Now when I see bullet time it makes me wanna leave the theater, or turn the movie off. Slow motion is bad enough, but to revolve around something is just worse. Special effects are should make you feel like something is more real, but bullet time ruins the effect of realism. As for the rocket sled, who would bring something like that on an expedition. I guess the guy heading up the expedition called Madam Cleo before going and she suggested it might come in handy. That woman was the least thing from Ripley and should have been the first to die. I hate when a movie gives you some awesome badass characters (predators, guys with guns, etc.) and then kills them off. I wanted to see the guys with the kids make it home, but no. Remember that awesome sniper in Saving Private Ryan, he was killed off and that really pissed me off. The tail and shield as weapons were dumb too. WTF is she gonna do with that? Also, what was up with the aliens hatching out of the people so fast? They get the face huggers on them, go asleep, 30 seconds later they awake and the things bust out of their chests? At that rate they should have had a predator have one bust out of his chest at the beginning and be terrorizing them all throughout the movie. You would figure they'd have a half alien/half predator beast running around all through the movie, or at least at the end battle, but no. The very last scene on the ship one bursts out, but that's it. That thing sucked too. I wanted to see a fully grown one. To tell you the truth, I didn't have high hopes for this movie, even when I saw the trailers. It's the 5th Alien movie and 3rd Predator movie. Sequels always get worse and worse. Don't even get me started on prequels, they suck even worse.


OH NO SHIT! I forgot to mention it before, but if you have an aliens vs predator movie, WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT have a scene where there is an alien hatched from a predator. I mean, you wanna top a queen alien, there ya go. Im sure this facet of the story never entered the mind of that A hole director. Or they could have thrown in a scene where one of the predators gets impregnated by a facehugger, but kills himself before it hatches. Predators are proud, that would have been a concievable scene. It also would have added some character, the most fundamental element of storytelling, obviously something this B movie directot has never heard of. MTV could have made a better AVP movie. OH, and I just remembered another thing that pissed me off, wasn't there a scene where one of the predators takes his wrist thing off, arms it, and throws it into a room of aliens? WTF was up with that? you don't use that as a weapon, thats the device that blows you up when you have been defeated. For suicide only, like those special swords that the samurai carried with them for the sole purpose of seppoku (sp?). They also didn't really think about the aliens and predators, and how they compare as far as fighting ability. one predator will kill one alien, everytime. Unless the predator is caught without any of it's technological weaponry, there is no way a sole alien could win. Im not trying to spark a "who would win in a fight.." sort of arguement, but it's painfully obvious to me that predators are superior to aliens on an individual basis. The whole thing about the aliens is that they are effective as a community, like ants, they function as a social unit. Now one may be pretty deadly still, but a predator can fuck some shit up! they can go invisible, they can see heat, neither of which were used creatively in this fan film of the alien franchise.

[Presence]

I just rented this thing and as a full time film student, all I can say, is...

:aw: :at: :af: :a!:

How is it possible, the amount of people involved, the money, the time, that something like this could actually happen? How does an exec sit down, read a screenplay like this and say to himself "This is fantastic!! And I know the perfect director for it!!" I am beginning to believe that Anderson has some type of intimate mind control ability.

Crit:

There are some plus sides to this, few of them, but they are there. I thought some of the cinematography was fantastic...though problematic because the temple was simply too big, we lose that sense of claustrophobia which is beyond amazing in Alien/s.

The briefcase guns were well done, the predator shoulder cannons looks great, alot of the art direction was pretty solid all around. I think it was my constant hope in more "cool" little elements which actually kept me from snapping the DVD in half.

Ok here we go.... /m\

The premise for this film is a complete waste of time. It is a setup we have seen time and time again whereby we know it is going to be the solo pred, the solo human who survive out of both groups to battle the Alien queen whose final run was straight out of Jurassic Park.

You have to do one of two things here, give us a cast we actually give a fuck about or put the world at risk. You have to pick one, Predator and Alien are perfect examples of this, rednecks we love. Cameron and Scott didnt give us all of these cool scientists, they gave us truckers!! Normal day to day grumpy sarcastic human beings caught in a shit storm, the same with predator, yeah they were skilled military but they were atypical guys who joked and bantered with an edge to them. Glover kinda hit the mark though not all the way imho. But, instead, what do we get in AVP, twenty minutes of cheeseball Trekky talk. That guy dies, then this guy, then the guy over there and you know what, I DON'T CARE ANDERSON, which means....drum roll...suddenly the Aliens are not so scary, suddenly I am bored, suddenly I have an urge to find your home address.

The preds looked like NFL football players, wtf!!! They were barely believable as having any agility at all!! I was honetly waiting for the pred to give the Alien a DDT. LOL that might have made things better. We got to see some classic elements which was fantastic and brought up the old nostalgic feelings but what Anderson didn't realize was that there is an already established visual dialogue which is the predator.

We know you get to make this film Anderson but you don't get to rewrite what has already happened in both franchises.

The Aliens, come on!! They were not even threatening! Combined with a cast I don't give a shit about = *fill in the blank. The Alien Queen looked like a bad Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Universal S&M rule book. Not to mention the Pred's in all their intellegence would have never made a cavern in the temple large enough for her to escape.

To be honest the entire film felt as though this scope was out of Anderson's ability and he was trying to play catch up from the beginning.

Ok here it is, the "If I could have written/directed" rant.

The only two guys I really gave a shit about were the two archeologists, the ones that found the bottlecap. I would have started with them, that the darker haired actor would have kept digging despite his friend telling him to give up.

The Weyland sponsored dig hits paydirt, a massive amount of small handlike bones, and beside it, a pred spear. He keeps going, then in another casual push of a shovel into the dirt, he hits metal, soon they realize they are acually atop of a crashed pred ship.

Weyland Security is called in though they keep going until they realize why the ship crashed *insert first shot of alien eggs. *insert shot of pred nuclear wrist bomb cut in half.

Throw in the General who does not want to believe he is in over his head. He tries to contain the situation and locks everyone into the ship which is just friggn enormous, like I mean enormous though all in massive pred detail which then turns to Alien catacomb.

There is a scene where we see a ton of Alien skeletons piled up against a door, the team opens it to find three sleeping Preds who are very sick from the long term hybernation.

It is now a shit storm, most of the Rangers who followed the General have been killed from Chest bursters but the Preds make way to the....armory. And even the odds a little, it then becomes a survival to get the ship back into running order.

In the end, the General gets his ass handed to him ala Alien drone, only one of the archeologists survives and the last living pred takes the ship off earth where we think he is returning home.

In an ots shot a spectacular explosion erupts in space to kill the Queen and sacrifice himself in honor

In the aftermath we see the archeologist filing the report to his financiers, then to none other than Carles Bishop Weyland at his office burning it. We pan to see the pred spear on his desk.

[dusty imp]

i haven't seen the movie, the trailer told me all i needed to know.
but guys, you gotta understand that this move is not;
suspence/horror
r-rated
targets adult audience
this movie is a franchise targeted at teenagers, and everything was done to make it "cool" and appealing to them. just look at the ratings it gets from teens on the net.

[oracrest]

i haven't seen the movie, the trailer told me all i needed to know.
but guys, you gotta understand that this move is not;
suspence/horror
r-rated
targets adult audience
this movie is a franchise targeted at teenagers, and everything was done to make it "cool" and appealing to them. just look at the ratings it gets from teens on the net.

Oh, i completely understand the audience they were targetting, and it's the root of why I hate it so much.

[dusty imp]

Oh, i completely understand the audience they were targetting, and it's the root of why I hate it so much.

it's unfortunate, but whatever brings in money tends to go along this same path - sell it harder to bring in more money. it's mostly due to that that i rarely watch new movies or play new games. i have to carefully search out decent stuff that comes out occasionally. pain in the ass but that's what you have to do if you don't want to be force-fed the mainstream commercialized shit.

[oracrest]

I just rented this thing and as a full time film student, all I can say, is...

:aw: :at: :af: :a!:

How is it possible, the amount of people involved, the money, the time, that something like this could actually happen? How does an exec sit down, read a screenplay like this and say to himself "This is fantastic!! And I know the perfect director for it!!" I am beginning to believe that Anderson has some type of intimate mind control ability.

Crit:

There are some plus sides to this, few of them, but they are there. I thought some of the cinematography was fantastic...though problematic because the temple was simply too big, we lose that sense of claustrophobia which is beyond amazing in Alien/s.

The briefcase guns were well done, the predator shoulder cannons looks great, alot of the art direction was pretty solid all around. I think it was my constant hope in more "cool" little elements which actually kept me from snapping the DVD in half.

Ok here we go.... /m\

The premise for this film is a complete waste of time. It is a setup we have seen time and time again whereby we know it is going to be the solo pred, the solo human who survive out of both groups to battle the Alien queen whose final run was straight out of Jurassic Park.

You have to do one of two things here, give us a cast we actually give a fuck about or put the world at risk. You have to pick one, Predator and Alien are perfect examples of this, rednecks we love. Cameron and Scott didnt give us all of these cool scientists, they gave us truckers!! Normal day to day grumpy sarcastic human beings caught in a shit storm, the same with predator, yeah they were skilled military but they were atypical guys who joked and bantered with an edge to them. Glover kinda hit the mark though not all the way imho. But, instead, what do we get in AVP, twenty minutes of cheeseball Trekky talk. That guy dies, then this guy, then the guy over there and you know what, I DON'T CARE ANDERSON, which means....drum roll...suddenly the Aliens are not so scary, suddenly I am bored, suddenly I have an urge to find your home address.

The preds looked like NFL football players, wtf!!! They were barely believable as having any agility at all!! I was honetly waiting for the pred to give the Alien a DDT. LOL that might have made things better. We got to see some classic elements which was fantastic and brought up the old nostalgic feelings but what Anderson didn't realize was that there is an already established visual dialogue which is the predator.

We know you get to make this film Anderson but you don't get to rewrite what has already happened in both franchises.

The Aliens, come on!! They were not even threatening! Combined with a cast I don't give a shit about = *fill in the blank. The Alien Queen looked like a bad Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Universal S&M rule book. Not to mention the Pred's in all their intellegence would have never made a cavern in the temple large enough for her to escape.

To be honest the entire film felt as though this scope was out of Anderson's ability and he was trying to play catch up from the beginning.

Ok here it is, the "If I could have written/directed" rant.

The only two guys I really gave a shit about were the two archeologists, the ones that found the bottlecap. I would have started with them, that the darker haired actor would have kept digging despite his friend telling him to give up.

The Weyland sponsored dig hits paydirt, a massive amount of small handlike bones, and beside it, a pred spear. He keeps going, then in another casual push of a shovel into the dirt, he hits metal, soon they realize they are acually atop of a crashed pred ship.

Weyland Security is called in though they keep going until they realize why the ship crashed *insert first shot of alien eggs. *insert shot of pred nuclear wrist bomb cut in half.

Throw in the General who does not want to believe he is in over his head. He tries to contain the situation and locks everyone into the ship which is just friggn enormous, like I mean enormous though all in massive pred detail which then turns to Alien catacomb.

There is a scene where we see a ton of Alien skeletons piled up against a door, the team opens it to find three sleeping Preds who are very sick from the long term hybernation.

It is now a shit storm, most of the Rangers who followed the General have been killed from Chest bursters but the Preds make way to the....armory. And even the odds a little, it then becomes a survival to get the ship back into running order.

In the end, the General gets his ass handed to him ala Alien drone, only one of the archeologists survives and the last living pred takes the ship off earth where we think he is returning home.

In an ots shot a spectacular explosion erupts in space to kill the Queen and sacrifice himself in honor

In the aftermath we see the archeologist filing the report to his financiers, then to none other than Carles Bishop Weyland at his office burning it. We pan to see the pred spear on his desk.

Haha, good rant! I just thought of another scene the was dumb in the move, it cuts to the inside of a helicopter, the main girl, and some guy sleeping. the guy wakes up, then introduces himself to the main girl. Now normally, when I am getting onto a helicopter with someone, I usually would have the courtesy to introduce myself before I fall asleep two feet away from them. Now this may just be a nitpick, but something like this in painfully obvious to me as an inconsistency. Thinking back, I got a glimpse of the lack of foresight and thought that went into this movie right with this scene at the beginning.

[Prometheus|ANJ]

For my own AvP movie, I'd use the alien queen that was ejected into space. It somehow seems plausible that an alien could curl up into a little ball and cocoon/save vital organs somehow.

Space is pretty vast though, so someone has to figure out it's trajectory through space, maybe using the ship log.

As for an enviroment, a spaceship and a planet has been used, so I'd go for the inbetween, an asteroid (with an artificial 1g field). It could have landscapes/parks, regular cities, aswell as claustrophobic mining shafts. Population would be something along the lines of 800.

They salvage things, since they're miners and greedy about salvaging stuff, so they come over the cocooned queen and brings it back.
They disect the cocoon and in the center they find a facehugger-ish thing, and it finds them.

Later, a predator ship snaps up the distress call, and are intrigued by the lethal life form. (Predator 2 suggests they have encountered aliens earlier though, but I like the idea of aliens being exotic, new to the region, or having been inactive for thousands of years)

So now we got something like a few surviving colonists, some predators and hundreds of aliens.


Well, that's the setup anyways. Now I'm going to bed.

[Presence]

it's unfortunate, but whatever brings in money tends to go along this same path - sell it harder to bring in more money. it's mostly due to that that i rarely watch new movies or play new games. i have to carefully search out decent stuff that comes out occasionally. pain in the ass but that's what you have to do if you don't want to be force-fed the mainstream commercialized shit.

Yutani I am beginning to become more and more like this myself, I am totally holding off on getting the new, instead, I find myself waiting for much much longer now and finding the good stuff. Feel like a Vinyl collector at times.

[Black Jesus]

Tune in next week for Uwe Boll

oh god... that guy makes paul anderson look like james cameron. house of the dead is quite possibly the worst movie i've ever seen. i haven't seen alone in the dark, but i'm actually kind of curious if it's possibly even worse than house of the dead. i don't know how that could be possible... but i kind of want to find out.

[N D Hill]

Some cosmologists believe that the universe will eventually snap back on to itself and end in a "reverse big-bang." The cause? Paul Anderson will make a film that sucks so much that it will cause all of existence to implode.

The British, who enjoy the positive stereotype of being sophisticated and witty, have officially asked that Paul Anderson stop speaking with their accent.

Primitive jawless fish are one of evolutions oldest and most repulsive surviving designs. They will attach themselves to the surface of a host organism and slowly suck it's blood and eat it from the inside out. Species in this family include the Hagfish, lamprey, and paul Anderson.

The Aztec Calendar ends with what would be our year of 2018... The slated release date for Paul Anderson’s film 'Alien vs. Predator vs. Robot Zombie Commandos.'

In China, it is considered bad luck to have a baby who is born Paul Anderson.

Schools around the country have stopped federal standardized testing and are instead using a quicker method to gauge a student’s development. The new test consists of one question; "How many Paul Anderson movies have you seen in the past year?"

[oracrest]

Some cosmologists believe that the universe will eventually snap back on to itself and end in a "reverse big-bang." The cause? Paul Anderson will make a film that sucks so much that it will cause all of existence to implode.

The British, who enjoy the positive stereotype of being sophisticated and witty, have officially asked that Paul Anderson stop speaking with their accent.

Primitive jawless fish are one of evolutions oldest and most repulsive surviving designs. They will attach themselves to the surface of a host organism and slowly suck it's blood and eat it from the inside out. Species in this family include the Hagfish, lamprey, and paul Anderson.

The Aztec Calendar ends with what would be our year of 2018... The slated release date for Paul Anderson’s film 'Alien vs. Predator vs. Robot Zombie Commandos.'

In China, it is considered bad luck to have a baby who is born Paul Anderson.

Schools around the country have stopped federal standardized testing and are instead using a quicker method to gauge a student’s development. The new test consists of one question; "How many Paul Anderson movies have you seen in the past year?"

well said

[N D Hill]

You know, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if films like 'Mortal Kombat' and 'AVP' gained cult status in much the same way that Ed Wood's 'Plan 9 from Outer Space' did.

[oracrest]

You know, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if films like 'Mortal Kombat' and 'AVP' gained cult status in much the same way that Ed Wood's 'Plan 9 from Outer Space' did.

I would say weve got a pretty strong cult of hate going right here :)

[Crash]

ok, the predators can not travel in time, im a nerd so i should now.


the predators (yautja) get really fucking old, thats why he gave away a frikkin acient pistol to danny glover, his first human kill (maybe).

btw avp doesnt exist to me, and paul "fuck up" anderson is dead to me.

[bat]

What did you expect? Science fiction movies nowadays are just special effects, for the most part. Explosions, computer generated aliens and quirky one-liners. Characters are two dimensional and the viewer rarely has a reason to care of the protagonist lives or dies. When directors learn from the masters how to create an evocative, moody, suspenseful movie again, not concentrated on all the flash and computer generated special effects, then good science fiction will return. Peter Jackson put fantasy back on the map and has created movies that will be hard to top for a while.

[oracrest]

Ok, so I popped in Predator 2, and he doesn't say anything about time travel. Im guessing that was filled in by my imagination when I was little and just stuck over the years. But I did notice that the designs from the AVP weren't as original as I had thought, all stright rips from the different aliens at the end of P2.

What was I expecting? While I admitted to myself before I saw the movie that it wasn't going to be as good as the movie in my head, one that since I was a kid had fantasied about. However, this film failed with honors to be anything close to original, creative, or intelligent. It's almost as if Paul Anderson tried to make the cheesiest movie possible. This was like an episode of Xena quality with more money thrown into it.

What I had always imagined:
I agree with Prometheus that the movie should have taken place outside of the already used settings. At least if it was on a planet, have some fun with that, introduce some sort of new element. Is the atmosphere toxic to predatos, but not aliens? You know, have fun and be creative with it. I also thought that there should be no people in it. This comes out of my longing for a science fiction movie to be made that does not have humans. Space is vast. Galaxies are numerous. To have every science fiction movie contain humans edges toward narcisism in it's own way. I know hollywood execs would worry that demographic X cannot relate to non people, and you completely throw product placement out the window, so theres gonna be people in every sci fi movie, but I always wanted there to be one without, and thought Aliens vs. Predator would be perfect (I also only thought of "Aliens vs. Predator" as the concept, not actual title for, the movie. You guys wanna know why you felt like the predators were like NFL jocks, or pro wrestlers? just look at the title. Anderson's sequel: Aliens vs. Predator 2: Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!!")

Experiment with the predator's characters. Ok, so Predator 2 was a few levels below the original. The musical score was completely borrowed from the original, dialogue was cheesy and cliche at times. BUT, even though the production value was considerably lower than the original, they still took the time to develop all these interesting different characters that appear for less than a minute at the end of the movie. Now, your Anderson, do you take a full two hour movie and expand on this developing character design? No, you show your effects guys a clip from the end of P2, and go "I want that one, that one, and that one. But I want that ones wrist blades to come out twice as far!" Just no creativity whatsoever in this one. You have an alien race with vastly superior technology that has a strong compulsion to hunt for sport. The possibilities are endless. Why not have a purist Predator that doesn't believe in anything but hand to hand combet, only cloaking, melee weapons, and hair that falls down to the middle of his back. After all, he doesnt need to worry about it getting in the way of his shoulder cannon. He also doesn't wear a mask as he feels it is a crutch. Or a predator with one of his arms ripped off, and other scars all over his body, but the other predators pay reverance to him because he is no doubt a cunning warrior that has proven himself many times on the battlefield. Or a wizened predator that is ages older than the others who is physically slower, but who's extensive experience makes up for it. Or a predator who collects spines rather than skulls., or........ my point is that you can have fun with this type of character, but anderson did not. He is a shitty director with no imagination who makes movies for people who arent fans. Fuck him.

[Prometheus|ANJ]

Yeah, it would definately had been interesting to see some character development on the predator side. Different masks, weapon preference, strategy.
AvP could certainly had used more more aliens. My impression of a predator is that it'd only go down if the aliens pile up on them. How did the aliens manage to 'tongue' through the predator masks anyways?


I just bought Alien 1 (directors cut), Metropolis and Jason and the argonauts on DVD. That skeleton scene beats anything I've seen in a fantasy movie. I heard they spent like a year on it.
I'd kill for a greek mythology movie, like the odyssé or some adventure like that. It would be much better than the LotR spectacle. Extremely boring characters. Didn't care for the designs. The story telling was too... sectioned. Walk on iceridge > character Y's traits is displayed, Walk on cliff terrain > event X happens, Walk in cave > monster is displayed, Walk in a forest, Gimly tries to be funny, Elf bedroom, hobbits are gay in slowmotion, etc... No transitions, like bunch of static diorama displays. (I've only seen the short versions). To me it sort of falls in the same category as AvP and Matrix, movies for 13 year olds that like to discuss how cool they are. As soon as you take a deeper look at the fundamental construction and concept it just falls apart.

[Elwell]

Paul Anderson and Rob Liefeld should team up for the ultimate pop culture multimedia suckage extravaganza!

[oracrest]

Paul Anderson and Rob Liefeld should team up for the ultimate pop culture multimedia suckage extravaganza!

haha! my roomate actually used to work for Rob Leifeld, and has an ongoing correspondance with him. I used to like his art style waaaaay back in the early X force stuff, but I agree that everything after that was emulated and uninspired, and then moved on to blatant ripoff.

but anyway, my roomie was telling me how Rob now writes screenplays! heh :( I guess he's written a good dozen or so and sold them to companies already. So watch out, you joke could become a reality!

[Presence]

It would be much better than the LotR spectacle.

LMFAO riiiiiiiiiight.

[bat]

I am not seeing the time travel aspect. The Predators are much more advanced than humans and have visited earth, and other places, over the centuries. Maybe they just have a Dune-like space folding technology.

[oracrest]

Yeah, it would definately had been interesting to see some character development on the predator side. Different masks, weapon preference, strategy.
AvP could certainly had used more more aliens. My impression of a predator is that it'd only go down if the aliens pile up on them. How did the aliens manage to 'tongue' through the predator masks anyways?


I just bought Alien 1 (directors cut), Metropolis and Jason and the argonauts on DVD. That skeleton scene beats anything I've seen in a fantasy movie. I heard they spent like a year on it.
I'd kill for a greek mythology movie, like the odyssé or some adventure like that. It would be much better than the LotR spectacle. Extremely boring characters. Didn't care for the designs. The story telling was too... sectioned. Walk on iceridge > character Y's traits is displayed, Walk on cliff terrain > event X happens, Walk in cave > monster is displayed, Walk in a forest, Gimly tries to be funny, Elf bedroom, hobbits are gay in slowmotion, etc... No transitions, like bunch of static diorama displays. (I've only seen the short versions). To me it sort of falls in the same category as AvP and Matrix, movies for 13 year olds that like to discuss how cool they are. As soon as you take a deeper look at the fundamental construction and concept it just falls apart.

dude, I LOOOOOOOOOOOVED me some jason and the argonauts when I was a kid. Also Clash of the Titans was good as well. I remember that when I was really young, sometimes Clash of the Titans would come on, and I would be astounded by this movie, but I never knew the name of it. So for like 8 years, every time I was flipping through the channels, and this would be on, it was like I had stumbled across some buried treasure! Id usually get a good 20 minutes of the movie at a time. Each time, I would get to see a little more of the movie than I had before (being young, your usually on your parents schedule, and can't just sit down and watch the whole thing if they have plans...). So Clash of the titans for me was a bit like piecing together a treasure map over the course of my childhood. Ah, what a great memory. Made me want a helmet of invisibility like no ones business.

the NES game Shadowgate was a lot like that too. I never owned the game growing up, but I rented the hell out of it. Took me like 4 or 5 years to finally beat the thing. That game was epic for me. This was before the internet and being able to just download any walkthrough. Shadowgate and Deja Vu both took me long hours and many years to finish, but I loved the overwhelming sense of completion when you finally beat them. Like a great journey has finally come to an end. Metal Gear and Goonies 2 were like that also. years spanning games, heh :)

Argonauts is sweet. So many great moments in that movie, The giant guy that comes out of the water and keeps the cliffs from colliding, Talos, and the skeletons. They were great. I always loved beating up the skeletons in Golden Axe, it always reminded me of Jason and the Argonauts.

[Presence]

Or possibly the same ship is used by the same "packs" of preds and generations after generations have shared the same trofee room.

[bat]

Or possibly the same ship is used by the same "packs" of preds and generations after generations have shared the same trofee room.


Good point, quite possibly as well.

[Floris Didden]

I'm almost tempted to view this flick just so I can bitch about it.

[Presence]

Florist don't man, seriously, just keep the perfect and untarnished experiences of Aliens and Pred.

[Carnifex]

haha,do that. it will give you enough to bitch for a year.:D
this was one of the movies where i thought: ohhh they can make it good. BUT,what do you think happens? some idiot takes all the directing,writing etc. and makes the most crappy movies imaginable.
ok,there were some parts of it that could have worked.
characters:
i somehow found that red head russian to be extremely good. imo she should have been the main person.she seemed like she could have some personality.
all other characters flat,stupid turds. and i mean charles weyland,wtf? how the hell did he get there and survive until alien3? +with that stupid lungcancer(or whatever it was,soo unnecessary)? come ON!
main actors where just there to look pretty(which they didn't). that's somewhat equal to elija wood's acting in lotr3.
predators:
if they had had characters like described above it would have been cool.also they were ultra weak.i mean one alien beating two of them,also,an INJURED alien? come onnn! and having to find those shoulder guns to battle them off?:nohope:
also why did the chestbursters get out of the humans so fast but not out of the predator? *logic! logic!*
the preds in the end looked silly too...most of all that centurion one. blargh.
aliens:
they looked exactly like those in resurrection.nothing else. "grid alien" was silly also.i would've liked it far more if there only had been one alien,one predator and some silly humans on some planet that's NOT earth.
oh yeah and the queen was far too big...she wasn't even that big in aliens...so wtf? and she looked like a dinosaur.

all in all.....totall illogic...and...has anyone of you played avp2 once? that was FAAAAR better than any silly movie.
hmm...i wanted to rant about more...but i forgot it...must have been a brainfart when trying to remember all the sillyness.

[Prometheus|ANJ]

Yeah! It was a pity that this (IMDB) (http://www.us.imdb.com/name/nm0209169/) girl (photo) (http://www.brian-oshaughnessy.com/alien/images/Adele.jpg) had to go so early...

[MuffinMan]

Yeah! It was a pity that this (IMDB) (http://www.us.imdb.com/name/nm0209169/) girl (photo) (http://www.brian-oshaughnessy.com/alien/images/Adele.jpg) had to go so early...

how come?
geez, what's with you guys? why does the movie seem so bad to you? i thought it was great.

[dusty imp]

Yeah! It was a pity that this (IMDB) girl (photo) had to go so early...

when i was watching the trailer i was tempted to go see just because of that girl alone (short bleached hair = hotness), but then i found out that she gets killed in the begining. that was the last straw.

[Carnifex]

PLUS she got killed in slow-mo.
silliest ending ever. >:| >:{

edit: ohh she is french? that explains why she's so good. and then talk with russian accent? this woman is a GENIUS!

[Presence]

you guys thought she was hot? >:|

My GF blows her outta the water!

[Carnifex]

well, i'm not sure if she was that hot(though she was i guess),but the main point was that she seemed like she had personality and could have done some proper acting if she was given more time and a better script.

[Black Jesus]

how come?
geez, what's with you guys? why does the movie seem so bad to you? i thought it was great.


great? watch alien, aliens, and predator. those are great. this is trash.

[Carnifex]

i concur. i'd add alien3 also.
(it wasn't as scary as the others,but veeery good storytelling)

[Prometheus|ANJ]

'Hot' isn't that relevant to acting... she looked okay. She somehow had the looks of a protagonist. Like Ripley/Siggy she has a... not sure how to describe it... forceful face with the jaw and all. I don't think hot would be suitable.

Well, the surviving girl looked nice... I think the ideal thing would be if the two girls survived and there was a little scene with panties on the end... mmmm...



What was the deal with the predator scanning the... dude? Did it imply that the predators will engineer a copy later? That'd be pretty lame.

[MuffinMan]

'Hot' isn't that relevant to acting... she looked okay. She somehow had the looks of a protagonist. Like Ripley/Siggy she has a... not sure how to describe it... forceful face with the jaw and all. I don't think hot would be suitable.

Well, the surviving girl looked nice... I think the ideal thing would be if the two girls survived and there was a little scene with panties on the end... mmmm...



What was the deal with the predator scanning the... dude? Did it imply that the predators will engineer a copy later? That'd be pretty lame.

lol, yeah so they can make copies to practice sluaghtering, before they return to earth adn collect more skullz....

[Sok N. Wett]

movie was ok.....it would have been better if there was maybe no humans around and maybe a big war between the predators and aliens, and the predators having subtitles so we can see what the whole story was about. I like d it for what it was a cheesy franchise movie to help sell their toy lines, and that's it, would I buy the dvd, probably not, would i buy the toy....maybe if it comes with kung fu grip. Let's make another thread about Blade: Trinity and how much that sucked up the anus hole, seeing as how they are starting to target everything for the teenagers.....damn hollywood.

[Scubasteve]

What did you expect? I can't think of a bigger cash cow if I wanted too. Lets face it, the Aliens movies after the second were crap, and the first predator was the only good one. Put them together ten years later and what do you got.....Crapola!!!

[Icelandic Norm]

Horrible movie. What a horrible thing to throw into the legacies of both movie monsters.

[steak-tron]

I haven't read the thread but AVP blew assholes.

Cool effects... only redeeming quality. Just like the movie "Casshern"... which also sucks ass.

[Sok N. Wett]

Speaking of Casshern.....yeah that movie relied way too much on CG.....I really wanted to like that one too, but eh things don't always go hand and hand.

[Floris Didden]

The best thing I liked about Casshern was the trailer, which ruled, in contrast to the film, which sucked monkeynuts.

[Ssenkrah Semaj]

nooooooooooooooo...Casshern! the trailer looks awesome say it ain't so mommy...say it ain't so.

Speaking of another heavy effects ladden movie Sky Captain and the Crap of Tomorrow. Then there is a french movie which mixes cgi human characters with live action Le Immortel, it didn't look too bad, but then again I couldn't understand it as there were no subtitles.

I'm worried for the future of good b-rated sci-fi, there used to be a time when big budgets did not a good sci fi movie make.

Guyver 2, Space Truckers, Ice Pirates, Fortress, and the Vindicator just a few of my fav b-rated low budget sci-fi movies.

[Carnifex]

i think generally most movies today are crap because they're all aimed at teenies and people who watch mtv everyday,and because everything these days runs with ppl who are to look good and can't act shit. :rolleyes:

[loomer]

Okay - all the responses have had me cracking up - this is funny shit. But I do feel like crying at the same time - I remember talk of this combo for years, - back when i was in my teens, so the anticipation had been building for years. But it was a piece of shit...it's hard to deny it - and I went opening weekend, and pissed away $$$$$.

I will admit this - when the Aliens and Predators first start going at it (which is only really 15 minutes of the whole movie if you really think about it) - I kinda got really pumped!

[Sok N. Wett]

I was so excited and paid for all my friends, well there goes 30 bucks down the drain.

[N D Hill]

You what I just discovered? The only people who seem to like this movie all type like this for some reason; "OMG!!!! THAT MOV WAS TEH ROXORZ!!! OMG LOL!!!!! THAT ALIEN WAS LEIK PWN3D!!!!!!!!"

...And for some reason they all congregate on the Spawn.com message boards and have screen names like "Blood-reeper", "Slaughter_Fest83" "Black-Sole" (yes I know I spelled soul wrong) and "Demonwarrior==[===>".

[Carnifex]

ROFL OMG YoU AcTUALLY DISCOVRED TAHT?

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[MuffinMan]

you people are sad, it was a decent movie, i enjoyed it...i wouldn't mind seeing another AVP movie. ADMIT IT! admit it that it was a good movie, not a piece of shit. if it was a piece of shit it would look super fake like the first star trek show.

[N D Hill]

ROFL OMG YoU AcTUALLY DISCOVRED TAHT?

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LMAO!!!!!! @ |=={====>Carnifex_the_reeper_19<====}==| AVP IZ BETER THAN pr0n!!!!!!! HAteRZ ARE TEH SUK!!!!!!!

[Carnifex]

NO VAY!!! PR0N CAN NEVAR BE STOPPD!!!! MAIK A FILM AND WE'll C!! PR0N WILL PWN AVP!!!! AND AVP2!!!
but Ur Raight HATERZ SUKKK!!!!

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[bRyaN]

I just saw it on Saturday..and i cried...

The only 2 good scenes were...the quick fight between the Alien and Predator, casue i laughed hysterically when he grabbed it's tail and swung him through the walls...

ANd the scene when the Predator came outta no where and dropped on the Alien Queen and again i was crackin up....

A redeeming factor was the entire time i was watching the movie, i was like what if Arnold busted on the scene machine guns in hand, or Sigourney busting some alien ass...What if indeed....

Muffin, no amount of wishing will make this movie good...

[N D Hill]

OMG!!! WAHT IF AVP2 LEIK HAD Pr0N!!!!???? LMAO!!!!!!!! THAT CHICK AND THE PRED COULD GET 1T 0N!!!!!!!! WTF!!!! ROFL!!!!!!!

[Carnifex]

NO NO!! TEH CHIK AND TEH KWEEN NEED TO MAKE OUT!! AND TEH PREDDIE NEEDS TO INZTALL TEH KAMERA!!!
ADN DIDN TEH FAZEHUGGERZ MAKE OUT WIHT EVERY1 ANYWAYZ?!
LOL!!OMG!!WTF!!!

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[N D Hill]

TEH QUEEN IZ TEH SECKSY!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!

all right. typing like this is giving me a headache.

[Carnifex]

plus it takes a shitload of time.

on a side note: i'm only going to bother looking at a second part if someone else than paul assperson is making it.

[Sok N. Wett]

you people are sad, it was a decent movie, i enjoyed it...i wouldn't mind seeing another AVP movie. ADMIT IT! admit it that it was a good movie, not a piece of shit. if it was a piece of shit it would look super fake like the first star trek show.

If they make it that fake, then it wouldn't be an industry standard. Now a days movies don't have to have a storyline, just good camera movements and special effects. Remember "Alexander", the trailer did not show any gay scenes, and it made it look like a blockbuster, oh boy was i surprise when i got into the theatre....what a way to lore people in.

[Carnifex]

if it had been like the first star trek it would atleast have been funny.this way it was just sad.
i fully agree with what you say. have all the good writers and directors died or what is happening?
and why does everyone want that mtv feeling?
and the trailers these days tend to show the whole movie in a few minutes-without the bad parts. kinda like the movie is the uncut version of the trailer.

[Aly Fell]

Look, I'm sorry guys... I really am! As a Brit I can't apologise enough for Paul Anderson. He's had his 'really a nice bloke if you met him down the pub' rights revoked and has since been neutered.

[N D Hill]

Look, I'm sorry guys... I really am! As a Brit I can't apologise enough for Paul Anderson. He's had his 'really a nice bloke if you met him down the pub' rights revoked and has since been neutered.

It's nice to see that precautions are being taken. We can't afford that thing being being allowed to breed. I have no doubt that it would result in the extinction of the entire human race.

[oracrest]

It's nice to see that precautions are being taken. We can't afford that thing being being allowed to breed. I have no doubt that it would result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Of course, somehting much worse has already happened! He has made movies which millions of people have viewed. Collectively, their standard for quality has been just ever so slightly lowered. their children will grow up with those genes, and come to expect a certain kind of low rate piece of shit as the standard of their entertainment dollar. they will get used to this, and breed as well. As a species, the spike of evolution will happen, and we will go plummeting downard into some sort of hollow action movie watching primate. We will make movies about ALIENS, only these aliens will be different from us because they enjoy good quality entertainment. Our current state will become a long lost civilization, an Atlantis if you will. The taglines for their films will be "In Space, no one can hear you waste 10 dollars and 2 hours of your life"

All because Paul Anderson tipped the scales on us, and sent us into a dark age of standards....

Now this, IMO, is much worse than one simple little paul anderson running around somewhere :):):)

[Aly Fell]

There may yet be a chance for humanity... form the ashes some force may be arising as we talk. A lone warrior may be developing a device; a machine that could take him back, back to a time before Alien v Predator, back to a time before Anderson saw his first movie and felt inspired, back to his schooldays in Newcastle. Here this warrior could take the form of a careers advisory specialist... "Bricklaying Paul, you'd like that, or maybe chicken farming... yes I could see you now... on a little farm, far away... far away"

It's a dream, a beautiful one, but only a dream...


All because Paul Anderson tipped the scales on us, and sent us into a dark age of standards....

Now this, IMO, is much worse than one simple little paul anderson running around somewhere :):):)

[oracrest]

There may yet be a chance for humanity... form the ashes some force may be arising as we talk. A lone warrior may be developing a device; a machine that could take him back, back to a time before Alien v Predator, back to a time before Anderson saw his first movie and felt inspired, back to his schooldays in Newcastle. Here this warrior could take the form of a careers advisory specialist... "Bricklaying Paul, you'd like that, or maybe chicken farming... yes I could see you now... on a little farm, far away... far away"

It's a dream, a beautiful one, but only a dream...

Hey, nice quote! I don't think I had heard that one before, was it from one of his shows? I have a good half a dozen on mp3. Did you see that they released a DVD of Bill Hicks stuff, which includes a documentary, and three different standup shows, including the big one from London (revelations i think?) I think he was bigger over there than in the states. If he were still alive, Im sure his entertainer sucking on satans dick for money bit would grow to include Paul Anderson!, hehe. In his late great words: "Demons, set loose on earth, to lower the standard."

[steak-tron]

haha, wise words poshspice :)

[oracrest]

anyone here see Adaptation? charlies view of the whole movie industry is pretty on par with my thoughts on the subject.

the one thing that this movie (AVP) really suffers from, and it can be narrowed down to one simple thing, is the fact that it exists.

I personally have my fingers crossed for a "The Godfather vs. Moby Dick", or better yet, the ultimate market driven movie "Coke vs. Pepsi vs. Porn Stars."

[Carnifex]

don't forget to put in britney and christina.
coke vs pepsy lol.