Nintendo Revolution: rumors / speculation thread

[Sammy]

Untill E3 I'll do my best to post whatever info I can dig up on Nintendo's next console... biggest industry flop, or new industry standard ... we'll have to wait 'till E3 to find out for sure...
All is rumors and speculation currently:

***--- controller to break tradition by not including A or B buttons or a D-pad. (http://cube.ign.com/articles/575/575714p1.html)

***--- console will represent a "paradigm shift." / if too complicated it could alienate players / monitor hook up (http://cube.ign.com/articles/579/579499p1.html)

***--- IGN commentary: And then there is the great unknown: the Nintendo Revolution. This is the Nintendo-given codename for the successor to GameCube, which is slated for release in 2006; it will go toe-to-toe with Sony's forthcoming PlayStation 3 console. (Incidentally, Microsoft will allegedly launch the follow-up to Xbox sometime this holiday season.) We've read all sorts of mistranslated comments about the machine and we've also spoken with development studios that are only just starting to learn about its technical capabilities.

Frankly, there's not much to say, except that it's going to be different from just about anything Nintendo has done before -- so original, in fact, that it may buck the designs of current consoles in favor of a whole new gameplay dynamic. Sounds, uh, revolutionary. I'm still not sure what to think of the machine, and I'm sure most of you feel the same way. But 2005 is a very important year in this regard because in just four months Nintendo will tell us its vision for the console. It could be the greatest thing ever. Or maybe not. But at least we'll finally know. I have to say that as a longtime Nintendo fan, I'm pretty excited.

***--- From some character on the Nintendopower forums, he apparently was correct about many of the DS' stats before it was unveiled...


There has been a TON of speculation on Nintendo's upcoming console but little is actually known about it. There are so many different ideas that no one really knows what to think. So here are some supposed "facts" about the Revolution. I can't reveal my source because I've been asked not to. Sorry guys. I would say that this info has at least a 65% chance of being accurate. My source has been right before and he's also been wrong. Here goes......

Ok first things first. Yes, Nintendo will utilize gyros in it's controllers. I think most people pretty much already took this as fact. Also, the Rev will indeed have dual processors. Also broadband is built in, no modem to buy. Nintendo has an online strategy in development. It will be implemented on the DS first. There are no current plans to connect the DS and the Rev....the GB Evolution on the other hand......

The Rev will have four controller ports. It will have a hard drive which will be used in much the same way as the 64DD was supposed to be used. Things like Dolby Digital 5.1 and high def monitor support are included. There is no type of virtual reality or any kind of headset planned. It is backwards compatible with Gamecube games. It will use the HD-DVD format and not Sony's Blu-Ray. Controllers are not wireless, but wireless controllers are planned. It will launch with an unnamed Mario game and work on Zelda has already begun. Super Smash Brothers is in mid development and will be a launch title.

Ok so what's the Revolutionary part? That's what you all want to know. Well my source wouldn't tell me. He said it would get him into too much trouble, and could give Sony and Microsoft an advantage at this stage in the game. But he did say this; "if you think too hard you'll never guess what it is. It's nothing "new" technically speaking. It's just something that hasn't really been applied to video games yet."

He then said "touching is good but feeling is better". What exactly that means I have no idea. Some sort of force feedback device? We already have rumble packs.

***--- Not to confident in the source, being that I can't read it... but this circulated on the gaming-age forums:
http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://game10.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/famicom/1106658928/l50
- Name of machine is "Nintendo 21"
- planned for release at end of 2005
- medium is 2-sided 8cm disc, 5.4GB capacity, in a shellcase
- includes "Home Game function" which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity
- "Home Game function" is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and "Nintendo Home"s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network.
- "Nintendo Home" machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports "Home Game function", also sends latest info from Nintendo.
- "Nintendo Home" is being jointly developed with Kyosera.
- controller is like GC controller but "rubbing" is possible - e.g. you can control movement in a game by rubbing the controller/buttons. Also the controller has a slot.
- The whole controller is pressure sensitive. So rubbing can be done with the buttons or via grip.
- Digital outputs included

[Floris Didden]

Reading all that, I can't help but feel excited. Interesting stuff.

[jetpack42]

SWEET! ANOTHER MARIO GAME!!

edit: that is interesting, thanks for posting this, sammy.

[MuffinMan]

a mario game with pixelshaders!

[SJ Bennighof]

I do not agree with Nintendo on some of its policies, but I was raised on it and I can say without hesitation that it is the primary innovative force in electronic gaming. Not only did it invent many of the ideas and elements of video gaming that are considered totally essential and standard in all gaming systems, it has also managed to consistently turn out excellent first-party games that utilize the specific nuances and quirks of their current systems to make a game that is, no matter what its actual quality, a work of a unique art form. Nintendo is always the galvanizer that moves the industry forward, and with the brilliant innovation and new horizons offered by the DS in control and gameplay, I am very optimistic about the Revolution.

Don't you know it's gonna be...

All right!

Don't you know it's gonna be...

All right!

[MuffinMan]

as you can all see, Nintendo has never failed us!
they are the best when it comes to game consoles.
nintendo knows how to make good games with good innovations.

[Sammy]

I'm happy with Nintendo's latest goals to attract new people to interactivity and games.

This last generation of consoles and games really did a bad job of alienating everyone that wasn't already a gamer or wasn't already male...
Yes, many were attracted by DVD technology and that pushed the industry really far (as far as #'s of consoles sold).
But the majority of those that took the vanilla-gaming rout for DVD playback only buy a total of 2-4 games on a given console....

And they have little to no potential of jumping on the next round of consoles ... not unless something changes.

[Lauren Short]

o man, i just hope something awesome is in store for the DS...i hope it wasn't all hype...then i'd be mad :\



this new revolution plan sounds cool so far

[Prometheus|ANJ]

Maybe it's some sort of 'mouse gesture' control that you shake?

I think there's been a couple of tilt controls (instead of analog stick.)

Could be a combo.


If you put a tilt sensor on a handheld you could make ball & labyrinth games.

[Sammy]

As of now, this might offer something similar to compare with: http://www.gyration.com/

gyration technology has been around for while but never implemented into consoles..
If done right, it could certainly help consoles counter any mouse/keyboard level of controls that PC offers at the same time keep things working for more traditional games.

But if the Rev has this AND gyros built in (and it's sounding like it does), then it can offer some level of 'force feedback'... depending on the amount of gyros in the controller...
Just think of something vertically spinning in it, you would feel the controller trying to be level itself..
And say you were playing a game that involved light sabers, the gyros can spin at alternate rates to give the feeling that you are actually hitting against objects...

gyros can do a lot... they balance the Segway, keep helicopters from spinning out of control ... hell when you ride a bike your wheels function as gyros to keep you vertical...
So it seems there would be limitless options to have a game communicate to a player + player communication back if this is the case with the Rev...

[Sinix]

- Name of machine is "Nintendo 21"
- planned for release at end of 2005
- medium is 2-sided 8cm disc, 5.4GB capacity, in a shellcase
- includes "Home Game function" which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity
- "Home Game function" is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and "Nintendo Home"s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network.
- "Nintendo Home" machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports "Home Game function", also sends latest info from Nintendo.
- "Nintendo Home" is being jointly developed with Kyosera.
- controller is like GC controller but "rubbing" is possible - e.g. you can control movement in a game by rubbing the controller/buttons. Also the controller has a slot.
- The whole controller is pressure sensitive. So rubbing can be done with the buttons or via grip.
- Digital outputs included


top secret?

[Floris Didden]

Rub the controler?!

[Prometheus|ANJ]

So the pressure sensitive controller has a 'slot' and you can 'rub' it, I wonder if it smells like fish too...

Maybe it's time to update this old classic (http://www.c64gg.com/Images/S/Sex_Games_ingame1.gif).

[JoshuaTheJames]

Wasn't Sega always too ahead of their time. And now they dropped out of the running. That Nomad still is a dope idea though! :teeth:

I'm interested in seeing Nintendo's moch ups.


-Joshua

[MuffinMan]

Wasn't Sega always too ahead of their time. And now they dropped out of the running. That Nomad still is a dope idea though! :teeth:

I'm interested in seeing Nintendo's moch ups.


-Joshua

oh, i loved sega. i have the dreamcast, but sold it so i could get axtra cash for my sweet 9800 pro 256mb video card.

i wish sega still made consoles, the dreamcast was so much fun.
and yeah they were always to ahead of the time. other game console companies like nintendo and sony, were persistent and beat sega. so now i stick with nintendo. i never realy like the ps2 much. most games sucked for ps2. ps2 was all hyped up. but some games make up for it. gamecube actually satisfied my tastes in gaming.

[Sammy]

- Name of machine is "Nintendo 21"
- planned for release at end of 2005
- medium is 2-sided 8cm disc, 5.4GB capacity, in a shellcase
- includes "Home Game function" which uses IEEE protocol to locate and communicate with other Nintendo 21s in the vicinity
- "Home Game function" is free, connect the AC adaptor and the machine talks to nearby Nintendo 21s and "Nintendo Home"s (? could be Form instead of Home - katakana is vague). Save data is stored on the main unit and affects other machines over the network.
- "Nintendo Home" machine is like a base station that will be put in many places and uses the PHS network for communication (popular mobile phone network). Will connect to handheld game machines and supports "Home Game function", also sends latest info from Nintendo.
- "Nintendo Home" is being jointly developed with Kyosera.
- controller is like GC controller but "rubbing" is possible - e.g. you can control movement in a game by rubbing the controller/buttons. Also the controller has a slot.
- The whole controller is pressure sensitive. So rubbing can be done with the buttons or via grip.
- Digital outputs included


top secret?


I saw this info as well, and was curious of how to take it since I can't read the source:

http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://game10.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/famicom/1106658928/l50

We're supposed to get some sort of info Thursday morning, as to Nintendo's 'Online' plan for DS and more... we'll have to wait and see :wink:

[Spacemanchuck]

Sammy you've always got the scoop!!! The gyro stuff sounds like a good bet, crazy nintindo what will they do next.

[2ma2]

Wasn't Sega always too ahead of their time. And now they dropped out of the running. That Nomad still is a dope idea though! :teeth:

I'm interested in seeing Nintendo's moch ups.


-Joshua

They do make games now. Cool at that. But I presume they're still head of their time, it seems they never can make what they REALLY want to make. Like another Panzer Dragoon Saga (which is gloriously designed!)..

[MuffinMan]

So the pressure sensitive controller has a 'slot' and you can 'rub' it, I wonder if it smells like fish too...

Maybe it's time to update this old classic (http://www.c64gg.com/Images/S/Sex_Games_ingame1.gif).

the rub and the slot, does sound quite eccentric...i mean why would we need to rub the controller? what does rubbing do? do i get to pet my character while they are in the game, rubbing sounds very sexual to me...i mean rubbing the controller...you know how it's shaped, right? *cringes* that pressure sensitivity and rubbing thing sounds like a misstep...i don't know how it could be useful, what game would require you to rub the controller?!

[Presence]

If they build in the broadband it might be a good opportunity for them to allow direct dl games, no disks.

In terms of the rubbing, I can see this as an easy progression, the technology has existed on every laptop since 98 and would allow for much more accurate control imhop over the sticks on most controllers these days.

I am sure Nintendo will put out a great machine but to be honest, they will probably take a middle of the road approach with a few gimmics they will label as "innovation". They made a decision very early on to take a firm hold on entry level design and they have perected it. Next year wont be any different.

The PS3 from what I hear is simply going to be too much

[MuffinMan]

If they build in the broadband it might be a good opportunity for them to allow direct dl games, no disks.

In terms of the rubbing, I can see this as an easy progression, the technology has existed on every laptop since 98 and would allow for much more accurate control imhop over the sticks on most controllers these days.

I am sure Nintendo will put out a great machine but to be honest, they will probably take a middle of the road approach with a few gimmics they will label as "innovation". They made a decision very early on to take a firm hold on entry level design and they have perected it. Next year wont be any different.

The PS3 from what I hear is simply going to be too much

i see, it will be quite interesting to see what they can do with it.

[jetpack42]

I hope the new Nintendo system has a wireless controller adapter for your toilet, so you can control the games based on your control of taking a dump. Talk about revolutionary! :O

[nil]

i don't know if you're just being amusing, but i don' see why anyone should poo-poo (pun intended) nintendo for trying to do something different. seems like that's exactly what the industry needs and should be striving for (including concept artists).

[jetpack42]

My post was meant to be satirical of just that, different doesn't mean good.

[nil]

well, the same doesn't mean good either. different is closer to good than the same. :teeth:

[gasmask]

i know a revolution, as much as nintento is awesome and tries they will never be able to take a decent size of the game market, their prime is long over.

[cartoonfox]

bump ^-^


just read that nintendo revolution will be the thickness of 3 dvd cases, and not much taller. it will be able to stand either verticle or horizontal, and will be able to play gamecube disks, dvd's and its dvd sized game disks in the same slot.

older news: the pad will be wireless (and may not even apear in E3) and the revolution will be wireless internest ready in the box, for free online play.



please dont turn this thread into yet another "this is better than this" war. this thread is for people who have found rumours and speculations etc about the revolution (like the title say's ^-^) and im sure as E3 is just 4 days away, this thread (and others for xbox360/ps3) will start going crazy ^-^





peace :7up:

[Scubasteve]

I think nintendo's ship has sailed. They didn't invent much of anything. They took what Atari had done, and moved it to the next level. Then Sega upped them, then Nintendo again and so fourth, until the big boys came in and took over. (Microsoft and Sony) Nintendo is playing catchup. If it wasn't for their handheld market, they would be right there with Sega. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo has made some terrific games, and thats what its all about in this industry, but I think they are on the decline. People, adults in particular see them as childrens toys. I think it would take quite a bit to bring them back to the forefront of gaming.

[bracomadar]

I'm reading this and I'm getting the thought of a power glove, with force feedback technology. I see a mental picture of picking up objects in a game and being able to feel the pressure you are applying to them coming back to you. Say you pick up a glass and squeeze it too hard, it will shatter, or you can pick up a sword and wave it at your opponents to block, or whatever. You could throw grenades and it will throw them as far as would in real life. Imagine playing a baseball game with this. Of course I’d rather play the real thing, but sometimes throwing nades around on a rainy day isn’t that much fun :bashful:

[wassermelone]

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IF this is real then the revolution is stranger than we imagined. Or the most elaborate fake ever created.

POSSIBLY THE FIRST VIDEO OF THE REVOLUTION.

http://onefed.com/media/NintendoON.wmv

Looks fake...
But who in their right would spend the time and effort to fake this?
Who would even dream of faking something like this?

-toasty

[Sammy]

That video was awesome,

over at IGN they confirmed that it was a fake

[wassermelone]

How?

As in... how did IGN confirm it was a fake? Link please!

-toasty

[Sammy]

oops, sorry I thought I posted link --- :bashful: That video is freakin awesome though.

if the poorly done Samus and Mario doesnt show it - then the mistake whith the GC date (2002) shows it, that's the European date GC came out in 2001 --- they call mario 128 "Marios 100" for some reason too...

http://cube.ign.com/articles/613/613578p1.html

[cartoonfox]

sammy you lucky bastard, have fun at E3 man ^-^


anyway, here is the first ever comfirmed shot of the nintendo revolution
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/rev175_1.jpg
its real low-res, i think it was ment to be a thumbnail or something, but anyway, looks real slick, not the ussual nintendo style...
apparentey there are no buttons or ports at all (unless they're hidden or something, though i can see somthing that looks like buttons there...) so im guessing with the pads you just "tune in" to a certain channel (like in the wave birds) or something, and the internet is wireless too, but how do you turn it on/off?

anyway, i sure am looking forward to seeing higher res shots of it, from different angles. *drooosl* ^-^

also, it has no been comfired that it will play dvd movies, so thats cool for anyone wanting that feature. and like i mentioned before, its backwards compatable with gamecube games in the same disk slot.

the nintendo conference is at 9am cali time, so thats *counts* in 30 minutes!!!, cant wait. although the nintendo (european) website as gone down due to too many people trying to access the E3 info ^-^
so i'll have to look out for stuff elsewhere





peace all :7up:

[cartoonfox]

more renders
http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/615/615030/imgs_1.html

looks like there are buttons for on/off, reset and open/close of the disk slot, maybe i missread the info before ^-^


anyway, im confused as to whether it is actually called revolution or not, as there is a revolution logo on the renders, but maybe thats just to not give away the real name?... *shrugs*


anyway, all will be revelealed... about now! shit i better go off to gamestop ^-^



peace :7up:

[glikster]

someone had to do it!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/glikster/pglove1.jpg

Darn... braco already mentioned it...

[Odds]

the nintendo conference is over, and the controller's haven't even been announced. nintendo is done for :/

[0kelvin]

But Nintendo also revealed what it describes as its "secret weapon" - the console also will have downloadable access to 20 years of fan-favorite titles originally released for Nintendo 64, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) and even the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES).


Now that is badass.



0kelvin

[cartoonfox]

the nintendo conference is over, and the controller's haven't even been announced. nintendo is done for :/


... excuse me?

this was the pre-E3 conference! E3 hasnt even started yet, the next 3 days will be where everyone starts puping out the info and media on everything, nintendo included




peace :7up:

[Presence]

Well in just seeing the E3 video of the revolution it is more than obvious as to how BEHIND nintendo really is. Gamecube was late in E3 with promises that it would never happen again and now look, Revolution is no different.

You go to E3 without controllers! Are you kidding me! Then you promise it is going to be even smaller, this is not a hand held you guys! I'm glad they discovered something called the internet.

There isn't enough backwards comp in the world to save this machine. With 360 and PS3 comming out so strong the gap between the rev and those consoles will be even larger than the ps2/xbox/cube.

And the rev is going to fall straight into it.

Good luck Rev fans.

[Scubasteve]

I couldn't agree more. Nintendo is on the way out. I would hate to buy another console that they will stop making games for a year from now. There focus has obviously shifted to their last stake. (The handheld market.) I predict they'll be making games for PS4, and xbox 3!

They can beat their Donkey Kong bongos till the cows come home!

[Artguy]

My guess is Nintendo's "Revolution" involves something online. Maybe they want to be the IPOD of the game world? The machine is small, portable, backwards compatible and has some sort of online store support.

I'm expecting the big news to be something to do with easy online interaction. Online play? Game subscriptions service? Downloadable game features? A new way of buying and playing games.

A smart move for them is to not try and compete in the tech geek war. Let PS3 and XBOX slug out to be the king of tech, while loosing money on their machines. Instead ,side step them and create a new market. Maybe low pricepoint the machine, offer a subscription based game service.

Imagine if a parent could just subscribe to Nintendos online game store for a monthly fee and leave the kid to then play anything they wanted on the Nintendo game store. Easy no hassel entertainment for your kids.

Hey Scuba? You play any WoW? There is a Scubasteve on my WoW server.

[cartoonfox]

yeah, the online part of revolution is a big part.
it will be be wireless, and completley free. no subscription of anykind.
also, not only can you play gamecube games, but there is a huge online archive of every single game on every nintendo home console (dunno about gameboy games) all the way from nes up to gamecube games. i look forward to getting my n64 games back, which i needed to sell to get enough money for my gamecube ^-^

i dont know about the price, but im guessing it will be pretty cheap, atleast compared to 360 and ps3.

and to you guys who dont like nintendo/revolution, well thats great you think that way of nintendo, but try not to post here everytime you feel the urge to bad mouth them, this thread is to talk about the revolution, not diss it. make a new thread if you really want to...




peace :7up:

[thebob]

bet you any money nintendo reveals rev controler on last day of e3 and owns everybody,
heres hopin :)

[cartoonfox]

bet you any money nintendo reveals rev controler on last day of e3 and owns everybody,
heres hopin :)

lol, well im guessing it will be shown as a suprise either today or tommorrow, E3 is ussually full of suprises, from all companies.

whether it will own everyone or not... it could be the most awesome thing ever, and ps3 fans would still not be impressed ^-^
it will impress me though... like you said, here's hoping ^-^

nice to see a friendly face around here ^-^ now that sammy is gone away for E3, im kinda on my own here ^-^




peace :7up:

[Scubasteve]

No Artguy, I havent gotten WoW yet, but have been meaning to. How is it? Is it better then FFXI IYO?

Don't get me wrong guys, I welcome competition, the more companies that are in this the better, and I dont have any ill will for Nintendo. I still have very fond memories of many of there games, I just think they have lost there focus to some degree.

About the WAY-backwards Downloadable games and so fourth, While I think thats really cool, I dunno if its quite cool enough to keep them afloat. I would imagine its prodominatly the old school gamers who would be interested in the pre 64 games, and they would probably opt for a more mature system anyway.

When does E3 end? IS Saturday the last day? Aren't all the big revelations over after a few days?

[cartoonfox]

E3's last day is tomorrow. and i think it opens today in about 2 and a half hours. (sucks im 8 hours ahead of LA time ^-^)




peace :7up:

[Prometheus|ANJ]

A lot less has been revealed about the Rev than about the PS3/Xbox360 right? Maybe too early to draw any conclusions about 'winners and losers' then?

I think they're creating too much hype around the controller, which could be damaging if it's just a touchscreen thing that's tilt sensitive or something relatively simple, which I think they suggested it were... (simple but so far not used in controllers). DC had the little screen memory card though.

The design is gonna be important too. Everyone enjoy mocking joypad designs.

Why is it so small? I wouldn't care if it had 3 times the mass.

[cartoonfox]

nintendo revolution | what we know so far

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/revolution%20pics/2.jpg

this is just a run down of everything we know about the revolution so far, in one place so people can find the infomation easily.



well, to start off, the name, "revolution" is still a codename. nintendo havent decided on a final name for it yet, although they said the same thing about nintendo DS being a codename, untill it became its actual name, so who knows...

as for the design, the console shown at E3 is still a prototype. the final console will be smaller, lighter, and maybe a slightly different design. the colours shown are also just temp. nintendo havent decided on the final colour(s) of the console, so it may not be jet black when released

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/revolution%20pics/1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/revolution%20pics/5.jpg


it can be placed either flat down, or vertical, using a stand. the actual size hasn't been given, but its about the size of 3 dvd cases put together. and like i said before, it will get a bit smaller before its launched.
almost nothing about the specs have been released at all, but what is known is that it has 512 MB of flash memory, which will be used for downloadable content and game saves. the memory can be ugraded (a bit like a pc) using an SD memory card, placed behind the flap at the front of the machine. below the blue light. it also has one dual-format front-loading disk drive (the blue light), which can read both dvd's and gamecube disks, wireless controllers, 2 USB 2.0 ports, and built in wi-fi support.
when placed verticle on the stand, the console tilts back, which makes the perspective in some photos confusing, but you can see a clear picture below. im not sure if this stand will be the final design, but i like the slanted look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/revolution%20pics/7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/revolution%20pics/6.jpg

online gaming will be ready at launch, and is set to play a big (if not huge) part of the revolution. currentley a super smash bros. sequal has been comfired as a launch game and will be wi-fi online enabled. square-enix has also comfired they are making a final fantisy game for revolution, which will also be online in some way. there has also been hints that an animal crossing game is also in the works, which would most definatley be online. this online feature will be completley free, no subscription is needed, just take the revolution out the box and you can connect to every other revolution owner. this online feature is being made with IGN's gamespy, like the DS online features.

one thing that came as a nice suprise to most, is the fact that you will be able to download a back catalogue of nintendo games from every single console ever made. all the way up to N64. the ultimate backwards-compatible ^-^ apparentley nintendo still havent decided whether or not to charge for downloading each game. nintendo have also said that they are in talks with other companies to try and get 3rd party games to join the archive. i just really hope i can download snowboard kids and silicon valley for N64 ^-^
for the gamecube games, there is a flap on the side of the revolution that has 4 gamecube pad slots and 2 memory card slots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/revolution%20pics/3.jpg

it is still not been comfired that revolution will be able to play high-definition games, although this has been rumoured for a long time. shigsy simply said when asked, "im not sure if i can say yet" ^-^ although IGN thinks it will be able to support atleast 480p, and maybe 720p or 1080p, seeing as nintendo said at one point you would be able to hook the revolution up to a computer monitor.


next, the big question, why wasn't more shown at E3, and when will we see more ^-^
well, in interviews with several nintendo guys, the main reason that came up in all of them was that they dont want to release the controler and info on what makes the revolution a revolution, untill both sony and microsoft have made their specs and designs set in stone. shigeru myamoto had said that in the past others had stolen ideas and used them in their own consoles. he said that it happend when they released the analouge stick, sony then used it in their design, then the rumble feature, sony and microsoft then used it, then wireless controllers, now all console controllers are wireless. they dont want to make the same mistake yet again, so they are waiting. it is thought that we should know more by the end of the year, seeing as xbox360 will be released in the US in november. at one interview (http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617814p1.html), nintendo president satoru iwata further comfirmed this by saying that although right now they are keeping many secrets of the revolution, he feels that by the end of the year they really need to reveale to the worldwide audience what the mysterious proposals they have are all about. so we should be gettin bits of infomation throughout the next coming months, and hopefully by christmas we'll know almost everything the revolution has to offer.


well, i think thats everything so far, although there has been little E3 official news, there have been loads of things said in interviews and stuff, so im sure i've missed some info here and there. if anyone has anything else, please add it to this thread. and i'll be posting when and if i get anything thing else. although E3 is almost over (just a few hours left)


hope you enjoyed that ^-^






peace :7up:

[Presence]

well, in interviews with several nintendo guys, the main reason that came up in all of them was that they dont want to release the controler and info on what makes the revolution a revolution, untill both sony and microsoft have made their specs and designs set in stone. shigeru myamoto had said that in the past others had stolen ideas and used them in their own consoles. he said that it happend when they released the analouge stick, sony then used it in their design, then the rumble feature, sony and microsoft then used it, then wireless controllers, now all console controllers are wireless. they dont want to make the same mistake yet again, so they are waiting. it is thought that we should know more by the end of the year, seeing as xbox360 will be released in the US in november. at one interview, nintendo president satoru iwata further comfirmed this by saying that although right now they are keeping many secrets of the revolution, he feels that by the end of the year they really need to reveale to the worldwide audience what the mysterious proposals they have are all about. so we should be gettin bits of infomation throughout the next coming months, and hopefully by christmas we'll know almost everything the revolution has to offer. ='s "Oh my gosh we are screwed!!!" Nintendo has once and for all had it's ass handed to them. Next thing you know they are going to put Metroid on horseback. Everyone is seeing right through this smokescreen, Iwata's comments are like Honda saying "No wait, don't show the new car because it has air conditioning then all the other car designers will put air conditioning as an option in their designs." Give us a break, I used to be a HUGE nintendo fan and to be honest I have watched this dynasty commit suicide one too many times. They fell behind, they had no idea that PS3 and X360 were going to be at this kind of level and they are bottom line scared. Mario, Zelda and Met all in the same game driving around in carts couldn't save Nintendo now. Or LOL Nintendogs for that matter.

This being a speculation thread, I speculate that within the next six years Nintendo is going to balancing on the border between going under and being bought out. The revolution is going to be a second household console purchase at best. The gap is simply too big now.

[NoUseFrAName]

Nintendo will be around for a long time to come.
to develop a game it already costs 10-20 million....with the specs on the PS3 and the XBox360, there's not a snowball's chance in hell that any independent developer will be able to put something together for one of those systems that meets the quality that people are expecting.
With Nintendo, who has always been more focused on GAMEPLAY, I think it'd be far more appealing to companies that don't have the budget of EA, to make games that people will be able to appreciate without having them photo-real featuring cut scenes every 5 seconds.
...not to mention that Nintendo is definitely going to own with their new controller....even if it's not as outrageous as we're imagining, it's definitely going to offer some new element to the gameplay.

the G's: guns, graphics, gore, girls and gears....while at the forefront of most concepter's minds, they have never been key elements in the fun-ness/enjoyability of a game.

-Rob

[silverslash]

You hit the nail on the head bro. I thought it would be obvious by now but i guess people are pretty hard headed.

Nintendo is Aiming on purpose to be a secondary console!
they cannot compete with sony or microsoft period , both companies can put systems out, lose massive amounts of money and still bully nintendo out of bussines

nintendo has found its niche, as a companion system to either ps3 or xbox.
thats is why the revolution is coming out later than both systems and will be cheap as dirt in comparison to ps3 and xbox prices.




='s "Oh my gosh we are screwed!!!" Nintendo has once and for all had it's ass handed to them. Next thing you know they are going to put Metroid on horseback. Everyone is seeing right through this smokescreen, Iwata's comments are like Honda saying "No wait, don't show the new car because it has air conditioning then all the other car designers will put air conditioning as an option in their designs." Give us a break, I used to be a HUGE nintendo fan and to be honest I have watched this dynasty commit suicide one too many times. They fell behind, they had no idea that PS3 and X360 were going to be at this kind of level and they are bottom line scared. Mario, Zelda and Met all in the same game driving around in carts couldn't save Nintendo now. Or LOL Nintendogs for that matter.

This being a speculation thread, I speculate that within the next six years Nintendo is going to balancing on the border between going under and being bought out. The revolution is going to be a second household console purchase at best. The gap is simply too big now.

[Conchobhar]

What a slimy industry.

I predict that Nintendo will open videogames to indie developers and finally it shall gain indie cred as a legitimate artform, so pompous artistes like me can continue gaming with snooty satisfaction, and big money console-makers like Sony and MS will be as shallow as cinema. It's been happening for a while—new games reaching budgets equal to that of Hollywood productions, and now Nintendo claiming to have the independent publishers in mind with the Revolution—and soon we'll see some really interesting and creative works of art appearing on a console.

Indie film. Indie music. Indie games? Seriously, this would be a boon.

That aside, I hope they re-release NES, SNES, and N64 controllers, for full nostalgia. The zapper, too!

[cartoonfox]

- just a small update on the software side of things for revolution -


nintendo have comfirmed to making super smash bros. for revolution's launch. which will be online.
they have also comfirmed they're making revolution versions of metroid prime, zelda and mario, plus a new franchise for revolution (like pikmin was for gamecube).
im not sure if its cofirmed but its been hinted that either the new mario or zelda will also be at launch.
(by the way, metroid prime 3 is being developed on gamecube dev kits, till the revolution ones are finished because apparently the dev kits are similar. which is why it didnt look that impressive, atleast for next gen (although it looked pretty nice) andrew jones, correct me if im wrong ^-^)

square-enix have comfirmed support for revolution, and are making a new final fantisy game (people who didnt like ff:cc for gamecube, dont worry, that wasnt made by square-enix, it was made by "the game des!gners studios", this ff will actually be made by sqaure-enix this time) and has been comfiremd it will be online in some form or other. dont know if it will be a true online game, or just have an online mode.

EA have said they are supporting revolution, and are currenty making atleast 1 game, which will also be on xbox360 (not sure about ps3). i dont know if it will be online or not.

ubisoft (one of my favourate 3rd party) have also said they will be supporting. they are currentley making a revolution game, though im not sure if its an exclusive or gonna be on the other next gen consoles too. my guess (wish) is that its a new splinter cell ^-^

bandai have just anounced their support for revolution, though i have no idea if they are working on a game or plan too. this also suggests that namco might jump on-board too. seeing as they seem to be nintendos new best friend ^-^ i think this could be true


anyway, just thought i'd update for people interested.
and looks like some poeple still feel the need to try and tell nintendo's future on this thread ^-^





peace all :7up:

[Scubasteve]

Correct me if Im wrong, but it does read speculation in the thread title, does it not?

[HugeHarHar]

I wouldn't be surprised, I would be extremmly happy, if Capcom joined the Nintendo wagon. In fact I'm fairly sure they will. Between remaking, and making the new, Resident Evils, they worked on the Gameboy Zeldas. I'm pretty certian Capcom's gonna be there.

And I'll be happy.

[jetpack42]

I can't wait to play another Mario game!

edit: touche Rob, but...the problem is there is hardly anything OTHER then (insert franchise released that year) to play. And personally, I don't find most of those games any fun to begin with.

[NoUseFrAName]

I speculate that it will be different from other Mario games.
...none of that Devil May Cry, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil(excluding 4), GTA, THPS, THUG, NHL, Halo, etc. stuff where they just recycle the last game in the series.
Mario, Paper Mario, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Kart, Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, Dr. Mario, Mario Party, oi, there have been a lot of incarnations of those characters...constantly presented in a new way. Impressive really.

-Rob

[nil]

sadly, it doesnt sound like the revolution is going to be indie-friendly after all :(

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/nintendo/nintendo-revolution-homebrew-likelihood-not-good-104204.php

being indie-friendly would have been revolutionary...

[cartoonfox]

lol, you didnt really think that they ment anyone could make revolution games, did you?

i think they just ment that small developers with small budgets (ie the complete opasite of EA ^-^) can still make great, big budget looking games on revolution ^-^







peace :7up:

[nil]

well, i just read the article, i wasnt aware that it was being speculated about before i read that...

imagine, though, that nintendo did allow indie developers to run homebrew code out of the box. what with their free multiplayer across the internet, they could even have some sort of system like Steam, where indie developers could get syndicated and distributed via an official download system. revolutionary? i think so. it would give the platform a massively extended life span and im sure it would generate massive sales. Valve knew the value of their independent mod community, look where supporting them has gotten them - why not do something similair with a hardware platform? better than dual-touch-sensitive-vr-3d-accelerated-smell-like-fish controllers if you ask me...

[Conchobhar]

lol, you didnt really think that they ment anyone could make revolution games, did you?

i think they just ment that small developers with small budgets (ie the complete opasite of EA ^-^) can still make great, big budget looking games on revolution ^-^







peace :7up:

Even indie filmmakers need sizable budgets for their movies. Now, the Swedish art film equivalent of videogames being made for Revolution would rock my world.

[cartoonfox]

just a small update...


NOA's vice president george harrison just comfiremed in a interview (at various came sites) that the nintendo 1st party games for nes, snes and n64 are indeed completley free to download.
if 3rd party companies want to charge for their old games, i dont think nintendo can do much, but atleast the 1st party ones are free ^-^



i'll keep the updates coming ^-^





peace :7up:

[John]

Now if the third party games were free as well, i'd be converted to the Nintendo religion again. Thanks for keeping the updates, cartoonfox!

[Floris Didden]

I swear, I'm more exited to play a Link to the Past on the revolutions then anything else.

[John]

I got A Link To The Past from the internet (i still own the original cartridge, so it's not exactly illegal), and i've got an adapter to hook my PS2 pad to my computer. The adapters are amazing, you can get them really cheap and they work like a charm. At least mine did, don't know the brand, but it cost me ~8 euro which should be about $10.
I played through the complete game in a matter of days, was a blast. Playing it on the computer screen is even better than TV, I wish i could afford a HD TV. If the controller is good and it's easy to download the games, the Revolution sounds like a great deal. Plus it's something else to have the games on a console than playing them on an emulator which is just not the same.
I think making it not too powerful should give them the advantage of offering the system at a good price. If the games are good and cheap, I'll go with that. Maybe you can hook it up to a computer screen as well, i don't like TV's all that much since i don't even watch regular programs anymore.

[cartoonfox]

well, i dont think this has been officialy comfiremed, but it has been said in many interviews, that you can indeed connect to a computer moniter as well as the tv. plus the revolution will support HD games just like xbox360 and ps3, incase anyone has that kind of money ^-^

also, as of this time, the "2-3 times more powerfull than gamecube" info has been comfiremed as false infomation. so right now its anyones guess how powerfull the revolution will be, though the price is rumoured to be around the $200 mark.



i'll keep updating ^-^




peace :7up:

[cartoonfox]

just some polls i've found around the place about which next-gen consoles people want...

famitsu weekley
1. Nintendo Revolution - 42.2%
2. Sony PlayStation 3 - 39.8%
3. Microsoft Xbox 360 - 18.0%


EAgames home page (here (http://www.eagames.com/redesign/home.jsp))
1. Nintendo Revolution 50%
2. Sony PlayStation 3 30%
3. Microsoft Xbox 360 19%
(Total votes: 49605)


i read somewhere that a site (UK probably) had xbox360 as first, and i dont know about revolution and ps3, though i cant find that pole.

i also heard that the snk playmore US website had a pole, asking which they should develop for, and about 70% was revolution, though i cant seem to find that poll either.






peace :7up:

[Nero's Master]

Badass, Fox. Thanks for the updates. Can't wait for this baby to hit shelves. Until that time, though, looks like I'll be waiting for the new Zelda. :3 Man O Man, can't wait to play old games again. :teeth:

[I0N]

I like those polls but for some reason I dont believe ea will do anything about it (they might though since they are money driven) its sad though that so many are so quick to put nintendo down. It was even excluded from the choices for next gen consoles here on the forums...

Long Live Nintendo! this is kinda obvious but I read that the way they built the revolution it would be real quiet and quick to load games, unlike the gamecube (was I the only one to notice the noise in games like eternal darkness in the cinema scenes?)

did you guys read the Gamers manifesto someone posted? its a good read.

[cartoonfox]

I like those polls but for some reason I dont believe ea will do anything about it (they might though since they are money driven) its sad though that so many are so quick to put nintendo down. It was even excluded from the choices for next gen consoles here on the forums...

Long Live Nintendo! this is kinda obvious but I read that the way they built the revolution it would be real quiet and quick to load games, unlike the gamecube (was I the only one to notice the noise in games like eternal darkness in the cinema scenes?)

did you guys read the Gamers manifesto someone posted? its a good read.

well, from a sales point of view, i hope that EA realises that bringing all its games on revolution as well as the other two will boost sales. to be honest EA is not that bad at releasing games on gamecube, the only title i can think of that we dont get right now at some point is burnout, which sucks cos one and 2 were both awesome (i still play them now) and i want to get the others. so i hope EA will bring the next gen burnout to revolution, and support it with all its games (to please the casuals ^-^)

yeah, the gamecube had super fast loading times, but it was a bit noisy with some games, the worst iv'e heard is with splinter cell 2 ^-^
the revolution will continue to have fast loading times, and will be very quiet. also low power comsumption apparentely, which is great seeing as i will be living on my own soon so i need to save every penny i can on bills ^-^

nice to see another friendly face here ^-^



nero - hehe no problem, also, when mario kart come out on DS, we gota race, to see who really is the best ^-^





just one thing, i cant find the article right now, but hideo kojima, the metalgear solid brain, has suggested great interest in revolution. its really strange, he use food analogies to explain each console, describing revolution as a "great steak you can have every day" and xbox360 as "something you would have once or twice a month"... probably taken out of context a bit, but once i find the article i'll post it up. anyway, heres hoping metal gear solid can come back to nintendo ^-^



as allways i'll keep updating when i can





peace :7up:

[Nero's Master]

Hell yeah. :teeth: I played the ds kart at e3 wtih two guys that were there and a girl in Seattle. I made second (sadness) but just by a tad. Can't wait. :D

[nil]

"The Japanese newspaper Asahi Shinbun's Friday edition featured an article with comments taken from the heads of the three console makers: Microsoft senior vice president and chief Xbox officer Robert J. Bach, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi, and Nintendo president Satoru Iwata."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/31/news_6126725.html

Nintendo seems to be really promoting the family thing. I liked this: "Nintendo is a company that likes to see smiles on the faces of people that love entertainment. We're not about selling new kinds of TVs or taking control of the living room."

It does sound like Sony just wants to push sales of their HDTVs.

[nil]

a little more concrete info:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/622/622876p1.html?fromint=1

i knew free downloadable legacy games sounded too good to be true :(

[cartoonfox]

hmm, i apolagise, im sure someone at nintendo comfiremd that the 1st party games would be free. im sorry.
but then again someone at nintendo also comfirmed that revolution was 2-3 times more powerful than gamecube, which was later prooved to be false infomation. apart from reggie most of the US nintendo people keep comfirming all this false info. reggie needs to slap them in the face a few times ^-^


anyway, ... actually i forgot what i was going to write. ah well, it'll come to me later

thanks for the update nil





peace :7up:

[nil]

no worries.

quite a few places were saying the same thing - that the old games would be downloadable for free. should have remembered the old saying: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

i think it's about time Nintendo gave up some REAL CONFIRMED info about the Revolution, the rumour mill is working over-time on this one.

[cartoonfox]

well, this thread hasnt been touched in a while, i think sammy should change the title to just "the revolution thread" or something ^-^
there's been small bits of info here and there, but i dont feel like posting it all ^-^ you probably know most of it anyway.


but i found this sonic video, but its wmv and i cant watch it, but apparantley its good
http://www.sonicstadium.org/games/nextgen/movies/tech_demo.wmv

so apparentley, some woman in the video says that it is in real time (not pre-rendered). and i heard that apparently sega has confirmed that they are heavy in development for revolution games and how they prefer to keep the sonic franchise on nintendo platforms so they dont tarnish the name [sonic].

but again, i havent seen the video, so take this all with a pinch of salt, it could be a hoax or something, i dunno

if anyone some how has the abillity to change the video to quicktime format, that would be awesome. or maybe take some screens or something...





peace :7up:

[Shinryu]

hello, here you go

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture8.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture11.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture17.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture20.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture13.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture23.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture24.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture25.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture26.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/Shinryu-k-/Picture27.jpg


I found it quite strange when it went into first person and sonic started throwing ring containers around? , new direction?


-shin

[cartoonfox]

bump and update! : ]

this years GDC started yesterday (22nd) in san francisco, and although there isn't really any new news yet (iwata will be giving his speach today) IGN did take a load of photos of the revolution unit on display there.

go check it out http://revolution.ign.com/articles/697/697733p1.html

Interesting to finaly see the back of the unit...


peace :7up:

[yAdam]

Cool! I just checked, and I think he is speaking at around 6 GMT.. Hopefully he'll say something interesting.

[Olof]

Yarr!
They're not releasing it until november or something?

Oh why this tease :/

.hugs

[geoffd]

EDIT - DOH!!! i just read a few more posts, no free downloads. looks like i'll stick to R**s :(


if you can download nes and snes games for free with this "Revolution", then i am offically back to being a Nintendo fanboy. my DS has started the push (thanks animal xing and mario kart), but this new system could be the final straw!

[Spacemanchuck]

The Revolution looks georgouse, and the controler is looking cooler and cooler to me. But like Geoffd said, this could be Nintendos last chance with me too, I love Nintindo, but I'm just tired my GC sitting and collecting dust. They need to step it up abit with this one, game volume wise (good 3rd party games), and maybe let the Nintindo's content catch up with its age...

That said, I can't wait for the damn thing.

[cartoonfox]

Hey, some new stuff...
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/699/699118p1.html

apparently, the "Broadway" CPU is slightly lower than the original xbox's.
and the "Hollywood" GPU is a little higher than the original xbox's.
and the RAM is a bit more higher than the original xbox's.

i don't really know what all the numbers mean, I'm just using the comparisons.

i saw PGR3 in dixons playing on a huge HD screen, and it looked (coming from a fanboy's mouth) amazing!
then i saw the same game in a small games shop, playing on a regular tube tv, and it looked really great, but like a xbox game.
so i think what nintendo have been saying about their rev games looking the same as the "competition" on regular 480p screens was correct.
i can't wait to finally see some rev screen shots and movies though! just over a month waiting to go!! : ]


and on a related note (http://revolution.ign.com/articles/699/699037p1.html), Pandemic CEO Josh Resnick had a few things to say about revolution at the GDC,
"Well, the Revolution is a very different platform, and we've actually just seen some things behind closed doors that are just mind-blowing," he said. "Very, very exciting. They're doing something that's very different and unique."
This gets me excited!!

weird thing is, when i checked this article yesterday, it also had a quote from someone at another games company, i can't remember which one, not sure why that one was edited out...


anyway, some positive new stuff all round then... well maybe not so much for the graphic whores : p
but im sure revolution is gonna look great. i mean, xbox has some pretty nice looking games, right? : ]



peace

[GHill]

Yeah, I read the specs last night. I don't know much about the numbers either, but it's looking like they are delivering exactly what there said they would: 2-3 times the power of the Gamecube. Which is fine by me. The Gamecube was less powerful than the Xbox, but if you look at the games, not by much. Like the Rouge Squadron game that launched with the Gamecube still looks amazing to me. Double that and I'm sure the graphics will be up on the next-level. I'm not too worried about the graphics, the controller will sell the system.

And then there is that other "secret" that hasn't been revealed. They've got another card up their sleeve. Something big enough to make a developer say that it is "mind-blowing". E3 can't come quick enough.

[cartoonfox]

Indeed GHill!!

Plus, the comparisons made by IGN are pretty much useless. It's like comparing an iMac 2ghz G5 next to a PC with 3.5ghz. The mac is way faster just with that infomation alone. (my friend has 1.256gb RAM compared to my Mac with just 512mb RAM and my mac still kicks his ass! : ])

I find Josh Resnick's comments extremley exciting. using those words can only mean great, great things in store for us!!

like you said, BRING ON E3!!! (just wish i could go!)



peace

[cartoonfox]

on a side note, join my group y'all!! : ]
http://community.conceptart.org/groups/?id=60


peace

[Tobin]

remember the drunken mariokart sessions on the n64 ? with your friends ? well i didnt really get the same joy out of the gamecube.. i mean I love the gamecube, but there was nothing new to the multiplayer aspect, but the revolution is gonna be so much fun..

as far as power goes i dont care, i'd still play nintendo if it where still 8bit because nintendo makes great games wether it be the original donkey kong or metroidprime 2 .. any first party game i've played by nintendo has been more fun than most 3rd party releases i've played put together, i have no machoism about watching a 3 foot tall italian mascot running around jumping koopas and running away from ghosts and eating mushrooms.. its all rather subversive if you think about it :D

[Prometheus|ANJ]

I think it's important to understand that the screenshots companies release from games are nearly always from a perspective that isn't used during gameplay. Homeworld comes to mind as an example here, but RTS games in general do it a lot. Screenshots are carefully planned perfectly frozen scenes with compositionally placed detailed foreground characters etc. Some games could aswell be playstation 1 games when you actually play them.

Still, physics, AI and handling of tons of objects does require a lot of CPU...

[yAdam]

Found this today: First revolution game? (http://mozlapunk.web-log.nl/log/5500832)

It's got screenshots and info about a game called red steel, developed by ubisoft.

I think these shots are 'set up' but to be honest I am pretty impressed if the revolution produce that. I am more than happy with what current games look like, so those are great, and if ubisoft can pull off what they claim it will probably be awesome!

[CaptainInsano]

Personally, I'm holding out on the xbox360 and the PS3 so I can get the REVOLUTION!!! and if that Bob Ross game is legit, I will be one of those guys first in line to get it!

[Spacemanchuck]

I like the look of those screen shots Adam. I'm begining to get very excited about the Revolution. Actually the future of gaming is a much more exciting place becuase of Nintendo. How boring would it be if all there was to choose from was xbox and playstation? Maybe we would still have a Sega if things had gone differently...

Look how Friggin tiny it is, it looks so cool, I can't wait. Is there a set release date? I can't remember...
http://www.sg.hu/kep/2005_05/0518nintendo4.jpg

[Spacemanchuck]

Huge news, here's what the Revolution's ground breaking controlers really look like.
http://www.retrogames.co.uk/stock/assets/images/Mach_-_Atari_VCS_Paddles.jpg

Might as well put up some usefull information. I'm amped that we will be able to use GC controlers and memory cards. But if this design is final it would make useing them very awkward. You would have to leave the side(top) panels open all the time if you used your old controlers much. What do you guys think?

http://www.game-machines.com/consoles/syspics/nintendo-revolution-side.jpg

[MuffinMan]

Ken Kutaragi: Microsoft is trailing behind us, but they are not a threat. They are good at improving [on products], but we will be advancing to the next level with revolutionary technology. Beating us for a short moment is like accidentally winning a point from a Shihan (Karate master), and Microsoft is still not a black belt. Just like with their operating systems, they might come out with something good around the third generation of their release.

It isn't a bad thing to have a high price. When we released the original PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($368), Nintendo's Super Famicom was in the 10,000 yen range ($100 range). Still, everyone went for the PlayStation. This time, ours [the PS3] will be like a BMW that's equipped with a Ferrari engine. Nintendo's [Revolution] will be something like a new model of a family car. Some people might want it, but if it was me, I'd want to advance to the next level.

He has a big mouth, he really does.

Anyways i'm saving up for the revolution this summer. can't wait! it's gonna be the best system out there.

[Scubasteve]

Gezzz. Thats pretty arrogant. He sounds like a jerk.

Im taking a wait nd see approach. Sounds like alot could change in the future to be sure....