Fantastic Four Trailer

[Upstart]

Don't know if anyone has checked out the twenty seconds of Fantastic Four trailer footage that is online yet, you can find it at Fantastic Four Preview (http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/DEFGH/Fantastic-Four/trailer.php) (click on the "MTV Trailer footage" button), but I gotta say I am a little...um...lets say concerned about what I am seeing. I guess I figured that the comic would be in good hands, but I may have been a little naive in that assumption. Just tossing it out there for you guys to take a look at.

The full trailer comes out with Elektra, so maybe that is the preview worth talking about, but what is in the clip online is shaky at best.

[Floris Didden]

I share your concern.

[nicolas]

WTF??? Ben Grimm looks like a frickin orange burn victim! Crap-ola.

[N D Hill]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Didn't you know that all super hero movies, especially ones with big effects budgets are always way cool? Jeez, the Incredable Hulk should've been proof enough for that!

[Presence]

They need to leave comic book material ALONE, end of story. I cant even imagine the hell Singer will be living in if he ruins Superman.

The problem with this material is two fold, the content in terms of the screenplay and the visuals. It is hard enought to bring together a successful feature let alone a successful feature with an already established fan base.....which means....EXPECTATIONS.

It just blows me away that people are comming up with original ideas for film on a day to day basis yet we just flock to this re heated leftover BS!!!

Jee I wonder if the F4 will win in the end? Will they stop doom? Jee wiz I hope there is a romantic subplot too!!! AAAARRRGHHHHHH!!! It kills me, just kills me.

You know what I want, I want Doom to win, I want him to take the head off of the thing and use it as a bowling ball. I want some creative directors to get ahold of this material and actually make it into something which....and I may be wrong here....takes it beyond the comics.

Isn't that what film is about, taking something and making it more than we could have ever imagined, more than any paper and pen could ever bring us yet there we sit wondering how they could have gone so wrong.

And F4 will be no different.

[SJ Bennighof]

The quality of the movie that that trailer foretells, dreary as it is, is not even slightly as important in my mind as the response of the crowd on the MTV footage. Proof that this kind of damned stuff is here to stay and getting more and prevalent.

That being said, I liked the first Batman, and Spiderman 1&2, particularly 2. X-men was good as well, aided mostly by the inclusion of Stewart and McKellan and their respective stellar performances. Hulk...the crazy extent to which they took Banner's rage=size%strength thing was interesting, but the actual movie itself was awful, just awful. Fantastic Four looks to be either even worse, or a surprise success.

[Black Jesus]

i don't really see what the problem is with this footage. i'm not a FF reader or anything so i'm not pretending to really know what i'm talking about as far as characters and what not, but could someone please explain what it is about this footage that looks so bad? because i see people all over the net saying this looks horrible and i just don't understand why. it looks pretty good to me. :shrug:

[JoshuaTheJames]

boycott...

[Beer Baron]

Bahh, this looks like crap. If you want to see a good Fantastic 4 movie, the just watch "The Incredibles."

[Upstart]

I guess I at least figured from a special effect, or pure popcorn movie standpoint the people on the FF4 would have brought more to the table than what I saw in the clip. Its still pretty early though, and a lot of people in the production seem to have faith in the pic, so maybe it will turn out worth the cost of a matinee ticket.

Presence: I agree with you, if they are going to take an established story they should makes something new out of it. With all the themes and character flaws that they could explore with these guys, the movie probably won't even scratch the surface. I mean the villian is a power hungry, narccasistic CEO character and it seems like they think he has to have superpowers and a full suit of metal armor to be evil.

Black Jesus: Mainly I think the complaints are that Ben Grimm/The Thing just looks too fake, like a guy in a big orange prosthetic and that Dr. Doom is too much of a straight translation and looks kinda ridiculous in full metal armor. Plus a lot of the effects look dated, like Mr. Fantastic stretching, but I heard they were redoing some of his effects. Also, the music, action, and quick cuts of the clip almost make the movie look like it is going to be an over the top McG-like (guy who did Charlie's Angels) telling of the material...God I can't stand McG.

Beer Baron: Incredibles ruled, and keeping with your train of thought, if anyone wants to see a good version of The Punisher, watch Man on Fire

[nicolas]

....and speaking of bad Comic adaptations. "Constantine"....(Hellblazer). WTF is Keanu Reeves playing a blond Irish Badass (in the comic). First of he can't act, second he's got black hair in the movie (they could've at least dyed it), and third hello "Irish", ....did I mention he can't act?!

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

NIC

[bat]

Obviously none of you that are complaining about this have seen the Roger Corman version of the Fantastic Four, which must have been done when Marvel was just about broke and really needed money.

[MuffinMan]

OMG!
when will this end!?

[Black Jesus]

Black Jesus: Mainly I think the complaints are that Ben Grimm/The Thing just looks too fake, like a guy in a big orange prosthetic and that Dr. Doom is too much of a straight translation and looks kinda ridiculous in full metal armor. Plus a lot of the effects look dated, like Mr. Fantastic stretching, but I heard they were redoing some of his effects. Also, the music, action, and quick cuts of the clip almost make the movie look like it is going to be an over the top McG-like (guy who did Charlie's Angels) telling of the material...God I can't stand McG.

yeah, i agree with you about McG... total hack. i dunno... it just seems really early to be bashing the movie based an a crappy clip from mtv. remember when the first images of x-men appeared? everybody sort of had the same reaction, and that film turned out fine.

i just don't think what i've seen so far, visually anyway, looks bad. now, i can totally understand people's concerns about the characters themselves, or the script, acting, ect. but visually i just don't see the problem. and i wouldn't worry about the editing in that. it's not even a trailer, it's just early footage slapped together.

as for the thing... i can see what you mean, but there are really only two ways to do it. a man in a suit, or full cg, and neither one of them is going to look entirely realistic.

[Beer Baron]

Obviously none of you that are complaining about this have seen the Roger Corman version of the Fantastic Four, which must have been done when Marvel was just about broke and really needed money.

http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/f41.jpg

This movie is almost as good as the 'Captain America' movie which had The Red Skull as an Italian dictator. It was so bad it rocked!

[Upstart]

Hah, I used to love that Cap. America movie when I was younger, didn't really have any other comic movies to compare it to, I'd probably still enjoy it if I watched it today for old times sake.

I still think FF4 has a shot, the passed few times I have seen that footage I guess I am getting a little used to it. I don't mind changing origins or looks at all really, I'm not too much of a purist, I just like to see the character well realized and human despite their abilities--I think that is why Spider-Man, Superman, and X-Men worked.

The whole Dr. Doom angle is what is kinda getting me. Granted, he is a cornerstone villian for Marvel, but how far you can push a costume on screen has to be considered--look at the Green Goblin. I mean Magneto had his helmet and cape, but he didn't wear it much and his costume wasn't over the top. But, it is still early and I think I started the thread out of a gut reaction instead of giving the movie more of a chance. Ah well, it will probably make its 100 million regardless.

[Lauren Short]

spiderman was a good comic-screenplay ....but this...this just looks terrible


i mean i don't like the fantastic four as it is, but man, this just looks like the hulk/daredevil/punisher rolled into one big giant cheeseball!


o well, at least another batman is coming out soon, i really look forward to that

[NoUseFrAName]

The new Punisher made some small changes and stuff, but it was still pretty sweet visually. Story-wise it wasn't really weak either. I mean, no weaker than any other good revenge flick. The fight with the Russian was just gorgeous.

Daredevil...eh, some gaping plot holes, and Ben Afflek....but other than that, it was enjoyable....it had all the eccentricities of a comicbook and all with a slick enjoyable style to it.

Hulk...it definitely wasn't for everyone....but I loved it. My first impression was mixed...but having watched it again, I think it was definitely a quality film.

Spidey 1&2...exactly what the comic should be translated to the big screen....with the exception maybe of the retarded Goblin costume design.

X-Men and X2....first one...so-so...2nd one....holy crap this is freakin' incredible.

Elektra....cool trailers....first 15 minutes is crap....true test will be when I see the whole thing.

Fantastic Four....that footage looked pretty sweet to me. Not sure if Jessica Alba would even be in my top 100 choices for Sue....but I'll reserve judgement.

-Rob

[bat]

http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/f41.jpg

This movie is almost as good as the 'Captain America' movie which had The Red Skull as an Italian dictator. It was so bad it rocked!



When you see that picture of those people you know that the guy who played the Thing is the only one who can still walk around in public without being harassed and ridiculed. That guy is the braniac of the group. The other three must have owed Corman money and were pressed into the roles. Under duress, by the looks of it. Maybe the person playing the Thing just didn't owe as much. Everything with that movie is so disjointed and awkward, it is hard to tell just what is going on at any point.

[Crithon]

I agree with Beer Baron, if you to see a good FF movie, see The Incredibles. After I saw the film, I felt they should just stop production of FF and study how the Incredibles works. It definatly redefined a comic book movie.

Personally, the trailer is just too short to even tell anything about it, but for what it's worth it's too loud and noisey. I would have been sold if just one of frames of trailer showed a classic Jack Kirby pose.

[Beer Baron]

The thing about Roger Corman's version is that is was never going to be released. I got this quote from Chud.com's message boards and it explains the movie's sordid history:

"The producer who had the F4 rights needed to have a movie in active production by 1994 or they'd revert back to Marvel. He wanted to get a big studio interested, but it was progressing slowly. So they hired Corman to make a fast and cheap Fantastic Four movie to fulfill their contractual obligation.

"It was made under very strange circumstances, with a purpose not to make a picture to be released but rather to fulfill the option that would expire if the picture had not been made"

Roger Corman's exact words.

The movie cost less than $1 million, and was shot and edited in a matter of weeks.

I heard this story quite a few times from a bunch of different places so it sounds like it could be true. It‘s still no excuse for the mess that it turned out to be. (I'm always waiting for Uwe Bowl and Paul Anderson to use this argument to defend their craptacular films; Resident Evil, House of the Dead, Aliens vs. Predator)
>:{

And a side note about The Incredibles, I read an article a while back stating that after the producers of F4 saw Incredibles, they decided to go back and amp up the Mr. Fantastic effects since they were not on par with Mrs. Incredible’s performance.

"With principal photography on the "Fantastic Four" film about to wrap, Cinescape now reports that the entire third act of the film has undergone extensive changes as a result of Pixar's CGI family film "The Incredibles". Seems after seeing the stretching effects of Elastigirl, the final battle sequence of FF needed to be beefed up, especially the similarly stretchable Mister Fantastic (Ioan Gruffudd).

20th Century Fox apparently stepped up to the plate and coughed up more dough, anywhere up to an alleged $20 million in fact so Mister Fantastic could have more screen time to stretch across and some of the other characters may get some more action as well. On top of this, the third act has had to undergo a major rewrite. Writers and producers have been working overtime all through November and December as they thought about ways to better build up the film's final battles and the resolution. This has lead to almost daily script changes in order to distance the FF ending from that of "The Incredibles".

http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2004/12/fantastic_four_gets_script_changes_and_upgrades_it s_visual_effects.html

That, along with The Thing’s appearance, does not fill me with a lot of hope for this movie.

[SJ Bennighof]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3

[Icelandic Norm]

Regardless of the special effects, I hope the story will be a good one.

I think the basis for any movie to be good the story must work well. I am guardedly optimistic about this movie.