IceMoons sketchbook -|- new TD sketch

[ArtbyWard]

HI BETTER STUFF BELOW! :android:

I'm learning hard to be a concept artist please help me during my journey!

first one is a study of a guy drawn by Rafael:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/rafael.jpg
mecha in the city:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/robw1.jpg


girl (ref):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/girl.jpg

That's it for now! im learning hard :perv:

[ArtbyWard]

New ones!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/brushp.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/manmchne.jpg

[Jokisalo]

Looking good pal just keep drawing drawing and drawing :)
Post more please.

[van]

Not too shabby! :) How about picking up some anatomy studies. You have a pretty good grasp already but I think it would serve you well to beef up your knowledge a bit. :teeth:

[ArtbyWard]

Jokisalo: thx for your reply

Van: thx, Yea here's some more anatomy studies, more in the making

Anatomy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/anatm1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/leoVinci.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/anatm3.jpg


A glass with some stuff behind it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/glass.jpg


A war robot, redesigned to ease peoples life on the ice (? ya I know :^^;: )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/helpmech.jpg

Next time I'll try a digi painting. Keep replys coming plz! :^^:

[van]

All right! There we go. Keep those anatomy studies going and keep drawing from life. Anatomy gives you the knowledge, but drawing from life teaches you how to apply that knowledge. :)

[ArtbyWard]

Van: thx, yeah think the anatomy studies help me alot!

The real thing before scanning looked much better :\

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/samuraisannin.jpg

Don't be shy, leave a crit!

[corky13]

*WeirdotronTakesOptikalScan*
"Hey you are using Dr. Gjörgi Fehers and Andreas Szunyoghys "Anatomie for Artists" dont you ? Me too :D. Nice studies but keep studiing !"

*WeirdotronShrinkSmallerAndSmallerUntilYouCantSeeI tAnymore*

[ArtbyWard]

Corky yea I also use that book! Well that and another one. It's pretty good but sometimes the details kill me so then I use my other book.

[Jokisalo]

oh this last pic, i love it!
good looking new stuff, you are getting better /m\

[Ryu]

Nice last pic, shows improvement...
Concerning anatomy, you doing good to study it, but it seems that you are beginning in drawing , so let me give you a tip:
I first wanted to learn anatomy, thinking i'll can concept art later on ,
BUT i should have first learn to construct anything from box sphere and cylinder (means, lot of ref drawing), then, shapes, and then anatomy on top of this !!
Remember and observe that the shape of an arm is really only slightly off the cylinder. Doing too much anatomy lead to deformation !!

That only to help you train yourself the best as you can !

bye

[ArtbyWard]

thx Jokisalo & Ryu voor the tips

Damn i did'nt post much anymore here because my scanner broke :( . I hope I have a new one soon coz I have allot of sketches I can't show now.

Here are some life drawings I did:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/lifedr-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/lifedr-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/lifedr-3.jpg

[ArtbyWard]

-edit: srry my comp is being silly

[Mr.Blonde]

very nice studies. I really like This Page (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/anatm3.jpg). very nice anatomy study, life drawings are solid too. keep it up!

[leonard_davi]

Wow amazing studies !.. i really like of your anatomy concepts and davinci style rules...the samurais were made without reference ?.... hugs..

[ArtbyWard]

Mr.Blonde - thanks!
Leonard_davi - thanks, yea I used a ref for the samurai.

I might as well post this here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/baikenintrnt.jpg

Here is a quick concept for my TD with gringoloco:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/TDconcept1.jpg

[GriNGo]

great man! good job... i'll be waiting for ya! 8) and your studies... work on your pencil lines... try to give them a more consistent stroke... and start working the shades at the last! (after tha main lines have been drawn).. it will be easier and less confusing.

later man,
GRiNGoLoCO

[evidence]

hey man good work here. im seeing some posts about where you should be with your life drawing and concept art.
a lot of poeple on this thread dont understand the connection between life drawing/figure anatomy and concept art. if you cant draw what is in front of your eyes, then how can you expect to draw it from memory/imagination?
i would say keep doing these anatomy studies out of the books and from life because when you do enough of these they inform the drawings you do from your imagination.

my book (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43720)

[darkchild]

Hey... You've got quite a collection going on. Great stuff. My favorite is the samurais. Very well done. The samurai girl is awesome. But you do have to tighten up some of your pencils on the sketches. The life drawings are great. Keep it up. I'll be checking back. Later

[Quinster]

I like the pictures where you seem to copy it from real photographs. Good work! Keep it up! Some of the faces may need some work though, like the one on your avatar.

[ArtbyWard]

Gringoloco - thx man. Yea I need to do more studies I know :)
evidence - Nice words thanks.
darkchild - I'm glad that you like 'em, thx
Quinster - Copying from photo's tend to get boring, but I do need to study faces more I agree, Im stil suffering from my anime period :P .

Here's some new stuff
Random crap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/randomdoodle.jpg

And something I wil work out in 3d:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/mayahoofd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/mayalichaam.jpg

Next time more from life, and (hopefully) more studies

[ArtbyWard]

Phew not much time today, so I just drew meh shoe :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/shoe1.jpg

It was actually pretty fun. Maybe I'll do a more detailed one later on.

[ArtbyWard]

I've just finished my piece for the TD with GringoLoco

conceptsketch:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/anubiswarriordoodle.jpg

"color" :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/anubiswarrior2.jpg


The thread is located here, please cast your vote!

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46426

[ArtbyWard]

Here are some girls:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/nekkidgirls4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/nekkidgirls2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/nekkidgirl3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/nekkidgirl1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/meandmech.jpg

Hope you like em

[dashi]

cool mech designs
and i dig those life drawings from june 7th although the hands looks sloppy
overall cool shit!

[darkchild]

Yeah!!! Nekkid girls rule!! Great work on the 3rd pic. But on the last girl, the arm is too short. In that position the shoulder would come up considerably higher. Considering the hand was placed closed to the body and not towards the knee. Great mecha!!

[adiere]

I like your work here, you put lot of expresion in your characters.

[endercoskun]

hey, real nice stuff. the referenced pics look great! one advice, when you do a drawing using a ref, just after u finish it, put aside both your drawing and the ref pic and try to draw the same thing from memo. it will help improve ur visual library, i find it a lot help myself;)

keep up the great work:yayca:

[ArtbyWard]

Dashi: thx, and indeed hands are on my to do list I suck at them
darkchild&adiere: thx guys I really apreciate your comments
e n d e r: Great Idea! i'm gonna do that.

Messing around with painter: (fanart for grandia... if you can call it that :P )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/grandiagirl.jpg

Here is my sketch for my demon princess for the TD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/demonprincesssketch.jpg

[darkchild]

hey, great perspective on the fan art. But I'm really intrigued by the demon princess. Any chance of doing that up in color?

[Magic Man]

My advice for a learning concept artist, is to first divide the discipline into multiple areas: props/vehichles, locations/environment/architecture and characters/creatures.

Each is a wildly different field which takes vast studies.

If you start off trying to concept everything at once, you will never improve your learning curve since your mind will be everywhere and nowhere, pick an area to first work on, then delve into its complexitiies until you master it, then move on.

Thats my advice.

[Yodaah]

Hi Magic Man,

I agree in terms of not trying everything at once, in order of trying to concentrate on some vision, or goal and not loosing "the path". But in general I think it depends on the person. I sometimes had good results by just doodling around without concentrating on some specific design. I think it also depends on what you intend to do and the amount of time you have at your disposal. I absolutely agree to you when you work on a project connected to a deadline, because in this case you'll benefit from having some kind of plan, i.e. you first do the vehicles and then move on to the creatures etc., so you won't get lost in sketching to much around. But I think the best way to become a good concept artist (or just a good artist) is to just keep things going, means to never stop drawing in the first place, just never give up, whatever vision or design you might have in mind,just try to do it (even without a plan).

cheers!

p.s.: saw your "draconian speeder". Cool design that is.

[ArtbyWard]

Darkchild: here's the colored version. Although something bothers me about it maybe I should've used a different colorscheme. I'm also really keen on painter 6.1 watercolor right now, it seems to fit me better than the smeary bristle from 9.0 I used here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/IceMoonvsKauserAli_TD.jpg

Magic Man and Yodaaaaah:
Thx for both your advice. Lately i've been focussing on characters, but environments also start to tickle. But first I want to become better at drawing the human form.

Here's something I did for my brother:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/Georgestringwoodintrnt.jpg

[darkchild]

Wow that was quick! I like the watercolor but you're right about the scheme. I would've went with something darker in terms of color. Give this an overall "demon princess" feel to it. Background could be a fiery red with a a darker skin tone. Highlights of red would be added to the character to emphasize a more eery setting... MUHAHAHAHAHA...ahem...but I don't know what the function of this princess is so I'll leave the emotions up to you. You should give her eyes a more freaky look to them. Maybe cat slits or a different color. But an oversized pupil also looks freaky:) On another note, you got the shadows down well. The light source is clear. I really like the watch and chain. The head piece is awesome. Overall I think I'm just attracted to the design and concept of this particular character. Good work... On the sketch for your brother I love the design on the hat. Keep posting. Later!

[ArtbyWard]

Ok I really need to improve and head for the next level coz I've got the feeling i'm getting stuck in the same old thing. I'm gonna study anatomy hardcore now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/benen.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/benen2.jpg

[ArtbyWard]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/natoire.jpg

from ref

[ArtbyWard]

This is the sketch for my TD entry:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/sketchTD.jpg

And this is the final version as you can see in the finished section. Some small things changed quite a bit from the sketch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sigma_atf/IceMoonvsPrinceRurik_TD.jpg

Have a nice day

[darkchild]

Damn, that looks good. I like your choice of colors on this. The archetectural stuff in the background look totally cool. Kind of a Tenchu-like feel to it. The foreground ninja has a great expression of seriousness. The only thing that bothers me is the way the darkened figure is jumping. In a way it looks like he's sitting in midair. I know it's possible to pull your legs in after a jump but somehow to me it doesn't look right. The figure in the foreground has a great sense of movement compared to the other. Maybe I would've drawn one leg extended down a bit to give more movement to the character. But this is nitpicking on a great piece of work. Was this done in Painter? Keep up the great work, later!