Dan1989's second sketchbook>>now with paint!<< (some nudity)

[Dan1989]

Some images have been removed for bandwidth reasons. Look at the bottom of this thread for newer sketches!

Well, I haven't posted in so long that my first sketchbook was deleted, so I decided to start a new one (I couldn't post because my computer was in the shop for 2 months nearly :$ ) Anyways, here's some sketches I've done recently.
Hogarth Clothing study
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Hogarth_clothing1.txt
Animals
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/HultgrenAnimals1.txt
Loomis
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig10.txt
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig9.txt
A guy
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Male_char1.txt

[Dan1989]

Here are some creatures I drew today
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Creatures1.txt
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Creatures2.txt

[Dan1989]

crappy loomis study(right arm is WAY too short)
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig11.txt
CRAPPY lamp study
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Lampstudy.txt
Blah... I've been feeling very uninspired lately, I'll try to keep posting regularly though.

[o0Dave0o]

Hey man keep going! All you need is the dedication and you can succeed! When you're feeling uninspired just draw anything, whether it be something in your room or drawing from photo or anything. Just draw draw draw, in no time you'll be drawing like a pro, besides, the stuff I see here is already an indication you're well on your way!
Cheers,
Dave

[daspetey]

those figure drawings are fantastic! im sad that they are on lined paper!
you should pick up a proper sketchbook.
i would love to see some more stuff.
-pete

[Dan1989]

Crappy sketch of a chair
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/ChairSketch.txt
Marker sketch of drapery
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/MarkersDrapery.txt
Quick sketch of a gamecube
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/GCsketch.txt

[Dan1989]

Simplified shaded figure, referenced from loomis
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/LoomisStudies4.txt
another loomis figure (notice a recurring theme =P ?)
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig12.txt

[o0Dave0o]

Hey man those are really coming along...I just have to ask though, why on lined paper? It's not a horrible thing, but really distracts, even if they are sketches...keep it up though man! You're figures there look quite nice so keep going!
Cheers,
Dave

[IanE]

Good shading and proportions! Keep it up, man.

[Dan1989]

Sorry I haven't posted in so long! Just been in the process of moving... blah. Anyways, here are some studies of male figures (Finding male references is so hard!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Male_studies1.gif

[IanE]

Hey, Dan! Welcome back!

The first thing I noticed in this sketch is that the neck on the left figure is too long and that the right side of the rib cage seems to curve in a little to much. Not 100% on the rib cage, but it looks a little funny. The figure to the right looks excellent though.

Good job, and welcome back!

Ian

[Dan1989]

Ooh, studies :)
Hultgren animal studies(Yes, the horse and the dog on the bottom have strange proportions @_@)
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/HultgrenAnimals_2.txt
Shape study of a loomis figure (Proportions may be wrong since I paid no attention to them :D )
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/LoomisShapestudy1.txt

[Dan1989]

Here are some loomis studies, I got really pissed off while doing them because I was having trouble with the proportions... maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist :dur:
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig13.txt
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig14.txt
And here is a WIP digital painting I'm doing in painter 8 (I'm using acrylics, and credit for the reference photo goes to ceiliog from wetcanvas.com)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/forestpainting_1.gif

[Dan1989]

Weird eggs... done in painter, credit to Crias from wetcanvas.com for reference
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/eggs.gif
Lop-sided couch :dur:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/couch.gif
Foreshortening :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/LoomisStudies_5.gif

[hurricane]

looking good !

keep on working on your skills man !


draw draw draw ! :)


cheers !

[Dan1989]

Loomis figure, surprisingly not-crappy XD
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig15.txt

[hurricane]

head + neck seems odd, to pushed down (imo)

looks good though !

cheers !

[Dan1989]

Thanks for the suggestion, I might just go back and see if I can fix that :wink: Here is a loomis figure I did today
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig16.txt

[-sideshowbob-]

looks good so far :D

there are some easy tips on how to learn or how to understand foreshortening.. before u will be able to draw a foreshortened body.. u need some training.. i did that 2.. with drawing cubes * in my first 3 month of "drawing start " i only drew cubes.. because i had to understand this :D its good training*.. in our couch.. u have foreshortening too.. in ur chair too.. in evryline u draw.. there is foreshortening ... train ur eye to reveal the foreshortened truth :D

in my sketchbook is a Tutorial link .. ask me if u cant find it ;)

u can also pm or request help in my sketchbook :)


keep up ya stuff :D

:blahblah: >:D :blahblah:
*if u need other help or tips n stuff.ss just ask*

[Dan1989]

sideshowbob: Thanks for the advice! I will definitely take that into consideration.

I think what has been missing in my art as of late is spontaneity, so I decided to do some gestures of my arms and hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/HandGestures1.gif

[Dan1989]

I need to draw more! Here are some crappy sheets of studies
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/HandGestures2.txt
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/LoomisStudies_6.txt
Feel free to comment on anything that looks wrong :D

[Dan1989]

Ignore the pastel disaster...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies_1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handstudies3.gif

[Ink_Monkey]

Those hands look really good man and hands aren't easy to draw there fun once you get them though cuz they can really portray allot. I'm glad the lined paper is gone to your drawings deserve a nice white surface. Keep it up. I'll be back.

[Dan1989]

Thanks for the comment ;)
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Hands4.txt
As always, critiques/suggestions are welcome.

[Dan1989]

loomis quicky
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig17.txt
I'm obsessed with hands now :dur:
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/Hands5.txt

[Dan1989]

Bought a bunch of new pencils, thought I'd try them out.
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/handandfoot.txt
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/loomis_fig18.txt

[Dan1989]

Loomis figures
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dan1989/LoomisStudies_7.txt

[Dan1989]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis_fig19.gif

[Dan1989]

Snakes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/snakeandmoth.gif
Deer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Deer1.gif
Rabbits
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Rabbitsandhare.gif

[cburt]

oh wow, i really like your animal studies a lot. they have all the gesture they need but they're all very brief, seems like you've done quite a bit of study of them..i also like your arms and hands, at the wrist connection, you're getting that point perfectly. cool stuff
-cburt

[Dan1989]

Frogs! I can't get enough of frogs XD (Sorry, I had to split it into two images because photobucket resized it :( )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Frogs1_1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/frogs1_2.gif

[IanE]

Hi, Dan!

Been a while since my last visit!

Really good figures, man! Keep working on those, you've chosen some really great poses to learn from. Anatomy and life drawing will take you a long way!

You seem to dabble in painting! The forest piece looks great. Can't wait to see the next update on it!

And as for your animals, they look just as real as ever!

Good work, Dan!

[Dan1989]

Thanks Ian. I forgot about the forest painting, I might work on it some more. For now here are some more pen gestures of hands!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Hands7.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Hands6.gif

[Dan1989]

crustaceans :S
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Crustaceans1.gif

[floydshayvious]

Hey Dan! Just dropped by to return the browse. AWESOME stuff man... I've really gotta get cracking on my Loomis studies too... just do... beh.. X_X

What books are you refferencing from, If I may ask...(?)

KEEP IT UP! :3

[Dan1989]

floydshayvious: Hey man thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. What books do I reference from? Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis, The Art of Animal Drawing by Ken Hultgren, Drawing Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery by Burne Hogarth... I could sit here all day naming books :dur:

It seems like I'm running out of poses for hands!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Hands8.gif
Loomis Stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/LoomisStudies_8.gif

[floydshayvious]

I love your Loomis studies man.. O_o

I'll need to start cranking some out...

Prop's!

[cburt]

nice studies...if you run out of poses for your hand studies, do em in the mirror. keep it up
-cburt

[Dan1989]

Surreal cat things and a baby dragon... done without reference, crappy but it's something...I really wish I could draw better from imagination =/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/SurrealCats.gif

[-sideshowbob-]

w00w <3

i really love ur hand studies man O_o
nice dynamic :^^:

looks like improvement /m\



keep it up :D now go draw ! :^^:

[Dan1989]

I would have post stuff up the last few days but I have been sick and felt like crap... stuff from today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands9.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/20.gif

[Dan1989]

Blah... cats... nothing impressive...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Cats.gif

[-j-]

Man, there's some sweet shit happenin' here. You seem to use your drawing time very wisely. Hopefully I can pick up on some of that. Keep it up, you're going places.

[Dan1989]

-j-:Thanks, I appreciate your comment. I haven't seen you around these forums before, go start a sketchbook :dur:

I will consistently produce...crap! No matter what! Sorry, I have to laugh at myself sometimes...here is the crap I speak of
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Crap.gif

[Dan1989]

I think my biggest prob is finding good reference and having privacy to draw... oh well, I guess I have to do the best I can with what I have.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/stuff.gif

[Shylone_Breath]

oh man you re study kick ass!!!
:|how lond do you draw? :nohope:..
you're good !:) keep it up.

[Odds]

Awesome figure, hand, and gun studies! Those seem to be paying off for ya. ;)
Keep it up and start tryin' to do some finished work (doesn't have to be completely finished, but start doing exercises with composition). Keep it up.

[Dan1989]

Shylone_Breath:Thanks. Sometimes I wish I felt that good myself about my drawing skills!
Odds:Yeah, maybe I should do a finished piece, I haven't done one in ages, thanks for the suggestion.

Anyways, here is a boring foreshortening study from the loomis book, some of them are from life though. It's crappy looking but I guess the fact that I'm learning is what"s important.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Foreshortening.gif

[Dan1989]

Loomis foreshortening and planes study
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/LoomisStudies_9.gif

[Shylone_Breath]

hey good stuff in this update !:)

[Abra]

Hola, You've improved greatly sence the start of this thread. Nice to see that u got a proper sketchbook =P. Love the studies! keep it up!

-Abra

[Dan1989]

Shylone_Breath: Thanks for the comment, as always.
Icey:Yeah, the girl is a study from the loomis book so, yeah :dur: And to answer your question I'm 15, I'll be 16 in a month.
Abra:I appreciate the comment, thanks.

Here are some cruddy figure studies from photos and some hands, I was a little nervous drawing naked people in my living room, so they are kinda rushed, I guess.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Figures1.gif

[Dan1989]

Loomis drawings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/LoomisStudies_10.gif
Warm-up gestural junk
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/gestures2.gif

[Dan1989]

Loomis stuff accompanied by some gesture drawings ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies_3.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies_2.gif

[Alexandertheduk]

Hey Dan,
Thanks alot good sir for your kind words but I think rembrant-esque is stretch although I luv ya for even saying it. I think it's more like chicken stratch-esque to be honest.
Also I looked over your work and really enjoyed a number of drawings you had posted especially the cat with the stretched out neck. I look forward to seeing your progress I'll keep posting and I hope you do as well.
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[IanE]

Dan!

It takes a whole lot of dedication to draw that many hands... really awesome study there!

Thought your crabs were adorable!

Liked the figure drawings, still some anatomy and proportion issues there, but the last few figures looked very very good!

Kepe it up, man!

Ian

[Imageproof]

Wow!!! What an improvement, what a development!!- Your work is totally inspiring!! Don't ever stop getting better!! :)

[Hanuka]

you're improving so freaking fast, it's a shame when i look at my sketchbook. insane :) keep on working with loomis, your figure and hand studies are classy :)

you got scorpion-skills going! /m\

[johnny3]

Very nice drawings. I especially like your nature studies. Keep up the good work.

[Dan1989]

Wow, that's alot of replies! Seriously, I wouldn't be able to keep it up without motivation :wink: So thanks to everyone and I will try to look at all of your sketchbooks to return the favor.

Here is more loomis stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/LoomisStudies_11.gif

[Icey]

the last one has no neck... and the head is too small... :)
the gestures next to it are much much better - you shoulddo more of those!

[TASart]

very nice studies, bottom right gesture on the last piece is great...

[Dan1989]

Icey:Yeah, I have a bad problem of making necks disappear... I'll try to keep that in mind next time I draw a figure.
TASart:Thanks, I'll have to check out your sketchbook one day when I have time.

I really wish I had more time to draw... life is too hectic sometimes. Here are some loomis studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/LoomisStudies_12.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands10.gif
completely weird and random attempt at a concept
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Ratandsnail.gif

[Dan1989]

Sorry I haven't posted in so long... long story, but my computer wasn't working for a few days.Here are some drawings:

drapery gestures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/drapery1.gif
loomis study, I'm not very satisfied with it because it looks very stiff and mechanical
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_1.gif

[Dan1989]

Just some gestures of loomis figs and some from life, nothing special but i guess it's better than nothing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/gestures1_1.gif

[MisterJC]

those studies are great.

hmmm.. for your little concept thingamabob. i thought it would be funny if the rabbit said "woa! slow down!"

anyways. keep on truckin.

[Dan1989]

MisterJC:Thanks. Yeah, the rabbit really should watch out for the dangerous speeds that snail can attain :^^:
Here is a weird monster and a loomis figure, the monster was just a quick sketch thingy. I'm pretty satisfied with the way the loomis figure came out, too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisandmonster.gif

[Dan1989]

Here are some sketches of weird stuff I did today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/stuff1.gif

[jacobsteel]

Yes, very nice studies indeed. And a very classic look too. Good hands. Please keep posting. :)

[Dan1989]

Jacobsteel: thanks for stopping by :confident

I'm pretty happy with the way these came out, I started them as gestures and developed them from there. I think I should work on that method more often.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_2.gif

[Dan1989]

Monsters :P The one on the left is ispired by a shark from the undersea creature ref thread, the other I kind of thought of when I looked at a picture of a geisha girl. (The spots on the head are not eyes.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/monsters.gif

[IanE]

Howdy there, Dan!

The figures and hands are looking better and better! Your hard work is really showings, so don't stop and keep drawing!

I've noticed most of your figures are standing, have you drawn or plan to draw any seated or other positioned figures, or are you just kinda going along with a Loomis book?

Looking forward to some more updates!

Ian

[Dan1989]

The one on top is a value shape study I did according to a book I have, the bottoms are from the loomis book.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_3.gif

[maxetormer]

Theres no doubt you are doing
huge improvment very fast,
Im likeing the last updates, your are
getting rid of your stiffness with no problems
(that is something im working on he he)
good studies, ill be around!! :D

[Dan1989]

Sorry for being lazy! I've been sick the past few days... felt like absolute crap... I'll be drawing regularly again from now on =p

Here are some hand gestures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_1.gif

As an interesting bonus since I haven't posted in a while, I thought I would post some CRAPPY drawings I did about two years ago. I found these when I had to install my old hard drive. I guess it's always funny to see how you've progressed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/crap1.gif
I can only cringe when I look at these
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/crap4.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/crap3.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/crap2.gif
and finally, the cream of the crap
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/crap5.gif

I hope those didn't blind anyone @_@

[MisterJC]

ahhh my GOD!! get out of my head.... :frustrated:
I know the feeling as well =T

are those hand gestures from life? they looking nice.

[Dan1989]

Bah, I felt like everything I drew today sucked... but I guess you have to show your failures as well as successes... otherwise you won't improve :\
crappy loomis figure... I feel up to completely redoing this one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/crappy_loomis.gif

[-j-]

excellent! one of my favorite things to see in sketchbooks is progress, and you've got it aplenty! keep it up! i used an exclamation point after every sentence! omg!

[Dan1989]

Just a monster I came up with, don't ask me what it's supposed to be :dead:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/monster2.gif

[leslief]

Hi Dan,
This is my first time looking at you sketchbook. I have to say that I'm really impressed with the progress you have made on your figures from the start of the thread to the last post. You seem to have improved your sense or proportion a lot. Also, you have a good eye for catching the important details that give the pose life, which is something I continually struggle with. Also, your hands are really inspiring. I am going to have to start doing a lot more hand studies like these.

Keep it up!

Leslie

[Dan1989]

leslief: Thank you for the kind words, I will keep checking you sketchbook :teeth:

Loomis fig, I just had to re-do it, I wasn't satisfied with the previous version :P
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_2.gif
More hand gestures, I am pretty happy with these
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_2.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_3.gif

[Wes Mordine]

This week is Critique Week... and then you post.

How can you post when there's nothing to critizise on the whole sketchbook? You shouldn't have posted, so I would not have to give you many words of great admiration about your skill (which is amazing, and even more so in a 16 year old)!

You shouldn't have posted! The moderators will be pissed off! :nohope:

WAY TO GO!!! :hatsoff:

[leslief]

Dan,
The redone study of the woman turn out much better than the first try. You are able to capture the movement of the figure, even the twisting torso, well!
I wanted to suggest some things you could try and do to further your drawings as a whole, not so much in regards to anatomy, etc. You seem to tend to outline the whole figure (a trap I commonly fall into). This tends to flatten the image to the page, fighing the good work you have done to portray the volume of the forms. You might want to consider being more careful with this outside contour, letting it open up and breathe in some place, making it harder in other places(flexing muscles, weight bearing points). This Raphael drawing (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/mentler/raphael030605.jpg) illustrates what I am talking about.

Keep up the good work!

[Dan1989]

Wes Mordine: Thanks alot for the comments! Crit week? It doesn't say anything about posting, just says we should write longer crits more often this week :dur:

Leslief: Thank you for pointing that out! I really need to work on my line weight. that suggestion is really helpful.

Here are some hands and a loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_4.gif

[Dan1989]

Argh... *kicks self for not posting in so long* I should have done more drawings over spring break, but I'm lazy and have had alot of things going on /end of making excuses. Here are some hands and some studies of a male figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_4.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/MaleFigstudies1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_5.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_6.gif

[Bennett]

Dude, you are progressing soooo much and nailing the Loomis style/Technique... And I love the old shitty dwg posting "cream of the crap" lol...

[rWDrk]

This really looks good. keep it up.
Like your hand drawings

[jar]

Very impressive!

Makes me want to dust off the old loomis book myself.

[Dan1989]

Thank you all for the comments, here are some more hands, I feel like I'm getting into the swing of drawing again :tihi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_82.gif

[Dan1989]

Meh, here is my first attempt at painting traditionally, it is done in coffee :tihi: (Yes, coffee! You get pretty desperate when you have exspensive brushes laying around and no paint!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Coffeepaint1.gif
and a rather boring hand

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_9.gif

[Dan.v.D.]

nice studies dude. keep it up!

[Dan1989]

More hands :yayca:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_10.gif
Calligraphic emphasis, exercise from a drawing book
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_11.gif

[Dan1989]

Here are some loomis head studies and hands, also a loomis fig
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisandhands1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_3.gif

[Dan1989]

Here is a painting of a flashlight, now with ACTUAL paint! Painting is harder than I thought it would be, done in gouache.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/flashlight_paint.gif
this is a hand study from an exercise in a book, diagrammatic emphasis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_12.gif

[Dan1989]

Here are some loomis head studies and some other stuff, 1 is a hand study with a structural emphasis, and 2 is just a quick gesture drawing of drapery.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_5.gif
Also came up with this and decided to color it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/dragon_gouache.gif

[AndreasM]

Hey. Nice studies. I see that you like copying Loomis. Plan to do so myself hehe. It's important tha you do not only copy, but put effort into developing your own methods, both in construction and anatomy. When you figure out your own ways, you will absorb things easier. The more you try to absorb, the more you learn.

Keep it up. Nice to see such the hard work from a boy at your age!

[Dan1989]

Loomis head studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisheads1.gif
loomis fig study
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_4.gif

[Dan1989]

Study for delineation, nothing special... basically I'm trying to see how much volume I can convey with line alone.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/delineation.gif

[Dan.v.D.]

you could convey a lot more volume and weight and stuff if you use lineweight to help you with it. look at loomis for instance and how his lines are thicker in shadow and thinner or even disappear where light is.
another option is to make the lines thicker the closer they are to the viewer or thinner ones when drawing organic things to suggest tension. there´s a lot you can do with lineweight so you better start to develop a feeling for it.
thicker lines at the bottom of your cup would help to indicate the weight of that object.

[Redleg]

Muchos respectos on the anatomy, you've been working hard. Make sure you draw from your imagination as well. Try taking some of the elements that you have been studying from animals and textures in nature and combining them with the human form instead of starting from a place where it looks like you have just copied a pokemon or cartoon. BE DARING! Fantasy and science fiction are about pushing the limits of reality into new places never before experienced by the psyche. Rather than replicating life life, grow your own robot children or tell me about your worst nightmare through your sketch book and the tallent you have.
Helpfull?

[Big-Dave]

I think I'd have to go with Dan.v.D on the volume aspect. Straight even lines don't define volume very well. Try and vary the weights a bit more. Oh, and yes, Goache is hard :P Try working with it in very thin washes over a line drawing. I know a tendancy I have is to work to thick then the picture just doesn't look right

Overall you seem to be making a big improvement though, try and keep it up :) (and dont worry about the cringe worthy old pictures, my oldies are probably worse)

[Dan1989]

Dan.v.D.:I see what you mean about the line variation, I was trying to do that but I guess I should pay more attention to that aspect instead of the value of the lines so much.Thanks, very helpful comment!

Redleg:Another helpful comment, thanks you for the suggestions, I will definitely try to apply them.

Big-Dave:Yes, I am about to paint another gouache painting, and when I was doing it I realised what you just said, gouache IS hard! I think I might try oil painting, it just seems more suited to what I want to go for.

Ok, onto the stuff. Here is a painting of a remote control done in gouache, it didn't come out at all like I hoped for, but I learned a little while doing it I guess.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/remote.gif
A very quick loomis thumbnail
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_5.gif
And another delineation practice. Sorry, I did it before reading the suggestion about the line width, so it suffers from the same problem.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/delineation2.gif

[Fellah.]

The loomis drawing is just perfect. Some very nice animalstudies 2.

[maxetormer]

Your doing freaking awesome dude,
I can sence the volumen of your studies
very well, you got a sensitivity of line that
brings to life your images, keep doing what your
doing, Its working wonders!!! :confident

[Tigermilk]

wow, very impresive!
Your Loomis studies are comin along great!
tho I think it is importent allso to studie other things, such as environment, fantsy creatures, whatever, just to open up a bit more and become a little more flexible. Hum, hope u understood my thought here.

Anyway, your progress is amazing and you'll reach high if you want to!

T

[Dan1989]

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions. I will take the advice, also, just as a reminder, DON'T BE AFRAID to leave harsh critiques, I can take it. It's also the only way I'll improve.

Here are some hand gestures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_13.gif
Loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_6.gif
Loomis head studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisheads2.gif

[charcoalArtist]

Hey, you have some really nice stuff in your sketchbook and you are really mastering those hands, keep at it, I'd like to see you develop your own method for drawing the human form from imagination, right now it seems to me that you are copying loomis' finished drawings very accurately but you should practice building your own poses, either with stick figures, boxes,cillinders, a simplified skeleton or anything else that suits you until you develop your own personal style to draw the form.

I figure you are about three months ahead of where I am (talent and practice-wise) so Keep it up or I'll catch up

[runtosaurus]

Wow man, you've got some great stuff going on here!! I love all the hands and gestures, and you seem to be especially good at drawing animals. Like redleg said, you should try to incorporate some of your stuff into your drawings from imagination, it looks like you've got a pretty good foundation to do that, especially with how well you draw animals. The only thing I don't like in here is the lined paper! ;) Keep it up, draw every day, the only excuse is if your arms are cut off or you're barfing or something. :P

[Dan1989]

I know I need to draw from imagination more... but I figure it's better to do studies and improve instead of goofing off drawing silly things, but I guess I should find the time to draw from my mind more, I will try to post some stuff from imagination tomorrow, thanks :teeth:

The usual. Loomis heads and hand gestures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_6.gif
Loomis fig (happy with the way this one came out)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_7.gif
Form study from an exercise in a book, basically the objective was to disregard the form's local tone and draw them as if they were all white.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/formstudy.gif

[Dan1989]

Here is a loomis study and some drawings from imagination, I was frustrated because I couldn't think of any good designs for the characters, but I guess I have to keep trying.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_7.gif
and more hands, bah, they're all starting to look the same! :dead:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_14.gif

[Dan1989]

Uggh... I had a boring day and didn't have much time to draw... here are some studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_8.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/handgestures1_15.gif
Don't be afraid to drop a line, I don't bite :confident

[incognito]

I have to say, good progression, but each update it's almost the same hand. Try making different sized hands. Fat hands, baby hands, female hands, beaten hand, thumbless hands, etc.

Also, maybe try moving on to different areas also, faces, legs, feet, etc.

Good progress though.

[Dan1989]

incognito: TY for the comment, the reason they are all the same hand is because it's my hand XD I know I need to move on to different areas (and subjects in general.)

Well I didn't draw as much as I should have today, but I actually had fun drawing! Something I really need to do more often. The reason is because I used refs, I'm tired of doing nothing but studies from books (it can be boring) and things from my head (which is FRUSTRATING), so here ya go. Credit to photosig.com for the refs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_9.gif
And here is a value study, it came out very messy looking, but I guess it conveys the general objective
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_10.gif

[Dan1989]

Sorry, I would have posted yesterday but photobucket was down for maintenance -_- Here is a painting of some bananas, it looks better than the painting of the remote I guess...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/bananas.gif
and some studies from ref, credit to photosig.com for the refs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1_11.gif

[dorian]

wow, dan!
on the first few posts I would have critisized a lack of contrast, but you seem to have overcome this problem. I like the animals a lot, I especially adore the dogs and deers. most of your hands are looking good, as do the gouaches.
definitely keep up the good work! :}

edit:
oh and this figure (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomisfig_2_2.gif) is awesome!
.

[Dan1989]

Major appologies for being such a slacker and not posting in so long! I got a new computer blah blah so I didn't install my scanner for a few days. Here is some stuff I did today and yesterday

Loomis figures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_1.gif
Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman1.gif
Loomis and some hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_2.bmp
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_1.gif

[Dan1989]

More Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman3.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman2.gif

[Dan1989]

I've noticed that my drawings look different on my new computer than on my old one, so please tell me if anything looks wrong/off about the contrast or sharpness.
Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman4.gif
Loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_3.gif

[Odds]

First of all, one thing I noticed is that you can draw BOOBIES very well! :D
Great job on that... You're studies are really paying off, and I think after each study you do you're lines become a little more confident. That banana speedpaint is a success, also. One thing that i think could hurt you in the long run is the lack of creative sketches. You should be doing those as well as studies so you don't end up forgetting all those great ideas that spawn in your head as you watch an episode of your favorite action show. Also, when studying from life, try to make your lines either follow the form or angle towards the direction the light is going. Keep up the dedication.

[Dan1989]

Odds:Thanks. I know about the drawing from imagination thing, I'll eventually get around to doing that before I'm sucked into a black hole :blahblah: But seriously, I really need to do it more, I haven't posted any of them lately because they suck, but I guess I need to post my bad drawings as well as the good.

Ok, I drew my butt off today >:D (Ok, not really, but it's alot for my lazy ass)
Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman5.gif
Loomis figs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_4.gif
Shaded block studies, from life
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/blocks1.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_2.gif

[Dan1989]

Did alot of studying today, here goes

these are from refs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies1.gif
various studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies2.gif
Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman6.gif
Incomplete loomis figure, will post a finished version later
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_5.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_3.gif

[Dan1989]

Progress on the loomis figure, still not done
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_6.gif
Volumetric emphasis drawing, took about 25 minutes to do
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies4.gif
studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies3.gif
What's that, drawing done without refs on the right? :x
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman7.gif
More Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman8.gif

[Dan1989]

Volume study
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/clothstudy1.gif
Finished version of loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_7.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_4.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_5.gif
Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman10.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman9.gif
stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/stuff2.gif

[Dan1989]

Loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_8.gif
bridgman figures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman11.gif
Loomis head studies, trying to memorize planes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies5.gif

[SJ Bennighof]

That latest Loomis figure is probably my favorite in the entire book, and you did a good job with it. Nice.

[Dan1989]

I figured I needed to brush up on drawing the mannikin, so here's abunch from the loomis book
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman13.gif
Loomis heads
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies2_6.gif
Bridgman figures and hands from life
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman12.gif

[Dan1989]

Loomis figs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_9.gif
lots of sketches, practing heads and spheres
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies7.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_6.gif
mannequins (I spell that differently everytimes -_-)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies8.gif

[Dan1989]

bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman14.gif
WIP still life digital painting, done in opencanvas
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Still_Life_2.gif
Head studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies9.gif

[Dan1989]

Progress on the still life, I don't really have any desire to take it further
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Still_Life_3.gif
Loomis fig
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_10.gif
Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman15.gif
hand gestures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_7.gif

[Dan1989]

ok, more bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman16.gif
WIP Loomis fig, will post finished version later
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_11.gif
hand gestures
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_8.gif

[Fellah.]

You are 16? Thats some skills you got dude!!! Very impressive. Please draw all the time and post it all the time - really enjoying this!

[Dan1989]

Fellah:Thanks you, I really appreciate it! Your sketchbook is awesome, by the way :}

ok, here is the finished loomis fig, sorry about the hand being cut off, I ran out of space to draw =/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_12.gif

[Dan1989]

Bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman17.gif
Volume study done according to a book, used a loomis figure for reference
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_14.gif
Work in progress loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_13.gif
Volume study done according to book
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_9.gif

[Dan1989]

Sorry, today wasn't a good day for me as far as art goes, I spend most of my time drawing circles and other basic drawing exercises that I needed to brush up on.
Drawings from life
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies10.gif
Volume study, used loomis fig for ref
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_15.gif

[Dan1989]

Alright, finished loomis figure
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_16.gif
studies from life
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies12.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_10.gif
Practicing drawing the mannekin, not really satisfied, but whatever
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies11.gif

[Dan1989]

Yesterday was a crappy day for me, too much homework... I didn't do anything worth a crap, but I'll pos tit anyway.

Loomis fig, it's not finished, plus it's HORRIBLE, I will probably scrap it and start again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/loomis3_17.gif
sketched from imagination, I actually like the lady with the horn hair XD
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/stuff3.gif
a few sketches from life, I need to work on basics, like sketching.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies13.gif

[Dan1989]

Ok here are some bridgman studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/Bridgman18.gif
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_11.gif
hands and a few loomis figs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_12.gif
Chair from life
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/studies14.gif
a few boring sketches and loomis mannequins
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/stuff4.gif

[JustinBeckett]

Awsome work man! so much good stuff here, keep em coming, love the studies! I need to do more studies...

[Pixeldragoon]

Keep on motivatin me pleez.

[Dan1989]

JustinBeckett: TY. I'd love to see some studies by you! You really should do some :P
PixelDragoon: No Prob. I need motivation too, so I completely understand!

Ok, sorry I didn't draw as much as a normally do today, I guess I just need breaks every now and then, gotta have fun every once in a while.

Here are some hands, I like the way they came out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/hands3_13.gif
Here are some mannequin studies done from loomis figures, working out the mannequin from underneath the figure is something I really need to work on.
Also some quick sketches of a shoe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/dan1989/stuff5.gif

[JustinBeckett]

Yeah np, probably will soon.


Just to let you know, every single link on this page is broken, says Photobucket bandwidth exceeded :P

[Dan1989]

Urgh! I had a feeling I would exceed my bandwidth -_-... does anyone have any suggestions for web hosting? I would use imageshack, but they don't allow nudity, and I'd rather not take any chances. I'll try to find a web host ASAP, any help would be REALLY appreciated.

[willpaxton]

Wow man you got some endurance and you studies are great. I wish i liked doing life drawings half as much as you :[ Keep it up!

[Dan1989]

Ok, no one in my sketchbook group posted in their books today, you guys better post some art before I kick your asses :tihi: j/k j/k of course!
I'm gonna try using imageshack from now on, I also deleted some of the older pics in my photobucket account, so if some of the images don't work on previous pages, that's why.

Alright, here are some hand studies
http://img187.echo.cx/img187/6789/hands3140ni.gif
Loomos heads
http://img187.echo.cx/img187/6558/studies155xk.gif
Some of these are from the loomis book, and the pillows are from life
http://img187.echo.cx/img187/8741/loomis3186bc.gif

[JustinBeckett]

i dig the hand studies...hmm as for hosting, i use imageshak :)

[Dan1989]

I had a long day today, so I didn't get to draw much =/ I'm also trying to teach myself how to draw holding the pencil in the correct position... so yeah.
Here is a loomis figure, it's a quickie, about 10-15 minutes. I made a promise to myself to draw everyday no matter what, so I guess it's better than nothing.
http://img160.echo.cx/img160/4454/loomis3192oq.gif

[Masayasu]

OOh, nice hands Dan. Like the figures too. I really need to work on my anatomy. Nice Stuff.

[Profil]

hey, its looking good, Im a bit tired now so I will look through your whole SB tomorrow if I get the time:)
I maybe scan some SHIT I drawed, shit but still something I guess.

[Tigermilk]

Wow, man. These last studies are incredible!
You'r really starting to get great proportions!

Exelent.

Profil :: hehe, post man, it's not shit! :)

[4rt-r41d]

<3 <3 <3 <3
these are fantastic, love the hands studies.
your studies are really good,
wanna se more :rendered:

cant really crit anything.

[Dan1989]

TY all. The comments mean alot to me, motivation is key! ;)

Ok, here is a loomis figure, I had alot of trouble with it, but I'm happier the way it turned out than the previous attempt.
http://img68.echo.cx/img68/7061/loomis3201md.gif

[Farvus]

Great studies. I think I will draw my hand tomorrow too :P. It's the middle of the night and no constructive critique can come to my head. Seems good way of to me so just keep posting new stuff.

[Dan1989]

my first real attempt at pastels, done from life. It's ok I guess.
http://img166.echo.cx/img166/5908/pastel17rq.gif
Hands
http://img166.echo.cx/img166/4743/hands3156va.gif

urgh... I've run out of paper @_@ I would draw more today, but I'll have to wait till I get some more paper.

[corky13]

than draw on cloth ;) you surely have some cloth in the near of you...or make a seld designed Henna-Tattoo ;) The lack of paper isn`t a excuse 8) ;)

Really like your Hand Studies and the loomis figures are quite nice to :)

[JustinBeckett]

The pastel study is great

[Dan1989]

Alrighty, here is a work in progress loomis figure, I think her head is too small, I will fix that.
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/5108/loomis3212rj.gif
hands, trying to experiment a bit more with them
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/9127/hands3160nf.gif
bridgman studies
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/8130/bridgman196xp.gif

[legacy]

hey man - your def. getting better. I like how your really focusing on learning your figures and such. . .

keep it up man :yayca:

[Dan1989]

Legecy:Thanks!

Here is the complete loomis figure, I didn't feel like rendering her face extensively *cough* I felt lazy *cough*
http://img227.echo.cx/img227/2571/loomis3227jw.gif
hands
http://img227.echo.cx/img227/2082/hands3175el.gif

[darkarts]

Hey Dan, thanks for stopping by my thread just now. Just checked out your sketchbook, everything looks great. You've got a good eye for shapes and, relations and form, I think. Nothing much to critique, given that. Just keep on going! :teeth:

[charcoalArtist]

Hi Dan thanks for stopping by my SB earlier, I'm on lmy lunch break and I'm just checking the links in my signature.

I can't browse sites that might contain nudity at work so I will stop by later when I'm home to check out your work and offer some comments

keep it up

[Profil]

yeap, forms and a good eye you got. You should try some charcoal, I think your studies would looke more beautiful with that, but who knows?:P
Keep going.

[Sara-San]

^^; I'm sorry that it's my first time posting!!! I'm getting sooooo behind compared to the rest of you!

I really like the hand studies, I think I'll work on that for a while (something I can do at school when I actually have time).

Ummm.. the only thing I got is to smack you upside the head for cutting off one of your pictures at a joint. I do it only because I simply run out of room, but it's very bad picture-wise to cut it off at a joint, especially at the wrists or ankles.

[Dan1989]

Darkarts:Thanks
CharcoalArtist:Thank you as well
profil:Most all of the bridgman studies are charcoal, and a few of the Loomis ones are too :dur:
Sara-san:Don't feel bad to be behind, I know what it's like! I'm sorry about cutting off the pic, I ran out of room on the paper though =/ Your webcomic is also funny too btw

Alright, I guess this guy is a warrior of some kind, I don't like the way it came out that much, didn't use ref. His anatomy is ok but I just don't like the design that much, it looks like he's wearing a skirt XD
http://img12.echo.cx/img12/7599/stuff63ms.gif
Loomis fig
http://img12.echo.cx/img12/9649/loomis3235bt.gif
hands drawn with a pen, disregard the pyramid in the corner, I was testing my pastels =P
http://img12.echo.cx/img12/7899/hands3185zd.gif

[Profil]

nice nice:)
When you do anatomy studies, try to spin them around in your mind, for example if you draw the side, the front and the back of an arm, try to do so you can spin around it in your mind, that will help with imagination stuff etc.

[darkarts]

Nice hand study - you're good with the pen. I like the loomis figure, reminds me to do one as well. :)

[charcoalArtist]

I finally had a chance to go through your SB, it took me forever, I really like what you are doing with the loomis studies and it seems like you are really mastering the hands. keep it up.

[Dan1989]

Thanks for the comments, guys! I didn't draw as much as I wanted to today... I wish I had something better to post :tihi:

Ok, these are from imagination, except the one on the left, that was done after a loomis figure.
http://img79.echo.cx/img79/752/stuff71sk.gif
hands and feet from life, chair too
http://img79.echo.cx/img79/9983/hands3198bs.gif

[Profil]

keep working and nice:)

[darkarts]

I think you're getting a good grasp on form with those last few drawings of those hand and feet. Nice work :)

[Dan1989]

As always, thanks. Ok, I had one of those days that's just "uuurgh...", that's the best way to describe it. School sucks.

I need to have a more organized value system, so I thought I'd practice using just one or two values.
http://img68.echo.cx/img68/1460/stuff88wc.gif
Also here is a study of a master drawing. It's not that great. Just a composition/direction/rhythm study.I went by an exercise outlined in a book on this one.
http://img68.echo.cx/img68/4040/stuff90ti.gif

[charcoalArtist]

Dan. good work, I like how your studies have just the right combination of angles and curves, mine seem too rounded by comparison. keep it up

[spork891]

You are progressing quite nicely. I notice a significant difference between the beginning and the end of your SB. Your progress on hands is remarkable. What did you study the most to learn them so well? I feel like I've been struggling a lot lately with everything.

-Jas

[Sara-San]

Hey, you're doing wonderfully with the hands and the feet and the composition!
Remember that females dont tend to have large ribs (chests?) so unless the woman is small (think A-B cup size) you won't likely be seeing large amounts of chest to the underside of the forearms that you do in males, especially if she's twisting.

[Dan1989]

Spork:Thanks. I know what it's like to struggle, too. As for your Q about the hands, the best way to improve draw anything is to get a firm grasp on art fundamentals like shape, gesture, pestrpective, volume, etc., you have to learn how to see correctly. I will check out your sketchbook when I get the time :wink:

Sara: Thanks, but which figure are you talking about? Sorry, I'm a dunce :nohope:


All right, I did alot today, here we go

bridgman
http://img19.echo.cx/img19/4318/bridgman203dn.gif
hands, loomis fig, and houseplant
http://img19.echo.cx/img19/1319/hands3206od.gif
animal anatomy studies
http://img19.echo.cx/img19/8838/stuff116zj.gif
another composition study, original by Renoir
http://img19.echo.cx/img19/4397/stuff109vw.gif
more hands =P
http://img19.echo.cx/img19/5364/hands3211ro.gif

[charcoalArtist]

great hands, can't find anything to critique, well done

[Dan1989]

CharcoalArtist: Don't be afraid to nitpick if you want, I'm open to all suggestions XD

hands
http://img218.echo.cx/img218/6648/hands3229sp.gif
painting I did for an illustration activity in the sketches forum, ink and gouache
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/9549/stuff126rm.gif

[darkarts]

I really like your studies - those last few hands are excellent! About the better organized value system thing - I have that problem as well. My main thing with it is that I can't associate what value a colour would be unless there is a direct shade. I found some theory against that though - Ron Lemen (Fredflickstone) has a colour theory tutorial up in the Life Drawing Section that corresponds colours to value. When I read that it seemed obvious. I dunno - if this is something you're having a problem with like me, then it might be good to check it out. Anyway, I talk too much. :bashful:

[Dan1989]

Darkarts: Dude, thank you so much for that link! I've been there before but I never read it fully, it really made my day.

loomis figure
http://img102.echo.cx/img102/5394/loomis3242xa.gif
composition thingy done from life... they goal was to have a balanced compotion of energies and masses on the page, not sure if this was a success
http://img102.echo.cx/img102/9453/stuff143en.gif
bridgman. Argh, I redid the guy on the left's left leg like three times and it's still too long.
http://img102.echo.cx/img102/7923/bridgman210ub.gif
Doodles, I actually like how the anorexic pirate girl thingy posing her hand awkwardly came out.
http://img102.echo.cx/img102/2079/stuff134kt.gif
hands and (yay) feet
http://img102.echo.cx/img102/7919/hands3235uc.gif

[darkarts]

I couldn't find that picture in my Bridgeman's Drawing from Life, granted, it's a pretty big book. The right leg is spot on with anatomy - heads compared to lenght and all. And since you didn't finish it completely... I still think it's going the right way though.

If you could tell me what page they're from, I could check if you'd like.

Edit:I backed up a bit and read you didn't want to take your still life further, though it's looking good. I'm going to say you need to do it - I'm the same way with that cow drawing, but I'm going to finish it up. It teaches some dedication, preservation - plus, the stuff learned from a finished piece is much more than that of just a sketch. So go for it man :) (I'm not trying to sound like a parent, but I suppose I am :P)

[charcoalArtist]

Dan.

I think you got your studies down, like Darkarts mentioned, it might be time to mix in rendering practice.. Let's see how realistic you can make a drawing if you spend a few hours on it.. on my list of things to do this week is a 3hr long drawing from life..

[darkarts]

Dan, I've got a question, how big do you normally draw? It seems like you draw A4, but I'm not certain. It's just something I'm wondering about in regards to my own 'work...'

[Dan1989]

Yeah I know, I do need to do more finished renderings. I will try to do more of those, but I'm still going to do alot of studies =P I'm not satisfied with them enough yet.

Darkarts: As for your question, I have no idea what A4 means (I should so know all these terms by now >_< ) But ok, like the next page I am about to post is done on 8x10 copy paper, I should probably draw bigger....

Also, sorry I couldn't post yesterday, I was gone to Houston for a baseball game... for now here are some hands ( 8 x 10 inches, just incase darkarts is wondering)
http://img230.echo.cx/img230/9340/hands3245be.gif

[darkarts]

Nah, I'm not saying you should draw bigger, I was just wondering. And A4 is a normal sheet of paper you would use to print out an essay, if you were wondering.

Can I honestly say I'm getting jaelous? I've been staring at your shading for a while now. Those hand studies are rocking, I love just how you display form in your drawings.

[warmaster]

Ill say it, Im jealous especially of the hand studies you seem to have the form down on those.

[tttia]

No doubt he is a hand study addict. Great work there. I just started using loomis' stuff and it is inspiring to see how you have progressed.

[Dan1989]

Thanks all for leaving the comments :) I will check out yall's sketchbooks when I get a chance.

All right, I took the advice about drawing longer from life and here are the results, I spent about two hours total on these two drawings. I like the drapery better than the hand. I also tried to loosely follow the technique provided by Ron Lemen's tutorials.
http://img87.echo.cx/img87/5483/studies164xs.gif
bridgman
http://img87.echo.cx/img87/4893/bridgman220ha.gif
Loomis figure, hands from life, and the rest is from imagination
http://img87.echo.cx/img87/4001/studies170ne.gif

[JustinBeckett]

DAn your a pimp! lol, your going crazy on the studies man, props to that.. :) i really wish i could go all out on studies, which i prob will soon. Are you studying with loomis?

Nice work man...

later

[darkarts]

Drapery and hand are looking good man, keep it up! :rendered:

[spork891]

I also am impressed.

Your construction lines look so effortless and clean... do you use any measuring tools? I can't for the life of me draw an even oval... I tend to try and freehand everything.

[Dan1989]

TY all. Spork:No, I don't use any measuring tools, I do my proportions by eye, and ovals are hard to draw, you just have to keep drawing them over and over.

bridgman
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/6237/bridgman232kx.gif
studies
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/4076/studies184vv.gif
hands
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/9532/hands3259ce.gif
WIP loomis figure
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/3893/loomis3250yb.gif

[darkarts]

It's good to see a beginning. At least now I know I'm going the right way when I start to shade my figure.... Now I just need to figure out how to make it that way in the end :P

Nice work as usual :)

[Profil]

looking nice:)
And I reallly like the loomis construction type of face you made a bit up there, with the hands and the reffed loomis figure, looks really good.

[Dan1989]

Here is some progress on the Loomis figure
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/3348/loomis3261au.gif
bridgman studies
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/8679/bridgman240jz.gif
quick hand gestures
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/6303/hands3269kh.gif

[Dan1989]

I don't feel like I'm challenging myself enough. I do the same things way too much. Any suggestions would be welcomed.

finished loomis figure
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/4836/loomis3271yl.gif
loomis heads
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/698/stuff157nf.gif
hands
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/9647/hands3272wy.gif
bridgman stuff
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/8804/bridgman258yb.gif

[spork891]

I'd say you're getting worn out doing what you're doing, so draw from life a bit to work the kinks out.

Where can these loomis books be found?

[adahl]

Whats this Brigdman-thing youre always do? A dude with web?

[darkarts]

Hey dan, I was thinking about some stuff, since you say you're not challenging yourself enough. These are all on my list as well:

-Do anatomy from the mind. It doesn't matter how good you are with real anatomy, if you can't do it from the mind, then you can never do all the crazy stuff the pro's dish out without checking back every minute. There's a cool thread about it in the life drawing section.

- Industrial Design. Cars, for example: don't do shading and rendering, but just do the lines. Cars have some complicated curves and spaces that will certainly be challenging. Other industrial stuff as well.

-Life drawing. Anything that will help a lot - perspective in streets, foilage, and humans around you, WITH clothes. Build up a library of every day stuff that you can use to make some mind blowing artwork.

-Self-portraits.

-Barque drawings (pretty sure I spelled that wrong)

- Colour! I haven't seen you do that yet, and I'm sure you'll pick it up easily. :)

- A different medium - there's a whole new world to explore. Inking, markers, heck, if you don't want to steer to much away from the pencil, try charcoal.

Hope that gave you some ideas. :)

[tokidokizenzen]

Dan, I think I know what you mean. I've been studying Loomis this week and I'm already starting to get restless. Just feels like I'm tracing the whole time. I think darkarts has the right ideas. I myself am going to try and do my own stuff (drawing from memory) inbetween my book studies. I'm bookmarking you're book :) I think I can learn alot from you. Keep up your studies, they're looking awesome. I especially like your life stuff.

[Dan1989]

Just want to say thank you all for the advice!

Spork: The loomis books can be found at http://www.saveloomis.org , I just downloaded Creative Illustration today and plan to print it soon, I'd recommend you start with "Fun With A Pencil" or "Figure Drawing For All It's Worth"

Adahl: Sorry, a little hard to figure out exactly what you mean, but George Bridgman was a figure artist that published alot of books in the early 20th century, if you're wondering, I recommend his books.

Darkarts: Thanks, alot of useful suggestions, I will try as many as I can. I was thinking about industrial design today, imagining my modem to be a giant building (nerdy ^_^), I've also wanted to do some SP's for awhile, I'll have to get around to doing that, I have no excuses =P

Tokidokizenzen: Thanks, yeah the loomis stuff can get boring if you do it too much, but I guess it pays off in the long run.

Allright, here are some bridgman studies
http://img263.echo.cx/img263/7474/bridgman265eh.gif
here is a drawing I did for the DSG today
http://img288.echo.cx/img288/7893/stuff167qg.gif
this is a composition study from a Toulouse-Lautrec drawing, the exercise objective was to trace the forms, invert the image, and then make any changes necessary to make the composition work in inverted form
http://img263.echo.cx/img263/6581/stuff175jk.gif

[Profil]

looking nice:)
My suggestion would be to do some anatomy "studies" from your memory.
I don´t really know if you think about what you are drawing, but that will prove it to somewhat, I mean when you draw, dont just copy it, think about what it is why it is there etc. sorry if you already do that:P

[Dan1989]

Ok. I was so lazy today. I guess I was just burned out.

I did some anatomy stuff from memory. It shows that I really should practice this more, drawing from imagination in general is probably my biggest problem.
http://img263.echo.cx/img263/872/stuff188db.gif
quick hands because I didn't feel like anything else
http://img263.echo.cx/img263/34/hands3282rv.gif

[darkarts]

Your biggest problem is still great. :rendered:

[tokidokizenzen]

That's darn good for from memory dude. You're studies are definitely paying off.

[Dan1989]

I swore I posted last night... argh here's the stuff
anatomy from ref
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/3938/stuff202iy.gif
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/4584/loomis3282gm.gif
stuff from memory
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/471/stuff191co.gif
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/2636/stuff217qo.gif

[darkarts]

Man, I wanna see more of your aliens. Oh, and your studies are real good. :bashful:

[AmadorL]

love'n the studies man ..keep up the great work

-A

[Dan1989]

Yeah I had fun drawing the alien =P I need to draw more stuff like that.
I decided to give gouache painting another go, I figure I need to start out with greyscale until I get comfortable with the medium, color always leads me to frustration >_< Also, you guys are too soft on me, give me some really hard crits, I can handle them.
All gouache except the little sketch of the speaker in the middle. The painting of the speaker has wonky construction.
http://img288.echo.cx/img288/541/stuff222ew.gif
anatomy studies from ref, must memorize!
http://img288.echo.cx/img288/7254/studies191zd.gif

[tokidokizenzen]

Yeah dude, that's what i'm talkn' bout. Creature thing is great, his anatomy works well.

[corky13]

the studies are like food for my eyes :) jummy :)

[johnfields]

Dan - great stuff , glad to see you got some un lined paper! these are very strong , are you in a art school program , what I'm seeing is the sort of work a good program would have you doing , very good Work!! :muscle:

[Dan1989]

Thanks, and no I'm not in an art school or program, I'm just really obsessive :P
Gouache painting with messed up values and loomis heads
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/8818/stuff232no.gif
anatomy studies, some from ref and some without, and studies of an apple
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/7907/stuff243uy.gif
hands and stuff
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/5025/hands3290di.gif

[darkarts]

Well,since you're climbing that staircase three steps at a time, it's hard to give you some good critique, as I can't spot anything wrong with them. Instead, you'll have to settle for my praise once again as I love your gouache studies. They show once again you've got a great understanding of form. It might have wonky construction as you put it, but to me, it looks good. :P Keep on going man! :confident

[Profil]

There ain´t much to crit really. Its look really nice with those goauche and apple studies. Hmm the pectoralis major studies should probaly be a bit bigger, I mean the pectoralis major should be a bit bigger IMO

[Dan1989]

Ty guys. I was reading up on oil painting techniques today and I decided to try to apply them to gouache.
hand, ok I guess
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/7988/studies203ra.gif
more hands, I like these better, I was trying to avoid details and just go for major forms in these, I couldn't resist trying some color, I figure I should start out with a very limited palette, the last time I painted in color my palette was unorganized and too big.
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/7467/studies215qi.gif
anatomy
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/725/loomis3296tu.gif
loomis stuff
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/8599/studies225rp.gif
crappy expirament, trying to make it as active two dimensionally as three dimensionally
http://img290.echo.cx/img290/9397/studies231wc.gif

[Dan1989]

I finally stole a mirror from another room so I could draw my hand from different angles and do SP's. The SP looks angry for some reason, I didn't intend for it to turn out that way. All of these are from life.
http://img262.echo.cx/img262/7334/studies269wl.gif
I'm officially addicted to painting now...apple in gouache
http://img262.echo.cx/img262/2667/studies271uw.gif
warm up paintings in gouache
http://img262.echo.cx/img262/4619/studies253vb.gif
more hand paintings
http://img262.echo.cx/img262/9962/studies248bk.gif

[tokidokizenzen]

Rock on Dan.

[darkarts]

Damn that's a nice apple...

Increasing exponentially as ever man! ;)

[Dan1989]

Stuff for today. I did a larger self-portrait also, but I'm saving that for the CA academy.
drawings from life
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/9462/studies296fz.gif
SP's in gouache, again, I was trying to omit details in these and just get the overall forms down
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/924/studies288ig.gif
anatomy from imagination (I'm getting the hang of this =P )
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/9632/studies300mu.gif

[Dan1989]

ok I was getting tired of my paper always warping from using thin paper... so I decided to paint on cardboard, I like how they came out, it's easier to work on a neutral color instead of the bright white.
http://img275.echo.cx/img275/9564/studies319lk.gif
anatomy studies
http://img263.echo.cx/img263/7527/studies326tc.gif
I consider this a screw up but I may as well post it
http://img281.echo.cx/img281/3499/studies330qy.gif

[maxetormer]

Man your doing all the right things and showing
a great deal of improvent on each post!
keep it UP! :D

[darkarts]

Dan, do you sleep? Seriously... Go get some. You can't spend every single night improving, you know. :dur:

About the hand - I dunno how you worked on that one, but it almost seems like you took near-black dark grey as a base colour? I don't know much about painting, but I think it would be better if you block the tones in lightly at first... i.e, the supposed blacks are just a little darker grey than the light greys, etc, instead of going full in. Again, I don't know jack about painting, but it might help a little... Otherwise refer to Ron Lemen, he knows what to do :P

Oh, and check out the life painting thread in the Life Drawing forum - the work there is enough to make you faint, but maybe there's some good advice to be found there.

Edit: Just checked back on the first page, and looked through the entire book. Astoudning improvement = inspiration. Thanks! ;)

[Spooky Tonberry]

wow, you're sketchbook is gorgeous!! youve really improved since you started. i'll definitly be checking back here(actually this has inspired me to go sketch now myself, teehee)

[blankslatejoe]

man, the hand drawings throughout your book are some of the best ive seen... you've gotten really skilled at captureing character/gesture through just those a lone. Nice improvement all around too!

[Dan1989]

Thanks all. Darkarts I will take that into consideration, thanks for the suggestions! I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going to paint more until I buy a book on painting... I don't know that much about it and I'd rather start out correctly.
practicing values, anatomy too
http://img176.echo.cx/img176/4836/stuff266vj.gif
paintings, I was having trouble with the values and contrast on these...
http://img165.echo.cx/img165/5972/stuff307we.gif

[blankslatejoe]

paint more. you'll figure it out trial by fire.... the paintings so far have a nice sense of form.

[Dan1989]

Blankslatejoe: Yeah you're probably right... I'm so wishy washy and give up on new things too easily.

I don't have much from today, I just feel like I'm trying to learn too many things at one time... I'm doing figure drawing, painting, hands, trying to learn values, trying to draw from imagination.... I think it's bogging my mind down....

hard to tell this is a towel... I think I focused on the value differences too much and paid no attention to the local tone of the object
http://img243.echo.cx/img243/5901/stuff316ce.gif
these were supposed to be tonal studies, but they cam out all grainy, I'm wondering if I should be some better paper so I will have smoother tones?
http://img243.echo.cx/img243/9135/stuff326qr.gif

[darkarts]

Man, I definitely did not intend for you to give up on painting through my comment. Get that brush and get back there! :P

I can see it's a towel, it's quite good, just not as polished as your other drawings. And your mind being boggled is good, what do you think is going to happen when you become a professional artist? In fact, I'm going to encourage you to look at different things at least once a week. For example, I did guns last week, and might do armor when I have time. Building up a library of mental reference seems just as important to me as technique.

Anyway, about the graininess: I know what you mean. I've got a very bad sketchbook that has uneven grain in it - I can't shade in it, which is why I think it really hurt me. That's one of the reasons why I turned to my A3 Sketchbook, because it had far less grain. Try it, I think you'll like it.

[tokidokizenzen]

Whoa! You have been busy. All is great, but once again I especially like your life stuff. Much improvements.

[Dan1989]

Darkarts: I haven't given up on painting, and your comment didn't have anything to do with what I said, I just meant that I'm not going to paint like crazy until I get a book or two on painting (which will be soon, hopefully). I do need to draw different subjects like you said, that suggestion is correct.
Tokidokizenzen: Thanks =P

Yesterday I was moody and tired, I guess that's why I was so grumpy. I figure and need to quit being lazy and draw more, the only way to get better is for me to draw draw draw and quit being mad.

Bridgman drawings and hands from life
http://img98.echo.cx/img98/5733/bridgman274oh.gif
Gouache, did this on a smoother paper, I like the results better.
http://img98.echo.cx/img98/7747/studies340qd.gif
Drapery from life
http://img98.echo.cx/img98/2786/studies354ay.gif
loomis heads
http://img98.echo.cx/img98/9225/studies361yy.gif
animal anatomy, mostly proportion studies
http://img98.echo.cx/img98/7379/studies373xl.gif

[Fellah.]

Allways nice to se this stuff man.
And wasnt that a little monster in the middle of it all? :wink:
Good work on all those studies.

[codakromek]

Awsome fundamentals..

.You are obviously right handed,,,I just wonder which one is more tired,,,holding up your left takes energy, too I bet.

I read you say you wanted to challenge yourself more (it was way up there in the thread)

I would reccomend (reccomend, that is) a couple of things...
You are concentrating on drawing so much from observation ( reff and life) and memory,,,,you might not of thought of other ways to refine your skills..

One thing I do to remind myself how shitty my drawings look unless I bite my tounge and concentrate like a gradeschooler,,,is draw blind observation drawings...You know, like blind contour drawings,,, no looking except to set and reset your pen tip.... I think it helps your hand-eye more than a lot of other stuff,,,,,,,The pitiful mutant people you draw that way are fun to look at too.

I say this alot, but try to pull the shadows into the outline and forms more,,,,it adds a lot of dimension when you make the reflected light more prevelent than it really is....I mean leaving light between the outline and the core shadow.

move your left hand a little to the right and you will see a whole room of perspectivally place objects and lightscapes,,,,guache is good for doing paintings of those kind of things.

The illustration activity from the sketch forum looks really neat,, If you periodically revisit more styilized and lighthearted subject matter and ways of rendering, you will see the stuff you learned in your academic attempts popping up everywhere,,,,put some time aside for color and imagination.

Hold some stuff in your hand when you are drawing it...

hope it helps some, keep on mercilessly whipping the horse, it all looks good.

Bye!

[dariocoelho]

i fell in love with your hand studies. that really helped me to concentrate on the right lines...so thank you for sharing!

and also many thanks to coda, ill remind your words next time i take a pencil.

well...nothing less to say than, keep them coming! ill focus your sketchbook in the future.

[Profil]

keep it up dude. Sorry that I haven´t replied for a while, school and other stuff have taken up most of my time.
But don´t give up, and you are improving so fast. I like the potrait from the CA academy.

[cotron]

lots of improvement just from the last few posts, and it's cool that youre tackling hands so aggressively, most people stay away from them. cool stuff, keep it up!

[Dan1989]

Thanks all. I will take all the suggestions to heart. I felt like expiramented a little today...

disasters
http://img109.echo.cx/img109/5812/stuff350et.gif
WIP loomis fig
http://img109.echo.cx/img109/5443/loomis3304nz.gif
stuff from imagintion, sorry about the buckling, did a painting on the back :(
http://img110.echo.cx/img110/1921/stuff365sh.gif
blind contour drawings, thanks to codakromec for suggesting to do this
http://img110.echo.cx/img110/6833/stuff377jd.gif
I was really getting sick of gouache today... I made some "oil paint" from vegetable oil and ground pastels, surprisingly I like the results much better than the gouache paintings, I'm so tempted to buy real oil paint now
http://img110.echo.cx/img110/3835/stuff381cp.gif
http://img110.echo.cx/img110/9895/stuff398oq.gif

[Rkhon]

Really nice studies! I especially think the hands and cloth work is your best. I envy your dedication to getting study stuff like hands done like you have...I wish I had the patience to do the same!

Like others have stated...try doing more things from your mind, and let the creativity flow! Keep up the good work.

[Spooky Tonberry]

i love your paintings, particularly the ones from the last post. and i would say YES! to oil paints. they are the hardest media ive worked in but also the most fun (but maybe thats just me getting high on the turps :bashful: ) great stuff here!!

[blankslatejoe]

hey wow.... clever idea with the pastels... those look really nice too... I'm tempted to give that a try too...

nice studies too, your hands are getting better and better too!

[Dan1989]

Thank you guys, everyone needs motivation!

hand and arm gestures, I'm trying to be looser with these and not render them at all. I need to do more gestures on a daily basis.
http://img234.echo.cx/img234/3000/studies401hw.gif
oil paintings
http://img234.echo.cx/img234/1779/studies385xi.gif
http://img234.echo.cx/img234/6266/studies393eb.gif
completely random stuff from imagination, had fun doodling these
http://img234.echo.cx/img234/3038/stuff407pn.gif
nothing special, blind contour drawings
http://img234.echo.cx/img234/4673/stuff415il.gif

[Profil]

damn dude, that oil painting is looking delicious. But how did you get it to dry that fast? and got any techniques to share?

[darkarts]

By the gods man, you are awesome at whatever you do. :tihi:

[Dan1989]

Profil: Err, it wasn't exactly dry when I scanned it, plus I didn't paint it very thickly, so it didn't smudge or anything.
Darkarts: Thanks, but I'm not perfect, I have screw ups like everyone else =P

bridgman studies, in graphite thise time, I felt like the charcoal was pushing me towards copying and not analyzing
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/8927/bridgman290wu.gif
progress on the loomis figure
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/4114/loomis3313gz.gif
oil paintings
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/5813/studies429rp.gif
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/56/studies413cy.gif
these are all mostly gestures, so fun to do! Finally putting my lazy animals to good use :wink:
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/6600/studies439vb.gif
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/5361/studies441el.gif
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/3373/studies457xm.gif
stuff from memory
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/3410/stuff429xy.gif

[Davey Jones]

-You're making me realize I should dust of my Loomis book and go a few rounds with it myself! Good work, you're definately improving and will continue to do so.

If you want a break from all that figure study, I'd suggest trying something purely for fun. I know I can get too focused on wanting to improve constantly it does me well to just draw something on a whim.

Keep it up!

[Dan1989]

Davey Jones: I know, one day I need to just be creative and forget about studying anything, I haven't done that in forever.

Pen drawing of some rocks
http://img101.echo.cx/img101/5473/studies489vf.gif
stuff
http://img27.echo.cx/img27/8665/studies466ma.gif
paintings
http://img27.echo.cx/img27/7263/studies473yi.gif
hand gestures
http://img27.echo.cx/img27/6113/hands3314qm.gif

[Sara-San]

Wow, you're doing a lot of stuff... I feel guilty now.
However, you look like you're doing the same thing with your anatomy studies. Break it up a bit, grab a book that has nudes doing natural things so that you get an idea of what happens when they get out of the tub. Not everyone looks like they're trying to contort all the muscles in their body.
However, with that crit, what you are doing looks fantastic.

[Profil]

You know that I am always watching, just haven´t had the time? to reply yet.
Looking really good man:) damn, I wanna paint too. Hmm, when you paint, are you using turp to mix out the oil, to make it thinner?

[Farvus]

I like those drapery studies. It's a good subject to draw when there is no other at the moment. Rocks are also a good idea. You inspired me to draw some too :).

[Dan1989]

Sara-san:I know what you mean, I think that's why I have trouble drawing natural posed when drawing from imagination. In the past I've looked for such books on amazon.com but not much luck, got any suggestions?
Profil:I don't have any turpentine, I've heard bad things about it's effects on health so I really have no desire to use it, plus this is homemade paint so yeah... just thinning it with more oil.
Farvus: Rocks are very challenging, I think I will draw more of them, plus, I figure it will help in drawing desert/mountain settings in art.

I didn't feel like making any long studies today, I need a break from all that. Should have drawn more regardless though.

Stuff from imagination, the alien girl didn't come out like I wanted, but I like the bug thing on the far right.
http://img109.echo.cx/img109/8999/stuff436ey.gif
just some gestures, some are hard to tell what they are, some are of my dog, one is a tree, and some are clouds, all from life.
http://img109.echo.cx/img109/5451/studies502wq.gif
http://img109.echo.cx/img109/6536/studies493bg.gif

[Profil]

cool gestures:)
I should start do some too, they are fun. And another thing I think I saw you doing. You don´t erase do you? Because mostly in your referenced drawings I see no construction lines etc. I will try to learn the same. As George Pratt said that you should do a line example from life or ref, then let it be, don´t do another one over it etc, just let it be. Because you will learn to have better lines.

[darkarts]

Nice gestures - got any tips for doing them? I can do them for hands, but for people it all goes down the drain...

Anyway, you really gave me another kick up my ass... ;) tomorrow I need to start drawing... please let it be. >:|