demon in a back alley - please help!

[Ember]

Hi, this creature is used to be a man who lost too many bets he couldn't pay and had been turned in to a beast and is now chained up in the back alley behind a ghetto establishment.

I'd like to get feedback on whether my perspective and angles are correct before I begin to add detail...and any thoughts you might have on adding more character to the beast...he will have an obvious collar and chain...I'm intending to leave him fleshy vs. hairy...anyway, thanks for you help

http://www.sonic.net/~kelyne/Ember/concept%202.JPG

[nafa]

Responding only after a cursory view. No attempt to draw the vanishing pt etc.

1. The far garbage pail appear taller than the near one.
2. The steps' (left corner) and the far doorframe's perpectives are wrong.
3. The far floorline (mid picture) are not horizontal (intentional?)
4. You probably has drawn less brick layers for the far wall than the near wall (some hidden).

Just my 2 cents. Cheers.

[ZeroX]

vanishing point could be added to make the background fall into order. i like the demon though thats the first thing that caught my eye. any plans to color the demon or the whole pic itself?
good luck.

[Ember]

Thanks Nafa - this is just the info I was looking for. I see what you're saying about the garbage can and the brick layers...thanks I'll fix that right away

On the perspective on the stairs and the far door frame...can you give me a brief explaination of the right way to go about finding the right angles?

On the vanishing pt...I'm assuming that's whatever lies behind the opening to the alley...yeah I haven't decided what to put there yet...any suggestions...i was thinking a simple street and another building accross from it?

[Ember]

Hi Zerox, would you mind going over what a vanishing point is? :bashful: And thanks for the encouragement on the demon.

I have yet to try anything in color...and I haven't tried painting on the computer...so for now he'll remain in black and white :\ But I will add shading, lighting and detail

[Darrell Bowman]

do a black and white wash drawing now.

u need values now
u got the outline.

[nafa]

Ember

Seems that you have not read up on the basics of perspective drawing. Suggest you spend some time reading up information in the following link:

http://www2.evansville.edu/studiochalkboard/draw.html

After that, you would be able to answer most if not all of your own questions. Good luck. Looking forward to your updated picture.

PS. You have done a marvelous job so far.

[Ember]

Nafa, THANK YOu! That link you gave me is fantastic. I'll post an updated sketch as soon as I'm at a good scanning point. I've since taken out the bend in th wall and am adding fire excapes instead to fill up the expanse of brick and Ive begun to add some dimension and texture. Yeah, I don't know anything about art (hence my rookie disclaimer) I don't even know what questions to ask...lol..but I really enjoy drawing and hope to learn more from kind people like you here at CA.

Thanks again

[Ember]

Ok, so I made an attempt at a vanishing point. I took out the corner in the wall and added a commercial garage door to break up the stretch of brick wall...I'm thinking of adding a fire escapes and a few more windows toward the end of the ally...I havn't added the far set of steps so the door looks like it's floating, but I will. I just want to make sure things are in line and that I'm on the right track before I continue. =) Oh and I'm going to change the creature's position...again, I haven't added andy texture, detail or lighting yet

Thanks

http://www.sonic.net/~kelyne/Ember/van%20point.jpg

[nafa]

I suggest you verify the angle of the top of the garage shutter. It seems to be too steep to me, but I could be wrong as I did not try to lcoate your vanishing point.

Compared to your original drawing, I think your latest changes have managed enlarge the "space" covered by the drawing. Nothing wrong in that but there is must less feeling of "oppression" and "confinement" which I think go well with your story.

If you have access to a scanner, this would be a good time to make a scan of your drawing. It would form a good base if you wish to modify/refine your drawing digitally in future.

Good luck.