Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

[sin]

Impressions? Am I the only one who's played this yet? Game of the Year? I loved it, what do you think?

[ArifQazi]

Great Stuff, onto MGS4!

[JoshuaTheJames]

I'm going to deticate my X-mas vacation to this game...haven't picked it up yet.


Can't wait...

-Joshua James

[benzo]

this is from the penny arcade:

If you want to know what the game is like but you don’t want to buy it, here’s what you do. Go out into your backyard and lay down in the grass for fifteen hours. Every twenty minutes have a friend come out and step on your balls. That will give you a pretty good idea of what MGS 3 is like.

[geoffd]

agree with what benzo posted.

it's a lot of hurry up and wait... . . . .

and a lot of unnecessary little details. like getting wounded, then having to clean the wound and disenfect the wound, then bandage the wound. it sounds cool but it's not

[MuffinMan]

but it gives you the idea that this kinda stuff is just a pain in the ass in "real life". really, doing tactical espionage missions will scare the shit out of you. your heart will be pounding so hard every minute, that you have no future and you will die. That is why they usually pick psychos and people who have "no fear of death" to do such things.

dude, Hideo Kojima intended the game to be realistic.
he also intended it to be as much fun as possible.
from what i've heard and read. it seems like a good game.
i wonder if they will make a port for the PC. like they did with the rest of the MGS games. i can't wait for the PC version.

[benzo]

I haven't played the game, so I really can't judge it, just thought that was pretty funny. I'm still trying to get myself to play the rest of MGS2 now that I am Raiden. I just watched a half hour long cinema for Snake Eater and it is badass.

I think I would rather just watch the cinemas and fight the bosses. All that sneaking around doesn't appeal to me anymore. I personally don't have the patience for it, and I don't like to force myself to play a game. It's just a matter of taste.

[darkcult]

I'm playing MGS3 at the moment.

It's AMAZING!!!

Best of the whole series, you have to play it to believe it.

<3

[Chris J. Anderson!]

I beat it. The game itself is great! The story, however, man, it has it's ups and downs. I won't ruin the story for anyone too much, but your hoping for snake to be a bad ass and become, "the Man". Instead, Snake, is not as hardcore as he should be at all, after you see the entire story and think back to all the things he's been through. He basically just gets beat up and follows orders, allowing himself to be scripted through the game as others have planned. He seemed to have way more emotion and toughness in the first MGS for PS1. But again, the actual game itself, is great. Some of the bosses were wimps, but even with that said, there's some really cool bosses to fight, very well done. This one boss, completely makes up for all the weak bosses earlier on. I thought I was never gonna win.

[Lauren Short]

haven't played yet, but have seen it.

chris, i'm thinking they made him more of an automaton bc this was before MGS which might mean he was more of a regular soldier in this one rather than a totally crazy-go-nuts operative

[Nero's Master]

I have yet to play this game either. I want to though. I was under the impression, however, that you're not playing as the same Solid Snake, like in all the other games, but instead his dad. Maybe that was just an early version. Care to enlighten me? :teeth:

[tinyhands]

MGS 3 is unbelievable! I beat it for the third time yesterday. The story is the best in the MGS series so far. Despite what Chris said, I think in this game the main character big.. umm.. er... Snake is trying to figure himself out as well as what it means to him to be a soilder and to be patriotic. After seeing it all come together in the end, really ties in well with the whole game. One of the best endings in a game period.

-tiny

[Chris J. Anderson!]

tinyhands - Yeah, Snake was trying to figure himself out, like you say. I guess what really gets me is that one scene, I won't ruin it, but the one where he goes through that one dramatic episode of pain. I was hoping that after that moment, he would kind of loose it a bit, like anyone would after such a loss, and make a 'grand' come back with a vengance. But thats just me, all in all, it was a good game. And there were a few holes in the story that didn't sit right with me. I think that the battles were more exciting than the first MGS on PS1, but some of the way the story that was in MGS 1 was better in a few ways, in my opinion. Overall great stuff. For all that hasn't played this yet, play that sheeeeeeiiit! Come ooon! I want to say so much about it, but I don't want to ruin it!

[RETEP]

im playing it right now, about 12 hours in. and well, its AWSOME :D . Ocelot is actually pretty cool as youngster. ive heard sooo much about the end being great, ill have to post again when i beat it to put my 2 cents in.

[darth massacre]

Funnily enough, "eating snake" is an Army Slang in Singapore for "Slacking Off" :teeth:

[RETEP]

i beat it :confident
definately one of my favorite games, along side ZOE 2 (Hideo Kojima is genius). i would give it a perfect score, except the camera pissed me off sometimes. i think it is the most well balanced of the three in terms of cutscenes and gameplay.

[tyboogie]

Im a huge MGS fan..and this one is resonating with much more than mgs2. a couple things ive found annoying. teh camera.....in certain areas..you only get the side/fixed camera angle ...when your going forward you want to see whats ahead of you..(guards). but all you get is this overhead camera angle. so you have to switch to 1st person to see whats coming up. pretty annoying.....i guess this has always been the case...but for the first time(open environments) i feel it hurts the gameplay/flow.

also..is it just me or is sneaking up and grabbing someone too hard? ive found that if you sneak up ..then run at them and grab them they dont have time to contact HQ. BUT i like the idea of being able to get right behind someone and they dont know you're there. Its like no matter how sneaky ou are..if you come within 2 ft of a guard they sense you.

it kinda sucks..i always try to do a level through stealth...but usually get caught..so i end up using brute strength. i feel like its a bit to hard to just play through with stealth. maybe its made for people who know the level layout like the back of their hand...but i dont have time learn it that well....i just want to play it once..the way the designers had intended.

anybody out there know what im talking about?

anyhoo. great game so far..Im on THE END right now....kinda exhausting...but well see. much respect to the MGS crew for keeping the series fresh and solid.

ty

[0kelvin]

"Its like no matter how sneaky ou are..if you come within 2 ft of a guard they sense you."

I had the same problem until I figured out stalking. Walk using the d-pad and you don't make any noise. I don't know why they didn't make a bigger deal about telling you about stalking in the game, it's pretty important.



0kelvin

[tyboogie]

thanks okelvin,

glad to know theres a solution to my geeky gameplay crit

heh
ty

[darth massacre]

Whooo hoooo!!!

http://www.noda-ya.com/sinseihin/4sin0908/snake.jpg

[Chris J. Anderson!]

Tyboogie - I had the same problem with the camera and the sneaking up on guards.

Okevin - I can't believe you can do that with the D-Pad. Yeah, there's a few things in this game that I wish they made a bigger deal about.

Hahaa, my ghetto solution to sneaking around well was getting good with the Tranquilizer gun and aiming for the head. Shake the supplies outta their bodies and replenish. But even with that, because of the camera, guards would still magically see me sometimes and make a big deal no matter what I did, and I found myself having to take on armies of guards before getting unseen again. Haha, funny when a guard sees something, approaches you to see what it is, your situation becomes tense, but you put a tranquilizer right between the eyes at the last second before he yells for help. Take a deep breath with your lucky shot and move on.

Tyboogie - Have fun with The End, although you probably beat him by now. I wonder what you think when you fight The Fury, Blahahahaaa!!!

Dark Massacre - If thats the toy, I'm buying it on sight.

[JoshuaTheJames]

HOLY SHIZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I must have that toy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The production version better look that good!!!!!!



I still haven't bought MGS3 :( But, one day....one day. ^_^ -soon.
Argg but, there is too much work to do!


-JtJ

[REEF]

Is this the Todd Macfarlane line? just curious

[darth massacre]

CJ, Josh, Reef- You can bet your ass its an actual toy!

Its not of the McFarlane line....McFarlane makes highly detailed miniature sculpures and not action figures. This is a 12 inch tall fully articulated and poseable action figure with accessories from Japanese Toymaker MEDICOM.

I've been collecting 12 inch GI-Joe type soldiers for over 5 years now and honestly I'd give it a miss for the price tag. The headsculpt looks good but its too...err....expensive. Its going for 17,640 Yen. That's over US$150. But if you're a hardcore fan......

I'll ask my fellow collectors for a review if you folks are really interested. Great gift to go with the game :D

[tyboogie]

chris- yea...the camera definitely makes it easy for other guards to see you that you hadnt seen. kinda frustrating...but maybe they want it to stay tense

the fury was cool...but i really loved teh sorrow...amazing...unfortunately i couldnt figure out how to beat him and had to check a strategy guide..doh!

ill be playinh through the rest this weekend

ty

[pvrhye]

This game is kicking mt ass. I guess I don't have much of a sneaky demeanor. At about the hundreth guy in a row who comes out to fight me they wear down my health. Getting good at the CQC stuff though.

[MuffinMan]

i'll get it when it comes out for PC...

[broken one]

the game is awesome in my opinion.

the games big thing is being patient, and waiting.

and with the sneaking you dont have to be that close to a guard to grab him. i think its more realistic that you cant get super close behind someone. just stalk behind him and you can get close enough.

[Interceptor]

This game is fantastic. It immerses you in the situation better than almost any other game. It takes more patience than the simple mindedness of Halo fanboys and such games would like. But this game is fantastic in every aspect. Sound is well utilized, Konami pushed the PS2 graphically to it's potential. Boss fights are epic, "The End", I would say, is my favorite boss fight of all time. The story is good, save for some shakey exposition at times. It has enough plot twists to keep it exciting, but it's not in the ranks of absurdity like Sons of Liberty.

[pvrhye]

Beat the game. It got much easier when I got the hag of it. Kinda accidently killed 500 people though.

[SirRon]

Beat the game. It got much easier when I got the hag of it. Kinda accidently killed 500 people though.

LOL accidently? Press the O too hard or too much? Headshot with the 1911 instead of the M22? Heh, I killed a lot of them too. When I found out you get more items when you hold them up I started to hold ALL of them up. After I got all the items I interrogated and then disposed the body. I ended up with 10 silencers on each weapon

Now I'm playing extreme... no alerts, no kills. Super frustrating, but hey, it's a challenge.

[bizarre]

lol i cheated. i played on Easy. breezed through it in 4 hours. i swear, in this game that combat Murphy's law of 'if the enemy is in range, so are you' does not apply. heh.

[darth massacre]

Catch all the frogs for special camoflage! :teeth:


Anyway here's another version of the toy. With Croc Camo! :D
http://noda-ya.com/sinseihin/5sin0122/snake.jpg

[pvrhye]

LOL accidently?

Yeah, well, you see. Some times I get caught and have to kill em till they stop coming. And I like to hide behind a wall and knock with the shotgun in hand.

[darth massacre]

http://home.ripway.com/2004-12/214163/Snake.jpg

I hope no one collects these toys :teeth:


They're too frikin costly!

[oracrest]

Theres one gaming franchise that manages to rule my life. No other title demands my utmost attention when it comes out more than the metal gear series. I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy with metal gear 3. Like the previous release (2, not twin snakes), I beat it in two nights, two sittings. sleep, food, and sometimes even blinking gets put on the back burner until the game is done.

Man, I couldn't be any happier with how Metal Gear 3 came out. Kojima really managed to expand the game system while still keeping it simple enough to just pick up and run with it. Hes definetly the master of capturing that feeling of "I can't believe this is really happening in a game" sort of feel. I laughed my ass off when my guy ate a bad mushroom and passed out for a few minutes, and when I got sick on the poison tree frog (ok, so I knew that it was coming, I just had to eat it and make sure).

It was great to get immersed into the expansive environments and NOT have the kind of advanced technology that you had in the previous metal gear games.
In my opinion, it captures in essense what a game should be:

keep to a small amount of gaming mechanics, but go into crazy detail within them. I would even say that metal gear seems to take something of a minimalist approach. It's not burdened by a lot of mediocre stuff. Everything about it is flawless. The story, the graphics, the sound, the controls.

And once again Kojima has managed to utilize aspects outside of the game itself. this is something that he never seems to get recognition for doing. Who else does anything like it? In Solid, you had to pick up your physical game cd case to see what the hailing frequency for meryl was from the screenshot on the back, And take out and plug your controller into port 2 to battle Psycho Mantis. With Boktai he incorporated the sun. Imagine my surprise when I turned on snake eater after having not played it for a few days, and all the food in my backpack had gone rotten! haha.

Great game, I loved. It's definetly gonna be one of my most memorable PS2 experiences. Right up there with Rez and Ico.