I like to work it work it... (UPDATED 4/25/2005!!)

[cburt]

Hey, this is just my kind of rough post of just some stuff i've been working on lately, a couple of the drawings are a little old but i've been coloring them in the past week in PS...

This is done in ballpoint pen in sketchbook, simple PS color underneath.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/cowboyclint.jpg

detail.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/cowboyclintdetail.jpg

This is a ballpoint sketchbook page i did yesterday in classs...i just thought it was prety cool, the way the figures were working together...plus you can learn something about counterculture in the 60's...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sketchbook.jpg


This is just a motorcycle type thing, all ballpoint with PS coloring behind.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/bike.jpg

heres a detail:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/bikedetail.jpg


And lastly, this is something i drew last night for my illustration class...the concept was to take one of the 7 sins or 7 virtues and apply it to one of various subjects, so mine is Diligence in Technology...I have some more work to do on the drawing itself, adding in somemore crap, and then i'm going to PS the color in.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/Dilitech.jpg

So yea, thats what i have for now, any comments and criticisms are TOTALLY appreciated.
thanks

-c.burt

[rollb82]

you have a very unique way of drawing. post more and i will tell you what i think later.

[obid619]

Hello dude. some fine stuffs you got here. I like how the ballpoint , PS combo gives your drawings a very old - like effect. some nice concepts as well, I see. What i would like to see would be some pencil pieces. oh, and San Andreas fuckin rules (trying to get 100%)

[patternagainst]

Great drawings, man. Looks like there is a bunch of improvement in those... are those old to new or what? Are you Wes' brother? Heh, your techniques seem to resemble each others.

Keep on keepin' on!

[jetpack42]

fresh stuff man! welcome to the mix! anxious about seeing some more!

[cburt]

thanks guys, the oldest ones are actually the cowboy and the motorcycle...the sketch page was done yesterday morning and i did the drawing on the bottom last night, threw that little bit of color on thismorning. i'll post some more stuff soon, once i get a few new ideas onto paper.
-cburt

[patternagainst]

Man the technique in that history notes page is sick. Got me staring.
Any comments or tutorials would be sweet. I always like seeing the way people work.

[cburt]

hey, pattern: thanks a lot for the comments, yea, i was pretty satisfied with that page, hence the posting of it...i guess the way i did those ones and the way i do most of my figures is to kind of just let the gesture lead me through...all of these pieces are done using no references so what i usually do is lay down a few compositional lines to help guide the rest of the piece. for the sketchbook ones i laid down the shoulder and elbow points first. on the motorcycle one i laid out a dome kind of shape and where the wheels would be...on the "mad scientist" one i laid down a few diagonals that you can find making the lamp, desk, floor, and top of the doorway. just simple things like that to kind of lead myself on... anyway, heres something i drew yesterday and just finished doing a basic coloring job on...this is kind of a concept for a sniper/photographer in a story that i've slowly been developing..its a 19th century style victorian sci-fi...i've got a lot of western, civil war, aristocratic european, middle eastern, samurai, and various other elements running throughout. but here it is:

this is just the ballpoint pen drawing, thrown into photoshop as a linear burn layer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/snipernocolor.jpg

Then i created just another layer behind the drawing where i do general color fields that help react with the lines on top to simulate a colored gradient. and i go back in with highlights and shadows to some areas to create just a general volume.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/snipercolored.jpg

heres a little detail:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sniperdetail.jpg

so yea, thats what i've got, let me know what you think!
thanks a lot.

-Charlie

[cotron]

Nice stuff you got in here, I like the effect you've got with the combination of the ballpoint and PS... makes it feel very textural, like a watercolor or something along those lines. I'd like to see more! What school do you goto out in KC?

[cburt]

cotron: thanks a lot, i was kinda worried posting underpaintings on this site where everyone is posting heavily painted works, so its nice to hear some good feedback. the line drawing is pretty important to me. actually i go to school in minneapolis at the Mpls College of art and design (MCAD)...but i'm from Kansas City originally.
thanks again for the comments.

-charlie

[liam.c]

toataly fukin great man lol that moterycle really cool
and the 2 loose ones above it are really realy great

[cburt]

heres a couple more things to post...
did this one a while back, but i thought it was kinda cool..its all micron pen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/bigface.jpg


and heres something i was doin a couple days ago, kind of a test with the tria inks and pencil stuff...got a little tired of it so its still unfinished.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/test.jpg

lemme know what you think.

-cburt

[cburt]

heres another few things i've been doin.
another ballpoint pen sketch:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/billythekid.jpg


heres a photoshop watercolor-style painting with micron linework laid on top. i did this for my digital illustration class

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/washy.jpg

this is somethin i did for another illustration class...i did sketches of hunters then outlined my sketches and laid in a couple colors..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/hunter.jpg

and heres a pencil drawing with ink wash that i did for illustration class. got a little carried away with the ink and it got pretty nasty. but i like it alright.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/wristfinal.jpg

lemme knwo what you guys think. thanks!

-charlie

[Keepiru]

Holy Crap Cburt, what an entrance you've made! Your stuff is off the chain, and your ballpoint and PS skillz are mad tight.
But seriously, Your illustration work is very nice, and you have a good way of manipulating large solid areas of tone alonw with your line work. Its not hyper-realistic, but It is believeable and I feel makes your stuff pretty intriguing. Very strong work, are you planning on going into illustration?
Please post more soon!

[cburt]

while i'm at it...heres another dump of illustration stuff i've done lately or in the recent past.

this is a combination of pen drawings and adobe vector work printed off onto watercolor paper and painted on. concept was "playground through the eyes of a child".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/playground.jpg

heres a lithograph i did a while back...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/kitties.jpg

and another lithograph with gouache, colored pencil and collaged gold leaf egg.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/goosegg.jpg

and heres an inkwash i did earlier this semester...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/owls.jpg

i'll be posting some more sketchbook kinda stuff as soon as the semester is over this week..bleh, i'll finally have time to do shit i really want to.

-Keepiru- thanks a lot for your comments, i was an illustration major but i just recently switched to drawing as a major...wasn't really happy with how the ill. dept. was run at my school and i kinda have some of my own concepts i want to work on instead.

anyway, like i said, i'll get more sketchbook stuff soon. till then, lemme know what you think. thanks!

-charlie

["ChEsTeR"]

I love that bloody mouse pic. Your pen skills are awsome. They make me jelous.

[Jens]

the ducks, the cats, the owls.. wonderfull!!

you got movement in your bodies, something i envy at the moment.. i'll check back soon

[Zebz]

Very cool thread! I'm glad I checked it out! I'm really enjoying those ballpoint sketches. I've always been a fan of what you can do with those bad boys. They feel more comfortable to me in my hand then even pencils at times, y'know? Very nice work. The inkwash is one of my favs tho. I wish I knew how to mess with that stuff. I'm experimenting but not really getting anywhere. lol Keep it up!

[cburt]

FINALS!!! AGH...anyway, yea, finals means some good work and some not so good work...heres something i did between 3 and 8 this morning for class today and i think it turned out pretty well...this is just about a quarter section of the full painting, but i thought it was the only part that was really worth posting for now. let me know what you think. its a watercolor/inkwash painting.
word.
my one problem is that i think i placed his head a little too far back, but we'll just say he's mid-movement for now...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/samurai.jpg

heres a torso detail:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/samuraicrop.jpg

and i like the legs the best:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/samurailegs.jpg

thank you guys for all of the feedback. Zebz, i'm totally with you on the ballpoint comfortability. i also like the fact that they don't smudge like pencil sketches will. plus, i've found that working in ballpoint for a long time REALLY helps out your pencil sketches cause of the light to dark process that you have to abide by with pen.
anyway, lemme know what you guys think! now, back to finals....ugh...

-cburt

[Ilja Murometz]

Man, your work is excellent,
;) now i understand what you ment when you posted in my DSB. :yayca:

[cburt]

hey, thanks a lot ilja, i appreciate it. i will be droppin a load of sketchbook stuff off soon once school starts this week. got some stuff to scan in, so be prepared.
-cburt

[cotron]

hey man, nice updates... i like the playground and cat drawings especially.

a crit on the samurai guy, though- it doesn't look like he's part of his environment, the white space around him makes him look out of place.

looking forward to new updates!

[cburt]

FINALLY!!! COMPUTER LABS ARE OPEN!! bout damn time, but at least CCA (my frisco host school) has a lot more scanner stations than MCAD (my mpls home school). anyway, heres a drop of some sketchbook stuff, only the yasir one is a completed drawing, and that ones only complete cause i have a version with photoshop coloring too, which i'll post once i bring my harddrive to school. anyway, enjoy, let me know what you think, C&C is most appreciated!

-cotron, i agree with you a bit about the blocking in the samurai, i think the piece works better when you see it in person though, with the full composition, that section is about a third of the full piece, but maybe it only works better cause its the best part of the piece. the rest wasnt that good heh. but, yea, i'll try to work on that a bit. thanks for your crits

heres yasir, for an illustrated portrait class last semester, the uncolored version.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/yasir.jpg

heres the regular sketch pages, in chronological order after my winter break art withdrawal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sketch1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sketch2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sketch3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sketch4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sketch5.jpg

anyway, here they are, none are totally finished, i like to jump around a lot when i draw, i get bored with things pretty easily sometimes...lemme know what you think!
thanks


-cburt

[O D T]

wow!! i cant believe you did those with ballpoint!!! theyre 5X better than my PENCILS!!!! yeesh :S

[Nike]

great sketches! I exspecially love that inkwash-piece...
post more! :D

[McLean]

This feels like a really unique thread. I think its because you're not getting TOO hung up on form, and you;re letting your design sensibilities wander (in a good way). Oh, and I can't even begin to express how much i like that image with all the cats. A lithograph? Does that mean there are multiples? And if so....how much would it take to get you to part with one? seriously.

[steak-tron]

whatup charlie!

It was good meeting you in SF, wish you had let me look at your stuff while we were there. Great drawings you've got in here man. You described it as minimal and I guess I can see why but you get some great details in the clothing and facial expressions. Very unique, and great colors too.

My fav is the one for the childrens playground, great job conceptually and I thing the simple line-work works really well. I'd encourage you to move in that direction, maybe vary up the line-weights a little. I dunno, Just an' idea.

keep em' coming dude.
-k

[knowmind]

very cool style,cburt! i really like the ball point pen with the colors,makes me want to try it!

[CITIZEN EX]

Wow,you have alot of different things going on with these,those lithos are burners! sweet.

[cburt]

thank you all for the comments i really appreciate them

ODT- thanks man, you should definitely give ballpoint a try man, its a whole different world, and it really helps pencil work.

Nike- thanks a lot, i was pretty happy with that one as well heh

McLean- haha, thanks a lot for your comments man, i really appreciate. as for the cats- yea, i've got a few extras, so what i was thinking is perhaps an artists' trade is in order? get back to me about it cause i'm totally down for that.

Steak- thanks man, at the SF thing i didnt really have much with me...i had a shistey laserprint of the school one, a few sketchbook pages and some like 32% redux's of some illustrations so it wasnt much to show. thanks about the school one, that one turned out pretty well. i was thinking about going in and doing some touchups and improvements to the linework (now including your recommendation of varying line-weights) and doing a full several foot in dimension banner print of it, make it a little more of a wall piece. thanks for your comments man, its good to hear from you!

knowmind- thanks a lot man, yea its a pretty simple technique that really preserves the drawing aspect of the character creation (if thats what you're going for)...pretty simple way to block it all in, i like it pretty well

CITIZEN EX- thanks man, the variety is due to all the different kinds of classes i've been doin lately, feelin kinda scattered right now though heh. thanks a lot!

i'll be posting more stuff as it comes, just picked up one of those sweet japanese cartridge brush pens at the japan center in SF so i'm gonna get that thing goin. thanks again for all the C&C!! keep it comin! haha

-Charlie

[cburt]

heres somethin i've been working on the past couple days off and on, back to ball point pen work for me, tried to give some hint of environment, but its obviously not totally finished and i've got some work to do to make that foreshortening really work...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/decap.jpg
anyway, let me know what you think!
-cburt

[patternagainst]

Your gestures are incredible.

[corky13]

*WeirdotronRisesFromTheSeaOfReply*

"Hello fleshy being ^^
Reylly unusual stile but thats what makes it interesting :) You must love your Ballpoint eh ? Very cool work ... keep us updated ;)

*WeirdotronSinksDown*

[Jokisalo]

very good stuff here, i really enjoy watching your stuff.
post more please!

[Siobhan]

Love your style dude. Your work looks like it has a life of it's own and I always love the real sketchy stuff. Very deep. I wanna see a lot more from you and I'm gonna keep checking your thread too!^_^ love it love it love it.-----Sio

[cburt]

hey thanks everyone, i've got another couple of drawings to scan if i can get a chance tomorow, they're lookin pretty good so far, wanna get em posted.

pattern- thanks man, i'm like obsessed with gesture

corky- thanks a lot, yea, i love ballpoint, its got a great look

sio- thanks, yea, my stuff gets all sketchy cause i usually am not sure exactly what i want going into the drawing, kinda let it sculpt itself....kinda fun cause theres no preconceived expectations to adhere to

check back soon, i've got some more to dump
thanks
-charlie

[cburt]

alright, as promised, heres some stuff i've been doin

this one is a little old but its tria and gouache of the emperor from Lynch's version of Dune
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/corotest.jpg

some quick head studies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/quickstudies.jpg

started as a ride on the BART but got kinda crazy, brush pen and blow pens
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/crazy.jpg

this got kinda busy and bizarre but i like it alright
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/pilot.jpg

technically, this is for class but i thought its pretty cool, ballpoint and blow (yes...cocaine heh)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/foodbiz.jpg

and this is a weird street vendor kinda concept i've been doin in ballpoint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/saintvendor.jpg

anyway, lemme know what you think!
thanks

-Charlie

[Zebz]

<3 <3 <3 I'm lovin' your thread more and more, bro. And yes, you're makin' that ballpoint tast soooo good! :wink:

It's been a while since I've stumbled in so I thought I owed a comment. I find your "fashion sense" to be very good. Please share some insight as to how you design some of these outfits, equipments, etc. That's an area I struggle with greatly. My figures are too bad but when I cloth them or pump 'em up with armor they stary lookin' even more crappy. Please help! You seem to be doing very well with your stuff.

I'm liking the idea of the saint street vendor. Are those lightbulbs forming a halo? Very cool. Can't wait to see it finished. Alright, you've gotta fan. ;) Get back to work.

[steak-tron]

great stuff cap'm. You get some cool looks with those characters, I like the intricate machinery on the vendor.

something that stands out to me: I like how you vary the scale on the intricate parts but the hands and feet on your characters look a little small. I usually try and oversize mine a little so they end up turning out the right size (sorta). It's something about detailing hands and feet that shrinks em', if that makes any sense.

keep em' coming. :)

[cburt]

hey thanks a lot for the comments and crits guys, i really appreciate them.

steak- i totally know what you mean on the hands and feet, i just happen to let it slip a bit...this great teacher i had for foundation figure drawing once told me that exaggeration was the key to believability. like, if you exaggerate the way the shoulders bend back or how far the legs are spread in a stance, by the time you've rendered a bit, it just makes the figure look involved and in motion....same could be said for hands and feet..i'll work on that

Zebz- thanks a lot for stoppin in man. yea, those lightbulbs are the halo on him, i think i'm gona try to do a digipaint job on it at some point and i think that'll really pop em out...as for the costume designing, i have some heavy influences as far as time periods and overall looks that i go for...i'm really interested in a lot of 1800's kinda victorian feel, lots of samurai stuff, cowboy, lots of desert and arabian wear...i really look for things that are utilitarian to the user and look comfortable and hardly ever very cumbersome...i also really like collars heh...i dont know why, they're easy to add on for compositional aids...i need to stray from them actually. but yea, i guess its just lookin around and picking and choosing things you see in the books and on the streets...the vendor guy is really just a cleaned up version of some of these homeless guys on the streets out here in the bay that have shopping carts filled with sh*t. anyway, hope that helps out some.

thanks for stoppin in
-charlie

[cburt]

hey all, just figured i'd post some of the stuff i'm working on currently...

i decided today that i havent drawn any girls for a long time so i'm pretty rusty on it and i'm gonna start drawing more of them...so heres a page with a couple quick ones
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/girlsjustwannahavefun.jpg
and i also decided that i should try working on environments since i really havent before..so heres a couple studies:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/city.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/street.jpg
and i picked up some bristol to get some work done outside of sketchbook, so heres a couple WIP's:
was watching a show on sniper's and felt compelled...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/snipe.jpg
this guy's riding some sort of skiff thing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/homey.jpg

not entirely happy with any of these but theres still room to fix em...just gettin em off my chest, lemme know what you think!
thanks for stoppin in

-cburt

[Zebz]

:^^: Mmmm! Just what the doctor ordered! Thank you, bro. Tons of inspiration in these, man. I love how you left some of 'em half finished so we could see your progress a little bit. I'd love to see that one vendor all painted up. Do you ever think of messages you're trying to get across when drawing or is it just pretty much whatever comes out? I've been trying to come up with som ideas since I have to appear to be really creative if I wanna BFA at my school. lol You have the gain entrance by your work. If not I can only have a BA. Which blows. Anyhow, awesome stuff. I love it when you update. Your thread doesn't get nearly enough hits. Consider me a fan! ;)

[ExeCute]

environments! they're lookin good, and it's cool to see you branching out. i like the 2nd one a lot, interesting stuff going on in there, i'd like to see where it goes if you keep working on it.

[Badger]

Hey man, your stuff is sweet. really liking such fluidity.
Hadn't checked back for a while, great to see such sweet updates. I love the Cat lithograph
-Badger-

[mos667]

Love the feeling in all of your pages, amazing stuff. It's incredible how well you handle ballpoint pen, very nice. The page of girls done in blank ink is really nice, love the feel of the girlies :) Will definately check you out on a regular basis!! :-D

[JadeDragon]

cburt,

This is a really cool sketchthread! I love your visualization, very original...I especially like the page at the top with the notes...I always like reading whats on the mind of an artist. And that motorcycle is da BOMB!

Great job man...I'll definitely be checking back. :)

~~~JadeDragon

[patternagainst]

Hey-yo!

These are really awesome.
Stay away from that white bitch for your own good.

[cburt]

hey thank you guys so much for stoppin in, i really appreciate it.

zebz- thanks a lot, yea i figured i'd post some WIP's just to show like how all over the place they get...i've got a really all over the place process that i go through...as for the inner meanings biz, i know what you mean, to get my BFA i've gotta do a lot of the same kinda stuff. so what i've started doing lately is looking at all of my pieces and pulling out some of the things i do on a regular basis when designing characters...like i have a lot of characters with bags and luggage and kind of a nomadic appearance (in my eyes anyway heh) that kinda just relates to how i kinda feel, in effect making them all self portraits. stuff like that tends to work on those conceptual thinkers. when in need, look to your subconscious heh. thanks again, your stuff is comin along nicely as well.

Exe- thanks a lot, i'm actually doin a digi-paint of that environment as an experiment...more to come on those for sure!

badger- thanks a lot for your comments, and thanks for stoppin in

Mos- thanks a lot, ballpoint is definitely my weapon of choice heheh...glad the girlies are workin for you, i'm gonna do a lot more work on catchin up on em.

Jade- thanks a lot, i love lookin at peoples little notes too...it can have nothing to do with the drawing but seem so appropriate and important to the page

Pattern -what can i say man, thanks for stoppin in again, your definitely dedicated to making the rounds. i really appreciate it and yea, i'll keep away from her hahaha, that totally made me crack up when i read it.

i'll be posting more soon, got some more work done on those WIP's to post.
thanks again!

-cburt

[Sinix]

Damn, hadn't seen your last updates. You've been rocking. Those environments are sweet. Now you just have to update more often.

[Prehistoric]

hey cburt,

thanks for stopping by my sketchbook and commenting.

i really like some of the stuff you have up here. your sketchy style of drawing is very good. i like being able to see the process even in a finished work.

i also particularly like the expressiveness of your hands. definitely something i need to work on.

keep up the good work.

[cburt]

hey everyone, thanks for stopping in

sinix- thanks a lot, i update when i can haha, not really much of a DSB thread

prehistoric- thanks man, i'm all about the process.

heres an update on one of those WIP's...just figured i'd keep showing how i go about my process and some of the changes that occur on the way...the thing he's riding is givin me some trouble though, i'll get it figured out soon....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/homeyy.jpg

thanks again

-cburt

[EccoXile]

ooh, i like this. killing the ballpoint pens, very good. very lively figures and lotsa detail in them. and i dig the enviroments you did. wow, for soemone that says he doesn't do a lot. i shall have to check back often now. :D

[cburt]

hey thanks ecco, my habits have actually kinda changed haha, since moving out here to the bay and not knowing anyone, mostly all i do now is draw...its making a huge impact on my work habits which is great...thanks for your compliments and do check back in, i'm trying to post even more often these days!

in fact...

heres a few drawings i did in my class tonight: "life drawing: the head and hands"...currently, we're just working on head anatomy, structure and what not. i did these in ballpoint and brush pen tonight in my sketchbook..and also, i took some photo's of my teacher's work to post eventually as an aid to some of the people who need some help with anatomy, thats right...my tuition is paying for you guys too! haha, so enjoy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/port1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/port2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/port3.jpg
not entirely happy with any of these, but not a bad job overall...
so let me know what YOU think!

and i promise to start a thread of my teacher's drawings soon, i think they'll be a huge help for anyone in need of anatomy work..they're really good drawings and they're helping me a lot.

thanks for stoppin in

-cburt

[Odds]

Awesome thread and progression cburt! I really really like your style... especially in that vector / illustrator piece about a 'playground through the eyes of a child'.
Your figures and portraiture is fun to look at, and it looks like you have spent a lot of time practicing those two things. Keep up the good work and keep posting for us. :)

[patternagainst]

keep em' comin' baby! i can't seem to work it today so inspire my ass.

[maxetormer]

Im likeing you skechts dude;
Im glad I found your thread
ill be waching :D

[-sideshowbob-]

w0w maan O_o awesome designs

hehe man ur hand is bleeding O_o killed a bug or what ? :^^:



really like ur lines and the rough look.. feels confuzed but touchable.. very nice O_o like a weather in the wind <3



m0re pls >..<

[cburt]

hey, thank you guys for your comments, i really appreciate them...i dont have much time or i'd thank you individually, but i gotta go back to class pretty quick heh...so i just thought i'd post a few things i did yesterday and somethin from the day before...been using some hitec pens for fun, nothin too crazy
this page had some anatomy stuff from class on monday, decent page i guess
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/spage1.jpg
doodle at the bottom of portrait page
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/spage2.jpg
hitec biz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/spage3.jpg
and range girl heh...i think it'll be better when i get a chance to color it a bit..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/rangegirl.jpg

anyway, heres my post, lemme know what you think!
thanks for stoppin in

-cburt

[Zebz]

Awesome as usual. What year are you? I'm still trying to get my school crap done too. I've got so much to learn yet. I feel like I'm so far behind. Especially when you look at someone else's sketch thread like yours or maybe even Wes'! lol I need help. Hardcore help. I have to have a BFA portfolio in by the end of this year so I'd better get really good really fast. Know what I mean?

BTW, where'd you snag those Hi-Tec's at? I've been lookin' all over for 'em. If there's some in your area maybe you could snag a few for me and mail 'em my way? I'd Pay Pal ya with a little extra! lol I've been wanting to try those out and can't get my hands on any.

Anyhow, awesome, awesome. The chick at the end is great. Thanks for the inspiration. Too bad I'm at work. And then I have class. Life isn't fair. :er:

[cburt]

hey zebz, currently i'm in the second semester of my third year...are you actually graduating this year then? thats coming right up..i'm definitely really glad i've got another year to kinda put things together more...as for the hi-tec pens, i picked them up out here in the sanfrancisco in japan town...i'm sure we could work somethin out for gettin em to you, just get me a shopping list haha..thanks for your comments, i always appreciate them.

and now for today's second update...some drawings from tonights model at my life drawing class...all are ballpoint and the first two are 15minutes and the 3rd is around 30 minutes...this dude had a great face to draw.
enjoy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/15-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/15-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/terry30.jpg

lemme know what you think! C&C appreciated!
thanks for stoppin in.

-cburt

[patternagainst]

awesome update. a few more and maybe you'll have the privilege of being a printout hung up in my studio spaces. portraits are not bad. ever try rendering with longer strokes? it may help give it a more malleable, fleshy feel to it. i like your figures a lot. i have a real hard time "page-planning" as my figure instructor calls it. i always seem to draw a bit to big and get focused on certain parts throughout the gesture which makes the proportion wack, rather than moving along the composition at a balanced rate. any particular mass of the body you start with? I've heard arms and legs, torso and breast, i don't know. once in a while i can pull a few good pieces out of my two hour classes once a week.

[cburt]

hey pattern, good to hear from you again haha, glad to hear youre liking it...i do need to figure out a way to incorporate those long strokes into my work, but its kinda hard to accomplish with ballpoint pen and at such small scale...but definitely something i need to work on...thanks for that advice. as far as how i start, i usually begin with the face and head to get my size constraints down and quickly go into the gesture of the figure, where i'll quickly plot out where the major axis' and joints are...i like working with the horizontal axis lines for the shoulders and hips, since often they'll both be at different angles, it helps push the movement a lot..and then i'll throw dots or circles down where the elbows, wrists and knees are. hope that helps a little.
thanks again
-cburt

[cburt]

alright, posting time again....enjoy!

so this was an experiment using hi-tec pen with ballpoint to see what would happen...still got a bit more testing to do...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/styletest.jpg
heres some portraits from tonight's class, all ballpoint:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/ports1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/ports2.jpg

and heres a guy i started earlier today and where i'm at right now...little WIP for ya..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/diego.jpg

there they are...there you are...lemme know what you think!
C&C appreciated

-cburt

[patternagainst]

Really nice stuff. I'd like to see some finished or fully-rendered portraits. Always a sucker for that academic-realism. How much are you paying for your tuition right now at that Missouri school?

[cburt]

hey thanks pattern...yea maybe one day i'll try to kick some finished ones out, but right now those are from class and we're working with between 15 and 20 minutes of time per pose. but later in the semester i'll probably be doing some more finished portraits. as for tuition, its the same range as the rest of the art schools out there, but i'm actually doin school in minneapolis...just originally from kansas city. but this semester i'm in san francisco on an exchange program.
thanks again man
-cburt

[King Odessa]

Charlie your work is looking great. The light and volume on your portraits is looking hella solid. I love the arabic guy with that insane gun. Your tenchique and style is starting to show through in your work. I think we should try a colabb togather we should exchange characters and post them togather.Be a good way t do something different, I just really want to do a collab before I graduate.Otherwise looking solid.

[patternagainst]

That's awesome. San Francisco is looking really good right about now. As for college, how do you afford it? Did you get a scholarship? I'm just looking for insight as I am a prospective student. March 1st is my deadline.

[Nike]

great updates!
love that w-i-p :)

[cburt]

odessa- MIKE, thanks a lot man, colab sounds like a GREAT idea, i'll start coming up with a concept for you if you get one for me...if this sounds good for you, lets set it at no more than 5 phrases/sentences describing the character and background...i'll send you a message on here with my concept and you should do the same for me with yours. glad to hear my technique is showing through, its feeling like its getting a lot more refined in the past month. talk to you soon man

pattern- yea haha, san fran is a blast man, well worth the move...as for costs, i have pretty decent scholarships and grants but i also do loans. it ain't cheap! but i think it's pretty worth it.

icey and nike - thank you both very much, i appreciate your comments

thanks again for checking in, i'll post more stuff tomorow probably

-charlie

[Xiomari]

these are some nice renderings,lets see more.

[cburt]

thanks xiomari, i'mm workin to show more hahaha

in fact...i lied about waiting to post till tomorow...i got bored and decided it was time to try out painter 8 since we have it at the school i'm currently going to...so heres my first painter test painting...mostly spent time in the face...which should be pretty obvious. but i also should have used a better scan:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/diegoptest.jpg
from here, i gotta really establish a better light source and kinda kick around more color shapes so it doesnt get muddy, but its an awesome program..let me know what you think (C&C), or if you have some good tips for that program, they would be greatly appreciated.

thanks for checkin it out

-cburt

EDIT: just realized that hat is way to frickin bright...gonna need to drop that down a lot...sigh, so much to do, so little time...

[patternagainst]

Any chance of seeing your portfolio material?

As for Painter 8, you use a wacom right?

[Imageproof]

this is a super sketchbook! I absolutely adore the way your sketches look really chaotic and fast, but still have such a tremendous detail!!! go on with this amazing work!!

[Zebz]

Nice updates, bro! It's good to see you workin' so hard! The paints are a nice change of pace too. I hope you enjoy it and maybe work it into your ballpoints more often! Those portrait studies are really nice too. Do you sort out any understructure first or do you just sort of dive in with them? Keep it up!!

Speaking of ballpoints, I went by Office Depot and snagged a Zebra pen like you mentioned. The tip isn't as fine as yours (this is a .7 and yours is a .5) but holy crap does it work like a dream! The ink flows much better than the crappy bics I was using before. It's all I've been using! lol Whenever I get an update I'll let you know so you can see my deviations with da' ballpoint. :tihi:

Awesome work, can't wait for more. BTW, I'd love to collab sometime too. If you'd lower yourself down to working with me!

[cburt]

thanks everyone for checkin out my stuff

pattern- if your asking about the portfolio i used to get scholarships, no, theres probably no way i'm able to get that to you right now...the slides and photos that i know of are tucked away in a box in the basement of my apt. building in minneapolis..haha, so no chance...and yea, the painter thing was done with a wacom tablet, it was my first time every really using one of those too...lot of fun once you get used to it...looking forward to using it and painter a lot more soon.

imageproof- thanks a lot for your encouraging words, i appreciate it

zebz- for my portraits i usually lay down the basic sphere of the head and add the jaw extension onto it, then place the major axis points...thats all done in like 15 seconds or so along with general placement of lips eyes and nose...then i lay down one general and very light value shape which (depending on the lighting) usually goes from forehead all the way down to the chin....i feel like thats the easiest way to break into it quickly and really create the volume, and it gets you thinking about the whole portrait before things get too skewed...to get that stuff done generally takes about a minute for me, then its just looking at some of the other individual value shapes within. this has been the most effective way for me to do portraiture, but i'm by no means an expert, hope that helps out some. as for a colab, dude, no lowering whatsoever man, i'd love to do a colab, the structure i suggested for odessa was one we'd talked about at school, so we could either do that or trade off on an individual drawing...lemme know what you want and i'm down for it man. thanks for stoppin in again, get your stuff updated!! haha

ok, so this is a kinda wimpy update...we didnt have a real class tonight so i dont have portraits this time :dead: but next week i'll have some more for sure...so actually, all i have for now is an update on my diego drawing...just a little more filled in and it kinda shows how i'll change things as i go, you'll see....i'm not entirely happy with this drawing, and i kinda had a realization of some things i need to be doing in my pages that i'm gonna put into affect starting tonight...so here he is, still not finished:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/diegoupdate.jpg

now i gotta put that weight into his crutch and left leg and finish the stumpy leg and get him some atmosphere...hope you enjoy, and C&C is most appreciated!

thanks for stoppin in

-cburt

[King Odessa]

Charlie the pirate guy is right on I love how you can always see the under drawing in your work.and the build up of gesture. The painting is looking good-nice colors(face).Did you like using the tablet? Anyways I drew my last sketches on green card stock and added the rest in photoshop. But I think you are right guoache is the way to go. Michael Kareken is being a big help this semester. Take him for a class when you get back.
Alright collab time- I want you to see what you can do with RON my one of my crustacean characters.Think about layering and emotion- The idea of these characters being real. Also a little creature in big clothes yeah thats it. lets see what you come up with. Do this in your spare time. Keep It up!!

[patternagainst]

I really like how the books are actually sitting in that bag. The sense of weight throughout the comp. is really good.

[isabellerose]

wow your work fucking rocks man. i totally dig it. you have amazing technique and the layering is unreal. keep it up bro. :) peace

[EccoXile]

im realy liking this guy. nice character, something you dont see too often.
the color, yeah, could use work with the lightsourcing. never used tha tprogram so I don't know how the brushes work. I would either use a different brush with more texture, blending, opacity in it, or i would use a bigger brush. but yeah, dont know how brushes work there. wanna see more of this color stuff though, see how you rpogress with that :)

[Alexandertheduk]

Hey Cburt,
Thanks a big one for your helpful comments as per your request I have sized it down alot. I totally agree with adding more front veiws but I'm so chicken shy I can only draw people when their looking away.
In addition I really got personal with your works and boy do you know how to work that pen...I love where you take me with your work. Did you know that just last night I was admirering your work and it was the last sight I hit before I posted today. Hey much repsect you are on a level I'm striving for so please be a good mentor and drop in often and leave me criticism I especially love harsh criticisms. Thanks you my lord.

[IanE]

Cburt...

No critiques... just praise. Really awesome style you have, I like it a whole lot! Really loved your environments and the skiff guy! Range Girls seems to be a really cool piece... finish it!!

Do some more environments, I'd like to see that. Also, keep doin' what you do, it's working very well for you!

I'll check back more often.

Ian

[Rich Pellegrino]

WOW! I'm impressed with your rendering abilitys! good anatomy and creativity. I'd like to see some more finished pieces tho'. Also try to pay attn. to how drapery folds and wraps around things like beds, people, etc. and you handle forms quite well but when you get to the face it tends to flatten out. good job! keep them coming!

[cburt]

hey, thank you all for your comments and everything so far

odessa- mike, thanks a lot, havent started drawing RON yet, but i've got a lot of free time this weekend to get crackin on it...thats awesome you're in one of karekan's classes, i had him for foundation figure drawing and he was great...super sharp and knowledgable and actually does good work to go along with it haha...yea, that wacom tablet is awesome once you get the hang of using it...

pattern- thanks a lot!

isabellerose- haha, thank you, i'll keep it going for sure...like mickey-d's i'm lovin' it...

ecco- thanks for your comments, i think that the main thing for me to work on with the painting is just to keep on practicing though haha...and i'll be doin a bit of that shortly. but, yea, i totally wanna start making my own brushes in there so i can get some with more textures...theres so many brushes and the effects they create are very unique, so its gonna take a while to really learn that program...try it out or just flat out buy it if you get the chance, well worth it so far.

icey- thanks :wink:

alexandertheduk- haha, you're too kind man, thanks...as for drawing people from the front, since you're drawing on the subway, somethin that i've done here on the SF subway is when its dark out or when in the tunnel, the windows go black and allow you to see a decent reflection in them and i draw from the reflection if i can't get a good feel about lookin directly at em...but i've never been to NY let alone ridden on the subway...i'll totally be droppin in on your thread so no worries haha. thanks again

Ian- thanks a lot for your compliments, i really appreciate em...i'm gona try to do some more on those environments, still a total novice at em, and DO check back more often man, i'm tryin to keep a lot of work posted on here...well, whats a lot for me anyway. heh, thanks again

voodoo- hey, thanks a lot for your C&C, i really appreciate it...yea, cloth isn't the easiest thing for me for sure and i'm always tryin to figure out better ways to make it convincing, but i think it may just have to do with dumbin it down a little.

thanks again all of you, i really appreciate your comments....don't really have anything to post for today, but i've got some stuff i'm workin on thats a little different...took a step back from my work cause i was gettin bored with just doing the straight on drawings of a dude standin around, so i'm tryin workin with space and dynamism a bit more...we'll see how it works out. :canadian:

-cburt

[bonedog]

What up Cburt... I just stumbled on this thread and just realized that we briefly met a couple weekends back at Canvas.

Anywho, cool thread you have going here. I gotta run but keep up the good work, yo. I dig them ballpoint portraits. Maybe we'll bump into each other again sometime.

l8z,
Bonedog (Aaron)

[Roman.L]

Wow CBURT, really interresting rendering style you got there on these faces.

[rodrigo!]

i love the way u use a ballpoint pen woohoo!
more more more !

[cburt]

hey, thank you all for your comments, they are much appreciated...
dont have much time, and i promised myself i wasnt gonna post a WIP of this...but i'm pretty excited about it and its been consuming a lot of my time...so heres somethin i've been working on thats ballpoint primarily with hitec and brush pen as well...no refs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/rocketman.jpg
right now i'm working to finish it off and to punch some of those darks further so i can pop the highlights in...leme know what you think
thanks again
-cburt

[Abra]

Great stuff man. Love the sketches (both from life and mind) and great map maker concept. Your inks are also impressive.. i need to dabble more w/ them. I'm sure their is much you could teach me :dead:

-abra :confident

[King Odessa]

Damn Charlie that new peice is hot you just set your self a new standard.Your ball points are like mama's milk I can't live without them. I started sketching ideas for windham and his damn monkey. Don't worry about doing this peice if you are busy. School is kicking my ass to. I posted pictures of my sam- armor and tomorrow I will post some pics of My crab armor in process.Keep it up!!!!

[EccoXile]

wow, love that last one. got really good contrast going, very dynamic/expressive. thanks for showing the wip :D

hehe, i tried painter 8 actaully. tons of brushes, i jsut messed with it, nothing good ever came from it :P i really didnt get too into it enough to try and use it liek i should have. though, i could probably get another eval of it, test again. try and actaully learn the damn thing :P

[cburt]

just thought i'd post some replies, hopefully i'll have somethin to post up by the end of the day.

abra- thanks a lot :wip:

odessa- you know how we do haha, yea i think this one stepped up a bit above the rest just cause of how much more interesting it is than the regular ones. glad you like it, thanks

ecco- thanks a lot..ya you should give painter another try for sure, i was really impressed with it, felt a lot more natural painting in it than in photoshop too...AND THE BRUSHES...gah, so many..haha, have fun


thanks again for lookin, C&C is more than welcome, i'll try to get some work posted if i can
later

-cburt

[Target]

You can handle that pen alright. I have to admit I'm not terribly attracted to the "underdrawings," to messy for my tastes, but man, when you hit it with the ballpoint and start to render...woo...it's pretty. Pretty damn nice. I'd love to run my hands over some of your more filled up pages...I bet it's intense.
You color work is alright, as well...more would be great, but it's not to shabby. Not to shabby at all. I love those two lithos.

[cburt]

hey, target, thanks for the comments, much appreciation

heres a small update, nothin that i'm too happy with really, but thats just how the game works i suppose...all from life drawing class

mondays class i decided to use pencil which i havent for a while...so it was kinda tough gettin back into it...its fun though...a lot faster than ballpoint:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/eyes.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/ears.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/pencilport1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/pencilport2.jpg

and these are tonights in ballpoint

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/penport1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/penport2.jpg

promise i'll put more interesting stuff up soon, just gotta finish it...thanks a lot for stopping in and all C&C are very very welcome

later
-cburt

[Dished]

Hey Man!

These are all so awesome!! I really like the way you render your drawings, especially with the ball point pen, its so unique!

[patternagainst]

Your definately getting more realistic in your new portraits. Dope, son!
I'd like to see you try to start rendering the side planes of the faces. I too have a habit of starting with the eyes and working outwards and I know how classes and time constraints are. Awesome update. Keep the inspiration churning.

[maxetormer]

Iv really liked this one:

rocketman (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/rocketman.jpg)

Its one hell of good sktB page!, you got
some nice textures and the top view
of the machine fella add a lot to the dinamics
of the page, make more experimetal angles and poses like
this one, keep on challeging your self the way youv been
doing lately, looking good, :D your pics made my day :D

[cburt]

hey, thank you guys for checkin my stuff out, its much appreciated

dished- thanks, heh, its my weapon of choice

pattern- yea, those side planes can be a real bitch, my life drawing teacher said that its just such a mystery as to how to work em in. i think of it as trench warfare and those sideplanes are no-man's land. but i'll see what i can do about it...its probably more easily activated by the lighting though, right now these all show the blasted out lights comin at the head from both sides and their prime hitpoints are right on the temples causing that whole area to lose some of its planes. i'll see if i can work with some more dramatic lighting

max- thank you so much man, i'm glad you liked. i'm trying to push myself more into that realm and your support is a big motivation. >:D

thanks guys, i'm gonan be drawin most of the night and weekend i think so i'll be dumpin some stuff soon.

later

-cburt

[buzzz3d]

Hi Cburt, thanks for checking out my sketchbook.
You have great drawings in here, I especially like the WIP's since they really show how you work.
I love your pen-drawings,
keep it up!

[isabellerose]

hey i really like the unfinished picture of all the eyes. i have this intense eye phobia but for some reason eyes are always the concentration of my own art. it's so weird. but anyway, not to sound too much like your old high school art teacher, but i really like shit where the pictures look unfinished. (although clearly your art teacher would not have chosen to use the "s" word.) obviously it's just you dicking around in your sketchbook, but you can really see your thought process and how your complete pieces come together at the end. i love it. peace

[cburt]

buzzz3d- no prob, and thank you

isabelle- thanks a lot, i almost didnt post those eye and ear pages but decided to in the end...glad you liked it. and process is such a huge part of what i do that i'd be kidding myself if i didnt show it i think. so thanks for your support

not too much craziness to post today really...

was working with pencil some and did these
i like this one okay...not used to doing creatures, it was fun:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/primemin.jpg
this is dumb:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/couchgirl.jpg
this is dumb too but it was an exercise to draw the bald model and give him hair:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/fro.jpg
this came out alright, was drawing a lot faster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/irvine.jpg
and this is star wars concept i started earlier...and thats an airship...long ways to go:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/jedi.jpg

yep, anyway, there they are, let me know what you think, C&C is much appreciated as always.
thanks for checkin em out

-cburt

[buzzz3d]

Good work.
I like the arm on this one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/primemin.jpg) and this one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/jedi.jpg) is excellent and deserves a color layer :)
On this one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/irvine.jpg) the eyes seem to be a bit too much to the front of the face (I think).

[maxetormer]

The confidet strokes and pose of this
one, REALLY made my nigth, there is something
about her stance that I just like, :D
couchgirl (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/couchgirl.jpg)

[ExeCute]

that jedi's a babe... i'd do her

[JeroArt]

Beautiful works you've got here!
I especialy like the style you did on the motorcycle!
And nice, kind of, focuspoints. By finishing some parts, and let some parts sketchy. Makes that loose feeling :P
sorry i have no crits, you're a lot lot better than me, though everyone has it's style hehe ;)

Keep it up!

[mengde]

i have great respect for you and your abillity to draw with pen without mistakes, and make such well proportioned and anatomically correction faces. I love you drawinf of people, very good

[cburt]

buzzz3d- hey, thanks a lot man hah, not sure if i'm gonna add color to that one yet...i'm workin on finishin it out, got that whole right hand side to take care of...workin on more compositional pages lately or at least fillin the space. and you're right about the eyes, i had even moved em back once...just didnt get it close enough the first time heh :wink:

max- dude thanks so much. i really appreciate it...wasnt sure if i was gona post that one or not, isnt that far along really... glad i did though.

execute- yea, HE's one hell of a jedi >:D

jero- hey man, thanks a lot, you're stuff is lookin really good too man, keep it comin

mengde haha, thanks man, but theres lotsa mistakes goin on in there...just gotta find a way to use em to your advantage...or at least a good way to cover em up heh.

thanks again, i'll update this weekend hopefully
later

-cburt

[Zebz]

Awesome stuff man, I can't wait to see more. I like how you've applied some of your pen knowledge to pencil in some of these last posts. Very cool. Keep it up! I want more conceptual stuff! Lovin' it, bro.

Sorry I haven't been posting or updating much. My GF of 3 years broke up with me last weekend and I'm still strugglin'. Hopefully I'll be back around soon. You just keep doin' what you're doin'.

[King Odessa]

More great work from you I'm not surprised I wish we all could some where warm to draw during the winter.Time to be serious- I love the prime minister he looks like slimey politician.My fav is the hand study. And you say you can't draw creatures. Also your lighting and line work is really starting to show especially the subtley you acheive in the eye studies. Your definently on the right path so keep it coming.-I've got the helmet and the shoulder peices done Iwill post them soon. Otherwise enjoy the sunshine and hanging out with cool people bastard!!

[patternagainst]

Diggin' the side planes!!

[heri]

your gestures are awsome! a line here and there and you seem to capture the pose! full of life!
I gotta try to paint my sketches in PS. yours are awsome!

-heri

[steak-tron]

nice work Charlie, you've got a whole slew o' new posts up.
I really like that self portrait with the robot.

[dadamafia]

dude i really like your rendering style. its really sccribbly and you should see me like 1cm away from the screen analyzing it. coool beans to you my friend adn keep updating.

[Jokisalo]

i see you have lotsa fun with these sketches oO damn man i love you, marry me please :P
i like the most your last one!
more please!

[Eyal]

good stuff
ur x hatching is trippy.. crazy shit!

[cburt]

but i'm enthused again, went to see the final fantasy symphonic performance last night and it was amazing....so i am drawing once again and i will try and get some stuff posted tomorow night after portrait class.

zebz- dude, i'm sorry to hear that man, but dont let it stop you, let it fuel the drawing fire heh. lookin forward to your updates. thanks man

odessa- hey thanks a lot mike, means a lot to me, swear i'll start workin on ron soon hahaha

pattern- dude, i had you in mind when i was workin on em ;)

heri- thank you so much, much appreciation

kemp- thanks man, workin hard on that one...we gotta hang out soon and draw again, was fun that night at canvas...maybe this weekend, i think i have your number, i'll try and give a call.

dada- haha thanks man, glad you like it

jokisalo- hahaha man, you're crazy, your stuffs lookin really good too. thanks

eyal- thanks a lot, glad you like

anyway, i'ma go draw some more, be seein you all tomorow night i spose
thanks again

-cburt

[cburt]

oooooook, so i dont have too much to show but i do really like what i've got...for the most part

heres a page of hands from tonights class...we just got into doing them today so i'm kinda rusty on the observation of them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/handpage.jpg

and heres that jedi WIP... still not done heheh, but i'm gettin really into it so hopefully that'll be kinda cool when its done...
the tones on the jedi are workin the way i wanted em to for once, pretty velvety. and the dude in the corner feels off to a good start
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/jedipage1.jpg

anyway, sorry i dont have more to show, but C&C are most welcome.
lemme know what you think

-charlie

[King Odessa]

Charlie I like where the Wip is going the compostion is looking sharp.I love the Hans style blaster pose its right on.Be careful not to work into them to much then you lose of of your fab line quality. Otherwise looking good.I'm scanning a bunch tomorrow so I can post your character studies. Keep it up!!!

[darkos]

Hey, love your stuf　man and the WIP is sweet.
I often use the ballpoint pen too but I struggle with the control of the values. I guess I should use more my whole arm than just my wrist.

[Bustarail]

Love your work dood, pretty fresh. Ball point is the way forward. Brinking on profesionalism i reckon

Busta

[liam.c]

man you made soo much progress i really really like all thestuff you been up to mate ! on this last one it looks like your man the jedi is siting but im not shrue if hes supposed to be >? if he is cool ) nice down shot if hes not maby bring his hibs forward a little tward us or maby its cuz his feet are liek half on that raised up part .. either way it looks awsum man :)!<could maby put his right leg back a bit and up on the raised part and would work for standing down shot too i think

[DYNASTY510]

Yo yo
CellBlock4shizzle
All I gotta say is I Shudda never listened to my teacher's horror stories about ball point pens.
You still suck though. But in a good way. No not like that...
forget everything I just said
Payce

[Main Loop]

Yo yo
CellBlock4shizzle
All I gotta say is I Shudda never listened to my teacher's horror stories about ball point pens.
You still suck though. But in a good way. No not like that...
forget everything I just said
Payce

haha let me guess, barbara bradley?

[D Thurman]

I like the subject matter and style
Very accessible with an historic feel.
Also I lke how you evolve the compositions.
I need to work on developing my sketches into more
complex concepts so I am interested in your process
of creation.
Some of my drawings share could use some color added.
Where is the setting that allows you to
scan while leaving off the white of the paper?
Thanks,
Darrel

[cburt]

mike- thanks for the advice man, i really appreciate it...dude, you gonna be around mpls this summer? i'm back in june and we gotta do some hang out and draw time.

darkos- i hear you man, you just gotta take it nice and slow from the start and let em build up, patient medium for sure...kinda why i've been using pencil lately heh

bustarail- thanks a lot, i really appreciate it

liam- hey thanks for stoppin back in man, good to haer from you again...yea, i agree, somethings up with the stance of the figure but at this point in the game its kinda tough to fix it in the figure, so i'm gonna see what i can do about the surroundings to make it look right

dynasty- haha joe, you're crazy man...we should do the hotel crawl soon for sure, and no, you should'nt have listened to your teachers horror stories.

that goes for you too mainloop, get ready for another crawl

d thurman- hey thank you very much, i try to bring out some history in my work, so i'm glad its showing...as for the coloring sketches, when you scan it to photoshop, turn the drawing layer into either a 'liner burn' layer or a 'multiply' layer in layer options and that'll turn those white pixels to invisible pixels..hope that helps

ok, heres some stuff i've been doing, been having fun with pencil lately:
hands
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/handsss.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/handssss.jpg

i've been reading the golden compass, this is lyra from that story:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/lyra.jpg

my own concept
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/magistrate1.jpg

drawing i did of my teacher during his lecture...with weird abstract subconscious composition warm up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/vince.jpg

aight, hope you enjoy, C&C most appreciated

-cburt

[King Odessa]

Charlie nice update. Your pencils are starting to match your ball points damn!! The portrait of your teacher is my new fav I love the subtleness of line you are really able to capture personality.I've been real busy to I understand its hard to post all the time.are you working on ant bigger projects or are you just killing your sketchbook? Lyndsey and I just bought a house on lake Phalen in St.paul She got a good job at snbc the cable shopping network. Shit i started rambeling sorry.Anyways we have a bar and a game room small but aswome!! Nice to see your work Everytime you post I see improvement Keep it up peace!!

[cburt]

mike, thats so awesome, glad to hear you guys found a place...how far away from school is that? its good to hear that you'll still be around when i get back, this summer we'll have to do some serious sketchin. thanks for your comments to btw, the drawing of my teacher was done like started from life but mostly done from memory, so its a little off, but that doesnt really matter since you've never seen the guy >:D
good to hear from you

-charlie

[liam.c]

ooo man that last one was soo heavy i think one of my legs broke

[patternagainst]

:spits beer out:

Aw shit, niqqa!

[cburt]

thanks you guys, heres a pretty sub-par dump from my new sketchbook.
first 4 are hi-tec .25's and brush pen, last 2 are pencil

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/sherriff.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/flackjacket.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/handhand.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/greta1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/greta2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/greta3.jpg

some stuffs a little wonky but there ya have em, lemme know what you think. comments and crits very welcome.
have a good'n
thanks for stopping in

-cburt

[maxetormer]

How are ya doing man! pretty dam impresive by the looks
of this works he he, I never have enougth of your crosshaching
tecniques, this is IMO the best portrait you have done so far:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/vince.jpg

its got some crazy shading variations and and good caring for the
planes of the face, it really blowed my mind.
The best davise I can give ya is maybe try to unificate the shadows,
try seening them as flowing shapes and not as separated spots of dark.

take a look t this one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/greta1.jpg
it has some problems on the definition of shading,

were as this one has a way more solid start:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/greta2.jpg

did you see how you masified the shadow tones like a line on the
rigth side of the face, the ligth was coimg form left and you had a strong
bounce ligth form the rigth, if you skwint your eyes, you will
see that shadows fallow rithms all the time, you just need to find em,
the more conecctions you find in shadows the more soild your figures will
look, this becomes harder if you have multiple ligth sources, and
if the face has a lot of wrinkles that bounce light in all direcctions
it just and old advise form one of teachers, and Im just learing how to
shade so take my advise with a pinch of salt he he :P

and at last I wanted to thank you for the indeep comments
about my work they were very helpfull and I really apreciate em :D

see ya later and keep on rocking man!!!!

[uRiDiAN]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/15-2.jpg


very impressive stuff overall... on some of your drawings, had i not read that you were using ballpoint pen, i would've guessed pencil. i should totally be trying pen.

what drew me out of the wordwork was that i totally recognized this model as Terry, as i have had him as a model a whole lot of times at AAU. great likeness. :)

[Zebz]

Sweet work as usual. :^^: I really like the hatch-like style you use to render the forms. I think it would be interesting to see how your stuff might look if you tried a different approach, maybe a smother value transition. Maybe an idea for experimentation. You've got some very cool styles going on though. I'd like to see more of your imagination stuff though, honestly. lol I know I shouldn't say that because this stuff is defiantely going to help you a ton... but, you're so freaking creative man. I miss that stuff. :tihi: Keep doing what you're doing. I'm looking forward to an OC with ya soon.

BTW, updated my thread... not much other than crap there but if you get a chance you might take a look. Or not. You could spare yourself the misery. :dur:

[cburt]

max- thanks for the advice, thats stuff i've been trying to work on more and more...i think i'll be able to put more effort into it in a couple weeks when i'm done with school, bleh...thanks for droppin in though man, always appreciate it

uridian- hah, yea thats terry alright, he's got a great face to draw. thanks

zebz- yea, i've been tryin to do some new shading styles a little bit, mostly cause a lot of the time i can't establish a good light source, so i'm trying a lot more with value shapes right now. thanks for stoppin in man, always...you're stuffs lookin really good lately so dont stop doin it, just gotta keep on movin with it no matter what the circumstances, you'll make it through.

aight, heres a few life drawings from class, nothin special really...first and last are pencil, middle two are pen and poorly done at that...but thats what i get for goin outta practice with ballpoint. *kicks self in head* thats alright though, having more fun with pencil lately anyway. enjoy


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/rows.jpg
bleh:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/gary1.jpg
bleh:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/gary2.jpg
i like this one aight:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/FriarChuck/gary3.jpg

anyway, yea...i'll post some more concept-y stuff once semester's over and i'm free to do it again. in the mean time, C&C very welcome. thanks for stopping in

-cburt

[hurricane]

very nice stuff and awesome progress!!

makes me wanna sketch on paper... cheers !!


*gone to sketch*

[King Odessa]

Damn charlie its been awhile your drawings are looking fine. You seem to be really refining your pencils. Your observational drawing is making huge strides keep up the good work. I'm putting togather a sketch group for around July. After all of this graduation shit it out of the way. I'm about to drop the crab. See ya soon big M!!!

[steak-tron]

dayom nice pages charlie

[patternagainst]

It's hot... disco inferno...

You're doin' really well. Just a thought, try a drawing darkening up the value and leaving more white - get a spotlight in your portrait class. I don't know, just thought it would be cool and it looks like you kinda did that in your last drawing. It's funny how much different a pen feels than a pencil, eh?

[liam.c]

shit man !! real exeltn stuff man !
strokes really remind me of dave makean pencils <wish he still used a pencil >
totaly great stuff man !!!

[~Faust~]

Man those are just gorgeous ! <3

I guess when I'm at that level in 10 years or so, you will be one of the masters others are studying from!

[Nifelfang]

Man, that's just incredible!
Really cool pics, you've got talent, keep em comin ya!

peace

[maxetormer]

Hey man looking gooood :D I really like the last one
you have sum really unique way to draw
just keep refining your tenique man,
and keep on experimenting!

Nick Pick: some times I feel that the structure of the
eyes get lots on the crosshaching, perhaps doing some
studies to figure out how to aproach eyes could
be a good idea, just remeber to take my advise with a
pich of salt he he Im just learing like you :D
you are doing sum kick as job no the less!

See ya!

[cburt]

hey guys, i just wanted to say thanks for your replies. they all mean a lot to me and i'm sorry its taken so long to reply.. after returning to the midwest from california i did a lot of thinking and put a lot of my sketching on hiatus.. currently i'm back in school in minneapolis and back in the printmaking field doing some kinda different stuff.. i'm also enrolled in a bookmaking class though where i've been making some sketchbooks with some really nice drawing paper so once again, my motivation to sketch is kinda comin back strong. so be expecting an update in the very near future, i've got a little more stuff from when i was out in the bay area and a few things from summer, and several things from so far this semester.. just gotta get it all scanned/shot to camera. thanks for holdin up, you guys are awesome.

-cburt

[Zebz]

BUMP! You promised me a post, man!!