View Full Version : Your FEBRUARY 2003 SP THREAD (use your head)
February 2nd, 2003, 06:08 PM
Sorry it's me again (where is a Keyth when you need one?)
I've tried to be late and skip the thread opening but... i can't stay too much away from here so.. here I go again.
If you are new around.. dig a little in the depths of the Gues SP area - and if find the way back... try a SP and post it.
USE YOUR HEAD.. the very right way! ;)
1 Feb 2003
February 2nd, 2003, 06:55 PM
to introduce myself:
February 2nd, 2003, 07:32 PM
Yay! 6 more weeks of winter! :grumble:
went overboard with the lines on this one
1st thing in the morning SP
Patton you are hilaaaarious! :D You dont give yourself enough credit those self portraits are great. I like the 1st and the 4th ones the best. The other seem just abit too flat in contrast and perspective, but the colors and proportions are quite good in those 2.
Rusty besides what you said about proportions i love the merging of biological and mechanical you do on your nose and lips
Blackhawk two very expressive SPs, your use of color is very emotional
Thats creepy Coriat, why not add some colour?
Oblio thats really simple and effective
Looks good Bibi welcome
February 2nd, 2003, 08:30 PM
reeves: I did physics in my first year of uni along with computing as I had to take a science course so I know just ho hard physics gets at uni :). I have done some particually nasty theory coursesin my time but since most of the theory courses I dislike use some form of discreet maths in I always look on that as the basis of all evil :).
bibi5000: That looks good welcome to the board
ummo: Rockin colors :).
Here is another quicky at 100% opacity. Next I will have to get out of the habit of painting over my mistakes and get my marks right first time ;)
February 3rd, 2003, 07:04 AM
Benzo,thanks for not letting me gett away with things :).but yeah i already pointed out that i stuffed up the proportions,because i was focusing to much on detail i totally forgot about proportion,..i tryed to justify it by adding 2 eyes on the left side to try an balance it out,but it screwed it up even more..lol..
Ummo i really like that sketchty one,very cool,kinda the style i do alot...other ones great aswell..thanks,ya ive been inspired by Geiger recently,....
wellcome bibi5000,.nice first entry.
Oi Oblio ya havent painted up that one i wanted to see yet.hurry up ;p....i like the one you started this thread on,nice and simple,yet its effective..maybe just work the eyes a tad more.Its just looking a little lifeless,try and give the eyes that spark of life,which is oh so important..yeah,b a while till i get a Tablet,All my cash goes into board,food,shit like that,but im slowly getting there :)..
Hurry up Lionel i need yer secrets..;P...nice SP,no way i couldve done one like that..
Blackhawk,ya,try and finish those man,specially that second one,i like where that ones heading,...Your probably as lazy as me ,i lose concentration after an hour or so.but try and finish it anyway..
February 3rd, 2003, 06:30 PM
I've been doing my SPs mostly digitally lately. I HATED the last ones (check the end of the January thread... my post there is horrid)... I'm not exactly happy with this; but I'm not as unhappy as I was before...
I just read the replies last night, and Oblio pointed out about using perspective in my SPs, especially since I move my head some... I never really thought of that. I think I know what my big problem is: to keep myself lookin at myself from the same position, I try to make a 'visual note' in my head about the angle. For instance, I look at how far my eyebrow is from hairline. Only problem is (which I never really thought about before) was that I can tilt my head forward and backwards, but my eyebrow will still be the same length from my hairline. Soooo... if I only move my head back a little each time I look, after an hour i could have moved it into a totally different POV.
SOOOOO.. I just noticed that last night. Let's hope I can keep my freakin head in the same position, and think of everything in perspective, instead of just shapes!
Oh yeah, Oblio: "Where is a Keyth when you need one"
Is Keyth's real name Keith? cuuz, that's my name... :-D
Oblio: You're improving so much. I dunno why I like this about your latest SP, but, I like how the perpective on yor nose is applied. And the shape of your lips and chin area are really nice... But how about rendering them eyes some more?
Just a suggestion, eh
Bibi: Nice. I like the colors in this. The only thing that bugs me is the ears, they seem like they're placed really close to the head... know what I mean? Your ears might be shaped like that, though. So, check for yourself and see.
Ummo: thanks :) unfortunately I couldn't see your stuff; something about exceeding your traffic quota limit for the day... I'll check back tomorrow.
Lionel: 100% opacity, eh? Did you happen to be inspired by a Mr. Hibbs? ;) ;) heh Everything here looks pretty good...proportions look good: the forehead might be a tad long, but I didn't notice it until I looked for awhile. I think the colors are good, too. Keep it up, yo.
February 3rd, 2003, 07:34 PM
ummo: Thanks! Same to you! I like the second one better: It's the look in your eyes.
Lionel: Thanks again! I must have seen hundreds of Selfportraits of you at sijun.
Rusty: Thanks! (I will have to look into a dictionary for a new word for "Thank you")
Patton Art: Really? I thought about painting over the whole image with a more "oily" style because I don't like the colors, but I didn't have the time. So I will leave this as it is.
Yes, my ears are really small, but they're not that scrumbled. ;)
I like your expressive version of your ear, btw.
February 3rd, 2003, 08:11 PM
Rusty: Sorry I tried to do a setp by step thing tonight but I just couldn't paint. Probably just to tired
Patton Art: I was definatly inspired a little by jibbs :). That sp is good though try to not focus on the details and get the big planes of color right. Using a bigger brush may well help
bibi5000: There are even more of my self portrats her than at sijun :)
Just couldn't get one done today
February 3rd, 2003, 11:05 PM
Here's mine, I'm very slow with self portraits so hopefully I'll do them a little more regularly this month. I tried not to rush this one like i usually do and went for a different perspective. Please be hard on it especially the hair. I hate the hair!
bibi: i'm probly not the right person to welcome you but...welcome! and great sp
ummo: cool sp's, especially the first, i love the sketchiness
Lionel: I was looking at your stuff last month and I can see a ton of improvement over a couple months ago when i last checked. I'm not too crazy about the 100% opacity paintings although i'm sure you have a reason for them
Patton: I didn't think your digital sp's from last month were that bad but this one does look better. Especially the right eye, which boggles my mind
February 4th, 2003, 12:54 AM
(where is a Keyth when you need one?)
here ya go.
February 4th, 2003, 02:17 AM
im still kicking, to everyone who noticed my absence. i still havent missed any :D
keyth-great to see your face as usual, the red patch under the nose is working great, you can really whip these out and still solid as hell. how long did that one take you?
nottabird-i dont have a problem with the hair so much as the overall perspective of the head. it suffers from what ive been calling 'composite view', as in, two or more views in the same head (what patton was mentioning above). you can tell if you cover the right side or left side using the nose as dividing line. this is something i struggled with for a looong time before realizing what the cause was. as i gain experience i realize more and more how important it is that two things remain constant; the artists view of the drawing surface, and the subject itself. when doing self portraits you control both at once, making it that much easier to turn a small twist of the head into a disfigured face :rolleyes: only tip i can give is either pick easier poses or block in the whole head first thing.
lionel-howdy, glad to see ive inspired someone else give the opaque painting a try :P second one (lines) is interesting but a bit rushed
patton-about bloody time you started posting :p
ummo-lined one has a nice sense of form, and i dont think you went overboard. the second one reminds me of vaseck klouda, good sense of light.
bibi5000-welcome aboard. youre off to a good start. the eyes seem a bit large, and the neck a bit small to support the head. otherwise great, keep at it.
ive been trying some different stuff this month, especially tonight's, which is from an alternate SP idea list that pattonart and i put together when we started :evilbat:
February 4th, 2003, 04:12 AM
ha - jhibbs - i've done one with long hair myself. (i plan to cut it so i've imagined i've let it grow a bit more).
I'll pot it asap.
Also... Rusty - i've started working on that one but after few minutes of frustration my head blood vein exploded - i had to stop.
I've figured - while mates of mine are burning neurond in alcohool and crack i'm using pixels instead. It can become veyry dangerous. For sure it's adictive ;)
patton Art - (little keyth so to speak :p) - thank you for your words. I'll try to follow your advice. (i've done over 160 SP's and i think i need someone to point out things for me now.
I'm always finding something challenging in SP's but i have also to keep working the basics. )
Here is another tip for you (btw- you are doing REALLY REALY well) - don't try to copy what you see. Thry to draw a head and only the the mirror inspire you. Check the mirror only to see details - but the construction of the head should be done using just knowledge - axys, perspetive, etc. The when coming to proportions and features check the mirror.
Try a VERY VERY quick one - just a rough sketch. Then.. paint it over if the proportions ans features look ok.
as i've said it before : USE YOUR HEAD :D
(i'll post mine later, ok?)
February 4th, 2003, 06:14 AM
Here's a new one. You see me here ready to get breakfast (cigarette+cupoftea). I have to leave for work soon, so I took a quick, rather artistic approach.
Lionel: Really? How many have you done? :D
nottabird: jhibbs is right. Try to block the whole face before you start to go into details. I draw an egg shape first and then make little markers where the nose will start and end, where the eyes will be etc. Not that I get this thing right all the time... ;)
keyth: I. am. impressed. How much opacy do you give your brush?
jhibbs: Your nervous style is great. The Nose of the girl's face is strange, aw, didn't find the word in the dictionary, what that part is called. The root of the Nose (that right?) is to wide and her eyes are to far apart.
Puh, it's really exhausting to give comments in english.
February 4th, 2003, 05:14 PM
A quickie before go to bed. sorry i´m late this month...
February 4th, 2003, 06:09 PM
Ugh, I feel like a zombie. I have had 8 hours of sleep in 3 days... weee. I got an SP done though, so I'm glad.
Oblio - My SP's aren't that good, they are just alright. I'm glad you enjoyed them though, you enjoyed them a lot more than I did. I need to find a teacher or a mentor to steer me in the right direction, it feels to me like I'm starting to unravel and I need someone to help pull my art back together again. That last green SP kicked ass. I like how it looks like transparency film over the eye. Keep them cranking Oblio, don't be a bum like me :)
Benzo - Thanks for the crit, sometime I finish my SP's to completion, sometimes I think they fit my mood better when I hit a certain point in the SP. I'll be cranking on it, and then I'll hit a spot where I got aahhh haaa! That is where I stop, it really depends on my mood, those last two were completed as far I wanted to finish them, but I will definitely try the idea of working on one over the entire week, it would fit my schedule better :D
Bibi - Welcome to the thread, these first two SP's are a good start, the second one though feels like it could benefit from some better form through the values. The nose area became lost too me, but it's entirely subjective with SP's anyways, I don't know what your goal is in doing these. Keep them coming man.
Ummo - Thanks. I like the first one a lot with the lines. It gives a very sharp, blocky appearance, very enjoyable. Last one looks good as well, it has a very extreme perspective, I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the forehead is huge and it tapers down to a really small chin. Regardless, good work man.
Rusty - Like I said to Benzo, it was as far as I wanted to take it, I've spent 10 hours on these SP's before, so I don't think I'm that lazy :D But what do I know, I could be getting lazy, I'm doing a lot of outside candid life drawing to make up for it though. I can't afford any life drawing classes right now.
Lionel - Good job on the painted one, the forehead seems kind of flat to me, the inter-muddling of colors make it patchy in spots and to my eye, it kills the form on it a bit, nice job though bud, I haven't told you how impressed I've been with your recent SPs. That pencil break really helped you out.
Patton - Nice job on this SP, looks like you have an extreme case of nosehair there :D As someone else pointed out, don't worry much about the details and just block in. Details are easy to add in laster on after you have the meat of the picture done. Your on the right track though, keep on practicing.
Nottabird - Nice, challenging perspective, eyes look flat to me though, really flat, I think it's the same line weight that you have all around the eyelids and eyeball. Work on varying the line weights and it should help to bring some dimension to them.
Keyth - Great SP bud, when are we going to see a new twist from you? I'd love to see you throw a curveball every once in awhile and try a different style or brush. You have the skill, now here is my challenge to you knock our socks off :D
Jhibbs - LOL, that girl rendition of your SP had me laughing. I never imagined trying to do a gender-bender, looks like an interesting idea. These look great, the first one is a great idea, I get kind of lost in it though, I think it's because it's too busy all over and it doesn't feel like it has a real central focus. Other than that, nice work my man.
Jaku - Good work man, looks like the bottom of your face has burn scar tissue. My only issue is with the mouth, it seems like it's either too low from the nose or too wide, one or the other. Keep them cranking bud.
I'll try to finish one more tonight if I'm not called in for work. Have a great evening everyone.
February 4th, 2003, 08:42 PM
nottabird: That looks good there it is a really hard angle to draw. The reson fo tdoing the 100% opacity s I blend my paintings to death and was an apemt at trying to kick the habit.
keyth: Howdy stranger
jhibbs: 100% opacity is good practice. I tried to paint oils again recently and I reallised I was getting into bad habits with all this low opacity stuff :/. I like thouse new ones a lot.
bibi5000: This is my 88th :). With that one try to not folow the faces outline but really look where the areas of light and dark are.
Jaku: Nice going on that one be careful about muddying your colors
Blackhawk: That one looks cool and GET SOME SLEEP. I don't understand how you can concentrat on an sp with no sleep
It seems to be really really hard to paint these this week :/. This one has been a really strugle :/. I don't know why but these seem to be getting much harder.
February 4th, 2003, 09:12 PM
February 4th, 2003, 10:45 PM
Lionel the work you put into you SP's is amazing. i started to do a 100% opacity today and scrapped it.. much more work than i expected. Looks great. The newest one looks like you are about to faint.. your eyes seem to be looking up.
Patton i like this new one alot. good range of values, and Nottabird said it, your right eye... quite good! :D
nottabird good rendering, but it seems like there is something awry with the perspective near your ear.
keyth looks like you sculpted that one out of clay very 3d
jhibbs your SPs are always really cool but the 1st of this new batch takes the cake. Looks like an Sp done from a reflection in a window. Oh and as a woman you are quite the looker :dead3:
:machinegu Kill the zombie!!! Blackhawk no seriously what lionel said get some rest. Beutiful SP tho, very minimal, love the muted pastel colors.
Clayrodery neat style. is that a digital painting?
tried to find many of the shapes in my face
man.. its very hard to get a small (filesize) jpeg out of an image with alot of small details
February 4th, 2003, 11:48 PM
got another one coming...
February 5th, 2003, 12:05 AM
first painter portrait...why does painter 7 have to suck so bad?!!
February 5th, 2003, 04:45 AM
uh.. i've been late on uploading. life is a mess here.
brokencow - thank God P7 sucks - otherwise you'll kill us with perfection! good to see you back here!
ummo - last one is dope. the skull looks a bit pointing up - makes a long face but overall it looks sharp on!
clay v3 - welcome. Lovely style.
lionel - man - i want to see a extra saturated one from you!
blackhawk - doped me again. i'll have to try that red nose thing too. beautufull palette.
jaku - work it a bit more friend!
bibi500 - welcome. let's see an even softer one. blend the values a bit.
February 5th, 2003, 03:09 PM
I am trying, but maybe not hard enough, to do my homework Oblio.
I couldn't keep my hands of the computer tho, here is one from memory
Oblio is getting so good man. Even the sparse unfinished? one looks like you.
Brokencow, the slick colourful one, the eyeballs aren't looking in the same direction. veriy confident work.
Blackhawk, some soporific vibes(not tested on animals) beautiful subtle seflportrait
promise more comments in time
February 5th, 2003, 06:02 PM
mia - Very good! Keep measuring. I can not tell how important this step is. Mind the axes - eyes, nose, mouth and CHIN (your first drawing) are usualy paralell.
here - this one is for you!
February 5th, 2003, 08:37 PM
clayrodery v.03: Wow very cool you make it look so easy.
ummo: I really like thouse pen ones you have been doing they have a really cool look to them.
brokencow: They are both really cool. Painter is a bit of an arse to get used to but you seem to have got good results
Oblio: That color one is very cool love it.
miasmak: You drawings seem to be getting better. Don't forse youself or you will learn nothing :).
This one is dedicate to ChiaNi. For drawng this
http://myweb.thump.net/1613/loinel4.jpg It was the look on my face after I saw it.
February 6th, 2003, 01:50 AM
Brokencow those are nice!
Oblio that colored version of you being angry..fantastic
miasmak i think the second SP on each page is the better one. your eyes in the first ones seem to be off.
Lionel i think this is my fav SP of yours that ive seen it seems more vibrant and its not just the smile :). Chiani is kick a$$!! she has some massive skills, and that is so awesome that she did that portrait for you :D
this one was interesting drawing with light instead of laying down darkness:
February 6th, 2003, 03:15 AM
Great work everyone. I'm going to head to sleep since I need to be up in 5 hours, but you are all doing an incredible job. I get off early tomorrow, so I will comment tomorrow, and that's a promise. Night everyone.
February 6th, 2003, 09:14 AM
yep, i'm still alive, living in the big city of hamburg now, dunno yet if i like it.
happy you guys r still at it, always a pleasure to come back.
February 6th, 2003, 01:07 PM
nice everybody, keep at it
mine from past 2 nights, homework assignments for portrait drawing and life drawing classes (both SP's) both are vine charcoal, the red is pastel.
blackhawk-awesome job on that last orangish one, it wasnt showing last time i went to post.
February 6th, 2003, 05:24 PM
jhibbs: those are awesome.
yea, i hear you blackhawk. back in the day i had a lot more time to spend on spods. not trying to sound like an excuse...but i'd spend hours upon hours on just one. my time is a little....well there's a little less. but you are right! i keep doing the same thing over and over.
i'll try something for the next one...maybe later tonight. i've been doing a lot of 2d animation lately believe it or not.
cheers to everyone else!!!
KEEP EM COM'N KEEP EM COM'N KEEP EM COM'N
:chug: :chug: :chug:
February 6th, 2003, 08:48 PM
ummo: some of your features look a little off on teir place ment but the value is rock solid I like that one
Blackhawk: You have improved so much these are getting really really solid
retro: Damm glad to see you again. That one rocks as always
jhibbs: Love thouse pencils they are great
keyth: It is great to see you still posting even though you are pushed for time. Don't beet your self up about not being so inventive there is a lot to be said for refining a style
I must be a little bit mad to be doing all these sps :)
February 6th, 2003, 09:48 PM
Joining in the fun...
This is my first self portrait done in the computer...Still learning how to work with both painter and my wacom graphire. I know compared to the others in this thread it sucks, but I am actually surprised pleasently with how it came out in the end.
February 6th, 2003, 11:50 PM
i was going to say this is for andrew and jason but this sucks...i'll do a better one for them instead of this.
February 7th, 2003, 03:39 AM
retro ...so organic. i remember your portraits from a month or so ago glad to see more :D
jhibbs :eek: ...wow
Hey Lionel it really seems like you've got your face down pat, after the countless SPs you've done. This is your 90th? Do you think you could do one from memory? Fun lighting.
Ajax hehe looks good if simple, howsabout some more detail on the next one?
Brokencow so did Andrew and Jason come to your school for some workshop?
i dont know why i did both of these so small, thought maybe something interesting would happen. i usually like pixelated images but ....meh:
February 7th, 2003, 05:56 AM
I have the weirdest feeling. It finally feels like everything is finally coming together for me, yet at the same time it feels like it's completely falling apart, I don't get it.
Lionel - Thanks, you'ved improved quite a bit yourself, these SP's of yours are getting stronger and more expressive. It's really starting to work very well for you. Keep it going bud.
Ummo - lol, thanks Ummo. It looks minimalist, but I worked on that SP forever, it was a bitch to do. The one you did acouple days ago is fascinating with all of the circular shapes in it. It helps pull it together, very nicely done.
Clay - Welcome and nice SP. Almost looks like that actor from Honey I shrunk the kids, what's his name? Gah, this sleepiness is hitting me hard. I know it's Rick something or another. :D
Oblio - Thanks, nice job on this set of 4 SP's, your coloring of the teefy one is very nicely done. Very interesting stuff you have going on all around, I really dig the variety.
Brokencow - Nice work all around on your last set. Arm and hand setup is funky in the last one, but overall superb work.
Mia - Thanks :) Nicely done sketches. There are general proportion issues and facial skewing, but your line quality is improving a lot, beautiful set.
Retro - There you are again bud :D It looks like your starting to incorporate more distinguishable facial features, good to see you again man.
Jhibbs - No problem bud, my ISP which hosts this crap, has been acting really funky the last week or two, I pay a lot of money to these guys and they can't run a decent connection. These two SP's are awesome, the first became skewed around the mouth, but overall you executed both nicely.
Keyth - You don't have to do another style for my sake, I just thought it would be interesting to see you throw a new variable into the equation so to speak. I always enjoy a little mold breaking :D
Ajax - Welcome and don't worry about how we percieve it, I can easily show you some of my worst from when I first joined this thread and it would give you a good laugh. Come enjoy yourself and learn.
February 7th, 2003, 06:26 AM
@jhibbs: wow, those charcoal pieces are great!
@blackhawk: i thought life is all about not getting things lol :D i enjoy seeing your style evolve. hope to see some non-portrait works from you again
February 7th, 2003, 11:18 PM
better than the first one....?
February 8th, 2003, 01:28 AM
made these 2 today :)
Ajax: cool :) one comment though.. try to study your skull.. notice the flater part in front and the stuff on the sides.. feel your bones as you draw. check out someone Androids sketches where you can see his bone structure. That helped me kinnnda understand the facial bone structure.
retro: awesome as usual!
blackhawk: wow!! I really like that
brokencow: great style
lionel: stilll impressed by the great colors you choose
February 8th, 2003, 05:55 AM
February 8th, 2003, 06:57 PM
:bow: - blackhawck - you are kicking me out! :bow:
netbox - can't see them :(
ajax - your nose is looking at me!! :D draw some axys first! ;)
retro - you are still the best on your field! amazing!
February 8th, 2003, 07:00 PM
and then it turned to this!
February 8th, 2003, 07:03 PM
February 8th, 2003, 07:24 PM
without the glasses for my third...will try to post some comments about all of the others on here later... All are pretty damn good
February 8th, 2003, 07:26 PM
oh and the eyes are right.... I have a lazy eye when I dont wear my glasses....
February 8th, 2003, 09:25 PM
beh, i'm loosing it. Next few ones are going to be sketchs till i can paint again...
February 8th, 2003, 10:45 PM
update on the one i did a few days ago...
February 9th, 2003, 01:54 AM
February 9th, 2003, 06:21 AM
page from my sketchbook(a bit smaller than A4 size paper),highlights/colour of the paper i did on photoshop,a few hours worth of sketches here..
ill comment tomorow,i promise..
February 9th, 2003, 12:06 PM
hi all, i still cant shade, but i (think/hope/hopeverymuch, that the proportion on this one is a bit better :D it looks a bit like me, which is good, right¿
note to self; tell oblio he roxorz.
oblio, you rock!
i'll give comments tomorrow.
February 9th, 2003, 04:21 PM
msg to coriat: well buddy.. i'm very glad to see you still at it. Yet.. proportions are not quite there yet. You're close thought.
measure the distance and angle of the lines that go from your chin to your ear. the space between your nose and mouth.
the mouth should be paralell with the eye/nose line. for now.. :p
to rusty: ah crap - i've got to buy such a wonder scethbook myself! that eye rocks! no.. the other one ;) :D
to mia - lovely my lady! next asignement - draw your skull only! if you got that right - continue with some features - eyes e.g.
clay - umm.. great drawing (i have a problem with the comies though :bash:
broken - no.. you're not! it's a bit too saturated for my taste but it looks top for me! :chug:
ajax - try to think your drawing like it is a 3D thing. You need to work a bit the form - meaning - to make it look more 3D. Try a low-poly approach - like you will simplify the shapes - e.g - make your nose like a small piramid.
Also - try putting a strong light on your face - use a lamp - it will create a strong shadow and the form will read better.
We will focus on values later.
mind the proportions - your mouth comparet to your eyes - seems small. try drawing your skull over your SP - see if it fits.
keep it up.
February 9th, 2003, 05:22 PM
coriat, there is still something wrong with the mouth, it is facing in the wrong direction (ask me I do it all the time :)) what pencil are you using perhaps you could get a larger value range with a few different ones
Rusty, I like the side view one with the missing nose and cpu parts best, especially the volumes on the cheeks which you explore with lines rather than shading. Also I think it is the wistfull expression.
brokencow, I like the green and orange combo on the cheeks on the shadow side, the eyes look like they belong to two different people. It may be because the shadow side one is larger end the value of the pupil and iris should be as dark as the other side and it seems lighter.
ajaxSerix, axys is what my homework from Oblio is all about. draw parallel horizontal lines through say the pupils, brow, bottom of nose, lipline, bottom of chin whatever you need. And a vertical centre line. make sure the features are in the correct positions relative to these line. Measure feature placement using e.g. the width of your eye. straighforward, yet not as easy as it sounds.
Oblio, Strong neck muscles the right eye seems to be squinting in a bit. on the previous your lefthand horn looks a bit out of proportion :P rushjob? the previous two, top of head is too large I'd say, but this distortion gives it an eery atmosphere which I like. Perhaps the nose and lips could have done with the same careful treatment as the eye in the faded left eye one. I'll try the skull thing next, thanks for keeping me going.
retro, I have probably said this before, but I love your line quality
blackhawk, you are in such a strange mood lately, this is good for your selfportrait content :), the red empty one has the weirdest tension between such an in-your-face colour choice and such a subtle understated drawing. Looks like you were planing to draw a whole lot more but stopped yourself in time.
February 9th, 2003, 11:50 PM
Coriat: Look into a soft pencil like 4b to 6b youll find a softer lead will make it easier to lay down tones... You migh also try charcol you can smuge it around real well.
Rusty: All your stuff is great...interesting to see you keeping the terminator thing.
miasmak: Love the top image...love to see you take that pose further.
Brokencrow: Love the colors its got a nice soft feel to it... like a old movie poster...
February 10th, 2003, 12:35 AM
Oblio, my sp has nothing to do with communism or anything of that nature, just typographic design. just needed to clear that up :)
February 10th, 2003, 04:18 AM
I'll comment tomorrow when I have the time. I need to be up in a few hours, my timing is horrible.
February 10th, 2003, 07:04 AM
i aint that good with colour but i still like how this one came out..about an hour to do,an yeah with a mouse and mirror..
ears come out a bit lop sided but ,meh, im to lazy to fix it..
quite well proportioned Ajax,maybe just blend yer colours a bit more,dont be afraid to throw on alot of paint...dont restrict yerself..
nice sketches Mia ,..proportions r a bit of,but im sure you know this...yer line works coming along,step in the right direction..
nice play on negative lines Blackhawk,almost looks like electricity or something...Those other sketches r fabulous.pat on the back..
great to see yer sketches again retro,keep em coming..
execelent stuff brokencow
ive been totally blowen away by those recent SP lionel,...hurry up ..oi,when the hell ya gonna do that Step by step SP ,i need yer knowledge.hurry up ;P...
great sketches Ummo,is that ballpoint pen?..that last one..
superb charcoals Jhibbs,you certainly have got skills...i like that first one,has a good shilouette..
nice one netbox,almost reminds me of disneys Tarzan...
Oblio ,great youve finally done that picture and it looks nice :)..maybe colours to saturated but i do that as well..
That brown coloured one on the other page ,that eye is very well painted,welldone...in a starnge way reminds me of the scarecrow of the wizard of Oz..lol..
February 10th, 2003, 06:41 PM
Here is a much quicker one.
February 10th, 2003, 07:42 PM
new haircut. terrible hurry - pencil & paper then some photoshop tweak.
ugly me and uglier goofy face - i just felt like doing them.
i'll comment tomorow.
p.s. - mia - don't kill me for these! :D
February 10th, 2003, 09:00 PM
I'm not dead yet. Sorry, no comments today, although there's really some amazing stuff here and I would like to tell you how much I love your drawings and paintings. They get me through the day. Really.
Oblio: Didn't blend the colors on this one, too. I am losing my patience to quick. I promise to do so in future :)
February 10th, 2003, 10:12 PM
Oh well, I was just finishing my 27.000st Cigarette and kept on drawing...
/edit. memo: blend colors, blend colors, blend colors...
February 10th, 2003, 11:21 PM
February 11th, 2003, 03:25 AM
rusty-wow that sketchbook page is crazy go-nuts, i like the lower left head the most, has such a strong base in anatomy yet not human, great job.
brokencow-losing it? you must be nuts fool, doesnt look like your losing anything there. you have a way of making high-key work well, keep at it.
ive been getting in the habit of only posting a few every few days (still havent missed any yet), and also i havent really done any 'normal' ones lately. been trying alot of new stuff. heres one from sunlight, and one with lines (tonights).
actually my second tonight, i did a halfass one and after coming and seeing everyones here and andrews i decided to give it another shot. wasnt quite with it today, some ass decided to use really fumy turpentine instead of odorless mineral spirits in painting class :mad: semi-bengal inspired
February 11th, 2003, 05:32 PM
ultra super mega tera samba mango very quick!
February 11th, 2003, 06:56 PM
February 11th, 2003, 07:57 PM
Great Work every one!
February 11th, 2003, 08:34 PM
bibi5000: What ever you do don't get hung up on blending colors. It is much better to chouse the color you wish to use rather than get it by blending. For example when you want to blend two colors into each other don't smudge them into each other but chouse a color in between them and paint that between the two colors. Blending is the root of all evil imoh try to do it as little as possible
AjaxSerix: Looks good try and concentrat on the shap of the nose
jhibbs: Thouse zero opacity ones are rocking. I love the smell of whit spirit. I once oil painted in my bed room and was having funny dreams for days :).
Blackhawk: You shading is getting much more subtal looks good. Possibly some darker darks would really lift it to the next level.
Hexal: Looks good but really concentrat on the shap of features like the eyes and nose.
I started off this one then went to the pub half way through which meant I had to finish it off in a rush when I got back. Try to guess which bits are before and after ;).
February 11th, 2003, 09:07 PM
keep'em com'n folks!!!!
:chug: :chug: :chug:
February 11th, 2003, 10:59 PM
FIRST PAINTER PORTRAIT!!!!!!
I'm really starting to like this program.
I just need to learn how to make my brushes look good.
These portraits are killing my time. But i love doing them.
Some good stuff from keyth, rusty and black hawk.
February 12th, 2003, 03:01 AM
ok. the general consensus is that it breathes...but we're not sure it lives. the it being me.
wowowowow everyone is rockin! i miss it here!!!!
oh blackhawk your last portrait put a smile the size of ...something big...on my face! thank you!!
gah. i hate commenting on a few and not everyone..so..um...i'll...ahh...yeah...
February 12th, 2003, 06:52 AM
long battle to do this one,still not pleased with it...over an hour to do...
ill comment tomorow..
February 12th, 2003, 10:10 AM
Rusty the volumes are looking good but there is a proportion problem, the face doesn't seem to match the ear. Not sure which is out. I have to admit it does look a bit laboured.
ilex good to see you here again, mmm your hair hasn't grown much, or did you chop it again.
brokencowGreat start with Painter. I suspect it doesn't quite look like you yet, Keep at it.
keyth keep em comin
lionel love the background colour, it makes the colours in the face glow as well. I'm sorry I can't spot the post pub pixels.
Hexal good to see you are still here, how about some confident(yet sensitive) lines even if they are in the wrong place.
jhibbs love the sunlight one I can see the 100% opacity practise paying off.
bibi memo: don't blend colours, don't blend colours unless you like mud. The crisp white on this one works imo
Oblio now why would I kill the whipmaster if I need him to keep me going? The goofy faced one really made me laugh yeah you could nit pick it to pieces but the expression is so comical. (I have fresh skulls, just need to get near a scanner)
February 12th, 2003, 12:11 PM
I guess this is where we post these. I don't do em often enough.
February 12th, 2003, 12:27 PM
oh dear serves me right for waiting, now I have to post after mcoties marvelous one.
The man said skulls and to stop myself focusing on the eyes too much, I left them out.
February 12th, 2003, 12:55 PM
Mia - Thanks for the comments and nice work. The red one I did want to take further, but it never looked right when I did, so I left it as is. I have been in a weird mood lately though, I can't quite explain it. I really like this last bunch of skull SP's, good work.
Rusty - Thanks man. These last bunch have been great, especially that sketchbook page. I can see the struggle in this last one, the proportions look weird, especially around the mouth. The rest is nicely done though. Keep it up bud.
Brokencow - Thanks, there has been some phenomenal stuff from you. Really stellar portraits all around. Painter is a bit of a bitch to learn, but it has so much freedom to it it's hard to go back to Photoshop, atleast for me it is.
Keyth - Nice work bud, I really like it around the eyes, you worked some nice crispness into this. Good job.
Lionel - Thanks for the crit bud. Yeah, I could have used some more darks, especially around the eyes. Nothing too strong, but my eyes and cheeks were flush too much and it flattened out the face on mine. Nice job bud.
Ilex - LOL, well I'm glad it pleased someone, I don't know what you'd like about it though :D Good to see you back though, what have you been up to? Nice hair on this one.
Hexal - Welcome back bud, the improvement is definitely coming along, like someone else said, really concentrate on that form, and if you can, go study some skulls from life, it'll really help you when your trying to incorporate it into your faces. It really helps to have a strong understanding of underlying structures, bone and muscle.
Jhibbs - That second one in your last SP is great bud. The lines and color come together nicely, especially with the vibrant lips. Nice.
Oblio - WOW, you are cranking these babies out. Really very nicely done man, your seemingly working harder than anyone else here and it's starting to pay off, nice work bud.
Ajax - Keep it up bud, watch out for the proportions on these. Some of these the head is becoming way too squat. Keep working at it.
Bibi - Don't get hung up on blending colors too much, it's always interesting to have paintings that have interesting edges and texture. Blending usually kills a lot of those qualities.
McCotie - Awesome rendering man, this is a really nice SP.
Sorry my comments weren't too informative, I'll try better next time. Great work everyone.
February 12th, 2003, 05:03 PM
brand new in charcoal
February 12th, 2003, 07:18 PM
oh.. ahh - so great new stuff here.
clay - lovely texture - what kind of charcoal? mine never gets so fine :D color in photoshop?
great value handleing - maybe darker on the shadowed side of the face? maybe not!
blackhawk - thx. i'm not even trying enough - i barely manage to draw 1 hour/day at best. here - this one has your signature - you are inspirational budy - thank you!
mia - YES! a true delicate and huge step ahead - now - let's forget about that hairi line - get a black marker or something like ink etc - stuf you can not erase and that does strong marks and continue doing SP's with that tool.
mitch - oh boy - seing stuff like that makes me realise how manny years i still have to practice! disspointing yet... challenging! thx for shareing and for paying us a visit here !
dr rusty - love the back light - it still has some cartoony feel - but it works for me!
see you tomorow!
February 12th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Oblio, it's that Charkole stuff (no idea why they misspell it on purpose) and General's White charcole pencil. The color is 97% real, it's sepia because it's on toned paper, but i just needed to add a little blue to the midtone and cyan to dark to make it look how it looks in person.
February 12th, 2003, 08:41 PM
clayrodery v.03: Nice charcole though I thing there are too many highlights or some of them are too strong
miasmak: Damm thouse look scary with no eyes
mcotie: Damm that is one nice sketch. The only thing I would say is that the eye brow is too angled which makes the top of the nose look funny.
Rusty: That looks good. You might find painting esier to get a handle on if you blend less. Edges between dabs of color can really make a portrat
brokencow: That one looks real good. I too need to figure out how to use painters brushes I am hocked on my modified round camel hair brush
keyth: Rock on man that one is awesome
I wanted to spend more time on this but have to go to bed as is my Birthday tommorow (well tecnically now :)) so I need to get some sleep. I have reached the grand old age of 23 :). It took me quite a while to work out how old I am which must mean I am growing older ;).
February 12th, 2003, 09:38 PM
BrokenCow: keep punching away @ painter. with your skills you are bound to fall in love w/it. thanks for the kind words.
mitch: great to see you in here and not slobbering on the scanner:p . awesome job! more, more, more.
mia: I think these last batch of drawings are AWESOME, especially the first one. YOU keep'em com'n.
Bhawk: thanks for the kind words! you get better and better.
Lionel. Thanks man! I'd be interested to....WAIT! I just got an idea.
Ob: it looks as though you had too many beers. ha.
Keep'em com'n bro!
keep'em coming everybody else WHOA!!!
a quickie for today
February 13th, 2003, 02:33 AM
The most difficult portrait I've done in a long time. I emotionally and physically don't feel well and and it make's it difficult to keep my cool while doing these. It's frustrating but refreshing at the same time.
Clay - Nicely executed SP. I really like the negative lines for the shirt, a really interesting SP.
Oblio - Thanks man :D It always feels good to hear that. That's a great SP man. I will return the favor to you as well, take it easy bud.
Lionel - Happy BIRTHDAY! Ok, great job man, enjoy yourself. I have my 21st rolling up on the 23rd of March, I'll probably spend my birthday weekend committing sin in Vegas, I need a break :)
Keyth - Thanks man, nice job on the SP, the chin area is kind of confusing, but nice quickie.
Goodnight everyone, have a good Thursday.
February 13th, 2003, 04:05 AM
ilex are your eyes really 2 colors?
Clayrod beatifully done
Miasmack those are great studies
Lionel! Congratulations! Why the sour face? being 23 cant be all that bad ...can it? :D I like it
just started snowing when i did this one, giddy as a schoolgirl. Winter can last 12 months as far as i care, so long as it snows a little everyday.
February 13th, 2003, 04:07 AM
Happy Birthday little Lion!
:chug: :chug: :chug:
February 13th, 2003, 05:31 PM
it's cool to do the same mistakes over 'n over again...
February 13th, 2003, 06:33 PM
Haven't been here for quite a while (two weeks or so) doing all that Middle Class Stuff... But I'm still alive!
In the meantime you all did an amazing work. Be sure that I follow your progress even if I'm not around daily any more. Keep up the great work!
Today I bought some Conté pencils (following iwasink's advice) and tried a quick portrait just to get the hang of them. I can say: I love them!
So here's my portrait, I know, still lots of mistakes but even my Mom said that it's very close to what I look like, so what the hell! (Mistakes I'm aware of are the misaligned eyes, a too long area between nose and lips and a weird dark shadow along the left cheek I have no idea where it comes from... - anything else?)
February 13th, 2003, 06:41 PM
my latest, a bust "ooh, ahh", yeah right :)
ps- HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIONEL!
February 13th, 2003, 07:55 PM
oh.. to loose and sleepy!
February 13th, 2003, 08:05 PM
keyth: Looks nice and fast and lose
Blackhawk: That is one of you best. I am very jelous of that color. Don't dispare you have come soooooo far
ummo: 23 doesn't seem so bad. Thouse are good
self portrats I like the colored overed pencil one
jester: Try to concentrat more on you shading. Try to get more different shades
clayrodery v.03: That is really good. I look very shiny :)
Oblio: I know that sleepy feelying well :)
Well I am now 23 :) Been a fun day though I feel a bit sad for doing a self portrat and not celerbrating. Mind you am having a party in Cambridge this weekend with my Girlfriend who has her birthday tommorow. This one is a bit rushed but they all seem to be that recently as life is kinda hectic :).
February 13th, 2003, 10:32 PM
Ended up missing a couple days due to schedule... will comment on those I missed later...
February 14th, 2003, 03:12 AM
February 14th, 2003, 03:54 AM
little sleep and little food has left me feeling drugged up. it's a weird sensation and not a completely unpleasant one but it's distracting me and making me say/do weird things.
this was supposed to be a rushed portrait but i have no idea how long i've been sitting here.
mia - i think i did cut some more! this portrait shows the reward my hair gives me when i actually wash it - they used to call me medusa in school because my hair is so messed up. 8( i really enjoyed your sketches esp. the 3rd image because there seems to be some personality coming out of those...sassy!!
lionel - happy bday! you look tired in this last one...i like the different expressions you've been portraying in your ports..
blackhawk - dont know why but i always look forward to seeing yours.this last one does not disappoint. i love how you've gotten so much detail and depth without using any lines... i wish i could do that.
ummo - nothey're both brown. i am nearsighted in one and farsighted in the other though!! hrm...maybe that's why i always draw one bigger than the other...your second one is great..love the color palette
hi keyth..this last one seems a little bit different..i think the two different browns - the lighter on the left and the darker on the right - are making me think this is more of a graphical portrait and for that i really like it. i love how simple it is and i feel like you'v got a candle glowing on it or something.
February 14th, 2003, 04:25 AM
I gotta get to sleep really soon (it's 3:00 AM and I got class tomorrow)... BUT, I did my SP, and I'm not happy with it, but I guess I've made progress since my first few digital SPs.
Tell me what you think about todays; and give me an honest critique! Also, I'm mostly concerned about color. My friend (jhibbs) is tryin to get me away from thinkin with lines and worryin about rendering so much, and he's makin me not even do the eyes!
tell me what you think about the skin colors. i just got "painting beautiful skin tones with color and light" by chris saper today... i'm gonna study it while doin my SPs every day... hopefuly it'll help.
I'll leave comments tomorrow... I want to make a good SP for valentines day, since i'm SINGLE and gonna be sittin at home on my LOSER ARSE, i'll have plenty of time to leave comments! heh
February 14th, 2003, 04:45 AM
Was done in a rush (~15 min) because I am allways in a hurry these days. But this will change soon and then....Muahahaha... I'm gonna post more stuff, like I did last year. I really miss that :(
February 14th, 2003, 05:58 AM
Keyth your skill is humbling. if you could say, what critiques do you have of your own work?
Very intense ilex. your nose looks a tad small.
Patton valentines day is for sukkers! well not really. actually im just jealous and lonely. anyways your SP looks nice and im no expert but the variation of hue in your skin is minimal , but a good range of value. also your right cheek looks flat.
100% opacity SP. I cheated tho... used the eyedroper and an old pic of myself to make a 40 color palette. In my opinion the color picking without a limited palette is the hardest part of doing something like this.
February 14th, 2003, 01:03 PM
me trying to get things right.
Wizard of KOZ
February 14th, 2003, 03:01 PM
Man, schools been kicking my ass but I managed to sneak one in... great stuff as usual everyone!
February 14th, 2003, 06:45 PM
sort of pic used for ref.
February 14th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Happy Valentines day all...
February 15th, 2003, 05:17 AM
God, this is the most tired I've felt in a long long time.
February 15th, 2003, 06:05 AM
i tried to do a 2 minute port but it turned into longer.
February 15th, 2003, 05:56 PM
i'm with blackhawk! comments next time maybe - ok? Sorry!
February 15th, 2003, 07:33 PM
February 15th, 2003, 11:37 PM
Ummo: thanks for the kind words. you're no slouch yourself! as far as self-crits...well....how much time do you have:p . my biggest issue with myself is that i simply don't work hard enough.
KEEP'EM COM'N FOLKS:chug:
February 16th, 2003, 04:37 PM
an Ashley Wood-esque self-portrait for today. sorry for the size :)
February 16th, 2003, 06:29 PM
here comes crap again! :p
February 16th, 2003, 11:10 PM
retro: Man, I love your style.
keyth: Fabulous handling of mass.
clay: Cute style on the last one. And by any chance, were you at Ringling this summer?
You guys are all amazing. And this seems like good practice, so here's my 10 minute contribution--hopefully I'll get the hang of it soon. ;)
Just charcoal on a scribbled marker tone. :)
February 17th, 2003, 12:41 AM
Sabrina, welcome, and yes, I was at Ringling, where you won Most Talented. How've you been doing? I love that sp, especially the toning w/ the marker. thats awesome. I gotta tip my hat for you :)
February 17th, 2003, 01:12 AM
still gotta finish this.
February 17th, 2003, 04:16 AM
good Lord - YES! Brokencow - you're rockin'
sabrina - welcome - very nice 10 minute investment. Looking forward your next.
February 17th, 2003, 04:19 AM
a quickie while stalling from going to bed.
February 17th, 2003, 05:16 AM
brokencow> that is one tripped out self port. It reminds me of an old album cover illustration from the 70's. can't remember the band or the artist sorry. But it's still cool.
February 17th, 2003, 04:56 PM
more homework for you Oblio A pile of uninspired india ink and brush ones.
February 17th, 2003, 06:52 PM
umm.. brush you say... i hope it will do.
looking forward your clean clean lines Mia. *kisses*
February 17th, 2003, 08:27 PM
Sorry this one is a bit shitty seem to have plateaued recently :/. Hopefuly that means I will improve at some point soon since it always seems to happen in bursts :). Was feeling a bit ill so this one is a bit uninspired.
February 17th, 2003, 09:43 PM
Lionel: I like the color palette you work with. What program do you use?
Oblio: Thanks for the welcome. :) And I can't get over the mouth in your last one. It teeters on the edge of too pink, and the contrast between it and the neutral, earthy colors of the face makes me enjoy the pink all the more.
miasmak: Those are nicely executed for just straight ink.
mcotie: You have a very sure, beautiful handling of your pencil--the only thing I'd suggest is not to be afraid of going heavier with it. The darker shading under the chin really starts to pop the drawing out out. Don't stop there! :)
ilex: The big-eyed style you have is interesting; it definitely lets me know what the focus is. What program is that, painter? The picture has a very cute Valentine's thing going for it.
brokencow: Mad use of perspective. I can feel the muscles straining in the face. It reminds me of a really trippy cadaver study. :D
clay: Hey! I thought I recognized you from one of your earlier sp's. What're the chances? I've been great--and it's good to see you pumpin' out the drawings. I still remember that music piece that you did for Beverage's class--man, it rocked. Not sure if I ever told you. Heh, do you still have that stellar hat you were so famous for? ;)
Man, maybe I should learn to be a little quicker when I'm replying. Then my list of people to respond to will be shorter. :ahha:
Now, mine for today. This one took about 20-25 minutes in open canvas.
February 18th, 2003, 04:15 AM
February 18th, 2003, 07:07 AM
finally time to atleast start a SP,this one is still in progress...Ive placed a large mirror infront of my desk to do this one an ya still using a mouse,in a month or so ill be a proud owner of a tablet,cant wait :).. 1 hours worth of planning on this(proportions still need to be tweeked) ,ill update it now an again..photoshop..
blackhawk,that full colour one a few pages back just knocked me of my chair(had me double taking a few times),its superb...now im your bitch and lionels..:beer:
welcome Sabrina,always good to see a new face,and a new talented hand,well done on those.
gaining confidence in those strokes Mia,keep stroking it..er um keep em comin :)
I like those last 2 r great Oblio,your certainly the busiest person here,and its paying off.
nice sketch there Mcotie,ya what Sabrina said,wouldnt hurt to darken some of yer lines a bit more,specially in the shadowed areas..
Keyth,hurry up an do a crappy drawing fer once,hope those headphones explode ;P..jk matey..
wicked stuff Brokencow,even though its in early stages its great,me likes-ah..
sorry for the l8 happy birthday Lionel..lol...just havent been around,..ha,im 23 soon,you beat me there...
nice one there ilex,dosent look like you attacked this one as much as yer others,i think ill hang this one in me room ;P..jk...
nice ummo,bloody hell,why cant i use colour like that...
clay clay clay,..what else is there to say,..except that your............cool..:p...nice SP,ya ashley woods stuff is cool,his spawn stuff especially.....
February 18th, 2003, 05:48 PM
i hate the fact that i don't have enough time for this anymore!!!!!!
i'll comment back on you guys asap.
more pink for sabrina - sorry - it didn't turn out the same :(
February 18th, 2003, 08:03 PM
Sabrina- I really like that new sp of yours, your skin tone is excellent. Thansk for the comment on my music piece, its one of my favorites. Yeah, I still have the hat, and am wearing it right now :) here's a month old sp to prove it
Rusty- insane, as usual :) That one highlight on your forehead just floors me, man. awesome
February 19th, 2003, 04:18 AM
I thought I'd take a bit of time to say hello again. It's been a while since I posted here or lurked for that matter. Even though I haven't, doesn't mean I don't love you still.
It's nice to see new faces and old faces alike. Hah, here I am talking like an old vet. I'll try to take time to put some crits for you all. I think that I will only be a valid opinion if I myself put my face up here again .
For now I don't have a scanner and digital pictures blow for reproduction purposes when you don't have a decent light. Anyhow, enough of my banter. Great job everyone .
-Spying on Iron
Oh, and another thing, thanks to the server for remembering my Birthday. It's one of the only things that did. Time to spend the first night of my manhood drunk and alone, a sad irony indeed.
February 19th, 2003, 04:31 AM
I finally had a night off to really sit down and do one of these again thoughtfully.
I'll do comments tomorrow from class, incredible job everyone.
February 19th, 2003, 07:46 AM
rusty i cant wait to see that completed
oblio i envy your dedication
February 19th, 2003, 08:59 AM
thx ummo - last night after i've done that i went to bed. But since i wasn't pleased with it i woke up and worked on it even more. I'll try to post the result tonight.
blackhawk - oh.. i can almost see a smile there! I have to get back to basics (again). I'm not pleased with my work anymore!
clayrodery - i love your last portrait. Do you remember how much time it took?
rusty - i can see the muse - your forehead is shining so nice :)
February 19th, 2003, 08:22 PM
thanls Oblio, that maybe took 30 minutes, give or take 10 minutes maybe. Then about 3 minutes to do a little tweeking in photoshop to make it look like it does in real life, since my scanner for some reason gives scans have a dull greenish tint at first, even at a high dpi.
February 20th, 2003, 04:20 AM
yes - all scanner suck at a point!
here is my netxt - back to the basics baby!
February 20th, 2003, 12:29 PM
Oblio - I haven't been pleased with my work period :D I want to take the next step with my stuff but I feel like I'm stagnating on my work at this point. It's a crappy feeling. You have been doing a refreshing new approach to yours, I'd say keep it going and see where it takes you.
Rusty - LOL, thanks man. :chug: That SP was a trip to do that night, I think I spent 7 hours on it, 3 of which I was boiling with frustration. It was exhausting doing that one. This recent SP of yours is awesome, that highlights and reflections on the forehead are stunning, they pull the focus right in to that spot. Keep them coming man, great work.
Sabrina - I didn't get a chance to say welcome and nice job. The last opencanvas one was very nicely done.
Mcotie - Nice pencil rendering, as others have said, maybe some darker areas to help the contrast and big some focus could have really benefitted this SP. Regardless, still a beautiful job man.
Miasmak - Nice job on the india inks, some came out weak in form, but others were very fluid and strong. I like these, push them further and keep them coming.
Brokencow - Awesome SP, you really pulled this one off well.
Ilex - Great SP, looks like a wound or marking on your forehead with the red mark. It's definitely well done though, it has the valentine's color to it.
Lionel - I know the feeling, I have the same problem right now, I'm starting to get into a groove and I want to break it. I hate feeling like I'm stagnating.
Clay, Ummo - Great work guys. You both did extremely strong SP's the last few days, I especially like the bust one you did Clay. Great stuff guys :chug:
Keyth - Nice work man, the Feb. 16th one where your head is coming out of the fog is one of my favs.
Retro - Keep working with it man, the Feb. 13th one was strong, there are mistakes, but your starting to get there.
Wizard, Hermchen, Jester - Great work guys, good to see your faces again. Nicely done.
I'm going to try for an SP tonight if I'm not scheduled to work. Hopefully I'm not, I need a break, great job everyone.
February 20th, 2003, 05:44 PM
hey guys - what's the slow movement those days?
here - my last quick take - i've just seen "spirited away" :D
February 20th, 2003, 07:02 PM
Oblio, those last two portrait are great, they are definately my new favorites, great use of planes and values on the first one, and the expression and gesture of the last one is classic, you are progressing so well, good job oblio:)
February 20th, 2003, 08:58 PM
I agree. That face on your last portrait rocks the house, Oblio! Very cool
well, here's my new one
February 20th, 2003, 09:15 PM
Sabrina: I use painter. I don't actually use a color pallet I just pick all the colors by hand. They all look the same As they are all painter in artifical light so I always see the same colors :/
Blackhawk: I really like you tradition stuff it is developing into something special really stick with it.
clayrodery v.03: That loooks very cool. How did you get that effect?
Oblio: You last few have been rocking looks like you have a big jump in improvement.
ummo: I really like that efect you are getting with your shapes.
Rusty: That one is cool. 23 seems old :/ I would stay 22 :). I haven't forgoten that step by step I just need to find the time :/.
Been a bit slack this week :/ Here is todays effort
February 21st, 2003, 01:02 AM
i do them every day, but that doesn't mean I post all of them :-P I probably should though... but I get embarrassed by some of them. heh.
Lionel: you're gettin friggin good..... i really like the colors on the latest one
clay: cool effect there... i like that one at the bottom of the last page. keep postin
oblio: keep it up, man. good stuff, good stuff.
and that's all that on this page now, eh
February 21st, 2003, 02:20 AM
and tonights SP
February 21st, 2003, 02:40 AM
hey yall, glad to see there are still some keeping with it, its no longer exploding at the page-a-day it was during the beginning.
blackhawk-always good to see your face, youre amazingly consistent lately, very solid portraits. that last one, it almost looks like a cg paper (like made to look like a scan) is it a scan, CG or both? by the way i finally had some sucess using my sanguine, turns out yellow/tan paper works much better with it than white.
rusty-the one of you sitting with the cig is awesome, maybe push the lghts i the shirt a bit more next time, right now they are at a point where monitor calibration could make them disappear.but great gesture and interesting handling of color.
sabrina-welcome! nice to see a new face. use of color is more interesting in the first one. not to say second is bad. could be a personal thing but i never ike to go halfway with lines. you either want them there or you dont, this one seems kinda on the fence. keep at it
miasmak-getting alot more solid and confidant, were the multiple image posts all from one day?
lionel-still going strong i see, good expression on that last one, the (our) right eye seems to be floating off a bit. try to envision the skull and where the eye sits.
Pattonart-figures i get stuck posting under YOU jk jk :p well ive already commented so what can i say, reflected light on the second one looks good (red).color is making progress. start more general, youre getting there.
heres a few more from me, my first from memory since before i started these, sharpie, A4:
tonights, an ice-god SP
February 21st, 2003, 03:48 AM
February 21st, 2003, 04:06 AM
jhibbs: yeah, you get stuck under me a lot. just wait until I come out to MICA; I'll let you be on top, baby.
haha j/k j/k
sorry about that... just had to say it. i'll put tomorrows SP in the place of this.
February 21st, 2003, 04:50 AM
uhh.. i got the bellsing!!! :fruit:
Thank you all guys! It's getting harder since i want to keep up with the middleclass too but NOT let go the SP's (like the Jester-MCM duo :D ) so it is a great boost hearing all this.
I'll get more serious than this - I promise!
Blackhawk - how about, you fake me a smile? Come on.. do an extreme expresion - tongue out or smth. You look like you need a kick in the butt - DON't MAKE ME COME OVER! :D
Jhibbs - oh. man - i love your staff! all of it!
patton - you've got all the ingredients there buddy - you just need to be more caferfull - measute a bit more, place some axys here and there - symetry - use your head! :D
Lionel - great to see you back. Still how about dome drawings. You haven't forgot about that slow moving part - have you? (super expresion there)
clay - you have a super style - yore's into advertising and stuff?
Andrew - :bow:
February 21st, 2003, 03:14 PM
i hate charcoal, drawing and my !#*§$ life
February 21st, 2003, 04:06 PM
jhibbs that ice one is amazing :o
February 21st, 2003, 07:35 PM
February 22nd, 2003, 03:57 AM
todays.... not totally happy with it, but i'm making progress, i think.
oh yeah, this was going to be a fire god, to go along with Trevorr's ice god (they're going to be for our website.. fire and ice there, ya see... nifty, eh)
February 22nd, 2003, 07:25 AM
waah you guys are crazy. You all improved 200 % since i was here last time !!
February 22nd, 2003, 11:52 AM
mhhh long time i didnt do any SP
you guys are really impressive, really improving !
blackhawk : the "traditionnal" portrait you did recently (red chalk ?) is awesome !!
here is something i did today
i'll try to do some other SP soon
February 22nd, 2003, 08:50 PM
jhibbs that ice god is sweet! And i really like the shape and feel of the graphite SP.
Patton your latest is the best yet! Its clear that this practice is paying off for you! :chug:
Kaini looks quite professional, what medium is that?
Mime stunning :eek: pleaze post more :D
February 22nd, 2003, 09:05 PM
I've posted this portrait as a new tread under guest self portrait gallery but i wanted to post here too...everyone is here thoug....here it goes...
February 22nd, 2003, 10:00 PM
talk some other time.. ok?
impresive stuff guys/girls! :drool: :zzz:
February 22nd, 2003, 10:03 PM
February 23rd, 2003, 01:21 AM
I haven't done one in awhile.
Blackhawk, keith, good stuff guys. I'm still learning painter, so maybe one day i'll catch up with you guys!
February 23rd, 2003, 03:31 AM
heres tonights, first time intentionally (as opposed to out of neccesity while at home) doing black and white for awhile, at the suggstion of a friend:
February 23rd, 2003, 04:34 AM
i tried to approach this differently than i usually do and start dark to light. this portrait scares me. there are so many things wrong with it...but i still like it.
i need to go eat dinner. comments later. keep up the awesome work!
February 23rd, 2003, 05:30 AM
Oblio - I wish I could fake a smile, there's just not much for me at smile at these days. I will try for a smile in one of these, as soon as I get past this wall I smacked into. That vampire one is great, your kicking ass and taking names man. I wish I was more helpful with my critiques, when I feel less confident I find it hard to critique, I apologize.
Retro - You have nothing to hate man, the eyes look pasted on, but that hair is great. I'm in the same boat with you man, just keep pluggin away.
Patton - Great work man, keep working at it, be mindful of using soft and hard edges on the strokes of color and value.
Kaini - Badass man, I want to dive into oils, but it's scaring the shit out of me, I'm going to be brave and start though.
Mime - Thanks, very sweet portrait, looks like a mask. Nose and mouth shape seem a little weird, but other than that, welcome back :D
Atmospheria - Impressive, welcome to the thread. The top SP is solid.
Ummo - LOL, you look crazy man, great expression. The strokes are starting to come together, the form is a lot more solid in this one. Colors to my eye look a little washed out though. I'm not an expert though, so take it with a grain of salt :D
Brokencow - ROFL, you don't have much to catch up to when it comes to me then. I've only been using this program for 4 or 5 months, I'm still learning new things with it everyday. Great SP man, looks like a monkey meld.
Jhibbs - Yeah, that one you were mentioning is digital, I haven't done any traditional SP's lately on account of my scanner crapping out big time. I'll have to try it on toned paper. I was looking to grab some dark conte like Kevin Chen uses, it looks like it'd be something that would work for me. Great batch of SP's bud, the oil one and the last one with the white lines, great job.
Ilex - Looks like you chopped your face into sections. Very funky, looks like the way I feel right now.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
February 23rd, 2003, 10:12 PM
Hello. I have been impressed for a long time by the work coming out of this site so I thought I would throw my hat into the ring.
February 24th, 2003, 01:05 AM
Just wanted to say hello and that I'm looking forward to drawing/painting with you all.
February 24th, 2003, 02:43 AM
well...not the best SP in the ol'SPOD folder but...tis one nonetheless. oh well, on to the next!
February 24th, 2003, 04:18 AM
quickly coloured up pencil sketch i did on the bus today..insomniac Rusty :)...Gorillaz inspired,one of my fave bands...
ill comment when i finish the colour SP i just started a page back,awesome stuff all.
February 24th, 2003, 04:39 AM
brokencow thats a funny one
Blackhawk you're still looking beat, no sleep yet?
ilex aren't dark to light protraits tricky? for some reason i never do well with them ...then there's keyth on the other hand :p
Faxtar thats a really cool look you've achieved there. welcome and post more :)
TNK welcome to you too. looks good, more :D
hey rusty i love the Gorillaz artwork! sweet! r u stil working on that color SP you showed a few days ago??
February 24th, 2003, 05:21 AM
I think I posted here many months ago. Here's another one:D
Wizard of KOZ
February 24th, 2003, 07:12 AM
Here is another one...done from a pic.....
February 24th, 2003, 12:29 PM
February 24th, 2003, 09:19 PM
sheepchase thats fun! :D
Koz great colors and very dramaitc :chug:
keyth great as usual. I must say your brushwork is amazing, i typically spend a few minutes staring at your stuff
this failure of an SP bears little if no resemblance to me, anyways:
February 25th, 2003, 01:15 AM
thanks a lot ummo. to be honest...i've had so much on my mind lately that i really haven't liked any of my latest. i'll try harder on the next one for sure.
i'm the same way when it comes to resemblance. none of my ports really look much like me.
this is what i really look like.
February 25th, 2003, 01:34 AM
thats rough man you got screwed...
just gotta deal with the cards life gave you i guess.
February 25th, 2003, 03:57 AM
ummo thanks for the welcome:), cool to see the variation in the style you're using, I find the hair in your latest interesting because of the sense of volume achieved
blackhawk, your latest is wonderful, I enjoyed examining how such small differences in color can provide so much information.
atmospheria, that's such a great sp, seems to have just the right amount of work in it to define your features and structure without relying on contrast between highlight and shadows.
February 25th, 2003, 01:09 PM
oh.. i need to be excused!
i'm late on posting.
just comments for now:
TNK - welcome. I think that a little order in your strokes will definitely help.
keyth - o no.. the moment of truth. beware - i might fnally show a real me :evilbat:
ummo - you've been rocking the last days. great color and all.
koz - :eek: umm.. are you ok now? :D i can't look too much at your sp - scares me!
sheepcase - you should post more often - mind the proportions!
rusty - cool (t-shirt :p)
faxtar - wow - impresive work - everything seems off but your line work is so strong it just makes me dizzy :bow:
blackhawk - youinspire me, my friend! keep at it!
February 25th, 2003, 01:15 PM
c&c welcome, thanks.
February 25th, 2003, 07:56 PM
ub... bb... mmm
February 25th, 2003, 08:32 PM
Just trying to work on my proportions in this one.
February 25th, 2003, 08:32 PM
from my sketchbook, back to the basics:
pencil, white charcole pencil, white-out
February 25th, 2003, 08:48 PM
jhibbs: Thanks for the crits on my proprtions if is really a problem area for me. I need to put in some serious practice
Oblio: I have been doing lots of drawings I have just been painting over them :). They are improvng very very very ... slowly :/
Sorry for the lack of comments but I realy must get to bed laters all
I spent a long time on my drawing with this one and as usual I found it next to impossible to draw with the wacom :/ not that my real life drawing is that good :/. I quickly colored it in to hide my embarisment.
February 26th, 2003, 12:51 AM
why does making art have to be so frustrating sometimes?
February 26th, 2003, 03:05 AM
Sorry I missed the last couple of days. I've been working my ass off to make some school money and I needed to clear my head as well. I have a thousand things going on in my life and only 24 hours to do them unfortunately.
I will comment tomorrow morning. Right now I need to get some sleep, I feel something coming over me.
February 26th, 2003, 03:28 AM
Here's the end result of the portrait I posted yesterday...it might as well be a completely different pic with how it turned out. At least the resemblance is better:D
February 26th, 2003, 03:40 AM
hi oblio, I spent a little more time on today's to keep my strokes under control.
I have trouble switching from loose strokes while laying everything out and then into finer "fleshing out" strokes.
Also, I find that my value range keeps increasing as I progress through the drawing which results in an inconsistent feel. I guess I have to establish my darkest and lightest values first and stay within throughout?
faxtar, your strokes are so fine and even; when you lay everything out, are you using really light lines or do you erase as you work? I can't see any signs of how you lay your features out. Hah, especially since I just read that you use a pen :)... so how do you do that?
good night all,
February 26th, 2003, 09:07 AM
February 26th, 2003, 02:13 PM
Well I knew I wouldnt keep up...
Here are my latest couple
4 in one night...
Both are done in charcol... (cant find my damn stylus!)
February 26th, 2003, 03:28 PM
clayrodery v.03: Thats different, the white-out makes you look plastic though.
Lionel: Thats a very nice eye, it seems much tighter than the rest of the painting.
keyth: Looks like a good start, hang in there.
sheepchase:Thats a very interesting style of painting. I would like to see more.
TNK: Not sure i understand your question. But for the one i did in pen, i started out using a pencil untill it looked good then inked it, and then I erased my pencil lines. Does that help? For pencil, i start out light and then i graduate to darker pencils, 4B ect. Then i use a kneaded eraser to pull up highlights.
retro:I think the eyes are the best because they are darker.
AjaxSerix: I like the expresion on the top right one.
February 26th, 2003, 05:19 PM
look into my eyes...
February 26th, 2003, 08:26 PM
keyth: What I want to know is why is it that the better you get the harder it gets :/. Seems like the more you know the more you see yourself getting wrong :/
Blackhawk: Thouse colors are really strong the give that piece a lot of life
TNK: Looks good you have the shapes of all the features right :)
retro: Awesome drawing yet you look so sad :/
AjaxSerix: Thouse look good try spending some more time lining up the features
Faxtar: Yea did the whole painting in a rush got that shape of the head wrong too. Drawing can be so frustating :/
Oblio: Why is it I can never see you stuff when I hit the rely button? I can see it fine when viewing the thread normally. It is a pain when I can see you stuff while writing coments
Bah another not so good one prehaps if I got a little more sleep it would help ;)
February 26th, 2003, 08:47 PM
Lionel i meant to say earlier but the portait you posted before this one is great! the sense of light, especially in your left eye, is amazing glowing in fact!
good job :chug:
February 27th, 2003, 12:10 AM
i've been out of the loop for a while, my life is all over the place right now and i'm tryin to get myself together. i felt like i needed to do one of these tonight, so here it is...
everyones stuff looks fantastic, i've seen so much improvement here! keep up the good work everyone
February 27th, 2003, 01:03 PM
Oblio made me feel guilty for not posting in here so much anymore...you can find the thread "middle class" where I am posting the most...doing studies and stuff...still lifes, etc... So here is my quick 20 minute attempt...hehe...yes...the goatee (spelling?) is gone for a little while till it grows back.
http://www.mindcandyfilms.com/jons_uploads/grayscale self portrait.jpg
February 27th, 2003, 01:37 PM
man charcoal is a difficult medium (at least for those who dont know how to shade)
zippzopp: welcome back. stay for a while and enjoy our free beer and peanuts
lionel: i like the rings under your eyes, i always fail to draw them.
mcm: whoa, that one's looking nice. seems your wacom likes you a lot :D
blackhawk: your latest painter spods are amazing, hope you won't join the 'dark side' for too long. i always liked your traditional attempts best.
keyth: the word 'sometimes' seems wrong in my world :p
i always love to view these pages, thanks to all you selfportraiteers
February 27th, 2003, 04:30 PM
I'm sick as a dog right now. This is exactly what my head feels like, I hate it, hate it, hate it.
Oblio - Thanks. You inspire me with your work ethic, don't slack off like me :)
TNK - Thanks. Nice pencilwork you have going on here. Be careful of form and feature placement, be very mindful of where everything is going down. The best way I found to achieve this is to stay VERY loose before you get heavy into the sketch. Don't get too accurate too early, get a feel for the mass, then start getting tighter with your control. If this sounds like rambling, I apologize, I'm sneezing every 1.2 seconds right now :D
Retro - I haven't done a traditional SP in a long time. LOL. My scanner is acting really funky, sometimes it scans, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it scans really, really dark, so I said screw it and stopped trying to deal with it. Great looking SP, when are you going to try for another painted one again? :D
Ummo - Sleep? Sleep? What's this sleep you speak of? I swear, this is probably why I've been nailed so hard is because of the lack of sleep that I get. I average about 4-5 hours a night if I'm lucky, I shouldn't be surprised. Great SP's, proportions need work, but your getting better control and more confidence, I'm beginning to see it. Keep plugging away.
Lionel - Thanks. That SP you did acouple days ago is strong, Those eyes rock on it. Mouth looks funky on this recent one, but all in all it still is great. Nice job bud.
Keyth - If it wasn't frustrating, it wouldn't be worth doing. SP's do get harder as you go on, that's something I found out. It gets more frustrating as well, it doesn't get easier, it just gets harder and harder and harder. I guess it's something we have to deal with. Keep working at it bud.
MindCandy, ZippZopp - There's two familiar faces I'm glad to see again, welcome back guys. Keep on posting... please. :)
Faxtar - Thanks, this is definitely one of the trippier SP's that I've seen. Nice job.
Sheepchase - Ahhh, a fellow Mesan, nice SP. head proportions seem weird, it might be the mouth, but overall pretty well done.
Ajax, Clay, Faxtar - Keep them cranking guys, good work.
I know my critiques sucked, but I want nothing more than to go pass out right now. Later everyone.
February 27th, 2003, 04:31 PM
dude hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah That is hilarious :rofl:
sorry you're sick though :mad:
February 27th, 2003, 11:15 PM
here's a new one, digitally altered ink drawing, or rather...
February 28th, 2003, 12:48 AM
alright, so maybe i'm getting back into the flow of it, we'll see
blackhawk: sorry to see you're sick man, that sucks, its good to see you still goin strong in here! good work buddy
clay: pretty neat looking, i like it
retro: i've said it a milllion times, i love your style!
MCM: good to see another by you. you keep improving! i think taking a break from these has actually helped me...i could be wrong though, and it looks like this is one of your better ones, maybe taking a break is good!
Lionel: they're looking good, i really like the glow of your right eye in the one you posted a few days ago, nice job
wow, tons of new faces in here, i gotta go through and catch up on all of them, i'll be back, hopefully, with more portraits and comments!
February 28th, 2003, 02:18 AM
Carbon pencil, white charcoal, strathmore colored paper
Blackhawk - Sorry you're feeling sick. I'm sick too with the flu. Funny, my girlfriend and I just got done discussing that my lack of sleep (4~5hrs/night) probably is the number one cause of me getting sick 3 times in February. This month has really made me realize how much depends upon health... duh! Hope you feel better. Was there really snot running down from your nose like that? LOL. Took some extra time to feel out the mass for today's spod, I feel more confident.
Faxtar - Thanks for sharing how you work. I've been using an F and 4B only, maybe I'll get some more pencils this weekend to increase my range. And I also have to get a kneaded eraser. What kind of pen do you use?
Lionel - Thanks. You mentioned above that you draw and then paint over your drawings; can you show us some before-and-after painting of your sp's? Make sure you rest man, your body slowly pays the price every night you push yourself.
clayrodery - boom! powerful impact, I dig the style.
February 28th, 2003, 03:28 AM
ZippZopp and MCM have returned! Huzzah huzzah! I enjoyed both of you guys' SPs back way back in the day ..ok maybe 2 months ago. strong reappearances especially that latest one zippzopp very nice!
Ajax your lastest set of self portraits are a massive improvement! well done! youve achieved a greater sense of form with your use of light and shadow. keep doing what youre doing man! :chug:
Lionel i am basing this on your file-naming conventions but are you almost at 100 SPs?
Oblio youve got some fun expresions of late! but yea, Lionel said it... its hard not seeing you SPs on the reply page.
Hey Blackhawk you should get some cream for those! :D hope you get better tho. Great portrait i realy enjoy the red noses that you do.
Clayrodery i like your previous SP, the charcoal one, but i have to agree with what others said that the whiteout highlights are a little strong. Makes you look metallic
TNK that last one is sweet. Nice proportions and great tonal control
February 28th, 2003, 03:47 AM
This is what 3 hours of slep does to your eyes..:).In this caricature i initially used a mirror to get the likeness right,then broke each part down into solid shapes,created my own lighting on it(burne hogarth styles)..bout 15 mins,pencil,smooth grain printing paper..
Ill get back onto photoshop stuff when my tablet comes,cant wait...
nice to see both of ya`s zipp zopp and MCM,nice job on them,zipp,that last one is fab.
great one TNK,thats something ive been meaning to do,using toned paper...i like how youve sparingly used the white on that piece..
awesome clay,that last one.great pose to :)
he he,ive just got the beginnings of a flu now blackhawk,im sure by tomorow ill look like that..that painted one a page back had me pulling my hair out,me needs to learn how to paint skin tones like that..
ummo you shouldve added a butcher knife on that crazy one you did a page back..lol..you can use mine..:)
still very well painted lionel,cant see any thing wrong with em,thats why i hate you.;P
keyth,ya,i get frustrated to when a SP just dosent want to work.but its bloody marvilous when all works out.
faxtar,that one you lightly mixed green into is my fave of yers,nice to see someone tackling tricky perspective.
Oblio,ha,your expression drawings r coming along great,
maybe try some with a bit more of yer body(head to waist )arm/hand gestures will really add to the expressions your doing..
ajax,that first one i like the most cause everything on it seems to work,a hint of white chalk on the nose or forehead would really lift that sucker of the page..
Retro,ya charcoals tricky to work with,best used when worked with heavily rather that lightly ,using a prepared charcoal ground then using a eraser for highists favours me,but then everyones diff..
February 28th, 2003, 06:35 AM
blackhawk: lol, hope you get well soon my friend.
February 28th, 2003, 11:15 PM
retro: great one!
rusty: really cool portrait, i like the style of it, and those little studies there are great...you've got great control over your line weights.
ummo: thanks for the warm welcome back! the thing i like about this one of yours is your use of colors. i've still not gotten bold enough to put lots of compliments in mine...you've done a great job with what i'm striving for!
tnk: great portrait. the only crit is that your right eyeball looks like its looking too far to the right.... other than that you've done a great job with the subtle highlights. good work
March 1st, 2003, 05:49 PM
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