saints and sinners

[John M. Davis]

Still trying to get the hang of Painter. Please give me your critique.
http://www.jmddesign.com/sin%20girl.jpg

[wallychairmover]

i like where this is going, very "cheeky" . because of the closeup of this piece i think you can put some actual material into the socks, make the weave more visible. i like that you made them a little semi-transparent with those flesh tones in there, but the skin tone on the viewers left sock should be cut off so abruptly on the shin side. with these shapes (legs) you want to treat it like a highlite, because the socks will be stretched out more on the larger areas of the legs showing more skin through the weave. the tails needs to be re-oriented under the skirt because right now it looks like it's coming from her crotch:) and also give the bottom of the tail some reflected lighting to really round out the form, especially around the socks where that white would definitely bounce up into the shiney leathery tail. i think the chain on the cross needs to be more straight up and down instead of angled so it looks more like it's dangling. and the cross really only needs one of those little hot spot highlites on it if any. probably wouldn't hurt to trim down the cross width as well, more dainty makes fore sexier image. thats a big ol gang banger cross. i think the tip of the tail could use a little more light on it, and then reflect it into those polished black shoes. that would be sweet. there should be a more defined highilite on the heel, see how in the toe it's all crisp but the heel it's kinda milky, make that crisp too. look up some images of leather or like material to get the gradient right on that. the kneecaps, specifically the one on viewer's left is way too heavily shadowed, give it a subtle shadow cause girls have cute knees. and the whole depth of the image would be helped alot by a drop shadow under the skirt wrapping over the legs. soften up the sharp line between shadow and highlite on the skirt to make it feel more fabric like. the background leg seems to be a little thicker than the foreground leg, also you might want to show the toe of the background shoe because i think we might see a little of that behind the foreground. and the heel of that shoe is a bit long and skinny compared to the other one. the cigarette doesn't need such black shadows. and FINALLY the heel on the background foot is a little too round compared to the other one, you should add a little gradiant shadow from on the socs where they meet the shoes (from the shoes up into the socks)...aaaaannnnnd the tongue on the foreground shoe needs to be a little more out on the left, it looks like it's cutting into her foot. ..that's all:) hope that helped. again i like where it's goin for sure or i wouldn't have written all of this!


...p.s. i just hit your site and your comic work is great. some of those were damn funny..good artwork too!

[John M. Davis]

I do tend to hurry through stuff with out thinking it all through. Or taking the time to find photos to draw from. I really appreciate your comments and will use them to make this better. :^^:

[wallychairmover]

sweetness.. look forward to seeing the touched up version:) sorry if that was really long but i want to make sure nothing gets lost by providing crits via online text.