dawn of the dead is awesome!

[MuffinMan]

dude...dawn of the dead has the best special effects i've ever seen!
the blood comes off so realistically when you shoot teh zombies.
some of them were losing limbs and actually looked like they had no limbs!
veins and bones showing! magnificent! this movie just has the best looking gore effects ever seen in a movie! this kinda makes me want to creat my own gory zombie movies... :^^:

[Floris Didden]

The original is better.

Zombies don't run. They come limping in with millions and don't ever.. ever stop.

[eliWolff]

I agree! The original Dawn of the Dead is way better. Zombies are re-animated dead people. Dead people are full of rigamortis, so their joints are really stiff.. thus zombies should move really slowly. (ok -- I am a big zombie geek :dead: ).

[Sammy]

Fresh running zombie mobs are infinately more frightening.

This new DawnOfTheDead tramples Romero's attemts in every respect... Don't let purist-nostalgia cloud your judgement of how amazing the new installment is (I had a hard time with this as well...)

I personally can't wait for the next 2 follow-ups ... This new generation of zombie movies (28days, DOD) fuckin' rocks!

[Nimrod]

I kind of liked the movies logic however... newly dead zombies don't have rigor mortis, like the main girl's husband at the beginning. After all the zombies have been dead a few days, they shuffle like normally. I enjoyed the new movie as a standalone endeavor... certainly the original is a more enduring classic, but I personally don't even bother connecting the two.

[MuffinMan]

yeah, zombies are much more frightening when they are running.
you see... slow, lazy, helpless, zombies are easy and boring.
fast zombies are much more challenging and scary. :rendered:

[mos667]

I personally didn't much like the fast paced zombies from Dawn of the Dead and 28 Days Later. Still, Dawn of the Dead was an excellent horror movie :)

Slow zombies rule.

By the way, if you are a true Zombie fan (you walk down the street and see buildings that would be good for fending zombies off!), the Official Zombie Survival guide is an excellent book. It is written with a serious tone, talking of "true" events of the zombification virus spreading. Really a great read. Also, the reason they give for the zombie slowness is the lack of dexterity in the brain, as when the virus kills it and takes over, it only takes over primitive instincts and animates the body only with the most basic of functions.

[bRyaN]

Fresh running zombie mobs are infinately more frightening.

This new DawnOfTheDead tramples Romero's attemts in every respect... Don't let purist-nostalgia cloud your judgement of how amazing the new installment is (I had a hard time with this as well...)

I personally can't wait for the next 2 follow-ups ... This new generation of zombie movies (28days, DOD) fuckin' rocks!

I'm glad someone said this...when i first the original it was scary...but now its kinda silly...(a show of the times)
The new faster, far more lethal zombies are fuckin creepy as hell...

[Sammy]

Take mos667's suggestion, the "Zombie Survival Guide" is an awesome read!

It's great how it convinces you (through actual 'science'/'researcy') that a bicycle is the greatest mode of transportation... it makes sense when you're reading it :wink:

My old appartment in Georgia was AMAZINGLY zombie-proof... On the second level, barely any windows with a blockable courtyard between and many many roof exits ... also had metal beams on windows and doors.
My new appartment here in chicago doesn't come close... completely on the ground level with windows in every room >:|
... I'm so fucked...

Oh...and I'm a huge Romero Fan (Knight Riders, and Creepshow are my favs) ... he created the zombie genre, but genre's evolve... and today zombie movies are amazing.

[mos667]

Don't forget Sammy, what can keep things OUT can also keep you IN. So in case of natural disaster or zombie infestation, you would've been zombie food :)

[saraesc]

holy shit
i just saw the new dawn of the dead - now with faster zombies. and it was flippin awesome. let me just say that the intro was amazing and the ending credits was perfect.
has anyone seen shaun of the dead?

[Floris Didden]

If you want to make fast zombies, don't call em zombies. Do it like 28 days later.
True, watching the original now makes it look bad (zombies in all flavours! blue, red, green! you name it), but the idea itself of slow moving dead people is still way cool. One zombie is nothing, it's slow, weak, stupid. But the frightening thing is there are thousands upon thousands of those freaks and they just keep comming. You just can't kill enough of them.

Slow zombies = brooding tension buildup
Fast zombies = 'oh fuck it's comming right at us'-shock moments.

[Yoell]

dawn is great, and yes zombies can run.

alive one seconds, then dead the next, in that seconds all your muscles arent going to go limp. more like a rabid dog.

now if your damaged or rotting, then yea you drag and limp.

best zombie movie ever.

I love the original, but its apples and oranges.

the only thing i was disappointed in, one itsy bitsy thing, was the zombie baby. other than that the sounds track, effects, and the characters. the characters were great. the main security guard was the shit.

one of my top 5 movies of 04

Drew

[MuffinMan]

good thing to say.
indeed this is the best zombie movie i've ever seen.

i still liked the EVIL DEAD trilogy better, that is so funny and a little scary.
ash is so cool in the second and third movie. he still is wimpy sometimes, but that is what makes the movie funny. bruce campbell in my opinion should show up in more movies. he's a great actor. are there any other movies he's in?
yeah, so i really like evil dead 1, 2 and army of darkness. all a great joy to watch.:)

[nil]

are there any other movies he's in?


two words: bubba hotep

[Sammy]

There's rumor's goin' 'round that Sam Ramie's gonna do a "Jason vs. Freddie vs. Ash" ....... :ar: :aa: :aw: :ak: :a!: :a!:

[MuffinMan]

no way!
you've gotta be kidding me!
freddy vs. jason vs. ash?

[nil]

oh god. sounds like sam raimi is getting almost as bad as george lucas. hopefully bruce campbell would/will decline.

[mos667]

Nil - what would be even more George Lucas-esque is if Ash was all cgi...

[nil]

heh, yeah, or of they made another movie and couldnt get bruce, so they got a new actor, and replaced bruce with the new actor in the three original movies...oh god, i hope im not giving sam raimi any ideas... :x

[Yoell]

yea heard about the evildead/13th/freddie crossover.

great idea I hope they do it. the bigest cheese horror flicks of the 80s and 90s, it would be epic.

i hope they do it, or ARE doing it.

Drew

[jwo]

hyper zombies don't count as real zombies.
there will never be any evil dead crossover...Sam Raimi is too smart for that to happen.
real upcoming zombie movies can be found
here
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418819/ Land of the Dead
here
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391076/ Diamond Dead
here
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411805/ Return of the Living Dead 4: Necropolis
&
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411806/ Return of the Living Dead 5: Rave from the Grave

if any of these movies have hyper zombies
i stand corrected

[MuffinMan]

ooohhh, gotta rent these. :rendered:

[Sammy]

What are you guys talking about?

A "Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash" would fuckin' kick ass!

I trust that Sam and Bruce would make it funny and gorry as hell ... it's not like any of the Freddies or Jasons have been serious legacies.

Sam Ramie is the king of cheese/toung&cheeck that's why the spiderman's kicked so much ass.

[MuffinMan]

indeed, i've just put bubba hotep on my que for rental on NETFLIX.

[MuffinMan]

iw atch bubba hotep, and it was pretty stupid, two old dudes who are mentally insane go up against some buttmunching mummy.

[0kelvin]

two old dudes who are mentally insane go up against some buttmunching mummy.

EXACTLY! How can you not see the absolute genius in that?

As cool as the new Dawn of the Dead was, Shaun of the Dead gets my vote for zombie movie of the year.



0kelvin

[Upstart]

Shuan of the Dead was a lot of fun, nothing like a Zombie beatdown that ryhthmicly syncs to an annoying bar jukebox.

I heard that Sam Rami liked the crossover idea, but he is to busy with Spider-man to work on the movie, and he would want pretty much full control over what happens to Ash.

I thought fast zombies made sense, if they are fresh and can't feel pain then they could run and hunt until their muscles tore away, hence slow zombies. But I dig the hoards of slow zombies too, I like what Romero was saying with his flicks.

[MuffinMan]

but like in 28 days later, they weren't zombies...they were infected crazy cannablistic people, NOT zombies. i don't know if bruce would want to do a freddy vs. jason vs. ash movie. becuase he's getting kinda "old"

[Nudnik]

Haha, nice. According to IMDB, Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright have cameos in Romero's new movie.

[Rkhon]

Zombie nerds to the max.

Lets roll a d20 to settle this debate.

[oracrest]

Zombie nerds to the max.

Lets roll a d20 to settle this debate.

this reply bears a + 4 vs. zombies

[oracrest]

Yeah, I thought they did a good job with the new Dawn of the Dead, but 28 days Later remains my personal favorite zomibe movie in spades. Moslty because they seemed to really attempt to capture how a normal person would break down mentally when faced with such a horrible situation. I find the fear and anxiety of the survivors much more interesting than the dead person hobbling/ sprinting after you.

Like when CJ was on the verge of being eaten alive in DOD, and shoots the gas canister, killing himself in the process, but manages to mutter "fuckin figures.." right before in a sarcastic tone. that kind of thing really brings me out of the experience. Screaming is also a much overused trick in horror movies (IMO). the human mind thinks to scream up to a certain point, but when horrified past that point, does not. I think a lot of the scenes in the new DOD would have been much more effective if the people didn't scream in the midst of the carnage, like just pure survival instinct kicking in.

28 days has managed to capture that "human" element best so far.

[Prometheus|ANJ]

Running zombies != Zombies.

It looked like a bunch of running extras with makups and it tossed me out of the 'suspension of belief' thing.

Also, if zombie infest you with a bite, thick clothes or improvised biteproof armour would make you invulnerable.


Real zombies are:
- Rotten, missing limbs, anorexic
- Various hues, but mostly greens and browns
- sparsely clothed, if at all
- Slow, limping and moaning
- Retarded
- Hungry for flesh
- Not contagious, but resurrected, possibly animated (golems).
- Plenty
- Cheap troops
- Unable to climb or use items
- ...Except soldier zombies that can use cleavers and bits of armour that were fitted on them.

[MuffinMan]

your referring to D&D, this is the movies.

[Gaither]

How about Day of the Dead #2
and
Land of the Dead


Fresh running zombie mobs are infinately more frightening.

This new DawnOfTheDead tramples Romero's attemts in every respect... Don't let purist-nostalgia cloud your judgement of how amazing the new installment is (I had a hard time with this as well...)

I personally can't wait for the next 2 follow-ups ... This new generation of zombie movies (28days, DOD) fuckin' rocks!

[Sammy]

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Yea, I think those are the names now, I've heard that the script for Land of the Dead is a bit weak (not surprised)...

I think I really enjoy Running/Modern zombies, because you accept that they aren't actually dead - that it is some virus, biohazard, disease, and such.

You don't see skeletons running arround anymore ... like in the Return of the Living Dead 80's version where there was a damn skeleton walking about WTF?!

All the 'zombies' were so fresh in Day of the Dead it really seemed as if they weren't actually dead, but some other from of biohazard.

[Scratch N' Brain]

would 28 days later really be considered a "walking dead" movie?

[Prometheus|ANJ]

Here's (http://itchstudios.com/psg/junk/realzombie2.jpg) a quickie of how I think a real zombie should look. Yes it's a rpg zombie but for me that's the only kind there is. The movies used actors cuz it was too expensive or not possible to show rotten zombies. It's sort of like when scifi movies use humans and say they're aliens, except they look like humans... yeah, right. Very exotic to look at... not.

There's no way a zombie would work IRL so its only cheesy when they try to put 'midichlorian' logic behind it.

I want another skeleton fight like in "the 7th voyage of Sinbad". There's so few undead movies with skeleton and zombie armies.

[Sammy]

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Yea, that seems very RPG or Voodo zombie, nicely done.

There isn't a thin line anymore, it's eaither walking dead (rotten, skeleton, supernatural, etc.)

or ... it's assumed biohazard/fresh (rage virus, transmitable disease, science, etc.) ... which by today's standards, I guess aren't zombies .... It just helps to maintain the traditional "All who are human can turn, and there's a lot of 'em"

I'm game for either ... I personally can't wait to see if there are any skeletons in the new "Jason and the Argonauts" .... and if I hear correctly they're doin' another "Sinbad voyage"

[MuffinMan]

Here's (http://itchstudios.com/psg/junk/realzombie2.jpg) a quickie of how I think a real zombie should look. Yes it's a rpg zombie but for me that's the only kind there is. The movies used actors cuz it was too expensive or not possible to show rotten zombies. It's sort of like when scifi movies use humans and say they're aliens, except they look like humans... yeah, right. Very exotic to look at... not.

There's no way a zombie would work IRL so its only cheesy when they try to put 'midichlorian' logic behind it.

I want another skeleton fight like in "the 7th voyage of Sinbad". There's so few undead movies with skeleton and zombie armies.

the movie "army of darkness" is what your looking for.