I Need Help!! From A Pro!!!

[Warhead82]

k guys, im stuck, i dont know what to do to finish this, like to blend the, the trees and stuff together, how do you blend trees? And maybe if there is something else you want to say go for it!! HELP THO!!!


If i resize this image to a bigger version you can see all the brush strokes, i dont want that.

Here is a crappy small photobucket picture, cause for some gay reason photobucket resizes now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Warhead82/Justins%20Digital%20Art/waterfallarea6jpeg.jpg

And a larger version at DA:

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11439581/

thanks

Justin.

[sandrue]

well, i'm not a pro, not at all
but i can make a suggestion or two, if you're willing to accept :^^: ;

i think the water needs more work, like foaming around the rocks, a bit more highlights, and more transparency (it's a hard thing to achieve transparency effect on the running water tho;))

the trees look fine i.m.o. though a bit ambient effects like some mist here and beams of sunlight there may improve the athmosphere of the overall of the pic.

waiting for updates, don't keep us waiting;)

[EmpyreanVision]

A professionals help: Here we go!

The first thing I noticed was some composition errors. The light line along the top of the painting draws my eye instantly away from the subject. Also letting the water "flow" out of the lower left corner isn't advisable either. Try not to have lines exit the frame of the painting at a corner. This tends to loose the viewer.

The main concern was lack of depth. The trees all seem equally lit. Especially on a hillside that would put some treas lower they need to be shaded darker overall. This will give great variation to this painting. I also did the same for the waterfall Lighter on top - darker on the vertical - lighter on the bottom. I also added smoother dark spots to the water and som branches hanging over the water in places to break up the shape.

Asside from value cahnges and slight variations little was changed from the origional. I hope that I could help.
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/Tropical_2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/Tropical_1.jpg

[Warhead82]

Thanks man that really did help - but, i really need to know how to render these trees because, when i make this painting bigger, it looks like crap???

[EmpyreanVision]

Well to start, What medium are you using? Oils, digital it's a bit hard to tell. We'll go from there.

[Warhead82]

Oh sorry - i am using digital media for this (adobe photoshop cs) airbrush.

[EmpyreanVision]

Sorry for the delay.

It's all in the brush pallet! For trees I use a spatter brush with these settings:
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/brush1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/brush2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/brush3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/brush4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/stinkyweasel76/brush5.jpg
Stroke down with a light foreground color and a dark background color, Overlap strokes and you'll get results similar to above. Change colors for variating in species of tree. Almost no forest is all the same tree throughout. As you get closer to the foreground make the brush size larger. You might even sample a leaf shape and use that as a brush. I advocate experimentation! On a seperate layer you won't ruim what youve done. Digital is the most forgiving medium.