Random Doodle w/ BG

[TechnoBabble042]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/asutefalcon/PagisDocument72small.jpg

Okay, both of the peoples were done with refs, just the female looks a bit off, I know. Anyways, I figured I'd submit this to the helpful eyes and brains here, and see what you people can suggest that I do better.

[Hamsta]

Having trouble with faces? there are many mistakes: the tree is all wrong the trunk should be more of a cylinder or slightly tapering, not bulging in and out, ditto on the branches. The guys hat is longer on his right, and his right leg sort of disappears behind his left, the foot does'nt look right either. The womens left hand looks too short, I don't like the folds of her dress (especially the bottom) I'd make it rounder. Her breasts are too high.
Don't get too discourged, huh? this reminds of my old stuff, before I started copying comic book covers off the computer display :wink:

[emily g]

Good, I'm glad you're using refs to try to get things right.
Think about getting refs to help you with the backgrounds, too.
The tree could use some help and the ground they are sitting on seems rather undefined and a little lumpy.
I like the composition in general. Keep at it!

emily

[TechnoBabble042]

Hamsta: No, I'm not having much trouble with the faces, I just didn't feel like drawing the guy's face, and the ref for the girl had her face hidden by her hair as well.

Emily: Thanks! I found a decent program that has 3d characters in premade poses, so I'm just using that when I can't find ref pictures - very helpful to have it, but it's not quite as good a poser. I've always had a bit of trouble with trees - but it's much better than where I started from! =P I guess I should try to find some refs for the next time I try to do a background. I never thought of that before, so thanks for the suggestion.

[Red_Rook]

your such a liar mate, ofcourse your having trouble with the faces which is why you didnt draw them, mine suck but i force myself to do em, thats the only way youl get better. Its one of the most important body parts, in a couple of simple lines you can convey all sorts of emotion, is the chracter a whiney little girl or a hardass rambo guy?
An age old axiom that is quoted again and again is draw what you see not what you think you see. Now unless your ref characters have some really funky anatomy, your way off, the guy in the hat, has is arm way too long for instance. Instead of just copying refs get an anatomy book and learn how the body works, learn the skeletal structure the muscle strcuture etc.
Then do the same for drapery look at your curtains, you pant leg a dress etc, see how they hang, move and flow. If you go to the tutorials forum I believe there are some good ones on drapery.
Everything looks quite rushed and to be honest there is really not a legitamet excuse to have your entire pic only lines and no values and shading, thats just as important. So i suggest you go in establish a light source block in some shadows etc, and get on with it, look around in real life see how they react, the same with all the other stuff above. Well good luck, and get back at it. Instead of just leaving it a random doodle, finish it up, go take a look at wes9000 and his sketches for degenisis, and see what you can do with pencil, its a really subtle tool, you can use to your advatage.

[alex_86]

Just like most new artists, you need to learn to loosen up your lines a bit. Instead of using short, stiff strokes, use more fluid ones along with a light touch so that you may correct your mistakes.

As a result of the above, your tree is a bit too static. Try to make the branches a little more intricate.

As well you dont seem to have down a basic understanding of the 3D world.

Those are the two more important things. I could give you more advice but it would be of no use to you right now, you would be getting ahead of yourself.

g'luck n practice!