October SP

[Ni*]

another month...

[Ni*]

right, since i was a near now-show last month, here's 2 for starters...

http://nirvine.250free.com/oct1.jpg

http://nirvine.250free.com/oct2.jpg

out of practice with these but it kicks off the month, have fun folks

N

[sula_nebouxi]

Nice stuff Ni, I like your use of colors in the first painting. :) But that signature is awfully big isn't it? Kinda detracts away from the painting. Anyways...

*reminds self to get a wacom*

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~atso/Craptastic%20Art/self-portrait-10-1.jpg

Here's a boring ol' SP from the front that I did for practice on the 1st...I haven't done one of these in a loooooong time. So, I figured why not. I was trying to depict a little bit of a facial expression here instead of having a blank stare. Well...I guess I do have a blank stare but it's the expression that counts ;). I'm gonna do a 3/4(or some fraction) SP as soon as it gets darker here. I like drawing when there's only a lamp for lighting :)

[jondan]

well, that's me...kinda' :dur: just some pencil sketch, since i don't have a wacon. well, maybe on christmas! ;)

http://www.damagecorp.de/jon/pics/jondan.jpg

[Mindflaw]

Been a while, but I'm back hopeully weekly :)

Here's a silouette sp this time using my shadow instead of mirror going as simple as possible.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Mindflaw/Selfportraits/spsiluette.jpg

Jondan: *uses presumptuous voice (the kind where you want to strangle the person using it* It's not the tool that matters but what you do with it :P

sula_nebouxi: like your sp , one thing though is that your background tone/value is very similar to the value in your shade making you appear to be in a fog - melting in to the background a bit.

Ni*: Hey like the second one the best. Have fun you too :teeth:

[sula_nebouxi]

Thanks for the crit Mindflaw...I was kinda going for that my-face-just-popped-outta-the-shadows look :P. I'll try pushing some of the values a little more, especially the background.

[faB]

Howdy, I haven't posted here since... forever.

http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041005.jpg

~3h, Corel Painter Classic, Oil Pastel.

Left eye (right on image) gave me lots of trouble.. eyes always give me trouble. Value wise it seems to lack contrast, I tend to paint in the upper range of values, dont know why, guess I'll have to do lots of value studies.. :nohope:

Criticism most welcome.

sula_nebouxi : other than what mindflaw mentioned, it looks stretched out horizontally. Features look good though.

[Jens]

both look only slightly like me hehe

http://users.pandora.be/NO1/Jens/sp196.jpg

a bit too stylized, i look like some pretty boy :^^;:
http://users.pandora.be/NO1/Jens/sp197.jpg

[one2hit]

finished a few hours ago:

http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/newselfp.jpg

There's some symmetrical issues...a by-product of laziness.... :yawn:

[jondan]

thx mindflaw, the first comment i got in this forum! :) therefore i don't wanna strangle you! :P
and jens: i like the second one, even if u say, it's too stylized. i like drawing with colored pencil!

[I0N]

trying too hard...and not enough
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-06-stomachface.jpg

[shadoman]

About an hour in Painter 8 with Liquid Ink.
http://www.shawnadomanis.com/images/sp/sp_100504.jpg

Ni* - I like the second one much better. It seems very loose and quick, but holds up very well.
sula_nebouxi - I like the way it started, but it seems that you rendered from the inside out in this one. Like all of your time went on the eyes and glasses, but fizzled outward. Try blocking in the whole shape first and then render out... keep it up.
jondan - Hhahah. That's great. I love the characature style. No offense, but you look like Dennis Miller in The Fonz's jacket.
Mindflaw - Interesting minimalism.
faB - I really like this. It seems like you captured the tones very well. Very smooth and defined.
Jens - I think that the "stylized" one works. Simple, but effective.
one2hit - I like the pencil work, but I think that you need more contrast in your shadows, especially around the neck and background to make the face pop.
I0N - Very interesting duel "portrait".

[I0N]

thanks shadowman!
Turntable goat!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-07-turntablegoat.jpg

[nova]

whoa, the month's starting off with some rad variety. glad to see you in here too, nate! one tip for you, is try shading your eyelids. they are also round like your eyes and should be darker at the corners whether you have eyeshadow on or not [not that you wear eyeshadow]

alright, here are a couple sps [from sept :( ] to start me off. there's more in my sketchbook thread.. didn't want to spam this place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/darkpink/sb1015_sp02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/darkpink/sb1015_sp04.jpg

[one2hit]

glad to see you in here too, nate! one tip for you, is try shading your eyelids. they are also round like your eyes and should be darker at the corners whether you have eyeshadow on or not [not that you wear eyeshadow]


wow those are really cool. I've been thinking a lot about how the eyes work lately, and looking at mine a lot. I've discovered that I have no eyelids, lol. They are very very subtle. I think you can see it better on paper, than in this scan, but I did shade them. I should have exagerated it though to bring it to life on paper. I always love your self portraits Nova! they are rich!

here's one from september:
http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/crappysp.jpg

[I0N]

YAY NOVA! way ta get crazy! I always wanted to see that side of you...its crazy!

[asbestoshazard]

http://www.asbestoshazard.com/portraits/041006post.jpg

OpenCanvas3.03, 4 hours 36 minutes
As most of you know I have issues using...color. I got lazy and obviously didn't finish -- I'll have to try to clean up more of it later. I spent too long on it and I'm just too tired to continue; this is embarassing since there are already so many good ones up here! Seriously, the quality of work in here has really stepped up a notch or two!
Ni*: Good to see you, I like the one on top with the more intense shading.
sula_nebouxi: Very subtle shading techniques make for a nice effect; it's a very soft portrait. Excellent job on the glasses.
jondan: That is so much fun!
Mindflaw: :O!!!
FaB: Wow, just wow; the colors -are- bright but it's a great piece.
Jens: The confidence of your strokes is great; I like the wild shading on the top one.
one2hit: The detail in both pieces is nice -- I think you do a really good job of capturing the way the light works, too (refering mostly to the shadows cast by hat and specs)!
I0N: So creepy...both of them! I especially like some of the effects you have going on with the white swirls on the blue one.
shadoman: I'm lovin' the monotone work; the nose and brow are brought out nicely. Intense!
nova: Those rock, the flower one in particular. I've always been a fan of your line work; throwing the color on it is just awesome.
Good job, everyone. : )

[faB]

It was some sort of grin.. but it's all messed up the angle gave me trouble. The view was meant ot be a little from below, and sideways titlted, I think the angle doest come off in the pic :dead: I gotta put a poster behind me so I paint something else than a pale yellow wall lol

http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041006.jpg

shadoman: I like that SP, it feels solid

asbetoshazard : looks alright, colors give it a little 'sad' feeling. If you have problems with color you could try a black and white portrait to concentrate on light/shadow and the volume they define, you can always take it into photoshop and add color through a layer afterwards, or make a monochromatic image, with a warm or cold tone. For me the easiest way would be Painter Classic (assuming you have a graphic tablet), and the chalk or oil pastel with a light color on dark bgnd and just shade everything through the pen pressure.

For both colors & drawing really the hardest part I find is to stop seeing your face and see just what is there.. for color stop seeing red lips or pink skin or brown hair, but paint what is there. And *squint* *squint* *squint* and.. *squint* some more..

[I0N]

another...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-07-Stumpskull.jpg

[Jens]

http://users.pandora.be/NO1/Jens/sp198.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/NO1/Jens/sp199.jpg

fab, nice colors, you look totally drunk
eyes look a bit too small

cool to have someone else from belgium around

[Jens]

:at: :aw: :ao: :ah: :au: :an: :ad: :ar: :ae: :ad: :a!::a!::a!::a!::a!:

WHOOO!

http://users.pandora.be/NO1/Jens/sp200.jpg

[faB]

Painter / Round Camel Hair & Eraser
Boy, that angle gave me a run for my money
http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041007.jpg

Jens - your 5/10 SP is great, congratulations on 200th SP, that's some dedication!

[Molly]

Hey ppl,

Real nice SP's in here. I dont usually join in, but I thought Id share what I've been doing over the last coupla days...No special technique used, my first every SP in oil paint...
Sun 3rd Oct...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/Tekura/SP3-oct-04_lores.jpg

Weds 6th Oct...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/Tekura/SP6-oct-04_lores.jpg

Lotsa fun doing these, I endeavor to do some more!

Mollyx

[Jens]

hey molly

when i saw the second one i thought "yes that's her"
very nice colors as well. I'm not sure but mayby you have to look at the jaw angle, doesn't look quite right.

fab, thx :)
that one is nice and clean good job

[-The Swift-]

Here's mine.
couple oh ours-mechanical pencils-from a photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/theswift/selfportraitnew.jpg

Very nice molly btw and well done Jens, 200 is a mighty big number of selfportraits!

[nova]

molly, those are awesome!! the second one is my favorite. <3 <3 keep going, chic

[faB]

The Swift : good job, I like how you rendered the hair

Grayscale portraits from now on till my eyes stop lying to me, I butchered the mouth/chin/eye in the shadow side, dammit for once I had pretty much nailed one of my eyes :P I gotta sleep.

EDIT: dammit, I painted the forehead too long :\

http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041011.jpg

[cotron]

been a while since I've posted in this thread, nice to see it's still rockin.

http://codymiles.com/images/sketches/101204/sp1011.jpg

kind of an emo drawing, didn't mean for it to be that way.. oh well >:D

[cutt3r]

help! how do i post a self portrait that is not already on the internet?

[nova]

help! how do i post a self portrait that is not already on the internet?

hey there, try this: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28184

[Mindflaw]

Ok got a new agenda I've started to draw the outline of the head first (I think it will improve my way to look at things) then the features and I'm spending less time at each sp now so that I can do one a day without a morale failure. Hopefully there will be improvements. Don't comment on this one since I'm to aware of it's flaws as it is :\

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Mindflaw/Selfportraits/spny.jpg

cotron: nice 8) , check out the space between the eye seems to wide. The spaces between the eye and ear seem correct since you look slightly to my left.

faB: sounds like a good idea, when you start using colour again you can make an extra copy and turn it into grayscale mode to see if you were tricked by the colours.

-The Swift-: Great sp! to really nitpick check out the pupils if they are pointing in the exact same direction seems like they are very slight off but it might just be me I'm always slight off in just about everything ;)

Molly: The second one I really like. You look very different in the two sp:s like in the first you look like white person and in the other one asian, perhaps you're both just looked at your face differently? Anyway in the first one the eyes is to wide apart, you might try this: When you have painted a while stop and check proportions to see if they are correct,(since you most of the time you see more and more as you paint). That way you may correct the proportions and stuff like that as you progress with the painting. That has at least improved me somewhat, when it comes to proportions and such even if I have miles to go yet. Anyhow you're second one is a huge improvement no matter how you look irl. Make sure to post more sp:s I could even be your fanboy in this thread if you want (and if they are at least as good as the second one).

Jens: TWOHUNDRED MAN... TWOHUNDRED THATS GREAT!
I got some sp:s to go heh... some? I mean many before I get to where you are :)

ION: You got some cool sp:s going on. When it comes to the two green and red sp:s I think the first one works much better composition-wise (talking about how the colours works togheter). I think so because in the first one they work togheter to center the "eye" (my eye) on the your face, but in the second they start to compete a little about the attention, not that much but anyway thats how I perceive it.

asbestoshazard: Hey that green don't do you justice :confident

one2hit: nice sp:s liked the first one the best.

nova: Hey dude, your sp you did in the challenge was real good that one deserved a doublepost here too :). I noticed some cool textures in your sp:s in some spots where you painted red over the black (shows in the second one), maybe you should explore it some more, you know work with it like the black ink was watercolour pencils and go over it with some coloured ink like red.

shadoman: your sp looks a little like it was made of clay strange enough your ear-ring shows a lot or at least it caught my attention.

[I0N]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-08-voice.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-09-AfterTrash.jpg

[cutt3r]

here's mine from about a week ago.. done on newsprint with pencil :^^;:
http://www.upload4free.com/files/8748.jpg
i hope that this works.
it is i think my 5th sp ever, so keep that in mind

[one2hit]

cutt3r, resize please? for those of us with 1024 x 768 and lower it streaches the whole forum around and makes it hard to see the image. (edit: cool)

here's a quick red sharpie SP I did when I was falling asleep last night.

http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/blownsp.jpg

Engrish lovers...you know you're out there :wink:

[cutt3r]

sorry :nohope: :^^;: i didn't realize how big it was until it was up, and after that, at full size it overloaded the computer (and 4 others) for the next half hour (before i disconnected them).. finally i am at a computer with some real processing power and can fix it.. please forgive :^^;:

[nova]

nate ~ woo boy. the red reminds me of that dark red blood chocolate stuff they use in movies like psycho. very scary. hope you're ok :) i heard about the car.. hope everything turns out alright

cutt3r - glad you were able to start posting. menacing! that eye is spot-on.

ION ~ the fact you didn't hide anything going on makes it extra creepy. the stretch marks on the neck give me the chills. kind of an iconic way of showing what's going on. the sketchy print port is fantastic. really visceral. hope to see more of both of these themes.

mindflaw - i'm not commenting on your portrait :) just keep going and trying new things. sometimes it helps to keep moving on and looking for what works for you.

[one2hit]

LOL. yeah it's not like...some deep subliminal clue about my inner feelings. I just wanted to draw a face of a guy's head blowing off. Coincidentally, it looked a little like me. The car's no big deal.

[sula_nebouxi]

one2hit, that's hilarious...engrish rules!

[jondan]

very good stuff comin' up here! keep it up!
here's me, feelin' kinda hulkish these days...bit annoyed and stuff. so, here's what im talking about... :bashful:

http://www.damagecorp.de/jon/pics/me2color.jpg

[one2hit]

hehe. Watch the lean of the face there. The jaw line is horizontal almost, but the face lays on a leaning axis. The line from each tear duck, each nostral, general path of the mouth, and butt ends of the jaw are all parallel to each other (in most cases).

[jondan]

jup, right u r! :) this angle always beats the hell out of me. should practice that and use reference for it. thanks, helped me a lot!

[one2hit]

http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/sadsp.jpg

SP of how I feel like right now. Half bored because I don't like going to night school, half sad because I miss my girlfriend.

[asbestoshazard]

http://asbestoshazard.com/portraits/041013.jpg

Blech! I don't know what i'm doing sometimes. x_x Should just go back to black and white and stop fiddling around with this color nonsense.
Too tired for comments. : / Laterrrrr...hopefully. x_x

[asbestoshazard]

http://www.asbestoshazard.com/portraits/041014.jpg

:: OpenCanvas 3.03, 38 minutes
Trying to reclaim my face...x___x

faB, Jens :: Awesome portraits thus far
Molly :: I love the paintings, especially the second; the wild hair is great.
The Swift :: That portrait looks so clean, really nice work on the hair and nose.
cotron :: I like the effect that style gives off, looks like a fun sketch.
Mindflaw :: I know. X(
Ion :: I am liking that one over the back of the resume; such a simple sketch
cutt3r :: Something about the large eyes and way the grin falls just creep me out. :D I think part of it must be the cut out bit with the blank eye, too.
one2hit :: Sharpies!! I -love- sharpies; the one in pencil is good, too -- the eyes seem very tired and weary.
jondan :: Who is that lovable? It's ever lovin' Hulk! The neck is so thick; he looks like he's gonna smash -something-; you suceeded in going for that hulkish look.

[cutt3r]

I have another sp that i actually did before the one i posted (i should be getting better right??) the one that i am talking about i spent about an hour on (20minutes on the one that is up currently) but after i put a background in it lost the effect.. i really hate how the background looks, but it is to late to erase :( i think i'll scan the pic and touch it up in photoshop (erase the background namely) then post it.

[jondan]

scan it an post it with background, and without it. here are lots of people, who will give u very good advice on it. looking forward seeing 'em :)

[S51]

First self-portrait post, just a 10 minute quicky while waiting for my ladyfriend to get dressed (come to think of it, 10 minutes was probably pretty damn fast for something like that. ;))

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/SuperS51/selfportrait.jpg

[sula_nebouxi]

Damn...it's been a while since I made a self portrait. I need to do more :( Here's one I just finished, 1.5 hrs. Not my best, since it doesn't really look like me and it ended up looking a bit cartoony. I thought I would try something different this time. I usually blend a lot, so this time I just used hatching. And I've finally gotten better at making the ellipses for my glasses w00t!

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~atso/Craptastic%20Art/self-portrait-10-15.jpg

S51- Yeah that is pretty quick for a self portrait;) It takes me that long just to block everything out, heh.
asbestoshazard- nice portraits although in the 2nd one, your face looks a bit...pale. I think there's just a little too much white there.
one2hit- great SP, a lot of emotion showing there.

Hope I can post more soon...

[D.O.Jones]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/RashOverdrive/SP101004.jpg

[Mindflaw]

This is the one I think is best from last weeks batch of sp:s in a couple of months I think I'm going to be skilled enough to try avoid the sp-stare one gets when concentrated and staring into a mirror. Fun thing about that stare is that some perceive it as absent of "emotion" and some as you were pissed of or something like that :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Mindflaw/Selfportraits/kvarts.jpg

Nova: thanks for the none-comment :)

Ni* don't forget to keep the momentum up :teeth:

Rash Overdrive: looks like an imprevement from the last one you posted.

sula_nebouxi: just keep at it, I'll try to give some valid advices:
1. try using a tool (e.g pencil) where you wont smudge the lines togheter as easily.
2. when using a blending technique you may blend on the paper, when you hatch you don't so try to have a "plan" for every stroke you make since they all matter. It's not only the the value you create that counts but also the lines themself unles you draw the really close then the effect of the lines get less.
3. One plan is to use the lines as to show the 3 dimensionality of the pic both as single lines and as groups of lines as you see in the image below the surface change a lot on depending on how you use the lines, so an easy start would be to draw the lines as the would be wrapped against the head.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Mindflaw/Selfportraits/lines.jpg
4. experiment on a blank paper before using it on the actual image until you get the hang of it, you know the more practice you put in to it the less thinking you have to do. Oh and I think hatching is a pain in the a-- so I don't do as much yet.

S51: do a sp where you put in so much time that your behind begs you to stop this one is a little to little time spent to give any good crits unless as it's now I can only say: Yep that's quick if it looks like you it's good aswell as quick.

asbestoshazard:hey this a qoute from el coro about skin colour: ok, think about it like this... its not about color at all, its about value. if the values read, it can be whatever color you want. skin is all about the right values and edges and transitions..if those are correct you could literally use pink and green, and it would look perfect. one thing to keep in mind is that skin is much more desaturated than how you are approaching it, and in addition, has much more color to it. cheeks, ears, lips are redder, the bottom of the face is bluer or greener, and the forhead is yellower, but these changes are very very slight, and arent unbreakable rules. what im trying to say is dont think so much about what color skin is, more pay attention to what values you are suing, and if you can make em work, go apeshit with color, as long as the values stay the same, you'd have to try to fuck it up. good luck, and i hope my ramblings make some sense...-c36
What I want to say with the qoute is just that as long as you see the colours true value and don't get fooled by the hue and intensity, you get the colour stuff alright, so I think go back to greyscale if you think you really sucks at values but if you think you got the hang of value then just focus on learning to see the value of the colours you're using. I think going back and practice the basics will always improve you no matter how skillful you are, so do both the colour nonses and some greyscale stuff if you think you have some grasp of values when doing greyscale pics otherwise just do the greyscale stuff.
Well thats my thought hope you find them useful (I have a tendency to just write nonsense at least 90% of the time)

Jondan: lol it looks like your head is trying to lift off from your body like a rocket I have no good crits atm more than the one2hit gave you.

one2hit: cool ones but please do a happy one too, not just these depressing ones :)

cutt3r: keep in mind that eyes with only a tiny variation is one eye apart from eachother, try to learn the basics of how the head is constructed will help you check out if you got it right, but of course always trust you eyes mesurement the most because of all the natural difference in different heads and so on.

ION: nice :)

[I0N]

I never heard that quote from coro! wow he is great a really making things so easy and clear to understand...

gonna have to disagree with you about S51's Sp though I think it has a good amount of energy shown in his linework it is very well done, clean I wish I could do one like that...

oh yeah and thanks

one2hit-I'm really liking the feeling you are putting into your sps

Nova-I'm not too clear on what you mean bout not hiding anything,but glad you liked it...made my day when I read it a while back and was depressed

S51-great job!

asbestoshazard-I feel exactly like what you feel but you know if we keep at it we'll make it work besides it looks like your on your way...umm just dont get too far ahead of me :D

rash-you are sick! that line work is SICK! AHHH! please give me some of that skill!

[jerO]

sorry about the cross-post from the OC .wpe thread:

first one i've done in a long time. need to get a desk mirror.
Just made all this up from my bent self-image.
i'm really not that angry... much.
http://www.valleydweller.com/netsketches/sp-10-18.jpg

[Mindflaw]

ION: I did not write that s51 sp was bad on the contrary it's good, but I stated that if he did a sp where he puts a lot of time on, it would make it possibly to at least try to give good crits, (by crits I mean stuff like you might want to try this instead and that seems to be a little wrong maybe try this). As it is now it's only possible to give comments by comments I mean stuff like writing great work and such. But I might value crits to much and neglecting the value of comments. I'll try to be more balanced in the future. And if the above is what you disagreed about well some disagrement is only healthy you know getting more than one viewpoint on stuff :)

JerO: Welcome to the sp thread

[peterhurman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/ovenglove/meforpostincopy.jpg

[sula_nebouxi]

Thanks for the comments mindflaw. Heh I was actually using pencil that time. I barely use anything else except a white charcoal pencil. I think I only used an HB in that portrait too. I think I get what you're describing, cross contouring right?. Problem is I have lots of trouble doing cross contouring too haha. I have to do more of those sometime so I can figure out what I'm supposed to do exactly. But yeah I think I get the general idea of how hatch lines are supposed define form. Just need to work on it some more :)

ok time for a few comments...
Rash- nice SP, those are the kind of hatch lines I'm trying to get at ;), except mine at a wee bit too fat.
mindflaw- a suggestion if I may: try drawing your portrait with a light close to you. Having a bright light close to you will make some nice shadows and that'll help create form a lot better. And don't be afraid to use darker pencils!
jerO- I like it, a lot of emotion, although the nose looks a bit smushed.
oven- wow that's an intense color and yet you still got the values down. Only thing that looks a bit off are the eyes and top of the forehead. The nose, mouth and chin say the head is level but the rest look slanted. Keep at it though!

[Ni*]

always put the bloody eyes too high!!!

anyway here's a try again with colour, wasnt going for realism, just concistency..

comments later, i need to go cook dinner, great work so far though!

N

http://nirvine.250free.com/oct5.jpg

[cutt3r]

yay! i finally found the time to scan and upload the other sp that i was talking about. here it is without a background, i hate the background, but was told to post both :er:. the one i photoshoped is the correct size (and right side up) but the original i gues i forgot to save the flipping and resizing of it, so i will post it when i get back to the computer that it is on.
http://www.upload4free.com/files/14957.jpg

when i get the other one up, help me figure out how to fix or replace the background please :[

[cotron]

sorry no time to comment, good looking stuff guys

pen in sketchbook, photoshop for color-
http://codymiles.com/images/sketches/102004/sp1020.jpg

i'm so rusty at these

[steak-tron]

Great sp's peoples

sula_nebouxi: your avatar is hilarious, I had to save it :teeth:. Nice sp dude, that brown paper stuff will really help to understand value, looks like we have the same sketchbook.

Cotron: cool approach dude, I can tell it's you even tho you aint got eyes.

Scorn, Arrogance and Pride...sort of.
http://www.kempart.com/Artwork%20popups/october_E5.jpg

[Blackhawk]

I miss doing these. Here is a quick one before bed for you guys.

http://images.snitzerart.com/spod/spod286.jpg

[faB]

woot! Blackhawk, welcome back! hope to see more of your contributions ! (I haven't posted regularly since Dec 2002 duh :dur: but I remember your posts back then, gotta check the 2003 SP threads when I have time)

yesterday's masterpiece titled : "impatience". the 1st one I got the main shapes not bad, then food was ready .. 'bout 20 min; 2nd one I got the proportions all wrong, and painted without glasses on, tried to focus on value but it still lacks contrast imho, I mean the desk lamp was pretty much in my eye (ouch). still compared to my oct 5th contribution its pretty funny, there's no way the wall could have been so bright, even now in the afternoon its darker than what I painted then..

http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041019.jpg

my 2cents comments :

mindflaw(oct 13) : watch for the 'symbols' esp the almond shaped eyes (they sure are hard to draw, think of the eye balls and the eyelids if it helps), at the most basic level I guess you can try separate clearly the backround/foreground so make a darker background or make the face darker and light background.. (cf. Loomis's creative illustration / tonal plans / thumbnails) PPS: dont worry about justyfying your comments, I prefer to see SOMEONE's opinion rather than a -please-all- comment

ION : your oct 6th is the coolest for me yet, oct 7 might be lacking a focus point? not sure, but if you squint its all more or less the same value, oct 13, not sure what the feeling is expressed, but you may enhance it more with colour? the white shirt seems to cool down whatever the effect was also compete with the white eyes?

cutt3r: 5th sp? your on the right way I'd say, avoid muddying up with grays all over, I am guessing there is a little more light on the leftmost side, you can really 'sculpt' the face with light and dark, for ex go in with an eraser for some nice bright spots and a 2b-4b pencil for hair/eye ?

asbetoshazard: yout 14 oct sp colors are not bad imho, I really liked the desaturated pink. I thinkthayt 14 oct sp was just a bit flat, if you squint the face and neck are pretty much one value, I still have a long way to go but what I do now is this : I dont know how to paint a 'bluer' skin color (short of really painting it blu ewith the right value which would still work), so I geenrally go for a darker value, and decrease the saturation slightly to give it the colder tone, by contrast the desaturated 'warm' color appears somewhat bluer althouhg it s not really.. just geenrally using the same colour lighter or darker is boring, I'm sure you have some red in the corner of the eyes, for example

oven g love : you got some nice shading going on, in this slight 3/4 angle check the space between the eye and the side of the face on the right most side it was probably twice as long as the leftmost side, so the left eye (rightmost on the image) is too far of the nose

Ni* : you got some nice colours there, better than oct 4th imho. the corner of the leftmost eye (right eye) can almost disappear at that angle, in fact the 'plane' of the eyeball near the corner of the eye on that side is almost straight on with the view direction

more comments later..

[cutt3r]

http://upload4free.com/files/15657.jpg
here's the one with background (obviously) i'll tell about it later, cuz right now i am late for class

[Yoell]

Great sp's peoples

sula_nebouxi: your avatar is hilarious, I had to save it :teeth:. Nice sp dude, that brown paper stuff will really help to understand value, looks like we have the same sketchbook.

Cotron: cool approach dude, I can tell it's you even tho you aint got eyes.

Scorn, Arrogance and Pride...sort of.
http://www.kempart.com/Artwork%20popups/october_E5.jpg

you look like Eminem in that middle one :wink:

I need to bite the bullet and do a sp.

carry on-

Drew

[Oblio]

u guys/girls are amazing! ION - you're sick.
See you all in SF - don't even think of skipping!

hotel room - before haircut.
http://www.conceptart.org/OblioThread/20Oct2k4.jpg

[cutt3r]

>:D oblio, you look amazing in your sp, you look like that one guy from the matrix, the one who tried to turn them all in in the first video. that is awesome :tihi: ...
also looking good, steak_tron, but.. i am confused about what you look like now.. the three different pictures pull up different head on appearances in my mind, but they look amazing anyway. :^^:
mine of course needs work on it's shitty background, but the rest are looking good too, i just don't have time to comment on them, 'cuz i am missing my ap art class to even do this :^^;:.. its like shooting myself in the foot...

[sula_nebouxi]

Ni- great job with the colors. The purple shadows work surprisingly well.
cutt3r- shading looks ok, but the features look off. Examine harder and compare and measure the sizes of your eyes compared to the rest of your face. Don't worry about detail or background till you get the features down.
cotron- I like the looseness in these. Good job :)
steak-tron- Great SP's as always. I love the hatching and the expressions. And thanks for your comment. Coming from someone who does such awesome drawings, it's really a great compliment, so thanks! :) Oh, and yeah I love my avatar and brown paper rules :) I'm still trying to get values down. I'm not even gonna touch color till I do.
Blackhawk- great SP. So few brushstrokes yet so accurate.
faB- Nice one. The colors look spot on and I like the looseness.
Oblio- Very nice. I love the line work here.

Well...since I have this interest in expressions I thought I would draw myself making an expression. So....here we go. I did it fairly quickly(for me) 1 hour. I may go back and touch it up but for now...tear it up!
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~atso/Craptastic%20Art/self-portrait-10-21b.jpg

[Mindslyde]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/mindslyde/conceptART/self_001.jpg

It's been a long long time since I did an SP. Too long, in fact, so thanks for the inspiration guys. All of you! ;)

[cotron]

mindslyde- you let the color of your ground match the forum colors.. that's pretty cool!

some gouache/ink
http://codymiles.com/images/sketches/102204/sp1022.jpg

[faB]

Photoshop 7, chalk brush.
http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041022.jpg

[one2hit]

@ faB: I really love your portraits, especially that last one, pretty great stuff.

@ Steak: Dude, that is awesome, keep kicking the shit out of those pencils. One crit, I might be seeing it wrong though. The skin tone looks really dark in those three heads...I'm not sure how you can fix this, or if it's even really a problem, but since some parts of the face are highly lit up, and others are not, it somehow seems like the actual color of the skin is dark, instead of shadow or texture. I don't know, they are pretty fantastic though..I might just be dilusional hehe.

I was sitting in class when a girl started talking about how she didn't want to do the self portrait at the end of the class or something, so I drew this one for her to calm her down about it..*shrug* I have a few more awaiting scan :D

http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/foursp.jpg

ahh crap, I just realized that the image is flipped...now it looks horrible! Lol.. I'm trying really hard lately to keep the symmetry between the eyes. I realize that from many angles they eyes will look different from each other, but it's getting the general shapes to line up and be about the same size that's killing me...dunno why it's so hard to draw two things symmetrical.

[Matt Smith]

Oops ive been slackin, but not today. Sometimes I hate how painter displays your image and then you bring it up is photoshop and it looks so different. Oh well. Is it just me or do I look like a beaten up Stallone?

http://www.mattksmith.com/sp22.jpg

[shadoman]

Matt Smith - Hahha. Yeah, you do kind of look like a beaten up Stallone. Good work though. My son said, "Why is that guy yelling at people?"

The reason stuff looks different in Photoshop and Painter is Painter has layers like gel and Photoshope doesn't, so it finds the closest approximation.

Good work from all else. I have been too busy with work and an Oil painting of my kids, but I will attempt a new Self Portrait soon.

[Carfax]

Ni*: You have some very good studies. I like how you’ve clearly depicted the lighting on your face.
faB: Excellent portraits. I really like your color choices for your skin tone.
cotron: The grouping of the four faces is very nice; it looks like blind contour drawing. The use of three colors is a good compliment to the sketch.
Rash Overdrive: Very nice drawing and good crosshatching on the face.
Blackhawk: Miss ya!
Oblio: I remember your very old portraits and your new drawings look wonderful. That’s a great nose you’ve drawn in that sketch. Probably the hardest feature to understand on the face (at least for me).
Silvrain: Really love that one. You have a vampiric look about you in it. The splashes of orange/red are a nice touch. I hope to see more.
sula nebouxi: Nice. Keep working on the anatomy. The neck could use some attention in your last one. Perhaps some darker values next time?
I0N: Interesting ideas.
shadoman: LOVE that one you have posted.
Jens: Nice sketching. I like the simplicity of the one in orange pencil.
Nova: Blooooody.
asbestoshazard: Nice soft shading. Be careful not to get the colors too muddy.

Here’s me, an idealization of me at least. I wish my skin really looked like that. I suppose I should do more. This is the first in, maybe two years?

http://www.spherenoire.com/forumart/sp_dead.jpg

[Mindflaw]

Ok no sp today I have only done crappy sp:s the whole week long though I will make another tomorrow night and post it whatever the outcome.

oven g love: watch the alignment and remember the thumbrule of the eyes being one eye apart. Keep it up.

sula nebouxi: lol I'm using a lamp close to me but I got two problems firstly i didn't got the dark parts as dark as they should. Secondly I get a lot of reflected light from the walls where I draw, but it's the only place I can use for now.

About the pencil it's possibly to go very dark with just using a hb pencil, but I was lazy since it takes time to build up value correctly so I kept it light thus made a quite dull sp. Thanks for the suggestions.

about your quick sp it's seems like you skewed your face a little...make sure you get back in the same position when you look at yourself even when you make quick sp:s. I have that problem of just getting caught in the fun of drawing that I forget to get back to the position I'm supposed to be in... so heh don't have to fun.

Ni* : Don't know how you do, but maybe a change of how you use to do could do the trick. Perhaps you could try to start with putting down two dots for height of head and two dots for the width and two dots where the eyes should be before you start the painting and the go about it as you use to do. You know as to get one more consius thought about where the eyes should go.

cutt3r: imo your sp seems "empty" without the background cause if all the white space.

Cotron: could you post your (oct 20) sp as it looked before colour it seems like the colour added a lot just curious as to how much.

steak-tron: nice ones

Blackhawk: Nice seeing ou here again in spite that you probably slave in front of those barque drawings like eight hours a day or something :)

faB: thanks for the tips I should have gone darker with the sp at first I did go with a really dark bg but it just felt really wrong perhaps cause I had made the sp evenly grey anyway I put in like ten minutes of erasing the bg so it would be lighter.

You seems to have improved your value-making skills your face looks different now. I waas reading some other thread (by Velo int the lifedrawing section) where she was drawing from blurred photos as to get the understanding that likeness is in the big volumes and shadow masses in the face not details.....lol maybe you drawing without glasses was good :).....Ps: I didn't justyfie my comment I claryfied it... this on the other hand is justyfying :P

Oblio: Sorry theres an ocean in the way and stuff

Silvrain: nice one

mindslyde: ha the part of making the bg colour the same really made your head look like a ballon floating around (in a good way)

one 2hit: Hey copy the image and flip it and put it left of this one that would be neat and you get some space in the middle to draw something fitting in... well eh just a suggestion. Eyepart seems good in my amateur eyes :)

Matt Smith alias Rocky :D

Turokess: I like your sp especially the lilac/blue colourscheme. Anyway I would like to see you do a sp from mirror to see in what style you draw in then.

[Mindflaw]

ok this angle was way to hard for me :\, next sp will be better :confident
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Mindflaw/Selfportraits/spupp.jpg

faB: reread the post saw that, that was what you meant with the not using your glasses ...*reminds myself not to post replies when tired*

goodnight folk :zzz:

[Ni*]

mindflaw- thanks for the indepth feedback, i feel bad for not contributing more but i'm just too busy at the moment (and i find just sketching in my sketchbook more relaxing). What pencil do you use? it looks like you work quite light so it may be worth trying a really soft pencil kept sharp. Alternatively find the darkest areas of the face and keep going back to them to really build up the darks. Doing this with pencil work really helped me to become more confident with tone. You may want to try starting with a mid tone and rubbing the graphite into the paper with a piece of tissue then picking out the light with an eraser and working into the dark..... oh and a couple of skull studies are always good fun.

Turokess- thats very nice, very smooth and i like the blues and pinks on the skintone. it looks like your eyes sockets are completely concave though, and i'd like to see a little more red in the cheeks, but thats just personal preferance :-p

Matt Smith- heh, rocky! rocky! rocky! i like how you're so adventurous with the poses and expressions, but this one seems a little twisted at the mouth, i think thats what gives in the rocky vibe...

one2hit- nice sketches, that page looks cool, the only thing that jumps out at me is the distance between the eyes and the bottom of the nose, it seems to be pushing your mouth down too, try drawing the mouth first then the nose last.

fab- that last grey one is cool, very moody. i think i'll do a black and white one next.

ok i've run out of time here, sorry to anyone i missed, i'll try to give more feedback from now on...


cheers

N

[faB]

yesterday 's poo poo, was tired. still very flat, oct 23rd was very flat as well.

I'm like trying to reach both ends of the grayscale spectrum I guess to the detriment of all the subtle values inside the lit or shadowed part (only lit part here), I'm like Alice in grayscale wonderland, I noticed a lot of times if I use the 100% white, it's so bland!! and that's because it just doesnt look bright at all unless it's sitting next to something dark. I guess that;'s what Loomis means by relation of light to shadow, stronger light, stronger shadows, very diffused light : shadows almost blend into the light. oct23rd was a lot better for likeness

http://home.tiscali.be/ahmo0008/img-posts/autoportrait-20041025.jpg

Turokess: looks good! I think your background's a tad uniform, you can use it to enhance your portrait, this is just an idea but painting dark-but-not-black value towards the upper right you can suggest the shape of the head with the black hair detaching against it, to give more volume, cheap trick I know just an idea and maybe the values blending into the background is also an interesting way to go about it. I'd say watch for blending too much and loosing form. Theres a nice defined shadow under the finger that tells me where the light comes from, but its not clear from the rest of the face and especially the neck and down is less defined.

mindflaw : good attempt, shows you have been measuring, the view angle 'reads' well. Watch for rendering the beard , eyebrows and such, I got caught up in those as well, they distract you from the form they become flat in a drawing. Try watch them as patches of values, although its harder to see the form without the nice gradations on the skin, you can see some value changeson the hair as it rounds the jaw, or forehead etc..

sorry it takes me forever to comment, I'll try and comment different people's work as I post more
cheers

[jetpack42]

FaB- I don't like how the hand cuts off abruptly, you should diffuse it out or something. looks like a david copperfield trick or something. the overall values are working pretty good for me...i feel like there should be a little more highlight and shadows around the nose though.

midflaw- try and draw the structures of the lips. as they are, they look kinda like worms...hehe.

turokess- awesome likeness. extremely good likeness, i'll say, just like I remember you in austin.

matt smith- you also need some work on the lips. i like the overall sp, but the lips run really flat and awkward.

one2hit- keep em coming man, i'm glad you're posting. you're doing great.


20 minutes, I had to scribble after the awful watercolor attempt whos badness I saved solely for my sketchbook.
http://www.mlentz.com/watts009.jpg

[cutt3r]

when i signed onto this forum, did i unwittingly (and rudely, might i add) barge in on a private webpage in which all other members (except those like me) know eachother?? i feel like an outsider.. am i even welcome here?

[jetpack42]

yeah, post some more. this site is for everyone.

[Mindflaw]

Cutt3r: As jetpack said this site is for everyone including you, some people know eachother better e.g Jetpack but he also posted like 1800 times more than you and like about 1500 times more than me so he is bound to know people here better than you and me too :), but just keep posting and you will get to know me and other at this forum better and we know you. Oh and about your sp as I wrote before the sp version without background feels empty with all that white space so I liked the one with the background better.
I'm awaiting a new sp from you :)

Jetpack42: the best basic tip I ever got about watercolour is: it's all about controlling the water.... Knowing what happens when using a lot of water and what happens with just a little water how to control the flow and such. Now go and get control of that d-mn water and show us a watercolour sp :an: :ao: :aw: :a!: :a!: :a!:

faB; thanks for the C&C:s I once actually thought about shaving that damn beard off so I could get at least close to a decent sp :nohope:

Ni*: Thanks. I also find doing sketchbook stuff more relaxing :) sp:s have a tendency to get "serious". Don't feel bad come back when you have the time we like you anyway :teeth:

[Ni*]

here's a minimal one tonight, i'm starting to really notice and enjoy the rollercoaster of good feeling to ugly stage and back..... yet i still get stuck on the closest side of the face, i think i only do this with self portraits though.

http://nirvine.250free.com/oct6.jpg

cutt3r- sorry you felt like that, just bad timing, alot of people are busy so not alot of time to offer feedback, to make up for it...

yours has some nice features, like the nose is great, but the eyes are way too large and the outline seems a little harsh. one thing i try from time to time is to work from the eyes out, or from the silhouette inward. keep at it though and the more you post, the more feedback you'll get :-)

jetpack- moody!! nice show of emotion. i'd like to see a similar one with slowly layered tone- that would allow you to push the darks much more. I found a set of watercolours in a cupboard last week so i'd like to try them too but i have no idea where or how to start- let me know how you get on.

mindflaw- i check in here when i can, i find SPs get serious too i need to try to have more fun with them, whre is jook tese days anyway? :p


cheers

Niall

[I0N]

hey fab thanks for the crits! your right about everything, those are just things I gotta keep an eye out for in the future...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-10-Picasshole.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/I0Nryu/SP-11-Washedup.jpg

[bhuddistmonk]

wow guys, good stuff this month. I see improvement everywhere.

Ive been sooooooo busy, but tonight i decided to disregard everything and do a quick photoshop sp.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/Bhuddistmonk/sp102704.jpg

[one2hit]

I've had zero time to do anything (2 jobs and full time school) so I've been scribbling in this lined note pad in between classes or on breaks...anyway these aren't so great, but whatever:

http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/uglysp.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/scribblesp.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/5minsp.jpg
I did this in the car today on break in 5 min. I think actually it was more like 6 minutes, but who's counting.

OMfg I need to take off this hat.

@Jp: Thanks for the words of encouragement Mike...I rarely get any so it's pleasant to hear. I like that portrait but it doesn't look like you a whole lot. I mean it does, but like..your head looks freaking skinny in that one!

Turokess, that is so awesome...I had some minor nitpicking with that image earlier, but I'm too tired to remember, and blown away too much right now by the awesome skin blending around the forehead and brow..whoa. faB I love that last one, didn't even recognize the hand cut-off problem until Jp mentioned it. It's not bad, but it would be cool if it faded off like the edges of the face. Cutt3r...don't worry dude. I'm familiar with a few people here, but not a whole lot. well..maybe a little bit more, but when I first joined I didn't know anyone here, and it was no big deal...the more you post, the more people will notice you hanging around and are more likely to give you comments...half the people I comment to I don't even know at all. Same with the ppl who comment to me..it's allll good.

Ion.......whoa.....that's insanity.
somehow I think that yellow spot shoulda matched the blue...looks like he miss-aimed the mustard bottle during lunch.

holy crap I need :yawn:

[nova]

http://www.geocities.com/darkpinkwink/sp102704_coldfall.txt

here's tonights, i'll post some comments in the morning.. way to tired to give anything useful right about now

[one2hit]

Those eyes are perfect!

[I0N]

AGREED! :D that is one sweet portrait and yeah this cold whether is sweet too...on a side note umm just wondering...are you into like gothic stuff...its just that I noticed that your style leans toward the dark side...very nice stuff

one2hit glad you think its insanity but its nothing special really, the yellow was put there to draw the eye toward the nose area and make you feel uncomfortable at the same time. kinda representing this big ass pimple on my nose ugh! I'm gonna do a more graphic one soon :D
by the way the two in the middle are my favs the one with all the splatter is especially moist very well done. the top one is funny the kid in the back of the car reminds me of me keep them comin

[cutt3r]

urg... >:{ i was talking to a college rep. today for MIAD (some institute of art and design, maybe miniapolis, or milwaukee).. anyway, he was looking at my measley portfolio, and through my sketch books, and he said it was "great, amazing" he told me that he would love to set up a portfolio meeting time with me to help me pick out pieces to submit to that college... i know that this sounds like an honor, but it really didn't feel like it... i have maybe 20-25 hours of work in my portfolio, and that is all.. (12 figure drawings [1 incomplete], 3 self portraits[2 that have been posted here, and one that has not], and then lastly a portrait of my friend.) all are in pencil, and i think 8 of the pieces are on newsprint. mine was the only portfolio that he even looked at all of the pieces in. still sounding great? here is what i didn't like. the 2 worst pieces that i had (one not even in my portfolio, he just found it flipping through my sketchbook) he said were my best pieces, and he really wants to see more like them. one was my first self portrait (it looks like i was hit by an iron. all of my features are smashed, and i am so emberrased by it that i refuse to let anyone see it.) the other was a figure drawing that i drew in about 7 minutes, from the 9 inches of my pencil away from the paper (i held onto the eraser). it has almost no contrast at all, and as far as shape definition, it can only be compared to how a good drawing would have appeared were it vibrated at about 5-7k rpm (a lot)...

am i overly critical of my pieces and his response, or.. what?

sorry i haven't commented on anything of anyone elses lately. i have had finals this week and like a million projects due (I haven't slept in days, literally) i'll say some stuff when i get a chance.. all that really remains in my mind at this point is that turokess' sp is uber amazing.. hs.. also, one2hit, your stuff always makes me smile and think (this kind of smile.. erm.. where is the 'evil plan grin' smiley face?!.. i suppose that this will do >:D) i always like coming here and looking at people's stuff, lots of good stuff here.. i almost always leave inspired.. (actually, so inspired usually that i run off and find my sketch book and forget to sign off or leave comments and 'thumbs up' :^^;: so... here it is :^^: :hatsoff: now time for some sleep :zzz: zzz lots and lots of it :zzz:

[retro]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/retro002/self1.jpg

nice to see this thread still alive- :teeth:


@ cutter: lol, i know that scenario. to some of my teachers i can show my "best" drawings/paint and they're just bored, but they love the crap i produce. it's weird.

[Oblio]

OMG - retro??? u alive? dood... whre you've been?


(guys, girls - u rock btw)

:zzz:

[jetpack42]

retro- awesome dude. are you in school? that is ill.

nova- i think you did a spectacular job of capturing your face. i think you've also managed to capture a some of that self-image freakyness you seem to think you have, while retaining a little of the cuteness still too. really great effort. best one to date, methinks.

one2hit- cool man. take off the hat. hehe. good you are squeezing a little in AND sharing it with us...

ni*- i like it man. you are getting better control over the digital..ness..keep workin it dude, you're taking little baby steps. we all are. i can't give you much help though, i'm a traditional dude. :/

todays effort. several hours, uptilt to the left (but my nose tilts to the right..which made for a strange effect). always tomorrow.

http://www.mlentz.com/watts015.jpg

[steak-tron]

here's a quickie from the sketchbook, it looks like I've got something sour in my mouth...

http://www.kempart.com/Artwork%20popups/spoct2.jpg

Yoell: that's cuz I am whatever you say I am, If i wuzn't then why wuld I say I am...
oblio: great hatches, looks just like you.
sula_nebouxi: thanks dude, keep at it with that brown paper. :)
silvrain: great painting, I like the green skin tones
mindslyde: your head has merged with the board...
cotron: that's one of your best yet.
faB: great paints :)
one2hit: thanks, the light source was bad so I tried to do some manual adjusting, oh and I'm black :wink: great line work on those pages man.
Matt Smith: haha:tihi: beaten up or violated
Turokess: cool approach, i like the eye design
mindflaw: ooooohhhh IIII seeeeee, yeeeaaaaa........ that's a hard angle, cool sp.
JetpackMike: i love that one, you look seductively goth.... because you are right? the second one is well rendered too and the angle is tough but i think you left out like 90% of your jaw, leaving you with big crack-smoking cheek bones. You're not still on the rock are you? :wink:
Ni: great tones, looks solid
Ion: Great approach, you always come up with some cool sps, that bottom one makes me think I'm trippin' yo!
bhuddistmonk: look down on us will you... (joke):tihi:
Nova: wow, excellent work on this one, really intense eyes, it's one of my favorites fo' real.
retro: great pic, I like how you're defining everything with value

[jerO]

middle of crunch, barely time to paint, hopefully time to share more comments later... might finish this at some point and actually add glasses.
nose is wrong.
WPE IS HERE (http://www.valleydweller.com/netsketches/jerO_sp_10-29.jpg)
http://www.valleydweller.com/netsketches/jerO_sp_10-29.jpg \

[one2hit]

todays effort. several hours, uptilt to the left (but my nose tilts to the right..which made for a strange effect). always tomorrow.


nah, the nose is no big deal...the nose can be tilted around a bit and there shouldn't be a great deal of compromise lost in character. The nose is just flapping cartelidge, and it's not uncommon to see it off-center, especial with different facial expressions. I think the real problem area with the portrait lies in the placement of the eyes...it seems to me that normally there is a line that runs from the center of one pupil to the other that is perpendicular to the vertical center line of the face. Now....there isn't a great huge importance placed on drawing lines all over the face, you can just sence the balance the more you draw...anyway, that's what stood out to me the most.

http://home.comcast.net/~bissett5/watts015.jpg <---

http://www.mlentz.com/watts001.jpg btw this rooooooools!!! and the water color portrait is great! Totally looks like you...all you needed to do was spruce up the detail around the mouth area and you woulda been in great shape!

[nova]

i know it doesn't mean as much as commenting to each of you guys, but there's been not as much traffic, but instead some seriously good stuff going on lately.. and a lot of different styles and moods.


some comments for the posts from a few days ago :)


Ni* .. the minimal-ness is working well. the white you're using there is some crazy lighting..

bhuddistmonk ~ reading how you disregarded everything and did a portrait made me do the same thing, thanks :) good job on the hard angle

thanks nate.. portraits have lots of personality! good to see your drawings at all, haven't really seen them lately. really liking that crazy person in the back seat of that suv. my favorite part of these recent draings is the car next to the suv, above the stars and the KFC. nice lines

hey ion, another cold weater luvr.. rad. hehe, i wouldn't say so, i guess i get brooding when i'm staring at myself in the mirror.. and i like black. maybe it's because of all the seattle rain :) nice portraits by the way.. but you're especially mysterious, i don't have an idea what you actually look like :)

cutt3r ~ don't let it get you down guy.. it can be confusing i know but feedback is feedback, learn all you can from it! and from the sounds of it they really liked your stuff. the same thing happened to me the other week, i had put so much work into updating my portfolio, and the person looking at it told me his favorite piece was STILL the one i'd done a year ago [this guy's my mentor, has been teaching me stuff since about 2 years ago]. frustrated me a bit.. but gave me a hint for the future.

retro, that's pretty sweet. really been liking your portraits lately.. really like the fully-rendered stuff

jp ~ hey dude. a bunch of your recent stuff has been kicking some serious booty lately. this port is one of them. crazy, crazy. can't wait to see where you'll go next [and hopefully back to seattle too.. *sob*]

steaktron, this one out of all the ones [i can remember] looks the most like you. it's because of the eyes i think. love that crazy hatching you'd got going there. one thing.. try shading the white of eyes, it can make a big difference especially when you render the rest of the face like you did here

jerO.. great portrait.. really well done for a quickie! lots of confidence there


'nite everyone
~ l

[Mindflaw]

Nova: I really like this one :D I I have seen a darker and a slightly lighter version been looking at this thread from two diff. computers in the dark one I couldn't see the leafs but it was light enough to see where your hair stops and the bg starts, that one was cool it was like your head were coming out of the darkness and the face came more in focus than in the light one. The light one gave a slightly diff. feeling since I could see the leafs more of an autumn feeling. Both looked good but I don't know which one is displayed correctly.

steak-tron: thanks

jetpack42: eaht on2hit wrote

Ni*: it reminds me a little of I think they're called harlekin (?) well one of those white sad clowns. Yeah where is jook these days???? Has he turned in to a lurker??? ;)

cutt3er: Yeah people do have diff. taste and I think most of us also have tendency to look down on our own creations. I think one reason why he liked the one with the shaky lines is because you explored the line itself, just look at how the feeling in e.g stektron leatest sp and jetpack42 latest sp is and one of the main reason is that they have treated the lines themself differently.

Ion: The ion.eye was a cool detail... well integrated.

Keep going you all a new month is coming up thats crying out loud for some masterly sp:s

[Rkhon]

My sp for october, was real fun to make, and fast as you can tell.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Barroth/selfportraitoctober-BDH.jpg

*EDIT* omg i facked up, its november now!!!

[shadoman]

I know that these are not self-portraits, but they're part of me, so I am passing this by...

I carved a portrait of each of my 3 kids on their pumpkins this year.

Leia (7 years)
http://www.shawnadomanis.com/images/photos/10-30-2004/PumpkinLeia.jpg

Kade (4 years)
http://www.shawnadomanis.com/images/photos/10-30-2004/PumpkinKade.jpg

Jase (10 weeks)
http://www.shawnadomanis.com/images/photos/10-30-2004/PumpkinJase.jpg

Sorry for not being as active as I wanted to this past month, but I have been busy with work and on a 32'x24' oil painting. Thanks to all of the comments and great work to all.

Hope to see you all in November.

[runelore]

"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/AnthonyHarmon/anthony/5MINSP.jpg

5 Minute sketch I just did in color erase. I just wanted to see if my speed is improving at all, it seems to be a little bit.

Also Andrew, if you read this I just wanted to say thanks a lot for stopping by DigiPen last week and giving us some of your time. It was really great to see not only your work, but you in action. It got all of us jazzed on drawing again. I'm glad you mentioned the site, its a great collection of artists. Glad to a member.

Later days,

Anthony Harmon