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July 31st, 2002, 05:37 AM
I must say that losing this section was the most dissipointing of all. I do aplolgize to everyone who contributed, but life goes on, you guys see more than enough of me, i want to see what you look like, this is open to everyone, please post your self-portraits here in this thread. I hope to see some farmilar faces:) please post any of the past portraite that were lost in the crash as well. remember this is a gallery section and like before a picture is worth a thousand words so lets keep the chit chat to a bare minimum. lets get to it guys and gals:D
July 31st, 2002, 06:22 AM
done during, and the other a little bit after the board went down.
July 31st, 2002, 10:58 AM
WB everyone :-)
These are all watercolor, the first is 18x24.
This one is loosely inspired by my face -- I had to work from a photograph because of the position. Thought I'd throw it in here. It's part of a 9/11 mural that stands 6' x 4', the face itself measures 40x30'' I think.
July 31st, 2002, 12:20 PM
July 31st, 2002, 12:21 PM
Did a few while it was down...
-was feeling kinda down:
-Just trying out Impasto in Painter:
July 31st, 2002, 12:22 PM
July 31st, 2002, 03:16 PM
Hm... my style is just slightly different from that, but it is me...
July 31st, 2002, 04:11 PM
I have now created a sub-forum to Andrew's forum, and moved this thread there. You don't have to post your self portraits in this thread only now - you can create your own threads!
Guest self portrait gallery forum (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=22)
July 31st, 2002, 05:37 PM
July 31 4:00p.m.
July 31st, 2002, 11:16 PM
August 1st, 2002, 04:36 AM
August 1st, 2002, 03:19 PM
Aug 1 2:00 p.m.
August 2nd, 2002, 09:21 AM
Aug 2 8:00 a.m.
August 2nd, 2002, 07:53 PM
not sure if i can do these daily, but heres my contribution:
*yikes... looked in the mirror again after a few minutes and realized i mangled my face... hmm. at least i know what i did wrong. :o
August 3rd, 2002, 08:11 PM
Aug 3 6:45 p.m.
August 4th, 2002, 10:31 AM
five month ago
August 4th, 2002, 12:13 PM
Glad to see you all back!
August 4th, 2002, 07:45 PM
August 4th, 2002, 10:41 PM
Aug 4 9:30 p.m.
August 5th, 2002, 12:38 PM
Aug 5 11:30 a.m.
August 6th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Aug 6 6:30 p.m.
August 6th, 2002, 10:39 PM
Wizard of KOZ
August 7th, 2002, 07:17 AM
um I finaly gathered the courage to post a SP...I was having an awful day the other day...I was so angry and so depressed at the same time.
August 7th, 2002, 02:32 PM
Aug 7 1:00 p.m.
kinda gave up on this one...i was cooking it forever. may try another one later (grumbles)....
August 7th, 2002, 10:22 PM
in mathematic terms: '8 x 0 = 0' ...
August 8th, 2002, 03:49 AM
August 8th, 2002, 01:30 PM
Aug 8 12:00 p.m.
August 8th, 2002, 08:46 PM
August 8th, 2002, 09:50 PM
aug 9 part II
somewhere in my brain stem arose the insight that I can actually take that big mirror off the wall...
August 8th, 2002, 10:18 PM
Keyth I love that green one.. way cool.. reminds me of the movie poster for Frightners.. :)
S.P of today.
tride to paint shapes this time..
August 9th, 2002, 12:32 AM
August 9th, 2002, 03:15 AM
Inked original and digitally coloured versions
Remembered after drawing this threads on other art boards with self Gorillaz portraits. Will have to dig them up. @:-)
August 9th, 2002, 05:10 AM
August 9th, 2002, 07:17 PM
August 9th, 2002, 07:51 PM
August 9th, 2002, 08:55 PM
Aug 9 6:45 p.m.
August 9th, 2002, 10:48 PM
I like the concept of a self-portrait a day...good practice!
This one: pencil, photoshop.
Wizard of KOZ
August 10th, 2002, 08:41 AM
Vampires...gotta love em! :evilbat:
August 10th, 2002, 06:29 PM
Aug 10 5:45 p.m.
August 10th, 2002, 11:07 PM
Taking a break from animation homework...
August 10th, 2002, 11:44 PM
found a funny cap in the attic. it`s a bancroft! That attic is amazing, I`m sure one day I`ll find a tank or maybe an airplane if I keep digging around up there...
August 11th, 2002, 02:30 AM
Aug 11 1:30 a.m.
Wizard of KOZ
August 11th, 2002, 08:33 AM
August 11th, 2002, 06:29 PM
These are both quick (less than an hour), the first is oil on watercolor paper, the second is all digital.
August 12th, 2002, 12:45 PM
mn hnmg gnmm, nn mgbngg, gngn?
August 12th, 2002, 09:31 PM
Aug 12 8:30 p.m.
August 13th, 2002, 04:12 AM
Aug 13 3:00 a.m.
August 13th, 2002, 04:52 AM
first contribution to the self port thread... this is a quickie, and I did it a couple of weeks ago. I really want to get into the habit of this daily portrait thing. I think its an excellent practice.
August 13th, 2002, 09:56 PM
August 13th, 2002, 11:59 PM
wanted to try planes, then polygons...in the end things got mixed up into some undefinable pseudo-whatnot bogus
failed to draw the sketchbook under my drawing hand, think it ran away just in time, it`s a bit shy ya know
August 14th, 2002, 07:43 PM
August 14th, 2002, 09:34 PM
Aug 14 8:30 p.m.
August 15th, 2002, 11:12 AM
Aug 15 10:00 a.m.
August 15th, 2002, 05:55 PM
made these for Chad`s Tiki thread
August 15th, 2002, 08:37 PM
Oh my god keyth! You're an Oompa Loompa! :eek:
August 16th, 2002, 03:46 AM
Aug 16 2:45 a.m.
August 16th, 2002, 06:26 AM
Great choice of lighting and tones, keyth.
August 16th, 2002, 07:07 AM
Jezebel, you look cute :)
August 16th, 2002, 05:55 PM
an appletree among woodtrees, so to say
August 16th, 2002, 06:56 PM
hey, this thread is interesting. heres mine:
August 16th, 2002, 11:05 PM
my last post over here for a while. explanation @ the lounge.
(that thread were an obviously mentally deranged individual purports moving to san francisco)
August 17th, 2002, 03:36 AM
aug 16, lunchtime.
Wizard of KOZ
August 17th, 2002, 07:59 PM
I was listening to the Cure...the song lullaby when I did this one....
Well, I dunno what to say about this one....
August 18th, 2002, 09:51 PM
Aug 18 8:00 p.m.
August 19th, 2002, 02:36 PM
Aug 19 1:30 p.m.
August 20th, 2002, 10:32 AM
one very last one before I move...should be cleaning up and packing my bags n`stuff, but this forum is just so addictive!! :fruit:
August 20th, 2002, 02:27 PM
Always Bee boppin' and rockin' steady...
August 20th, 2002, 05:54 PM
I got the same mask as you jain ... guess I should try making a spod with that mask on, some day.
August 20th, 2002, 06:12 PM
Aug 20 5:00 p.m.
August 20th, 2002, 09:46 PM
Hadn't done one in a while figured Id give it a shot...
August 21st, 2002, 03:49 AM
Keyth, you've been working that eye... nice start :p
Soon I'll join this journey.
August 21st, 2002, 04:59 AM
Giving Andrews tutorial a try... I dunno .. different...
August 21st, 2002, 01:17 PM
Aug 21 12:00 p.m.
August 21st, 2002, 05:42 PM
Here I go as said.
Some comments will do good. Some tasks too (be gentle I'm a total newbie).
Keyth? Guys? Come'on I didn't mean to screw your forum. :D
August 21st, 2002, 07:26 PM
Thats a great portrait oblio. I really mean it, it has life behind the eyes, unless your head was tilted the jaw seems to be a litte out of alignment with the cheakbone, but its a tremendous start, keep it up oblio:thumbsup:
August 22nd, 2002, 02:40 AM
Dude Oblio you are mad improving.. I have been watching you since you started drawing your brother.. *claps* your learning curve is going..
There is definitly something behind your SP.. looking good...
Here is mine for today.. tried out a little open canvas with painter 7 tint tool...
August 22nd, 2002, 03:24 AM
You people realy can boost me up - I can't wait to get home and DRAW again! THANK YOU! (job time now)
And if i'm alowed, I'll try to speak my mind a little.
Deth J. - your last is better but you seem to overlook the basics. You may call it your style but I think you may want to try some other things.
Watch your proportions - your mouth is shorter on the right side. Also your nose seems a little "stif"? Your eyes look cartoon style.:(
Try to grab a Ink, Marker or Pencil Tool in painter and do your SP just an outline - no value at all. It helped me a lot.
Only a cold hard line. Your use of color is bilnding you i think. Sorry if I was too hard on you. If you want I'll never comment again.
I'll stand by for the next.
P.S. - Try that thing with the Pen (ink or a black marker) on paper. Get a lot of paper (A4 will do). The point is to draw lines that you will not be able to erase (NO UNDO). One day of those might do good. Sorry again. Keep it up!
August 22nd, 2002, 01:10 PM
Aug 22 12:00 p.m.
August 22nd, 2002, 05:40 PM
Hey Keyth, that's a nice one (try other brushes too - something harder) :doh:
Here is my seccond try - a little more work on this - monitor light only. Also take this as my first experiment with a crazy brush (Sargent Brush). It took some time to figure out what it does generaly and when I've found out it was too late - a lot of strokes were already crap :)
So... fire your feedback.
Android: My apologies for the lack of color - Never tried, Never learned.
What in the damn earth is Jason doing? I am stuck on lesson 4 and seems like I'm the only studen left. The grown-ups might be on the thunderdome, right? :)
P.S. - Don't forget the feedback... :jump1: :alien1:
August 23rd, 2002, 05:31 PM
I would like to work more on the yesterday one but who knows when I'll get the chance. Here goes today.
August 23rd, 2002, 07:16 PM
Aug 23 6:00 p.m.
August 24th, 2002, 06:17 PM
todays: about 40 mins..
August 24th, 2002, 06:34 PM
24 aug - 1:41 am (on 25)
Great colors Keyth.
I'm so pissed off i'll just go to sleep. Look what a horrible piece of crap i've done. Damn!
"Ah crap!" VGC - Tribes(Dynamix)
August 24th, 2002, 09:54 PM
Aug 24 8:15 p.m.
August 25th, 2002, 05:03 PM
What are you listening to?
Anyway, for today I've done two - is it ok?
Yess.. the hordes of Conceptart monsters are comming. Mwa Ha Ha Ha Ha
and unhappy with the upper freak i've tryed again:
August 25th, 2002, 07:12 PM
Aug 25 6:00 p.m.
August 26th, 2002, 09:30 AM
Not exactly keeping with this daily thing. Here's my latest batch.
From a photo of me in my fat days. Mood: kinda ooky.
To hell with clean living, and smoked pot with strangers and a bandmate at 3 am. this, of course, was done in the aftermath.
Celebrating my newly shaved head.
August 26th, 2002, 05:09 PM
Except for the fact that this is my 5-th try (at least) everything went... DAMN HARD! :)
So... if we forget the fact that it is unfinished, we start asuming that it will improve my next SP's "front view" - right?
Too bad I don't drink anymore - I would rest my head in a barell with wine. Beer would do too :beer:
I'm... let's say TIRED! :xx:
I guess i have problems with the start of a picture. Andrew's 7 steps tutorial was a blessing for me - focus on the eyes and let go. On this one.. it didn't worked. :(
August 26th, 2002, 05:47 PM
oblio: still improving man, these are getting better every time i see them. keep it up ;)
snowfly: you really shaved your head?!
August 26th, 2002, 10:30 PM
August 27th, 2002, 12:55 AM
Keyth - solid portrait man:) great use of color variation, it really helps my eyes move across your forms
snowfly- very expressive stuff, i admire your freedom and variation . the out of focus one you did a while back was suburb.
death jester- try concentration on a more realistic intrepretations of your eyes. your eyes are alwasy the most powerfull aspect of your sp's nut i would like to see you apply a more realistic aproach atempted.
killing.people. glad to see you back, your portrait shed alot of light on the enigma that is Killing.Peolpe. if the edges of your head were also slightly blurred than it would help turn your form and bring the shape of the face .all your facial marks are so crisp compared to the background that it flattenes the image.
Olbio- your progress is stunning- for your next portrait, look straight in the mirror and start with your eyes, dont draw anything else until your portrait stares back at you straight in the eyes. then work outward from the eyes, to the eyegrows, then the nose , lips . establish those relationships first, after that is done, define define the sioulete of your hair and ahspe of the face, ears and neck, while working base each stroke keeping in mind its relationship with your eyes, good luck.
thanks everyone keep it up:chug:
August 27th, 2002, 01:25 AM
Aug 26 midnight
August 27th, 2002, 02:54 AM
when i saw your port. from aug, 24th yesterday, i was a bit surprised, did the same thing on the weekend (though on sunday), when i was in real anger... thanks for your regular portraits, they really help me through the day ;)
some more whackish
forgive me for the colors, i'm a noob.
August 27th, 2002, 05:00 PM
I enjoyed rotro's sketches and thought to give myself a try too. Unfortunately you all can see now that my skill is shit!:cry:
and another eyes try:
Sorry... I'll give it another go later when I'll catch retro's groove.
August 27th, 2002, 05:53 PM
I couldn't go to sleep like that. So i've tried my comeback. Got some paper an a liner and.. failed again.
Must sleep now.
August 27th, 2002, 06:16 PM
Aug 27 5:00 p.m.
August 27th, 2002, 10:00 PM
Keyth, I have a new favorite.oh mann thats creppy and beautifull at the same time, please enlighten us on your techniwue, I see some of painters 7 water dynamic engine at work,.
Oblio-keep at it, we are starting to see eye to eye arent we?
do one more in the same manner and I will give you a new assignment tomorrow,
retro, the third portrait is so money. it has a francis bacon type feel, I will not forgive your colors, they rule! your simple palet conveys alot of emotion and angst.
keep at it.
my home internet is still broke so no update tonight but I will see what I can mannage tomorrow
August 28th, 2002, 01:39 AM
very inspiring. my first:
August 28th, 2002, 02:43 AM
first 2 i painted in a hurry, tried to cry in front of the mirror, but didn't succeed. when i scanned them shortly before midnight i got so frustrated i had to draw another one, this time without contact lenses, cause my left eye hurt all day like #&%! hopefully this day works out better...
August 28th, 2002, 11:27 AM
Hmmm, I kinda feel like I should join in. I've started doing selfportraits about a month ago.
August 28th, 2002, 02:09 PM
well, what can i say? you do something kinda cool one day and the next day(today) you get a little frustrated and make yourself look like an alien grandpa. he he.
Andrew, thanks again! Technique?...are you serious? I'm still trying to obtain one. I had a lot of fun w/yesterday's. I turned off my brain(which usually gets me into trouble) and just went at it. I was tap dancing between the digiairbrush, eraser wet, and eraser diffuse using the watercolor profile brush the entire time. I maintained schizo-hand movements everywhere except the hair(or whatever it is).....tight frantic little circles over the whole thing. i haven't really used layers much but i used about 3 on this one. Then i did some underpainting w/subtle oranges and pinks on layers below...threw a little purple here and there. it took less than an hour which, for me, is lightning fast.
Andrew once again, i would like to thank you. your thread and this site is changing the way i go about things on a daily basis. i have learned so much in the last two months. i wonder how much i will learn in the next two decades.;)
hopefully more will come and take on daily works.
Aug 28 12:00 p.m. fu$%ing yuck!
August 28th, 2002, 05:33 PM
wow, lots of really impressive stuff! keyth, your getting "andrewesque" :)
thought i'd give it a try, it's my first SP ever. the jpg compression kinda stretched it horizontal.it's nor that fat on paper. and i look like a mix of me and my (8 years older) brother on that one. :D
August 28th, 2002, 06:29 PM
I find it difficult to transition between hues. I also probably don't push the values enough. Any tips appreciated.
August 28th, 2002, 07:26 PM
Don't get scared about those ones. OK? Thx.
This goes to retro (i had to try your style again! - this time - pencil. I'm out of range compared to yours but... one day, one day I'll get there).
The colored version goes to Keyth (inspiring those days you are, mister!) Blame me not for jokeing with colors. You know my background!
And one for Andrew too. Sorry boss, you get the ugly one.:eek:
I've realized it's a deformed drawing in the last minutes - way too late now. Must... i should... I will not buy this reccord - it is scratched :)
Oblio Out :xx:
August 28th, 2002, 07:54 PM
Oblio- marvelous work :clapping2 :clapping1 :p
( know your fond of the emotions)
your eyes stare right through me, I cant belive how fast you are learning, your ready for your next assignment.
you learned how to look yourself in the eyes on the last one now I want you to look through your skin,
I want you to draw a self portrait of your own skull and include the eyes as well. you should use refrence for guidance but dont copy, feel you cheekbones eyesockets and jaw with your hands and translate that information into the drawing, if you have a 3d skull to help you it will be allowed allowed, I use a museum quality plaster cast skull to help me, I have had it since I was 12. I dont know maby in romania real skulls are easier to find than they are here. this lesson will help you better understand the form and underlking structure of the face, once you become comfortable with that than all facial drawings you make will become easier.
August 29th, 2002, 02:48 AM
this one goes for keyth:
sorry my headphones aint as big as yours (but mine gotta mic. ;))
another quick and dirty, ever tried watercolour on glossy paper ? lol
perhaps i should try to really paint one - or get a wacom . - sigh -
@oblio: you might try doing the right or the left half of your head. i did this when i first started selfport and it helps a bit, cause you dont have to watch symmetry so much, which is the most difficult in drawing portrait - at least for me(former teacher of me said - if you can get done one half of a port, everybody will believe you can do the other aswell ;))
August 29th, 2002, 02:55 AM
By the head of my boss - I WILL get a skull. Unfortunately I'm not sure I'll find one until tonight but I'll surely search for it.
Retro - I'll get myself some ink tools first.
Any idea where I could get an idiot's skull to look like me? No, mine will not server the purpose right now. :scared: :chainsaw:
August 29th, 2002, 03:19 AM
oblio, go to a school and ask there. i often went there to sketch skeletons and skulls. they usually have some for biology classes... perhaps you know somebody there or somethin...
August 29th, 2002, 03:54 PM
ob: i'll send you mine. i don't need it anymore.
retro: every one of your lines has power in it. i'm into man.
keep'em comin' folks!!:chug:
Aug 29 2:30 p.m.
August 29th, 2002, 04:43 PM
Keyths loyalty and dedication to this thread have been orerwhelming. and as of last night I have decided to promote mr Bee bob rock steady to be the new official moderator of the guest self-portrait gallery.
as you can see from his most recent portrait hes allready looking down at yall.:) hehe
I have also reconsidered my stance on keeping this thread free of comments, it was my initial idea to have the work speak for itself but the feedback people have been giving has proved to be too valuable, so now I would like to encourage everyone to participate with more feedback, but watch out keyth will be here to keep you in line,
Congrats agian to Keyth for the well deserved status upgrade:chug:
August 29th, 2002, 04:51 PM
COOL! I feel all warm inside. thanks andrew. i gleefully accept of course. i have sent you a couple of PM's recently....not sure if you got em. one was about the possible fluke of me becoming a moderator. the other was of a different nature that i would still like to contact you about. anyways, i never said much here b/c of the introductory statement. i would PM people of course. anyways YES!! let's all paint, learn, and help each other out.
keep 'em coming :chug:
AND THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2002, 06:43 PM
:chug: Congrates Keyth!
First the retro half-baked portrait (I feel like Iím cheating here)
Colored version for Big Boss Rock Steady ;)
I'm playing with color to loose my fear from it. Basicaly I'm not allowed yet - I have no ideea about color theory and such, but I'm working in secret here :)
And Hamlet memories for Andrew.
What a mess. This was done while researching my skull with my fingers. I tried to find out forms of pure skull holding fingers on my face and moving my jaw to see what moves underneath and what does not.
I've proceeded then to this:
I think I have a LONG way ahead with the Skull. (no reference used for these - just what I remembered - but i tryed to avoid my old knowledge and go with what I see under)
Keyth - are you serious with that? Would you take that trouble??
August 29th, 2002, 07:16 PM
ob: thanks man!!!!:D
i noticed you said you are playing with color in order to get over your fear of it. i praise that action. fears are meant to be stomped into the ground(more come up of course...but then you get to practice stomping them in the ground some more). i like what you did w/that drawing. your last drawing w/the orange skull rocks. like andrew said your progress is stunning:)
are you serious with that? Would you take that trouble??
:confused: uh-oh....there's work involved?:D
August 30th, 2002, 03:08 AM
first attempts color only.
congratulations keyth, ever got promoted that fast? :chug:
August 30th, 2002, 05:28 AM
an old one..
slightly old.. caricature-ish
these are from photo ref.. i only got a big mirror in the bathroom, the one that stuck to the wall type of thing..
anyway.. i should get a smaller mirror and do one selfpotrait everyday :D
August 30th, 2002, 08:15 AM
:beer: sense beer is flowing like wine around here ...
ps: congrats, next sp will be with my headphones on in tribute.
August 30th, 2002, 06:25 PM
(used a little photo reference for this skull - not copyed - just reference.
What should I look for when atempting to draw my skull? Thx.
August 30th, 2002, 10:06 PM
Aug 30 9:00 p.m.
August 31st, 2002, 04:48 AM
August 31st, 2002, 12:43 PM
August 31st, 2002, 05:55 PM
August 31st, 2002, 07:42 PM
August 31st, 2002, 08:13 PM
oblio- keep at it, once you get a skull, make multiple studies off it. I remember when I was 9 or 10 years I devoted myself to being able to draw the profile of the skull from memory. I took hundreds of drawings before I began to really learn it and thousands from that point to where I am now and I STILL need to study it more, one of my mentors the great master Elvi Davis, spent his childhood art prodigy years in the basement of an east coast medical school there all he did was draw every bone in the human body from life, at any possible angles and memorize its form. he always talked about how the other children his age would be playing in the sun during summer and he was held prisoner scribling countless renderings of the scapula, but now he is in his late forties and he is the only human being that can draw with total acuracy and confidence any bone in the human body from any perspective with only his memory. so basicly be patient you are improving at an incredibal rate but it takes alot of work.
taft- your drawings seem to be coming together and feeling more complete, the last one is very powerfull, but you could have added so much more if you were to have truly looked yourself in the eyes. if you are experimenting with different rendering techniques try making every mark follow the form and planes of the head, it will help add more depth.
killing. -very unique, it is kind of impressionistic, the likness is very vauge and with more rendering especialy along major edges it could take more shape, also varying the sizes of stars that are in the foreground the center of the face and the background could increase the depth
Generic Disclamer- everyone works diferently, I would not necisiarly encourage anyone to rework a self-portrait, when they are done they are a finished relfection of you. I feel akward when I rework my own. I usualy lose my conection when ever I stop and when I go back later it feels diferent and anyalitical, rather that the energy and life it had when I started, any advice I give is usualy aimed at your next possible fresh attempt.
August 31st, 2002, 08:44 PM
Aug 31 7:30 p.m.
September 1st, 2002, 08:07 AM
I just got myself today a pen...(Photoshop crap added later)
and a marker...
but seing those new sp's of you made me feel sick of what i've done - so, I'll go back for some more! Dammit!
September 1st, 2002, 08:19 AM
thanks for the critique. i was going for something different, i wanted to do a portrait but i felt kind of out of it. i'd like to try another like it, keeping heed of advice.*ricka fracka* :mumble:
Oblio: you say its crap but, in my opinon -- you are making noticeable progress, i like the pen portrait -- under the digital.
September 1st, 2002, 01:10 PM
yo ob! the pen side of that first drawing almost has a comic book feel to it. i'd like to see the whole pen drawing if you got it.
September 1st, 2002, 03:23 PM
Sept 1 1:30 p.m.
September 1st, 2002, 05:53 PM
calm down - It's still crap - I love the pen i've just got (i've filed up some pages with all kind of little sketches - math classes hi-school style :D ) but that portrait is still about all it is.
And it eludes the asignement too.
The one for toay is made at short time - frustration rage.
(mad on the marker failure)
I need some skull reference quick - I don't plan on failing those asinements too long :bash:
Thx for feedback guys!!!!!
September 2nd, 2002, 02:33 AM
shit from saturday
even more shit from sunday
i'm really unhappy with the past 2 days work.
keyth: aug 31.st is my new favorite :chug:
September 2nd, 2002, 02:44 AM
retro002: dude! i love your stuff, what are you talking about?
if you are getting frusterated try a new aproach. try a different medium, or draw your whole head -- like tackle a portrait differently then your normal way, i wouldnt mind seeing a portrait with your entire head anyway.
September 2nd, 2002, 02:57 AM
thats what's my problem. i'm tryin new stuff extensively in the past week, but always doesnt work out as i like it. got too many problems with contrast/colors, also not every portrait looks like i do, which makes me crazy (have painted a couple of portraits in my life, think i somehow should be able to get it right, huh?). problem is, i tend to do the same every time. saw a portrait painter in my city yesterday, he did a quite different approach on the face, ah... don't know - would like to do sth completely different one every day, but somehow it always looks the same... maybe give it some more tries..
September 2nd, 2002, 02:57 AM
ok dudes. i have a statement to make. i don't mean to sound a certain way but....if i have learned one thing in this life, it's to think positive.
ob: your dedication to learning kicks a$$. and to call one of your drawings crap doesn't make sense at all because you have improved sssoooooo much. if i make it to RO, i'm looking you up.
retro: saying your work is shit baffles me just as much because your line work is so precise it seems as though your eye and hand are romping about in the hay just going at it. i love it!
all i'm saying is be PROUD of your drawings. i crank out some doo doo too(geez look at my last one!). but in every doo doo drawing/painting there is something there that is getting you to where you want to be.
:chug: more, more, more
September 2nd, 2002, 05:21 AM
retro what kinds of pens are you using to make those lines?
September 2nd, 2002, 08:01 AM
cheapest stuff: common ink pen, edding 404 (works cool on glossy paper), pencils b - 7b, etc... doesnt really matter.
September 2nd, 2002, 08:12 AM
wow Retro002 I totally dig your stuff ! Great linework, and very creative, too !
Reminds me a bit of Horst Janssen, one of the greatest drawers Germany ever had, check his stuff if you don't know it yet. :)
September 2nd, 2002, 08:32 AM
lol, horst jannsen is one of my favorites, but since i saw a book of his works some weeks ago, i dont like him anymore that much, cause he seems a bit too pervert for my taste. vielleicht kennst du aber holger spšth, der ist nich so bekannt, kommt hier ausm norden macht auch sehr geile zeichnungen -> son bischen kritzelstyle :))
September 2nd, 2002, 04:31 PM
My name is Oblio and I think I'm a Drawohoolic...
Today i've bought my first sketch book (ever).
And the first page is dedicated to you all (special thx to Jason, Andrew and Coro for giving me the courage and anger to start this) and more thanks to Keyth, retro and ALL of you for the support - you make me draw every day and i think you know how good it feels!
I hope that this sketchbook will make me proud one day.
Tribute to conceptart.org
http://users.pcnet.ro/oblio8/2sept.jpg http://users.pcnet.ro/oblio8/2septb.jpg (color bla bla)
September 2nd, 2002, 05:23 PM
I second that! here, here:chug:
looky there! check out Obman with the color peice! keep it up dawg.
yo! andrew. you been gett'n my PM's g?
September 2nd, 2002, 06:29 PM
Sept 2 5:00 p.m.
September 3rd, 2002, 12:14 AM
wtg - the eyes are gorgeous.
September 3rd, 2002, 02:33 AM
September 3rd, 2002, 03:32 PM
Sept 3 3:00 p.m.
September 3rd, 2002, 04:18 PM
thanks a lot Andrew - I still have a lot of problems with creating depth in my portraits.
Todays portait didn't turn out well. I planned on concentrating in the planes, but it didn't work out. The lighting wasn't very good, and I got distracted by the tv running in the other room, and my girlfreind asking me several questions while I tried to do the portrait.
Well, onto the next one, tomorrow! :D
September 3rd, 2002, 05:45 PM
I NEED help here!
Hey, Andrew - I can take more then one task at the time - the whale is under construction but my brand new sketchbook and those portraits are asking for directions.;) THANK YOU!
September 3rd, 2002, 09:19 PM
Cool color harmony, Oblio.
September 3rd, 2002, 10:39 PM
ob, you rock!!!!:chug: i like that one a lot. i sense something behind it. good job. if i were to say anything constructive about it....i would say the front plane of the face reads a little flat. not flat like "dull". but flat like a plane. only my 2 cents. hey were all learning after all. i don't really know but it seems as though you may be able to shave off a bit on your right side of your face(not literally...ha).
i hear you man. i just started taking on sketchbooking a day. hung out at the blueline station for a couple of hours today. got some sun. mmmmmm....photosynthesis. drew some people. realized i need to sketch A LOT:eek:
so ob. what are your feelings towards doing this everyday? kind of an interesting experience wouldn't you say. one of the things i think is most interesting is the fact that we are staring at ourselves for, potentially, hours everyday. kinda weird huh?
taft: i'm no andrew, but i would recommend looking abit more...it just seems as though some proportions are off a bit.
littlejohn: i checked out your site. nice stuff. it would be cool to see a detailed SP. keep'em comin'.
EVERYBODY KEEP'EM COMIN' DAMMIT:chug:
September 4th, 2002, 02:36 AM
this was a quick shot, obviously didn't work out. wanted to do sth different, but the new inky seems to be not as water soluble as its predecessor...
i am still in need for pens with ctrl+z :(
September 4th, 2002, 03:49 AM
flat - yes... you are perfectly right - even that I was working on it knowing that is a bit flat now it seems too flat. Do I make any sense?
Anyway - I need to work more the values.
As it comes to my daily experience - what can I say - I managed to get a very rigorous program since I'm usually doing a LOT of stuff during the day - and thx to my girlfriend everything came out into a structured day - she is somehow the glue to everything without even knowing it.
But my time with the mirror is the time I was looking for all my life. When I was a kid my parents wouldn't let me stare and make funny faces in the mirror for too long. After that, going trough Theater and Film Acad. placed more value on the mirror - but again, the mentors didn't allowed this too much.
Now, it is the time when i am only with myself, without any daily projects on my mind and i open up like a baby knowing that my back is secured (again this is a tribute to my girlfriend) :hearts:
For the sketch - I'll post soon some more. ;)
Retro - man, i love your lines but i hate to see just half of you every time! Put more work on it please! DAMN!
littlejohn - detail! detail! (keyth is right - WE want to seem more )
Take good care and Keep it up!
P.S. - You DO prepare for thunderdome - right?
September 4th, 2002, 05:52 AM
This went many different ways before the final product, many of the ways not working together. But, I'm content overall.
September 4th, 2002, 10:27 AM
i am just so proud of keyth :p
retro: you sure do produce a lot of work!
September 4th, 2002, 11:41 AM
my name is taff - double f :D
yeah, you're right with that keyth, was quite unconcentrated yesterday. :)
September 4th, 2002, 05:14 PM
oops! sorry tafF:chug:
Sept 4 4:00 p.m.
September 4th, 2002, 07:27 PM
keyth & Oblio: Thanks for the feedback. Lack of detail a common criticism about my work. I'll keep trying.
September 4th, 2002, 08:14 PM
when i say "more detail"...that is only if you want to:D mmmmm. this one rocks. i love that red under your cheek. nice.
September 5th, 2002, 02:36 AM
whoa, at the moment i really got an awful load of shit to do, had to do these 2 with artficial light (which i hate so much)
first one is for oblio
keyth: concerning your last spod, i wonder if you are into takin drugz and shit...?! ;)
September 5th, 2002, 03:37 AM
Oh.. thank you sir.
It seems like we're melting the SPOD's here.
I really like your second - last night I've been in the office until 4am (big Nokia event in the weekend (Paris) - 30 000 people expected so we had to finish our game).
At about 2 am I was berserk - I needed my sp - so I went in the elevator (for a mirror) and did this in my sketch book:
It's your style and for me feels like your second too :D
borders added in photoshop. made grayscale for size.
Andrew - I've been looking for all kind of virtual skulls (to follow the tasks as much as I can until I get a real one). Are they any good?
I almost got all the photos for the whale - hopefully I'll get it done tonight!
Long live the concepartorgians!
September 5th, 2002, 05:12 PM
retro - you even did one on cardboard! Did you run out of brown paper, or do you like the borads? :)
oblio - in the elevator? wahahaa.. thas great! :D
September 5th, 2002, 05:27 PM
taff: personally i think retro just ordered a pizza and decided to draw on the box. this is definitely your best one taff:waves:
nice nose, and your eyes look much better:chug: looks as though you were able to concentrate today eh?
cheers everyone keep'em com'n.
Sept 5 4:00 p.m.
September 5th, 2002, 05:57 PM
Late at the office again - fortunately i've managed to get home earlier and had the time for a quick one. (~20 minutes)
This is my first attempt to understand value - not just to copy. Thx. go to KChun, mcotie and Jason Manley. (they've been postin for some other people and got me started to this value thing)
Now - you all seem more experienced then me - is this any good? I always look for something new in every SP - i hope they don't look too much alike (maybe i should move the mirror)
[extra] - i've made a little update to 3sept - i don't usualy comback to SP's (see Andrew's disclamer ;)) but i couldn't rezist - it was not me :)
Heh - that elevator looks better then my room (witch is a mess :D) I've tried a different hatch there - noone seems to notice so i take it's not too hot :)
Keep it up!
September 6th, 2002, 03:44 AM
here my recent stuff:
my girlfriend will be away for a week and a half so hopefully i gonna do some color in the next days
@taff: lol - i never used brownish paper, was all cardboard... i prefer using cheapest stuff. why waste money on pens and paper, dont make better pieces jus cause of better paper. everything i normally use is scrap paper. some i find on the street, some in garbage cans, other is backside of old calendars etc.
@oblio: keep up the good work! :thumbsup: btw: where you from?
@keyth: bought a graphire yesterday, should arrive sometime next week... hope i can handle digital paint :)
last spod rocks def., though you look really mean. anythin upset you?
September 6th, 2002, 04:13 AM
First time for me here, and I'm already impressed by what people here are able to do with their hands and brains... So many fabulous lines, sensitivity... WOW !
I may be the worst drawer in the place, but I feel good posting anyway :)
So here is a self-portrait done in 5 min with a numeric picture reference.
I'll try to post new images, as I try to draw almost regularaly.
So here it is :
And here was the reference :
See you soon people !
September 6th, 2002, 04:40 AM
September 6th, 2002, 07:32 PM
retro: that seccond is superbe - how do you get those clean and nice lines? We are starting to draw expresions now, right? Very cool! I'm from Romania... yes that far! You?
toma: welcome - it's a realy great start. don't try too hard to make it look alike - i like more the way you did the jacket - your line is free there. Next, try to simplify form - a lowpoly approach. Ah.. and btw - buy a mirror ;)
brain - watercolors and pencils eh? Cool! One day i'll go for it too. This one seems a little flat. Oh and your skin.. is black :D
This one goes to Manley (remember the first task - self portrait with one light from above?
I've tried again today after mounting a chair over 3 big boxes to fix my spot above my head - it went a 3/4 lighting but as i remember 3/4 is ok.)
Also this is for Andrew - i've used only 5 values and dry ink.
What am I saying? - EVERY SP I DO IS DEDICATED TO ANDREW! PERIOD!
Here i have some quick ones - sketchbook files :) - El coro tribute!
September 7th, 2002, 12:51 AM
oh boy. schools over in two weeks.:chug: kinda rushed today's....a little on the yuck side...oh well. mega busy lately:bash:
retro: thanks for the comment on yesterdays:D i enjoyed it a lot. didn't zoom in or zoom out....just kept the canvas the same size. not too angry though....felt a little sick, first spod attempts weren't working....so...a little frustrated.
what's up toma and brian?:chug: keep em com'n!!!
yo ob: what do you think is next for you after you do more tonal studies? ever tried prismacolor pencils or anything? i've been thinking about some different media lately after checking out coro's demo. i just noticed you said in one of your posts that "maybe i should move the mirror". that's what i would do if i were you. i think about bolting mine in the ceiling corner sometimes....can't though...about to move. try pulling back a bit and getting your neck and shoulders in. that may be fun huh?
anybody here comes to chicago, let me know...well hook up.
Sept 6 6:00 p.m.
September 7th, 2002, 03:49 AM
Ob: Yeah, I noticed that too. @;-) I was trying out el coro's method, but when I grabbed my watercolour set, most had dried up. I then mixed a colour without really paying attention (my mind was elsewheres) and laid it down before realising it wasn't the colour I wanted. So instead of screwing it up and starting again, I just went with it. Then I found a set of watercolour pencils, which I used for highlights and such.
My next attempt at this should be a tad better. *grins*
September 7th, 2002, 04:21 AM
i feel like wandering through a mental wasteland...
@oblio: northern germany. often i draw holding the pen at the end, my hand not touching the paper
@keyth: yip, know that problem...
September 7th, 2002, 07:00 AM
@Keyth - AFTER more tonal work (it seems like i still need a lot, I was thinking to do another round of basics (low-poly, form & Shape, pencil, charcoal) and then.. watercolors. Real ones not painter. I love retro's splashes! I want to try that. We can't find Prismacolor pencils here- I think are US only. I could order them from the net but... i wonder if some watercolor pens would do me any good first - I can find some Koh-I-Nor ones around. Anyway, I've entered a painting shop today and I was looking like a stupid - tons of brushes and stuff I don't know the use of. I've asked about kamei brush? They didn't ever heard about. Any refill brush? No. Prismacolor? Never heard. Then to give my final strike and let them feel stupid ('cose anyway I was the dumb one there) - i've asked - Electric razors? WHAT? :)
So I was just looking for a sketchbook where the paper stays - the one i got doesn't keep the pages strong - even that is canson - bautiful (expensive) paper.
Bottom line - i think Iíll just hang on in painter for a while and do basics.
I have some info about a skull. I also plan to get a bigger waccom (i have a very small one). I'm playing with a marker and a pen in my sketchbook - see results above.
I really donít know if i should move further (on colors, brushes and so) or keep working my basics.
I'll let Andrew and Jason to decide if I should move on or not. They are my masters, Iíll obey!
@retro - I will try that - not to touch the paper with my hand. How big is your paper? Do you have a painting horse? I've just seen one and thought I should have one if Iíve got into this but for now it doesnít make much sense since I draw on A3 canson.
Germany - last time there I've entered Stuttgart and I couldn't find the exit back. Crazy city - and no one speaking English. Some girls show me the way and I could get back on highway. Freaky... :)
@Andrew - if you see this - tell me what you think. Thx.
September 7th, 2002, 05:51 PM
September 7th, 2002, 07:10 PM
TAFF - that one is GREAT!!!! That's it - tomorow I'll make a pencil approach!
@keyth - I was talking to my girlfriend about how you've got your name (Bee Bop Rock Steady) from those headphones. (she never reads this or comes near the computer :) ) And she said - maybe he's hiding his ears :D Do you?
September 7th, 2002, 07:32 PM
Oblio- wow that last one with the under lighting is so powerfull, your eyes are so strong, great work. I love the life and gesture you have going but the more time you spend on them the more you will learn.
retro, I worry that you are becoming too comfortable with the 1/2 face style you have developed, and my fear is that you are not looking close enough at yourself. try a 3/4 angle and when you look at the mirror, forget who you think you are, and who you were, concentrate on exactealy what you are right at that very moment, like you are looking into the eyes of a stranger for the first time, is you do this your work will grow with you.
taft - next time you draw your eyes pay close attention to the negative white shapes, define those first and let those shapes designate where the puplis lie, in the last one the eye on the left is a little too close.
great stuff guys
September 7th, 2002, 09:32 PM
hey guys.:) i've been having some fun with just keeping the canvas one size and going at it. if some of you are zoom-inners and zoom-outers, i recommend it.
hey taff, i noticed what andrew said as well. the entire white part of the eye is never all white(hell, eyes aren't white anyways:p ) when defining the eye also pay attention to the fact that it's a sphere. stare at that eyeball for a while and you will notice there are more dark places than you think.
ob, you have a good eye for things people usually do wrong when picking up the pencil. for example you handle the shape of the nose well and the area around the eyes. there are people at my school that have been drawing for years and still don't realize things like that. it will be interesting to see how you progress after a year:eek: there was a stupid)but funny) debate going on for a while about my bee bop name. i thought it was b/c i was always bee bop'n(listening to headphones) and was rock steady as in doing a daily SP. then i found out in a thread in the lounge that bee bop and rock steady were ninja turtle characters. also in that same thread someone else said bee bop and rock steady were old school breakdancers....this one is WAY cooler! i still don't know the answer....ANDREW!!!!
retro, once again the master has spoken. andrew has such a good point. i know you said a teacher said if you can draw one side of your face, you can draw the other. but it's much more difficult to draw the whole face. therefore it's a much greater challenge and better for you.
hey andrew where are my critiques dawg?:( why are those other guys so special? sniff, sniff.
also i think it would be cool if we all got a bit more critiqu-ish. i mean, i'm here to learn. anybody object?
DAMN I'M TALK'N TOO MUCH
sept 7 8:00 p.m.
September 7th, 2002, 09:38 PM
hey taff, check it out. andrew made the same mistake i did...he said taft.:D :) ;) :p :eek: :cool: :o :chug:
September 8th, 2002, 06:51 AM
I wonder - will taff change his nick or he'll made us praise his actual name :D
@keyth - I've just had a word from mcotie - he's 34 and started this drawing think seriously only 2 years ago. I have no idea if after an year i'll have the same level as today or if Iíll ever come close to a "good artist" but for sure i'll try to make the best of me, and if you will keep supporting me as you did there is NO STOP for me :D (Thx again all)
That was about your ears my friend, Iíve seen the "ninja turtle thread" :)
CRITS? I SURELY NEED AND EVEN THAT I'M JUST A NEWBIE I TRY TO FILL SOME FOR THE OTHERS. FEEDBACK IS ALWAYS GOOD - I LIKE TO THINK THAT MANLEY HIMSELF WOULDN'T FEEL BAD FOR ANY CRITS - EVEN FROM A SPUPID LIKE ME - I'M JUST A WATCHER AFTER ALL. Feedback is good. So donít complain about talking too much - where did this came from - an artist should paint and do no talking? I can hold a national speech ANYTIME :)
So... (My name is Andrei too (Andrew if you like) may I crit?)
6- sept - looks like your headphones are rotated off your ears! Also (even that i like the rendering) you look old.
7-sept - I love that orange light from your elbow - under your right hand. Also i see that you go for cold/warm color (blue/orange) and you made it really nice. I'll have to try that too!
@Andrew - I read your message like - keep practicing the B&W - no color yet for you. How about a painting horse? Do I need one now or... it can wait a little? As for the sketches... Iíll show you something soon - ok?
September 8th, 2002, 07:45 AM
andrew - thamk you for pointing the negative white shapes. I'll try to focus more on the eye being a sphere. Of course I know about it in theory, but I haven't concentrated closely on it, yet. Thaks goes out to keyth, too.
keyth - hey, I really like your last portrait. I think it's really intresting, how including parts of the body completely changes the feeling of the whole portrait. It gives the portrait a whole new world to be discovered!
ob - Thanks a lot, yeah try out pencils!! I am looking forward to see your portrait done with pencil!
taft... it's taff like tough!! :chug:
September 8th, 2002, 03:38 PM
thanks taff:D :D :D
ob: if you scroll back on some earlier SP's, you will see a few paintings where i have no headphones on. i'm a music freak.
Sept 8 2:00 p.m.
September 8th, 2002, 03:50 PM
Great work all:D I have been checking this thread every day and it is very interesting to see how everyone progresses. The progress that I have seen Oblio make is amazing. :eek:
I am also wondering if keyth ever wears clothes or if he is a nudist.:moon:
I will keep watching and someday when i get a wacom and a mirror I will join in.
keep the spod's comin'
September 8th, 2002, 04:03 PM
naw:p i'm always wearing some shorts. i have no AC and it's hot in here.;)
September 8th, 2002, 07:15 PM
Thx. Nate - I realy feel stupid and i feel like there is so much around me that I'll never get the chance to learn right. So many techniques, so much unknown, so great artists all around, many of them hard to understand the depths of.
I'm doing my best but it's so far from what I would like to do and and from what I should do. I only draw after I get back from job and now, it's Monday, 02:02 AM and I'm still in the office. (all weekend here too - except last night)
Don't worry Taff, that pencil sp is done already - yes, back in the elevator (good mirror and light there;) )
When I think of what Manley said - how manny hours i should spend on this I think i'll never make it - but you keep pushing me and I'll see what God has in store for me. Thx. again!
@keyth - How hot could it be in chicago? In Alice McBeal (as far as I remember that episode) is alwais x-mass! :)
Oh that reminds me - I have to post something in the lounge - freekstuff :D
Ugh - I need some sleep but the version isn't ready yet - and it has to be done by moring! Lucky me - there are download times and I can scrible some lines or browse around!
September 8th, 2002, 11:22 PM
I'll try and add a little C&C.
keyth: I really like the half-portraits. Makes me want to try one. Sometimes I wish I could see more color in your pieces. But you push values around so well.
Oblio: That "bottom light" one is really powerfull. Nice work. Very direct.
Here's mine after a few days off:
September 9th, 2002, 02:50 AM
had a dirty weekend. i feel sick
the second is missing cause of crc on disk :(
you guys are prob right about doing half portraits. quoting my (ex-)teacher was not meant to encourage anybody do only half portraits, but merely sth thats still on my mind. gonna do some full ports next time
@ob: what is a painting horse? (perhaps iz just i dont know the word) i usually like to use an easel for its more comfortable. paper size differs each time, usually about a4
September 9th, 2002, 04:18 AM
Yes, "easel" is the right english word! A4 on an easel?
I've just see an nice easel in a store - expensive but... lovely. Maybe on the next salary!
September 9th, 2002, 04:30 AM
got my easel from a friend who found it in a trashcan. there're also cheap easels avail. i think. starting at about 15 $ here, a cheap one should do it.
September 9th, 2002, 03:42 PM
Sorry for not posting this earlier - I'm awake for 36 hours now and as I've just came home I'll start the one for 9 sept.
This is made in the elevator (office) about 20 hours ago!
I realy need some feedback to it- my hair was in my eyes and i've strugled a lot with it.
Even that my eyes didn't show too much i've drew them in order t see "myself" :) Now i think they need more work.
So.. i'll look for your opinions. Now.. back to today's sp.
I hope I will be able to see myself in the mirror :zzz: :xx: :evilbat:
September 9th, 2002, 05:46 PM
September 9th, 2002, 06:33 PM
oblio: that last pencil one is just great, you have improved heaps over the last little while, good to see :D
September 9th, 2002, 11:09 PM
no kidding:D :D :D i'll talk more later. late for eat'n:p
Sept 9 6:00 p.m.
September 10th, 2002, 02:32 AM
@keyth: u start scaring me :eek:
September 10th, 2002, 02:50 AM
man retro...you have a nice drawing ability. really nice lines. where are your pupils though? it would be interesting to see you spend a couple of hours on a peice w/some finished tonal quality.
ob...what can i say? great job on both. you handled the head tilt nicely. it feels right. what about throwing some blacks and whites on the second one to make it pop off the page eh?:p
lil' john...thanks for the compliment. i agree with you 100%. one reason i started doing this was to familiarize(sp?) myself w/color. every now and then one comes out that i like. so much to learn. it's cool to see your paintings...each one is a bit more detailed....almost looks like a step by step.
taff...thanks man!!! i like stepping back a bit sometimes. besides i need to look at body shapes some more.
September 11th, 2002, 01:35 AM
Those office nights have got me in the end, just when i was starting to feel ok about my sp's.
I couldn't finish this one - I was so tired I couldn't hold my eyes open and on top of it the drawing was horrible.
This is the mud that came out:
I loved Kevin's Chen Nemo drawings and wanted a 2 values only drawing. I'll try it again!
For the 9 sep. my intention was to use only 3 values even thtat in the end i couldn't hold it and added some brighter spots.
I'm sad! Now... back to office! :realmad:
September 11th, 2002, 02:35 AM
September 11th, 2002, 03:57 AM
great job guys!!
obilo: you have improved soo much! praise.
retro: (blue) that is my favorite of yours yet!
September 11th, 2002, 10:10 AM
hey keyth we're all waitin for ya... you know , if u miss one day, u gotta do 2 the next day. :D
September 11th, 2002, 10:34 AM
yesterday was one of the longest days of my life. finished this last night at about 3:30 a.m. just didn't post it...passed out. i wanted to do a long one but a bunch of crap was going on i had to deal with. so its kind of a rough sketch. hopefully today's will be better.
Sept 10 post midnight...i didn't turn into a pumpkin though :D
September 11th, 2002, 10:37 AM
We usualy do more then one - I have posted my last atempt only becouse I didn't wanted to skip one day. :angel:
The punnishment should be MUCH bigger! He is the cheif here - he deserves to be... impaled! :) :funny:
We will make his portait or smth - he has to FEEL the shame :D
This is Zen - you don't cheat this!
So... Keyth :wazzup:
The only excuse is - "It's done but not uploaded yet!"! :D You have one more hour...
[EDIT] - Ha - you have posted it when i was typing - good timing! (you make it) :p
September 11th, 2002, 11:00 AM
ha ha that is funny ob. i didn't understand your post until i refreshed and noticed your edit. i was like "damn, i'm locking my door to await the lynchmob". you know i would never do one and not post it;).
September 11th, 2002, 05:34 PM
Just when I was saying that we do more sp's/day - here I am - just one!
And Iíve managed to screw my jaw, symmetry, proportions... everything. I knew somehow that a non-wacom approach will show some weak parts - so.
Boy, I have a long way to go and so little time for it!:cry:
September 11th, 2002, 08:08 PM
yo Ob: i agree with you on some of your proportions. but man, that's still a very strong drawing. very strong indeed.
i'm content with doing one a day. sometimes they take a long time plus, gotta sketch stuff around town too.
Sept 11 6:30 p.m.
September 12th, 2002, 02:36 AM
September 12th, 2002, 03:45 AM
today i found out an old friend is dying. tomorrow i am going to see him for the last time.
sorry for the poor drawing.
September 12th, 2002, 04:01 AM
@keyth - ye - one is enough - yesterday i've done some bird sketches aswell. Also I'm doing research for the thunderdome and for a book cover :D
Your crit (you asked for it right?) - very nice monitor light on your foreheat - boy i'd love to master th color like that. Also, nice highlights on your eyes even that they look too bright to me - are they so light browned? You don't seem to have red hair (those people have ligjt brown/any color eyes).
Nice rendering on your right cheek, looks a little flat on your left one.
I don't have any constructive ideas to give you orher then... keep it on. Try a head tilt, more expresion, keep something in your mouth - i tried with a pencil yesterday but while i was working around the eyes it felt funny in the mouth - maybe becouse of the chemical stuff around it.
Anyway.. Keep Walking (We are the Johnny Wallker brigade :D)
@retro - hey, you had a new approach - nice but... don;t you have that wacom yet? Some pencil rendering? Some chacoal - new technique? Come on mate... forget the octoberfest - put some juice on the paper :D
Anyway - i LOVE how you do those lines - how you've drew your hair.
@nil - I've just seen your post while previewing this reply.
I'm so sorry for your friend. But the best thing I have in mind to tell you is - go to the drawing board and USE that energy. If you've been around for a month or so you might know that my brother had a paragliding accident - and at first we didn't knew if he will make it or if he will be able to walk again etc. And at that time, J. Manley and Andrew have pushed me on drawing him every day.
Yes - why don't you do that- go and try to draw him on your last visit. I still thank Andrew and Manley for those moments.
I will pray for your friend!
September 12th, 2002, 06:56 AM
thanks oblio, i dont know that it will be possible/appropriate to draw him, but i should expect that i will be doing some extra art over the next little while - exorcising the demons and all that. ive just realised that i posted the wrong image, however, i cant fix it right now, maybe in the morning :(
September 12th, 2002, 10:34 AM
Have been quite busy the last week. Tried to compensate it with doing a couple of spod on tuesday. Sadly, I wasn't able to put down anything. - Well I had another attempt yesterday, trying to get back into doing them on a daily basis! ;)
ob & keyth - the last spods you posted are great. esspecially oblio's spod is very nice - little out of proportion, but so strong! :)
September 12th, 2002, 05:46 PM
i had to see about those proportions - i had to see if i can do it without measuring - just with the eye!
And this is my first cloth attempt too - bad result :mad:
and a color attempt
@tatff - cool - i'll do one with sky glasses too - great ideea!
September 12th, 2002, 06:50 PM
this documentary I watched on tv, yesterday, kinda influenced today's portrait..
oblio - yeah, I sometimes run around my room trying to find an object or thing, which could spice up the process of doing the portrait.
September 13th, 2002, 12:44 AM
keyth: That's a nice one. That blue patch on your forehead is sweet.
Oblio: Dang! You're really strong with the pencil.
nil: Sorry about your friend.
I went back to painter for a bit. I need to try out more brushes. Any suggestions?
September 13th, 2002, 01:05 AM
this is a portait of me
September 13th, 2002, 01:27 AM
first off, i would like to say "welcome midnight 23":D. it's great to see a new face. i'm gonna bust right out and say, buy at least two mirrors and join the fun". welcome:chug: .
Ob: you are totally right about my last SPOD. i set up two light sources and failed at rendering them properly. the painting cost me a lot of time...and i think it shows kinda in a bad way. it looks really cooked. baked like a potato:p
if it's one thing i learned so far it's that painting the glow from a monitor is hard as hell. OB, i don't care what you say but almost every one of your drawings has more positive qualities than you know.
taft...i mean taff. ha ha...(bad joke:p ). anyways. good to see you back. i like the fireman one a lot. if i were to say anything(and this is from looking at your past posts) check out the size of your eyeballs. your rendering skillz are really nice and you handle noses and mouths well. really stare at those eyeballs...really check out the size of those dudes.
lil'john: where ya'been dawg? ha. thanks for the kind words. once again your portrait rocks and stays within the boundaries of getting progressively more detailed. i really like the shadow across your face....actually i think i'll try one of those. it seems like a challenge to actually paint it and have it read that way. hope i'm making sense...i'm really tired.
sept 12 12:00 pm/a.m
September 13th, 2002, 01:38 AM
jain, where are you??????????
September 13th, 2002, 01:55 AM
sorry i keep forgetting stuff.
lil' john: as far as painter goes, i like to use a round camelhair or captured bristle. i go into the bristle controls and up the clumpiness and thickness of the brush...usually an opacity of about 5-15.
also i'll play with the watercolor brushes. i use either the eraser wet, eraser diffuse, or the simple round wash.
sooooooooooo many brushes. if you try these and your computer can't handle the dry rate of the watercolor brushes....(this is what andrew said) go to water and pull down the dry rate. this will help in render time.
also the smeary round can be kinda fun. it's under brushes. i usually always click the "pick up underlying color" button in the objects menu.
that's about it. i'm still a newbie so....hope this helps and is not too familiar already :chug:
September 13th, 2002, 06:30 AM
September 13th, 2002, 05:23 PM
I'm going to sleep. I'm finished!
It went so wrong tonight with the sp - I just didnít enjoyed it since I was so tired then.. i've let go as Andrew suggested and begun another one - It went smooth until the end.
So in the end.. I'm calm and ready to sleep. Tomorow I have a lot of work to do ;)
(sorry if you experience slow download - changed server - if this doesn't work please advise me - I'll change again)
Pencil again - I have tried a "softer" attempt - a la Taff. ;)
See you in the morning!
P.S. - Wait - I have to crit you in exchange right? No.. but I HAVE to say few things :D
@Keyth - IMHO - one of your best - even that's a "special" lighting case. Sorry.. no crit! :)
@retro - lovely pose (excellent), nice line (outline)> come on.. get inside.. put some value... it won't bite! :) Knowing that you are so much more experienced and skilled then me it somehow bothers me and it's giving me creeps when I consider the inside of a portrait now. I wonder what it is in store for me... because I want to possess your line but keep a sort of freedom. Your line is so sure and secure it can create magic - but it always stays into your pocket.
I've seen the portraits you've done - shy attempts of value and this line I see here.. was not to be found. Not like this anyway. I'm sorry... Iíve got carried away - but only because i like VERY much your style.
September 13th, 2002, 05:34 PM
i've hit submit? sorry there was more :)
@Taff - man, i've tried something like you do but it went out too rough. I'll keep trying.
@midnite23 - welcome! More! :D
@littlejohn - me strong? I've just seen some of your life drawings - teach me!
As for your last SP - lovely, but Keyth is right - try something else - watter, anything softer to blend your values!
@oblio- yo, stupid, you'd better put a shade on your face since you have that thing on your head - you know, in order to see that there are two objects there, with diferent texture and feel - your face and the bandana! Fool!
Wait - Oblio is me right? (slow mind) I had to tell him this since i just found out (a bird told me the trick) ;)
September 13th, 2002, 06:57 PM
ob, you are too funny:D :D :D and you still get better and better:chug: lovely drawing!
September 13th, 2002, 07:20 PM
ob - you are a funny guy. have a nice sleep! I really like your last attempt. Few lines, much expression! Esspecially the outer part of the face is done well - it really catches my eye! keep doing your portraits!! - Hey, you don't wanna see my first attept of doing a selfportrait about two month ago do you? T'was terrible!! :D
littlejohn - I like your last one. Even though I am not that much of a fan of painting with opaque paint. I would recommend to try out most of painters painterly brushes! Try to use the advantages of the programm, try to combine different brushes to make your painting richer. Oh, and I really like the simulated chalk and charcoal of painter.
keyth - yeah, I am having problems with getting them the right or even same size! Thanls for pointing it out! :)
September 13th, 2002, 09:03 PM
Thanks for all the painter tips, folks. Of course the forum was down a bit today when I went to put them into practice. So today's is a little bit more of the same. I did try a different brush: Smeary Round.
Does anybody else have the problem of painting everything a little slanted? I don't even notice it unless I flip and then I'm dismayed. BTW: can you even flip the image in Painter? or scale an area you've selected? or keep it from crashing on save? Quirky program.
taff: Maybe you should spend a little more time constructing your drawings before rendering. Your rendering is sweet, btw.
keyth: Trying to figure out if other people's paintings looked messed up flipped like mine do, I flipped your latest. In so doing, I concluded that the perspective (which I had at first thought was a little wonky) is right on. I also thought the painting looked a tiny bit better flipped. I wonder why?
Oblio: I'll post a little life drawing info in my other thread. Thanks for the props and tips.
September 14th, 2002, 01:54 AM
little john: i'm not sure about that. i know that it probably has to do with that old drawing exercise...you know the one... turning the drawing upside down. i guess our eyes get so used to seeing things "how we normally percieve them" that when we screw it up...stuff looks different. painter 7 crashes a lot. painter 6 has never crashed on me. go figure.
taff: i agree w/little john. i think its a construction thing. checking those shapes n'stuff. it happens to everyone. sometimes when time is tight...i'll finish a quick one and look at it and go...."gross". but hopefully the more we do the less that will happen.
retro: i agree with ob!!!! show us some tones dude!
one more week in school and it's all over:chug: :chug: :chug: :chug: :chug: :chug: :chug:
Sept 13 midnighthttp://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sept13spweb.jpg
September 14th, 2002, 08:39 AM
lil john - thanks for the comment about the rendering. I dig your last one!
lil john & keyth - you are definitely right about my portraits being somewhat inconsistant and unstable. I am working on constructing them better since the beginning, though I am only slowly progressing on getting better at it. I guess it's like you said, keyth, there more will do, the better we'll become at it. - Could you point out where the fault at constructing my head is? I tend to get blind on my paintings and drawings really fast.
September 14th, 2002, 12:03 PM
September 14th, 2002, 12:15 PM
andrew! you are evil, you force people to paint portraits!
look at me! i merely have done about 3 portraits in my entire miserable life, and there it is, i'm hooked.
there was a photo left on the right side of my puter, i suddenly grabbed the pencil and sketched my head.
not courageous enough!
i found a mirror in the bathroom, installed it on the left side, and began.... very fun exercise. it took about an hour and a half.
lol. i'll definitely make a few more tries.
September 14th, 2002, 05:11 PM
uh-oh!:eek: here come the pros. mr. williams himself even.
hey pros, how about you guys thumb through the pages of this section and crit some of us newbs.:chug:
September 14th, 2002, 06:20 PM
hey keyth, you rock. have seen all your portraits already.
i really like that one in the shadow, with the dark red tones and minimal light. hard to give you crits m8 :>
littlejohn: neato. good to see your portrait hehe. man i just love your art. ... your sketches are just amazin m8.
concerning that "slanted vision", i guess it also comes from the fact that each side of the heads is completely different. the concept of exact simetry doesn't exist. from the teeths to the eyebrows, nothing is really similar on both sides.
however, as keyth said, if you prefer when your portrait is flipped, that probably means you succeeded !
oblio: very nice drawing, especially that portrait you did during september11.
eyewoo: seen this one sometime ago, it's a very mature portrait.
this sp thread is definitely captivating peeps.:D
September 14th, 2002, 06:33 PM
Wow... new people aboard. Welcome and.. "stay a while" :D
Today i've tried some new stuff - me as cartoon character - didn't went out the way I wanted.
Damn just when masters are looking I'm fooling around!
so... DON'T LOOK! SHOO! BYE BYE! :evilbat: WRAAAA
The upper right one is dedicated to Scott - Mr: "Yeah.. perspective baby" :D
Check the Life Drawings Threads too :rolleyes:
Crit. time: (master people, observe ;) )
@Taff- try something else then pencil. Soemthing you can't erase! What do you think?
@littlejohn - very nice - go softer still
@keyth - yo, what's with the black eyebrow? feeling lazy? (look whos talking). Why don't you try a clasic approach? Pencil maybe? Forget wacom for a day!
@eyewoo - woo... wooaw... :eek: teach us something (lovely green btw. looks familiar though... is it a brand new SP?)
@sparth - apart from atempting today to make some scenary (your style) and failed... now you've made my day by joining here - welcome!
Bathroom mirror rocks - I've tried multiple mirrors and now I have a brand new one. (keyth has bigger headphones.. but he's moderator here so.. :D)
Oh.. and btw - pay more attention to the eye! :p :p :p (boy it was hard to say this but i did - forget the headphones.. it was a diversion :D)
September 14th, 2002, 06:39 PM
Monsegnieur Sparth, you have posted while I was posting... :D :confused:
Merci pour la citique :D
I hope you don't mind what I've just said!
September 14th, 2002, 07:22 PM
oblio: of course i don't. hey i'm not a portrait expert. my left eye is fucked up anyway. hehe
September 15th, 2002, 04:28 AM
i am experiencing technical difficulties atm. finished one about 6:00 p.m. today but had to go to the cremaster show. fortunecity will not let me access data... bleep....bleep.
sparth. c'mon man. someone at your level should easily be able to give me crits. thanks for your kind words...but please, tell me what's wrong. i know for one thing i really need to work on consistency. lots of bad SPOD's.
keep'em com'n...i'll try some more but i have a crappy connection and fortunecity is not too nice sometimes
September 15th, 2002, 04:36 AM
oh wow. looky there. 20th time is the charm.
this one was rushed. not too happy with it. must make tomorrows better.
Sept 14 6:00 p.m.
September 15th, 2002, 07:45 AM
haven't seen the boards in a long time! i'm trying to catch up with everyone's spod's as best as i can.
keyth: a late congrats on the promotion! what kind of lighting to you have on when you spod? very unusual...
p.s. did you know the bacteria in your ears multiplies 700 times when you wear earphones for an hour? :D
ob: is that you?? your drawings are much improved over the ones you did of your brother, the progress you've made is unbelievable.
ret: love that style.
littlejohn: you have a great eye for color.
eyewoo: a little indulgent now, are we? very nice pic.
sparth: i really like that mirror pic.
Aug 30. tiny sketch from a tiny photo taken a day before i shaved me head.
Sep 12. i'm not a morning person, and i felt grumpy, groggy and unshaven when i drew this one, and i think that projected into the drawing. so there ya have it. a portrait of fugly me. ;)
sep 15. trying to scare myself shitless.
sep 15 again. me at work on the computer, transcribing an interview. what a pain.
sep 16. ...finished my work at 3 AM. ugh, gnyt folks.
September 15th, 2002, 08:31 AM
okay, this is from friday an saturday (quick one realizing i could see myself in the mirror while reading a book about rembrandt, man - that guy rocks)
also got my graphire yesterday, gave it a try or two, but prob will take a while be4 i post sth here, also i have to say i prefer the feeling of traditional media (plastic pen on plastic board - uh :/ )
not sure about the tones thing, you guys here most have realized the bitter truth, which is that i cant paint at all... hopefully i can work on that the next weeks, a friend said she'd help me out. but dont know yet...
@ sparth & snowfly: welcome aboard, would like to see you stay a while.
September 15th, 2002, 12:41 PM
thanks ret. i've actually been around for a while, i just don't have a lot of net time so i don't post very often.
great to see your whole head there... can hardly wait for your color pics too. :)
September 15th, 2002, 01:37 PM
September 15th, 2002, 04:52 PM
Android formaly known as Andrew Jones told me to post this one, so here it is...
I really look forward to paint some more SPs, tomorrow using a mirror! I feel enthused about it...:fruit:
September 15th, 2002, 05:04 PM
oohh.. awesome!! :D :fruit: post more!!!
Originally posted by Hermchen
Android formaly known as Andrew Jones told me to post this one, so here it is...
I really look forward to paint some more SPs, tomorrow using a mirror! I feel enthused about it...:fruit:
September 15th, 2002, 05:13 PM
Wait a minute... new people around!
Everybody.. a big and warm welcome!
*then stands up and says: Hi, my name is Oblio and Iím conceptartorgian doing daily sp's* :D
@keyth - hey, Mr. red skin - very nice! (Iím still looking for the classic approach ;) )
@snowfly - boy, you paint like a hurricane. Thank you so much for the comments - Iíve realized today (while doing a portrait of someone (see Life drawing threads) that it is a stressful thing - EVERYONE in the house was looking to see if it looks like - she (the old nuts woman) asked me if she has to put make up on, stood still for 40mins. and then compared everything - hmm. my eyes are ok, my ears... yes, good, my nose.. it fits.. here, you should fill this part of the page because I can't see my dress! :eek: :bash:
Then I've went to my room and did my sp - what a beautiful time with myself - relaxing and enjoyable. I guess this explained some of my progress - I love doing it even when Iím cornered by that kind of people - and doing DAILY sp's has become a ZEN thing. You will all see soon! :evilbat:
@retro - ha - welcome to the club - that feeling will soon pass and you will LOVE that plastic pen - not as much as your paints (it doesn't have the smell) but.. enough to keep you up. Lovely ones today.. I'm envious again!
@sparth - monsegnieur - ou est le votre? Don't skip.. try to hang on and the reward is BIG! (at least for me it was- it's true, i've bought the mirror before going into this :))
You are improving VERY nicely! Well done!
You still have problems on proportions - look, look, look - measure.
Then, if you've got the proportions right.. do this :
(this is yours with cutout effect)
I mean, paint the big light and dark areas, with only few values!
Keep pushing! :D
@hermchen - wow... another magic hand is drawing the face. I'm looking forward the next one sir. Android has advised you well... we appreciate this kind of stuff!
September 15th, 2002, 05:21 PM
ooo.. very nice stuff there oblio :eek:
September 15th, 2002, 05:54 PM
Sept 15 4:45 p.m.
be back later w/words.
September 15th, 2002, 06:30 PM
Here I am, getting all juiced up by all the neat stuff in here, all ready to do a self-portrait, and there you have it - not one free mirror in the whole apartement! They're all glued stuck to something! Darn it! Darn it all to hell! :ranting:
I just wanted to do a small quickie! One that lasted for hours! Dang! Does this mean I have to leave the study to go shopping tomorrow?! Dang! Double-dang doo! :bash:
September 15th, 2002, 07:40 PM
oblio: damn, just at the moment i had to go to sleep (yea, kid will be squeeeeking at 7 tomorrow :s) but i just can't resist. i began at midnight, and finished at 1 in the morn.
(once you pop, you can't stop!)
keyth: last one is funky. only crit i could give is that you could sometimes add more nervous strokes, and limit a bit the airbrush effect. remove a bit of this smoothness.
it's funny, if you removed your headphones, i'd probably not even be able to recognize you in the street. equation is: keyth = portrait + headphones.
Hermchen: i love the tones you chose for that selfportrait. it's a very balanced artwork.
snowfly: ty! :>
retro002: tx concerning trad.media versus digital, the only thing i can say is that i was very reluctant to use any digital stuff at first. i did make some digital color since 95, but always on traditional drawing . it was even unconceivable to draw on a wacom. in a way i might say that it took me 5 years in order to really adopt that damn tablet. now i'm simply a wacom drugaddict. that thing is directly connected to my brain. rofl
September 15th, 2002, 08:10 PM
wow.. very nice work sparth.. awesome
September 15th, 2002, 10:58 PM
wow, it's gettin' quite busy in here. :cool:
it's 5am, time to go to bed.
September 16th, 2002, 02:56 AM
lol - the second one is real shit; i had to rescue from the floppy disk (i carry em to work everyday, cause no netaccess at home) with chkdsk. - well i gonna call it some 'fx' i added in 'postproduction' :)
September 16th, 2002, 04:51 AM
Sep. 16, 3:46-4:35 pm
Second one for the day... still not confident enough to inject personal style into these things (unlike android...holy cow, that guy's got imagination).. hopefully this is a step in the right direction?
third one. eventually, i wanna be able to mutate my head and still make it look like me. :)
Ob: totally agree, self-portrait time is beautiful.
Retro: what kind of paper do you paint on to get that effect? glossy?
taff: wow, takes me forever to do a pencil piece that size & detail. nice job.
sparth: not trying to be patronizing or anything.. this is an honest request. how about a step by step?;)
hermchen: cool expression. and the pic looks solid.
keyth: consistent, as usual. I'd recognize you on the street without the earphones.
netbox: vampire-ish. damn dude, your eyes are huge.
September 16th, 2002, 05:02 AM
which pieces do you mean? last 2 are on cardboard.
September 16th, 2002, 07:30 AM
Oh no, I fell in love with this thread. Now I'm damned to draw selfportraits to the very end of my life. :hearts: :chainsaw:
(Painter 7 - b/w charcoal - toned background)
Hey Android, did I mention that I had no foto but a mirror as reference?
]edit[ I did a few very small corrections after showing the pic to my ever helpfull younger brother. He sometimes has a good way to put the finger on my faults. ]edit[
]edit[ Hey there over the big sea! Must be late over there since no one posted since a few hours. Well, I'll add this picture to this reply to save space(?), ehm...
This is how I was looking like, when I found this forum!!! I'm so amazed!!! Whoohooo!!!!!
September 16th, 2002, 08:53 AM
hermchen: heh, gee wiz thats swell. your portrait makes me smile. i love your first one you are very talented indeed.
snowfly: i like the first one you submitted - with the hood - and the newest one is really designerly, in a justice way. its really dope lookin.
taff: i think that is your best portrait yet! you look like you are really confident with the front on view, probably for the measure in symetry .. i dare you to do a twisted and side mug shot.
sparth: just give up man, i dont think you have what it takes. :D ... need i say? .. damn! you rock! :rock:
keyth: i like! its very clean! you look dashing, in fact my belt came undone - how did you do that?
September 16th, 2002, 11:44 AM
killing.people: liked it, eh? here's a quick one i made just for you...just wanted to see if i could do it again. http://www.polygods.com/users/snowfly/images/Sep-16d-2002.jpg
hermchen: gawd, it's archie andrews in the flesh.
September 16th, 2002, 11:55 AM
@Snowfly: You posted same time I edited my reply... I like that color sketchy style of yours :D BTW Who is Archie Andrews :confused: I know it was a fault to choose this angle, it bugs me now...but I will be commited to it.
Edit: I forgot to mention that I really love that fly-logo-thingy on your pics. I started adding this CDH-logo on mine, but it's not the same...I will have to think of something else:nerd:
September 16th, 2002, 05:21 PM
Sorry guys - I'm in a terrible hurry.
This was ment a quick one.
See you tomorow!
September 16th, 2002, 07:07 PM
snowfly.. nicee!! but the cap.. on your head.. the lack of detail kinda doesnt look as good.. the face is awesome
Hermchen.. wow!!! those are.. amazing!!
Oblio :D .. looks nice.. very cool that you can get proportions and everyone right even in quickies
taff.. wow!! very nice!!
wow.. theres a ton of talent and skill on here.. /me faints
September 16th, 2002, 08:23 PM
two hours on that thing, not a good sign. :s
snowfly: i'll try to.
second portrait you did is neato btw.
killing.people: tx :D
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