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October 14th, 2002, 04:59 AM
so i tried sth different:
October 14th, 2002, 05:28 AM
RETRO ROCKS .... A G A I N
cool stuf retro - more more more :clapping2 :clapping2 :clapping2
@ruby - hey.. there are 2 girls here now - we are surrounded! Retreat!!!
October 14th, 2002, 06:27 AM
Hey everyone. I saw Jason Manley's SP in the other thread and I just couldn't help myself, I hope you don't mind Jason. It's nowhere near as excellent as yours, but it was fun nonetheless. This took me roughly an hour and 50 minutes, using Painter 7, Round Camelhair Brush and the sponge. I had a lot of problems with the eyes in this one, I tried fixing everything as best as I could, but something seems off. Oh, my ear on this sucks and my nose is slightly angled, he has a skewed nose :D Enjoy.
Coriat - Proportions still look off a bit bud. You should work on the form of the nose at an angle and the left eye shouldn't be so large from an angle view. Hopefully you get back to doing these daily, it'll help you a lot. Good job bud :)
Orban - Excellent job, your nose may be too thin on it though. Nice technique though.
Wetter - Amen :) This is a great group of people we have on here from all skill levels. Very nice community of artists here. I like your stroke style on this, very cool.
Daarken - lol
RubyGenesis - Welcome and nice SP. I want to try out an ink wash for once, but I don't have any money to buy inks :D I've been jobless for about 3 months now and it hurts the art budget bigtime.
Jhibbs - Great SP. Only thing getting me are the lips. They are too straight, they should have a tiny bit of curvature somewhere, plus the shading on the bottom lip makes it look like your lips are being sucked into your face. :D Other than that, great work, I like your coloring, it really stands out, very cool style.
Retro - Welcome back again and let me say that this is awesome stuff man. Excellent batch of SP's.
Well everyone, please crit my SP, I need and want to get better, better, and better. Have a great Monday everyone, I'll be seeing you all tomorrow night.
October 14th, 2002, 11:55 AM
excellent work people!!!!!!!!
retro: well hello mister "i'm not doing anymore SP's since i don't have the time":p
jhibbs: you are too kind. and it's never too much to ask me, or probably anyone here, for some help. here is a step by step of the one i did on Aug 25. i think it's one of my most successful ones. as far as approaching color...there are a couple of things i have tried to do. one thing is just doing an SP every day. i have a little over 100 now. a lot of them stink, yet i have learned a lot. one reason i started to do this was to learn more about color.
also, i bought a color design book written by an illustrator/graphic designer...it's been useful for bouncing color ideas around. it's still packed away but i'll send you the authors name when i find it.
i try and look at what other people are doing w/color as well. it's very important to look at other peoples stuff....study andrew's goodies (as i'm sure you probably already do)
if i'm trying to paint somewhat realistic skin tones(something i haven't done lately) i'll just sit there and stare at certain parts of my face....sometimes for a long time. man there are a shitload of color in your skin. lots of greens, yellows, bues. on some older SP's whenever i would see a certain color in my skin, i would try to exagerrate it a bit, or enhance it a bit by making it a little brighter or darker...basically play with it a bit to see what i got.
as far as other sp's go...i would just try to abide by the rules of complimentary colors or whatever. you can never go wrong with orange/blue and the like. however, we all just gotta keep punching away at it. keep looking at my spod's...most are really bad at color cause, hell, i'm still learning myself
just keep staring at your face man...there's A LOT of stuff in there!
for this one i did just that. stared and then started throwing it down. hope this helps. keep it up. feel free to ask me any other questions about anything. need help with romance, car payment, what type of pizza to order....i'm here for ya. :chug:
now, these aren't really the actual colors in my face but, i tried to play with and exaggerate what my eyeballs were seeing. jhibbs, after you finish your next SP, give it another hour and play with color, stare, work on one area if you don't have enough time. cheers mate.
October 14th, 2002, 12:03 PM
oh yeah, here is yesterdays.
October 14th, 2002, 01:12 PM
I just sketched this out this morning.
October 14th, 2002, 02:47 PM
Here is another I did this morning.
October 14th, 2002, 03:14 PM
I'm evil. A real evil :evilbat:
Pretty amusing to do it... but my sheet are so teeny ;) It's why I didn't draw me entirely :)
Keyth : hey, cool way of painting :)
Blackhawk I like the way you handle your tone, I'm hoping to achieve this :)
retro002 : continue :)
jhibbs I'm proud to inspire you ;) You're going to kill me ;)
To all : I'm really glad to participate to such a great forum :)
October 14th, 2002, 04:46 PM
Made with lights on:
Made with lights off
P.S. - Wow.. Orban - that KICKS ASS!!! GREAT SP! Best i've seen from you! More More More!
October 14th, 2002, 05:28 PM
October 14th, 2002, 05:42 PM
It took a bit longer today to get into drawing - first problems with getting up, then writing an application for a new job, afterwards visiting my parents. When I came home in the evening I drew this - indirect light from above, just because I couldn't be bothered to install a special light. Took me about 40 minutes. I'm quite pleased with this one. Held in mind the advice to draw a generic face first and then sort of sketch in my facial features. Also tried to achieve more subtle tonal/value changes (thanks for pointing this out, Blackhawk). Still unhappy with the hair rendering. What do you think?
All of you were so productive since I last dropped by on Friday. It took me half an hour to download all the pages. Wow!
@Blackhawk - 11th Oct drawing: really nice, I esp. think the nose and the left eye are rendered really convincingly. 12th Oct drawing: Oh, red nose day again :D, those Painter Impasto tools are great, aren't they? 13th Oct - "Brown Paper sketchbook pad" I'm searching all the art shops around to find a sketchbook with a paper like that, wonderful! 14th Oct: I wish I could give any decent crit on this one, but I fear I can't, to me: no mistakes, good composition.
@MindCandyMan - 11th Oct drawing: watch out for your ears, give them more detail
@nottabird - 11th Oct drawing: yep, the face is a bit too long. Remember that the eyes are at about the middle of your head.
@Orban - 11th Oct. drawing: I like the crosshatching you used; yep, doing an sp every day or so IS a good way to improve. 13th Oct drawing, I see what you mean by inspiration from Frank Miller. 14th Oct: Evil Orban is back :)
@Oblio - 11th Oct. painting - really seems you got the hang of this 6-tone paintings. 12th Oct: definitely shows your state of mind (I know how that feels!); 13th Oct - the lighter look is nice for a change.
@daarken - 11th Oct. drawing: OMG I really wonder how you people manage to keep such a pose while drawing/painting. Anyway, the perspective of your teeth looks wrong; i think you went for this loose and baggy look of your skin on your cheeks?! 13th Oct: 1st posting: I had some problems to spot the face ;) looks like you had much fun with those acrylics. 2nd posting: inner beauty, I like that! 14th Oct: :D :D LOL :D
@jhibbs - posting of 12th Oct: the first two are great, the 3rd has a sort of manga-ish look, the last one looks like you kissed too much and too long ;) Your earliest sp you could find really has an elvish look. I see if I can find the earliest I kept from two years ago. Oct 9th/10th that woodcut look is great. BTW how do you manage to draw so many sp's? Are you doing anything else besides? Good pose covering your eye - and really vivid coloring. How did you do the 4x5 feet one? Projecting a photo onto the wall?
@Wetterschneider - 12th Oct painting: do you know Max Beckman? If not, check out his works. Your reminds me strongly of some of his self portraits. 13th Oct - sleepy look is cool. I agree, a daily sp is a real challenge (that's why I decided to do these on a Monday to Friday basis), 14th Oct: good one, as always.
@davi - 12th Oct painting: :cool:
@keyth - 10th Oct/11th Oct: I don't know whether I'm right, but isn't your chin a bit too long on both of them? Otherwise: fantastic! (applies also to yours from 13th Oct) [and thanks for the mini-tut!]
@Adam - hey, a new face ;)
@Madman - hey, another new face ;)
@oglzogl - and another one?! ;)
@coriat - seems the break did you no good (no offense meant!), I discover the same, doing my sp's on a 5-days-a-week basis and always have to start a-new.
@rubygenesis - good to have a fellow woman around :)
@retro002 - cool, esp. the green watercolor ones
Phew, this was really hard work to follow up all postings of the weekend, but good fun, too!
Very good, very inspiring work everybody. And thanks for the crits. I wouldn't miss them.
As for splitting the thread monthly - good idea!
October 14th, 2002, 05:43 PM
October 14th, 2002, 05:49 PM
Guys am very sorry not to reply to everybody but I am exausted and I don't think I have a hope of catching up :/.
I had a look through this thread and all your work looks stunning. Just like to say hi to the new people it is always nice to see new people and keep at it as I feel it really helps my drawing and to the old people Your deication is inspiring and you are my inspiration. Well here is a quicky and I am off to bed. Normal service shall resum tommorow
October 14th, 2002, 07:45 PM
hmm.. guess who has been missing since about a month? hehe..
wow.. lots of new people posting now :)
Lionel: wow.. your colors are awesome.. keep it up.. i wish i could color like that
Elwood: nice sketch... the ear looks a bit rushed though.. great proportions..
Jester: Nice shading.. eyes look a bit big too me.. over all its very good
Oblio: Wow!! those are awesome.. you are improving each time!! I've got to try the lights off version like that.. keep it up!
orban: thats awesome.. just a few well placed strokes and it looks great.. wish I could do taht..
oglzogl: great shading :D I like your style.. though not very realistic.. but looks great
keyth!! wow!! Awesome!! eek *faints*
Blackhawk!! woaah.. brilliant work! how long did it take you??
great work everyone else keep it up!.. sorry can't reply to each one.. I've been away a month.. so would take forever to reply to you all hehe
heres my latest.. my first try in Painter 7 :) .. painter looks intimidating.. I'll have to practise a lot on it.. effects are great though.. heres a 30 minute pic
October 14th, 2002, 08:15 PM
all you dudes are too kind. TOO KIND i say!!!!!!!! thanks!!:p
i'm finally posting some goodies in the it's finally finished section if anyone wants to know. i'll be back later with full comments on everyone. plus, something OB is up to. thinking of a way to spruce this thread up myself....
quit sketch while listening to casino versus japan.
October 15th, 2002, 01:13 AM
this is for you jason.
October 15th, 2002, 01:41 AM
Late night again, yawn. Trying something different, a new brush, a light background. A surprised expression.
October 15th, 2002, 01:47 AM
hey guys. here's a little heads up. starting on november 1, we will be breaking down the guest SP section into months. this will make things easier for those who wish to refer back to older peices of themselves and their newfound friends here at concept art. it's OB's idea so thank him. he's also up to something else here that you will all know of soon enough.
i am also thinking of something special that we can all par-take in. just thought of it today....so stay tuned. i'm going to be talking to some other mods and "the bigger dudes" to see if it will fly. STAY TUNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2002, 02:26 AM
here's summore i've done, only recently have started this self portrait a day idea, but i think it's just too dope not to do...
probably no more than 12 minutes
really cool stuff in here, haven't felt this inspired in a long time! :evilbat:
October 15th, 2002, 03:47 AM
hey everone whats up.
blackhawk-thanx for comments, and yea now the lips really bothering me :p
jester- about the hair, try to render it in chunks, forget about how its little collections of lines. that usually helps me out. thanx for comments on my stuff, and to answer your questions, the reason ive been posting so many is that i joined this forum AFTER i started the project, and so i had a lot of 'backlogged' SP's that i started posting 4 at a time. i also sometimes will do more than one a day. about the time issue, i hardly sleep at all, i dont watch tv, or really anything that involves sitting still. ive recently been really inspired to create, hence the large number of images. the 4x5 foot inkwash was done by creating a huge grid and working from a digital photo that i opened in PS and made the PS grid options match the real life grid. ive actually started another one already, ill post that when its done unless anyones interested in seeing the WIP shots.
lionel-alot of your work has a traditional feel to it, do you use oil paints at all?
daarken-awesome textures on that one
keyth-thanx a ton for helping me, the step-by step helped a lot. im still not quite there yet but i feel im onto something. i also started doing this to work mainly on color, as i feel too much of my time has been spent on black and white. btw your last color one is awesome, and the sketches give an interesting view of the way you work, particularly the one that looks like ink pen.
i also think i havent been spending enough time on any of these, so i took quite awhile on this one (it was actually my second attempt, i trashed the first one) this is the first time ive used painter since the first daily SP i did, and now i think im gonna switch over for awhile, which means starting to read the painter 7 thread :D for this i used the camelhair round and varied the opacity, more towards the end. keyth, for the tighter details (like the eyes) do you use a different brush? the one i used seemed a bit too 'bristled'. anyway heres todays:
and for orban, a quicky, ill do another tomorrow ;p
October 15th, 2002, 04:16 AM
I'm beginning to get depressed again. I went through a really, really bad funk last year that took me all year to get out of. I'm beginning to feel it onsetting again. I'm frustrated artistically, mentally, and sexually. I don't understand what I have or need to do anymore. I'm confused. I couldn't really bear to look at myself for too long tonight. I need to go blow off some steam somehow, I'm losing my motivation for everything. I'm really sorry guys, no crits tonight, I wish I felt like doing it, but I don't feel it. See you all tomorrow night with the new SP's, hopefully I'll feel more upbeat. I force myself to be as positive as possible, I'll see if I can break this before it begins again.
15 min. Painter 7.
October 15th, 2002, 07:17 AM
This is not really me BUT I like like parts of it. For one part, the hair is much better than usual (thanks to jhibbs), shading and tonal values are smoother. I feel I'm definitely improving and I'd like to thank everybody for their valuable crits.
@ELWOOD - right eye seems bigger than left eye, bottom shading line of right eye seems a little too dark to me.
@Lionel - our exhaustion shows. Looking forward to your "normal service"!
@thenetbox - you're right, eyes are too large. I hope I did a better job in today's sp. Your mouth looks a bit like kneeded into the right of your faxe, but I like the dreamy expression
@keyth - very nice contrast between the worked out eyes and the soft colored mouth; looking forward to your new thread idea. OMG there's so much going on here but I have to decide on which to jump in... still having private projects which are getting neglected currently.
@daarken - good one, as always... extreme lighting seems to be fun, but before embarking on that field I'd like to get my proportions right. Though I must admit that it's highly tempting!
Late night again, yawn. Trying something different, a new brush, a light background. A surprised expression. SUCCEED!
@cotron - I like the red one!
@jhibbs - thanks for the tip on the hair, I think I did better today. Also thanks for the info on how you did the 4'x5' one. With this "no sleep method" I used to work for years - but wasn't happy with it. I found that I am much more productive when at least I have 7 hours each night. I can do with less but am happier with 9. Probably really getting old now ;) :(
@Blackhawk - the only advice I can give is: relax. Do sth completely different. Sleep long. Then come back. I know how difficult it is to motivate oneself again and again. My advice works for me. Hopefully for you, too.
October 15th, 2002, 08:55 AM
daarken: I absolutely love your stuff. Man...that is so awesome.
Jester: Your self portraits are taking leaps and bounds forward. You are improving at a steady rate. Good job...I am trying to work on proportions myself...sometimes it stinks having to work on the basics huh?...hehe...I guess we gotta pay our dues before we can play with the big boys...
Ooops I'm at work...gotta go before the boss sees.
everyone else: you rock...sorry I am at work
Here's my newest self portrait...this doesn't look like me totally but I wanted to focus straight on proportions because I am AWFUL at them. Can anyone provide the method they use for mapping out the symmetry (spelling?) of the face? Do you have any suggestions keyth? Yours always seem to be really proportionate...thanks.
October 15th, 2002, 09:52 AM
Ants and mice and rusted leafs... movie quotes and and wired whispers... to my friend...
What if this is as good as it gets? - you ask. But it's not.. look at your nick boy. It's time to get away a little (as I'm going to do) and walk the wilds like.. in legends of the fall :D (ie.. i'm a movie freak) - put some music on... look again in the mirror - it's the same butt kicker now, just a bit upset but much more stronger then he ever used to be.
Look the guy form the mirror 30 secs in the eyes, say goodbye and go for a walk on the streets... breath, hear, see, listen... the senses will cure the soul. Then come back and be the mothefucka' you know you are when you want to.
Take a white pencil and draw.. your ears, your lip, your face... skip the eyes for a day.
When you will do you SP tomorow.. you'll have brand new eyes.. blackhawk! Trust me!
October 15th, 2002, 09:58 AM
MindCandyMan - and anyone else who wants to know, the, imo, ultimate master teacher for heads and hands is Andrew Loomis. Here is "Drawing the Head and Hands" in single page jpg scans available for download. http://www.gameartworks.com/LoomisBooks/heads/page_01.htm
I can't even begin to describe how good this book is, or the dumbass stupidity and shortsightedness that keeps it out of print.
October 15th, 2002, 12:45 PM
Uhmmf, I'm nearly at it for the proportion but... short nose this time :) But I'm happy with my shading, it's coming, I feel it... and I see my improvement each day now, pretty cool!
Blackhawk sorry for you but... I really like what you do. Continue, you inspire me each time I look your drawing :)
jhibbs I hate you. Really... you do it a lot better than me ;)
Wetterschneider continue arghhh
Daarken : great :)
keyth : for the first time I'm not digusted while I see your last drawing :p
thenetbox : just try :) Look at what jhibbs do... argh :( I'm so bad :(
Lionel your sp show us that you're exhausted... Hoper you're in better mood today
Oblio Thanx :)
See ya all :)
October 15th, 2002, 01:52 PM
first of all, thanks to everybody who replyed to my first post..
you people here are really friendly..
October 15th, 2002, 04:20 PM
Thank you Oblio vor noticing me standing against the wall, wondering where the music was coming from.
My first few were posted in a thread all by themselves.
Here is my contribution for today.
10 min quicky
30min one I think could be better
and a detail@100% which I think is better than the complete one
I appologize for not having anything to say about any specific images except that there is a really interesting variety of styles and moods. I am a bit behind in my reading.
Also I have a little anecdode. The last three images I made in the lonesome thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1) were done with the following in mind. I tried to keep the lighting, subject matter and style very similar and I just changed the music I was listening to. The first one was Sisters of Mercy- Vision Thing - when you don't see me, the second one was Manu Chao - proxima estacion esperanza - me gustas tu (sp?) and the third one, ---here comes the weird bit--- done on 13oct/14oct was Miles Davis, BitchesBrew cd2 Sanctuary ... I fell of my chair when I checked Andrew's contribution this morning.
October 15th, 2002, 04:55 PM
hey guys...oh and gals. there's an announcement on the main Guest SP page. i apologize for a little lack of comments lately on my part. been trying(frantically) to get more 3d stuff together and send things out to game companies here.
Jester: you may very well be right about the chin:p . your drawing is nice. don't pull an old bee bop sin and go sooo gray. remember to push some contrast. also check the shadow under nose. keep'em com'n.
Elwood: keep'em com'n bro. are you posting the same pic twice? naughty..naughty. :p
lionel: don't worry about posting text too much. there are lots here and it can get overwehlming sometimes. another nice peice.
netbox: you are still improving buddy. we need to see more of you though. glad to see you on painter. it's wacky at first but....so is staring at yourself every day.:p . KEEP'EM COM'N.
keyth: that's one of the stupidest drawings i've ever seen in my life. work harder you turd.
daarken: i'm into your works buddy. taking on the master...wow. you got balls. keep'em com'n.
wetters: OMG. nice job catching the surprised look. i think everyone here can take note and change some face poses.
cotron: if you keep com'n. you'll keep learning. nice pencil. more, more, more.
jhibbs: so glad i could help. and that color one is NICE. the purple on the left side of your face looks great...over the eye, lurking in the shadows...YES! :chug:
Blackhawk: you got my PM bro. KEEP'EM COM'N.
mindcandies: keep writing that on the board in the back of your brain. it's a great thing to keep telling yourself. KEEP'EM COM'N or i'll hunt you down.:p
orban: what's up buddy? your pic has a nice soft element to it. however, that sucker wants to pop off the page with some higher contrast. pop, pop, pop! more, more, more.
zeit: nice to meet you. sorry about not replying at first. things little hectic. blah, blah, blah:p you have a very interesting rendering style. the only thing i would do at this moment is really look at those eyes. these seem to be lying on a plane. those dudes need to be looking spherical. yow! Keep'em com'n mate!!!
miasmak: don't worry you were noticed a while ago.:D . glad to see you in the big one. i know you're speed spoding. how about a longer one. plllleeeaaasssseeeeeee.
thanks for the comments guys. remember to be looking for some new goodies coming up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2002, 06:04 PM
don't laugh - i've tried to push a bit the form, the values (it was dark in the room - again), and to guess a bit my skull... it's hard when it's empy.
Now.. this has to have some major flaws.. i can feel it... yet, too tiered to spot them.
What does it need.. background? That nose is too singular (too much contrast? - i wanted to see it popping in the front appart from the rest of the face).. i don't know.. maybe the initial black sketch lines shouldn't be here anymore... :help:
@miasmak - welcome. Yes.. keyth is right - you should do one spending more time on it. Mind the symetry on your last.. some proportions (eyes) ... loove the mood. As for the music.. well.. wait a bit.. when you do this on a daily basis the music will be in the air and you will be a new miasmak each day. That's the secret in this thing.. it's a trap but a beutifull one. I am glad you have fallen in it.
@zitzeuge - oh boy.. i love that one. (sorry fot not being here to welcome you properly.. last days were.. a bit rusted for me). You mr. "viena calling" have some GREAT values there. But what have you done with the proportions? Excellent hair and skin.. yet the eyes and the ear.. i tell you what - next time.. start with the eyes.. ok? looking for the next one... :chug:
@orban - yes my friend.. that is the way - hatch around the shape, on poligons, more riguor.. you have shifted your face while doing the sp - see at the chin and the eyes are looking like your head turned - put more logic there.. less reality. You're on the right track.. love it!
@mindcandy - yo.. your proportions are off :D - see the forehead and above.. tell you what - take a pencil in the right hand - extend the hand as much as you can in the direction of the mirror (place the mirror few feets ahead) then measure.
Place marks on the mirror to keep your head positioned in the same place (i did this at first :) ) and.. don't let go. You are getting there... i'll say... few days. Now.. surprize me and do it right next time ok? I'll be thinking about you tomorrow.. when i'll do some drawing! Ready? Kick my butt... :bootyshak:
@jester - what collor is your skin? :D looks a bit dark... :p
@keyth - where is your portrait? 3D you say? oh well... ok - but let me know when you get that job. You deserve it friend!
October 15th, 2002, 07:47 PM
I saw my cousin for the first time for ages this evening so so much for normal service :/. Took longer than I hoped to finished this :/. I must skoot of to bed (I am going to be soo tired tommorow :/)
oh btw jhibbs I used to do an awful lot of oil painting (Portrats mainly) at school so if my paintings look like I am trying to paint in a oil paint stlye it is because that is what I am used to.
October 15th, 2002, 09:30 PM
oblio: bwahahaha! oh, sorry. hey, we should all have a clown day! heh. ok , off to do my sp.
October 15th, 2002, 09:48 PM
well, you win some and you lose some!
see jhibbs this is what happens when color says "not today fool":p
October 16th, 2002, 12:07 AM
Hey guys, thanks for your support, I had to vent last night and this seemed like the right place to do it. I learned not to keep that sort of stuff to yourself or else it may explode on you and that's a very, very bad thing. Anyways, did this, 30 minutes, I call this a back to the past drawing, I felt like I couldn't draw tonight. I'm going to do one more later after my ice hockey game, so I'll comment then. Enjoy everyone.
October 16th, 2002, 12:08 AM
when in doubt, get sketchy as balls...these were done in ballpoint pen then scanned..i manipulated the colors in photoshop...why? the drawings sucked. screw tonight...
nice one keyth, like the painterly qualities...when i get my wacom back, i'll have to attempt some painter action..
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
October 16th, 2002, 01:20 AM
Cotron - just keep going.
Blackhawk - I always feel frustrated at an image that isn't better or at least as good as the last favorite, but what the hell, at least we can always learn from the bad as well as the good. Not that this one's all that bad - I actually like it, you've simply done some stronger pieces.
Daarken - man, another cool pic from you.
Lionel - how do you feel about switching to some other media or textures or color palettes? I love your sp's, and I mean no disrespect. Just wondering if you'd think it might stretch you some more...
Oblio - you're scary!
Keyth - thanks, it's painful to hold an expression, and it gets worn out and stale as time drags on, but it's fun to try and capture it.
Miasmak - that second one is very strong. I'm glad you joined the big thread...
Zeitzeuge - there are some really effective qualities to your sp. It's a little loose in the proportions and the anatomy of the ear - but there's something dead on accurate about it at the same time, maybe it's the values, and the depth of field.
Not too far off the beaten path - a little more texture, changed media, trying a little Mona Lisa smile, and a fresh palette.
October 16th, 2002, 01:49 AM
keyth: hey dont worry. i think that this one is really good. don't ever give up.
October 16th, 2002, 02:04 AM
lionel-got any of your oil stuff to show??:D
wetterschneider-awesome texture and color on that one, and i know what you're sayin about the expressions, they really start to hurt like this one http://liquid2k.com/lithius/1float.jpg my face was killin me :p
daarken-you posted as i was writing this, i scrolled down and was like 'woa?" nice job on that one, the strokes really add alot to it. what brush did you use?
keyth-awesome, the palette knife(?) strokes around the edge work really well, i thought they were some kind of design element at first. you bring the form out so quickly.
i tried harder this time, and i really looked at my face. i used reflected lighting from my lamp and the other side is monitor light. i know this is still off but i feel im getting somewhere at least. i got pretty frustrated and nearly trashed it halfway through but i decided to try and save it, hope that part doesnt show too much.
and heres the second large-scale inkwash i did, not quite done yet:
October 16th, 2002, 02:11 AM
jhibbs: thanks! i just used the palette knife. man! your big ink wash sps are rockin!! how long do they take? keep it up!!
October 16th, 2002, 04:09 AM
hey guys. awesome work.
thanks daarken. it's good to see a new regular pumping out quality work consistently. same goes for jhibbs, blackhawk, lionel, and wetters. not to mention mister cotron...love the gray and white.
jhibbs: ya' know it's funny to think about doing a daily spod paired with the element of frustration. it's not only a part of life but DEFINITELY a part of drawing/painting. some of my best spod's come from paintings that frustrated the f$%k out of me at first but.......eventually were conquered by fixing things here and there. it's all about solving problems.
October 16th, 2002, 04:11 AM
oh yeah...from daarken.
. don't ever give up
quote of the year as far as i'm concerned.
October 16th, 2002, 04:41 AM
curses .... technology ate my post ...
one packet/marble lost, retrying ...
better post while I am ahead, you are getting the abridge version since I have to retype this
@oblio - sketch lines on top of head and forehed are cool, the ones on the edges of the mouth mask make the mouth come forward instead of the nose
@lionel - the mouth seems a bit small to me
@keyth - moody, moody
@blackhawk - good to see the eyes, I like the loose lines on the forehead an viewer left side of the neck the other lines sometimes are a bit mechanical
@cotron - don't stop, cool colour manip on the ballpoint one, you must have got a crick in the neck from holding your head like that
@wetterschneider - the lilac&pink combo is ssssoooooo eery, combined with the stare ... :eek: mommy
@daarken - angular and controlled marks of the palette knife compliment the expression in this one, I like the diagonal line across the canvas as well.
@jhibbs - first one: sensitive observations, spot where the bottom of the nose meets the upper lip bothers me a bit. second one: I have no words only intense envy for your skill.
Does anyone know why I can't see FortuneCity hosted images in Opera, I have to switch to Exploder all the time. It's making me more grumpy than necessary ...
October 16th, 2002, 04:49 AM
i feel lost
October 16th, 2002, 05:24 AM
Felt like using a broad pencil today. And used a wall mirror instead of a small handheld one.
@MindCandyMan - Thanks for praise. So do yours. Stick to it. I discovered for mine that it pays to do a proper rendering of your glasses, if not (just drawing a "symbol" for glasses) the whole portrait looks wrong.
@keyth - tried to keep your advice in mind for today's
@Oblio - got carried away with shading ;)
@Lionel - arwgh, no normal service :( ;) Can it be that your mouth is a bit too small on today's sp?
@Blackhawk - good to see you again. Parallel lines remind me of Edvard Munch's "The cry" - intention or accident?
@cotron - seems to have been a good idea to manipulate your sp's in ps
@Wetterschneider - Mona Lisa smile :D bwuahhahah :D LOL and you caught this special expression.
@daarken - this one is my favourite up to now, diagonal composition, light, expression - wow! Second one (the lost one): Sort of "spot where's daarken" :)
@jhibbs - left eye looks a bit large and eyelashes are hmmm, a bit too prominent for my taste. The large scale one: great.
October 16th, 2002, 07:02 AM
Well, my horrible art night is complete. I did this hideous monstrosity and pretty much the only redeeming value of it was the values, but even my crap-ass scanner found some hideous prank to pull on me and mess them up. I tried levelling it out in photoshop to close to the original, but I failed at it. Pretty much sums up my night, two horrible art pieces, a sore back, and a loss at my hockey game... I'm on a roll :D
Anyways, here it is, vine charcoal. This piece pretty much was comprised of two poses. I had one earlier, but 5 minutes into the pose after craning my neck for awhile, it cramped and I had to kill that pose and go for another, but it all got mixed together. The nose is extremely off, I probably spent 15 minutes on the nose alone, but it didn't work at all. I threw my sketchpad across the room after messing with it for all that time, thankfully my anger didn't destroy the thing. I need sleep, lol. :)
Anyways, enough self-bashing, here's the post...
Thenetbox - Good values on this SP, face is a bit skewed though. You should watch out for the facial alignment. I ran into the same problem on this piece, it's something that is critical to look out for. The one you saw took me about an hour and 50 minutes to do.
Jester - Thanks for the words. Your SP's keep getting better, and better, and better. The Oct. 15th one was phenomenal in my opinion. Very good work, keep working hard at it bud, your improving. I never heard of Edward Munch's "The Cry", so it was an accident. Sorry, I'm a cultureless heathen :D
MindCandyMan - I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I saw all the messages all over your SP. Nothing like a little verbal motivation. Your proportions are better on this, still off a tad in spots though, especially the eye placement. Keep practicing them though.
Oblio - Thanks man. I like the clown piece you put together, kind of like my impasto piece from a few days ago. Nothing like dressing up your own face and poking some fun at yourself :D
Orban - Form is getting better, start pushing those values more on your portraits, everything is kind of the same grey tone in spots where it should vary. If you need to, buy some 6B or higher pencils are even just go to charcoal and try that stuff out. It's much easier to push values with a softer medium. Good work.
Zeit - Good values on this one and good facial form. Only thing bugging me is the left eye from the viewer's perspective. It's off according to that facial angle. Keep working at it, sorry I didn't get to welcome you, last few days have been rough for me.
Mia - Welcome to the fun little shindig that is Self-Portrait of the Day. I like the second SP, especially the lips, the facial features seem to be a little out of alignment in spots. Keep contributing, it'll be great to see a female face in the crowd of men in here :D Yeah, the lines on the neck on that one became pretty mechanical, I really wasn't having much fun when doing that one. :)
Keyth - Thanks for the PM. I like the last SP you did, you have a large Jay Leno chin thing going on there :D
Lionel - Great last set of SP's you posted. Where are the pencil drawings you said you'd do? :D Good stuff.
Cotron - Welcome to the thread. I like the second of yours a lot. Has a ghosty feeling to it.
Wetter - I know what you mean. I learned that I still have way too much to learn. As Nordstrand came to the realization of, I thought it'd get easier as I did more, but it's becoming even more difficult. I'm noticing more value wise on the face, but my forms are getting all screwed up again, I may need to refresh myself, it's almost like I'm not thinking and analyzing when doing these anymore, it seems like I'm just going through the motions if you know what I mean. I like the texture on this one, how did you do it?
Daarken - Wonderful SP's man, your stuff is great. I like the suggestive shadows in the second one, good stuff.
Jhibbs - Those inkwashes are beautiful. This second one is turning out great. Great stuff man. The right side of the face in your SP with the reflective light seems to flatten out a bit, might want to be careful of that. Keep working at it bud, your improving.
Have a great Wednesday everyone, hopefully I can do acouple more tomorrow night, god knows I need the practice. Take it easy everyone. Excuse any typos or babble :)
October 16th, 2002, 09:09 AM
Blackhawk - I'm glad I could make you laugh you seem to be down lately...yeah I keep making proportional mistakes so I made my canvas the "blackboard" in the classroom...that was my punishment for making bad proportions on that one.
Oblio (or should I call you Bozo the clown) - I didn't get to read your post until today and that is a great idea about measuring off the mirror etc...I will definitely try that tonight. Whatever it takes I will do to learn proportions...I don't really know what I am talking about yet but I guess it's like anything...when you learn the basics really really well then you are free to experiment with other things more fully.
Daarken - Your stuff rocks...I am not good enough yet at drawing to give you constructive criticism but I can be a cheerleader. I llike your stuff!
Jester - The nose on this one looks ten times better than the other ones I have seen. I am not sure if it looks like you but it looks more realistic this time. Keep it up.
jhibbs - I love the second one you posted. When I scanned up through the posts quickly it looked like a photograph to me. On closer inspection your proportions look a little off to me...I am not a good judge though obviously hehe.
Wetterschneider - I like your stuff...it's interesting to me to see your robots and to come over here to your SP's...they are a totally different style.
Well here's my newest one...tear it up...(I didn't try that trick on this one Oblio...I will tonight though)
October 16th, 2002, 10:34 AM
@ ´keyth... thanks :) i know there are serveral things wrong with it. i'll do better next time.
@ oblio thanks .. and .. see above.
@ wetterschneider.. thanks, i know, i'm absolutly lost when shall paint an ear without reference (it was just the half of the ear visible on the photo)
@ jhibbs i love your second s-portrait. very nice shading and expression.
@ blackhawk .. thanks for the comment.
i really like your charcoal portrait.. it somehow disturbs me that i can't see your left eye.. shouldn't the pupil and the iris(english?) have the darkest values in this area.. ?
October 16th, 2002, 02:15 PM
Here a a few quick replies before I go home as I never seem to have time then :/. Sorry to all the people I didn't have time to reply to :/.
MindCandyMan: That last one has better proportions good work.
Blackhawk: I did some really bad pencil sketchs over the weekend but things have been hetic so haven't had time to scan them in :/. You shouldn't be so hard onyourself with your sp or you will dig yourself into a corner. They are looking good!!! keep them comming.
jester: Yep that mouth is a little small :/ nice sp.
daarken: wow nice atmosphere man :) and I love thouse marks in the earlier one.
miasmak: Yea definatly to small. I didn't have time to enlarge it recon I need to change the way I am painting to pick these things up earlier
jhibbs: Never get around to taking pictures of my oil stuff but I will one day :). Love thouse ink wash ones you have quite a talent there.
Wetterschneider: You a damm right I do need to try something new. I guess I haven't bacause I kinda know where I want to go with this painting stlye and I am using these sp to try and get there but I do need to branch out some more. It really is nice to see you self pusing yourself with new palets and textures.
cotron: I know I have nights where I just want to hide all my stuff benief filters but I think your are being overly hard on yourself.
keyth: Even the ones you say you lose look good to me :) I do try to reply to most people but sometimes I just run out of time :/
Oblio: I like thouse eyes :) nice to see you pushing yourself
miasmak: lol I see we have another for our headphone wearing crowd :)
zeitzeuge: I like that one it looks so peaceful
Orban: Still tired as ever :/ you are defintly getting more depth to your shading. It might help if you had a darker pencil
October 16th, 2002, 04:37 PM
Arghhhh, i've stretch myself :(
Lionel : take some rest my friend, it's not good to be tired as you are :( Take care! This Time i've used a 2B, I've forget my 6b
Blackhawk : you're too god with me :) I love your last one, really great!
Daarken : great sp... take care
jhibbs argh, you're good!
keyth : great sp :) it's going to pop, I can feel it! But with a better drawing I hope, this one suck!
Oblio : thanx :) This time I haven't move(or I think so), but... lol. I love your last one, it's really good, you're improving too :)
See ya :)
October 16th, 2002, 07:11 PM
I tried using painter chake tool today :) for a change an produced this. btw still haven't gotten around to scanning thouse pencils and getting pictures of my oil paintings :/
Orban: I am of to bed now you have got more darks with that last one :).
October 16th, 2002, 08:33 PM
playin with my new gray prismacolors.....i love these things
daarken: that's a pretty awesome sp, i used to have the exact same piercing...had it about a year, closed up overnight, came out in my sleep...sucked. :doh:
October 16th, 2002, 09:44 PM
Jester: lots better dont you think? that darker contrast under the cheek and on the left side works. push'em even harder next time to see what you get.
blackhawk....I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
mindcandies: keep pushing man. check the size of your forehead again. check, chec, che, ch, c....i'm getting tired.
orban: keep pushing man. i recommend you take a snapshot of yourself at this angle, blow it up to the same size, and then check your features. you may be amazed. it's funny how our eyes can decieve us. more, more, more.
lionel: it's good to see you use a different tool. how about playing around with different colors, or different perspective stuff. keep'em coming.
cotron: the piercing fairy should have left you a quarter. nice marker stuff....i need to get some of those. keep pushing.
everyone else...WHERE ARE YOU?????? KEEP'EM COM'N DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE.
October 16th, 2002, 09:53 PM
cotron: man that does suck. how long was it in for? i might have to take mine out if i wanna get a job, heh.
orban: thanks! watch your proportions.
mind: you dont have to be good in order to give criticism. everyone gets a feeling, or sees something good/bad about a piece no matter what their ability. dont put yourself down like that.
thanks to everyone else as well!
just trying out some good old andrew techniques.
October 16th, 2002, 10:02 PM
omg daaaaaaarken. dude this is one of my favorites in this entire thread. that kicks a$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16th, 2002, 10:34 PM
Wow, you have totally flipped my lid with your last two! I know i have already said it but now you are even more excellent!
October 16th, 2002, 10:45 PM
daarken-nice one, the way the bruhstrokes curve helps show the form really well, and the red in the hair is a great touch... i stared at that one for quite awhile :p
keyth-heres mine for tonight, i spent a lot longer on it than usual, i think takin my time helps a lot. still got a ways to go though. im starting to really like painter more though. the brushes i was using didnt have bristle control, but thats because i had the dab type set to something funny i guess. i switched it to 'static bristle' and put the thickness and clumpiness way up. what size do you usually work at?
October 17th, 2002, 12:02 AM
Jhibbs - d-d-d-amnn, that sp is one of the best I've seen. Tight color control, great eye detail.
Sorry mine's a little loose this evening. I tried to switch out to yet another medium and bit off more than I could chew.
October 17th, 2002, 02:15 AM
Thanks guys, I see some real progress here keep it up :) I've started threads under
'the importance of sketchbooks' and 'sketches and doodles' been busy just coming up
with imaginative stuff lately, that'd be the concept artist in me :D ha ha
October 17th, 2002, 03:30 AM
keyth and jon: wow, i dont know what to say. thank you for your very kind words!! for some reason i really dont like this one...but im glad you like it! :D
ruby: arggg! get angry! good job! you did a very good job in getting your teeth wrapping around your head.
lionel: youre doing a very good job. now i think its time for you to take it further and drop in some kind of background to hold it all together.
October 17th, 2002, 03:54 AM
I tried I promised I tried to spend longer on this one. It all went a bit muddy in the end and the light changed.
The eyes and mouth are pointing in the same direction but the nose isn't.
gotta run, I'll post some feedback soon
October 17th, 2002, 03:54 AM
ruby genesis looks awesome!
that is so much bull crap! that did not take you 15 minutes! no way!
October 17th, 2002, 06:35 AM
This is today's sp. ... ;) :D just kidding :D
This is the earliest selfportrait I could find, drawn in January 2001.
THIS is today's
Felt like smiling today and so tried a new expression (Wetterschneider reminds me to keep this in mind every day) :D I think that the lower lip isn't right somehow. And probably I got carried away with the dark shadows, done with a 3B pencil. Let me know what you think.
@Blackhawk - that charcoal piece isn't bad at all - and inspired me to be a bit more bold on my shadows as well.
@MindCandyMan - Nose and lips show improvement. Take a look at Loomis' Drawing the head and hands - I studied it the past three days and it helped me a lot. Especially his explanations of the planes of a face are helpful!
@Lionel - ahhh, regular service :D ; funny, though it's chalk today it looks similar to your normal technique.
@Orban - my god, such a long nose ;) Yep, you stretched your face, hurrying?
@cotron - yep, markers are cool. :cool:
@keyth - thanks, yes, I'm getting there, slowly but steadily. Very posh expression in yours today ;) Why do all you people constantly wear headphones?
@daarken - when I see your sp's I get the strong urge to try color again. Nice lighting.
@jhibbs - taking more time shows. Good one!
@Wetterschneider - this cell phone troubles me more than the different medium. Looks wrong perspective-wise
@rubygenesis - wow!
@miasmak - like this one, depite the mistakes you spotted yourself.
October 17th, 2002, 06:46 AM
Hey guys, sorry for my wave of negativity the last couple of days. When I don't feel well, I really get down on myself.
I decided to step away from the machine for awhile, maybe a long time, and just practice my traditional. I really don't like the feeling of the Wacom still, and normal pencils just feel much better and intuitive to me. I also want to start doing traditional painting as well, but all I have are acrylics and they are a nightmare for a painting newbie like me. Everything dries too fast on the palette. I might spring for a stay-wet palette, just heard of them recently. Hopefully it'll make acrylics much more managable to use. Anyways, did this tonight, much more pleased with the outcome of this than others. My scanner butchered the hell out of the values though, I think I may be dumping this thing soon, it doesn't scan any of my artwork correctly. I can't remember how long it took me, I just enjoyed my time while doing it and zoned out. It was a nice relaxer. This was done with a straight 3B on an 11x14 Strathmore sketchpad.
MindCandy - Lol, yeah, that was a good crackup for me. It's good to see you trying hard to fix up those proportions. If you look in the Life Drawing forum, there is a thread where Jon Foster provides some excellent tips to proportions. I can't remember if you've posted in there or not, most likely you have. Just check that out, he provides some excellent guidelines. Oh, and as Daarken pointed out, don't be afraid to crit. Just because you don't think you can draw well yet, doesn't mean you don't have eyes. My parents and friends can't draw worth a lick and they can always pick out faults, especially if my father sees any of my stuff. It's funny because he never says they are good, he goes for flat out honesty and just starts pointing out stuff that looks wrong to him. I love him for that, an honest critique. Usually your parents are supposed to boost your ego :D Not mine.
Zeit - Yes, the pupil and Iris should have been there, but I was so burned out on that SP that I stopped, I really didn't feel like screwing up more :D Either way, I'm just glad that one is behind me :)
Lionel - Thanks for the comment. Yeah, I get hard on myself when I'm down or not doing well. I'm truly my own worst critic and I can get downright nasty when it comes to how I feel about my work :D I'm getting a red X on your piece :( Hopefully you fix it when you get up, I haven't seen the piece yet.
Orban - Thanks :) Keep pushing those values darker. If you have a light or spotlight, point it to one side of the face, get a really dark and harsh shadow on the other side, and inbetween should be plenty of values to work with. Don't be afraid to go darker. Keep working at it bud.
Keyth - Thanks :) Your stuff is superb. I just recently saw your pencil concept sketches, I was floored. The values in them are superb. I click-saved every one of them.
Daarken - Those strokes are great. Your stuff is absolutely superb man.
Jhibbs - Your best color SP yet. The eyes are awesome. Great stuff.
Wetter - I still recognize you, hand didn't come out too strong though. Good to see you experimenting though. Keep at it bud :)
Ruby - This is an awesome SP. The hair, oh the hair, it's wild. The teeth are superb as well. Great job.
Mia - Looking better, but as you've pointed out, just watch out for the feature placement. Proportions look good though. Keep at it. I wish I could help more, but my stuff has been pretty shaky as of late though, so I'm still looking for the solution myself :D
Jester - Thanks, atleast some positive came off of it I see :D Your SP, I love it, your best yet man. I'm seeing much improvment out of you. Favorite area is the mouth and the chin, you executed the shadow and light in there well.
Have a great Thursday everyone. Can't wait to see the new stuff tomorrow night. Later everyone.
October 17th, 2002, 07:12 AM
man this is frustrating my coloring seems to be weird. I want to do some colors other than flesh tones, but they end up looking slapped on and not helping make the face, what are you guys doing when your not using skin tones, are you just using complentary colors or something.
October 17th, 2002, 08:08 AM
This is what an 6hr vodka binge yeilds, it was good fun.
I'm collecting all the spod's from my trip and I'll post them somewhere soon.
There's so many of your works I've missed, got to catch up......but I'll have to wait til my connect is back up, right now I'm stuck using dail-up and the threads are taking a lifetime. Will reply to all you works soon. =)
October 17th, 2002, 08:55 AM
Last night wasn't a good night at all for me. So I'm sorry that you guys have to take part in my suffering by looking at my disproportionate self portrait. I will try again tonight. The Halo and the other thing...well yeah...I wasn't feeling good that's the only excuse I guess.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Drawing 38 self portrait.jpg
Blackhawk - Yeah I saw foster's post last night...I was posting in that forum. I am gonna read it more in depth tonight so hopefully that will help. I want to read that loomis book over the weekend too and practice drawing some heads and hands so we will see how that goes. I liked this self portrait...but the shading under your neck creates a weird area. Your right ear looks a little weird. You know it's funny you mention that about your dad. My wife is the same way...she came in this morning and looked at this self portrait and said, "That doesn't look like you...Your chin doesn't look like that, etc..." hehe...I love her for it as well.
hed|lamb - I really like this one. Your face is elongated but I kind of like it. I like the sketchy nature of it.
Madman - I like this one. I'm not sure how you would do this but maybe try to blend it a little more.
Jester - I really like this self portrait. The shading is a little heavy but it doesn't bother me too much. The nose looks way better than I ever seen you do it. I think you shaded the "crevices" on either side of your lips a little too dark. I think you are right about the lips too I think they extend horizontally too far. But wow great work man. You can see the obvious progression of your skills from last january but I can even see you progressing from last week. Great stuff man.
miasmak - I actually like the muddy nature of it. I think it's kind of cool. The head is shifted slightly to the left though I think. I like the rendering you did of the hair. Keep posting.
daarken - I have to agree with keth and jon...that is a great sp. It has so much character and I love the color scheme. You really achieved a nice "3d" effect with it as well...great job. Good call about being more honest. That's what people really need to hear anyways. The wounds of a friend are better than the praises of an enemy right?
rubygenesis - I love the expression you were able to capture. Really great job...wow 15 minutes...that's awesome. I think there is something disproportionate about the head somewhere...can't pinpoint it though.
cotron - I like the look of this portrait. I would have done away with those "single" shade lines that are on your (in the picture) right cheek and your right forehead. I think they take away from the image.
lionel - It's getting better. I would like to see you have a try at some different skin tones just to see. I bet you would come up with some cool stuff.
Orban - I hate it when I stretch myself. I do it all the time in my drawings...I hate that. I feel your pain.
October 17th, 2002, 10:01 AM
shots go out to hedlamb today. welcome back bro.:chug:
October 17th, 2002, 12:51 PM
Uhmm, I feel I'm far from it, my mother nearly recognise me this time ;)
MindCandyMan Hard to not stretch himself, eh? ;)
Blackhawk : Uhmm, I'm thinking of trying the same shading as your last :) I will push on it ;)
Jester : yeah, my parents ask me to shut down the music :(
Keyth : yeah I know, my eye decieve me last time, but hell, I don't have check enough my proportion ;) I will take some snapshot of my head, but when a friend with a numeric cam come by my house ;) Thanks for the advice, I love your last :)
Lionel uh uh, it's coming, nearly it :) I'm thinking of trying in color with watercolor or with gouache, I dunno. As allways, yours is great :)
Daarken : no prob, just continue to impress me :)
See ya :)
October 17th, 2002, 02:37 PM
jhibbs: see it ain't that hard right? awesome!!!
wetters: that's really creepy in a weird sort of way...maybe it's the cel phone.:p
ruby: wait a minute...that's creepy too. daarken...you creeped everyone out!!!!!!!!:p
mia: when things get muddy...it's time to get the soap out and start cleaning that painting up.:p
jester: keeps getting better and better. keep'em coming.
madman: how's it going? sometimes i will use complimentary colors. some other times i'll just experiment in order to fail and get back up again. sometimes it's fun to just paint what you see but pull the color on the palette just a little to the right or left. mess around. see you your eyes like and don't like. keep'em com'n.
hedlamb: nice one. welcome back once again. it's nice to see a familiar face. where did you go i can't remember...was it costa rica or something?
candyman: throw some values in there buddy. stare at the shapes on your face and give it a whirl...who knows what can happen. more, more, more..
orban: i like this one. your eyes seem to be picking things up. keep'em com'n.
this one goes out to daarken. your last one was so kick ass. i had you in mind when i did this one. cheers mate.
October 17th, 2002, 06:17 PM
The ladies are rocking... very beautifull
@orban - Master Jon Foster has belessed us with a small tutorial in "schoolyard - Life Drawing Sector" Check That Out.
darken, jhibbs, blackhawk, hed|lamb - OMG. Kick Ass portraits guys... :bow:
@keyth - who's the creepy one? Chck your PM's - and clean up a bit the inbox! Dammit! :p :chug:
@lionel - mind that nose friend..
@cotron - welcome. more
@Madman! - welcome too. (put some more work on it mate)
October 17th, 2002, 06:38 PM
Something a little different :). I will not be able to post for a bit as I am moving house. :/ It will take me a while to get cable but I may be able to post some from work. We will have to see. Anyway I will be checking this thread out from work so keep them commming and I will still be watching you ;)
keyth: Damm that last one is the bees nuts :) very very cool :). And the shading on the previous one is just perfect I am very envious
Orban: DON'T lose heart you are imporing but it all takes time. You might find it helps to do some copies of how other people aproach shading and cross hatching with pens. It will give you a feel for what marks you should be aiming for
MindCandyMan: Well here are some different skin tones :). You feature placement is definatly improving keep at it
hed|lamb: Damm thats one cool sp. Missed you stuff look foward to a triumphant return
Madman!: Well I try to vary my colors in the same realative ways (hue saturation and value) as when painting with real skin colors but I am not nearly as good at it as other so best to listen to their advice
Blackhawk: Well hard on yourself or not you MUST be happy with that last piece really well done imho
jester: I manage to make all the tools look the same :/. Just seeing thouse portrats side by side you can see how much you have improved
miasmak: Nice to see you being adventurious with you skin tones nice work.
rubygenesis: damm 15 mins to produce something that good. awesome.
Wetterschneider: It is always so impressive to see you pusing yourself.
jhibbs: Your color gets better each time though I think the eyes are a little big on that one
daarken: WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That one is aweome please do some more like that one. I read you comment about a background to late for this one but will add one soon :)
cotron: Nice technique I have never tried playing with markers one day :).
Oblio: You sneeked in infront of me. I like that last one and my house mate who was looking over my shoulder siad he loved it so you must be doing something right
October 17th, 2002, 07:47 PM
You're all amazing, every single one of you!
Nothing like a hiatus (finals week for me) to make you realize this is one of the best damn art threads in the entire universe!
October 17th, 2002, 10:51 PM
everyone, thanx for comments on my last one, hope i can keep improving this much.
lionel-woa, very different from your norm. looks good
keyth-awesome, your latest ones have been a lot more experimental, im likin it. cool brush i see your still using, getting a feel for it any better?
oblio-i see your doin the expression thing too eh? nice work.
sorry for the quicky guys, got a lot to do tonight, im going home for fall break (a long weekend). ill be back in a few days. though ill try to post from home, i wont be able to post images.
about 45 min,
October 18th, 2002, 12:26 AM
hehe.. yay.. i'm back :)
thanks for the comments everyone :)
jhibbs: awesome work for a quickie!
lionel: very nice :) I guess all colors work if the values are correct!
Oblio: very nice.. I am sure that if I see you walking around somewhere irl then I'll be able to recognise you :D
keyth: eek! awesome work :D
Orban: very nice .. the only thing I can suggest is.. the shape of the eyes can probably improve... shape them better and that well make it reaaally good.
MindCandyMan: cool :) the proportions seem pretty good.. the main thing is the lack of shading.. this is what I have started doing.. I shade the whole thing medium.. then I get the darks marked semi lightly.. then I erase the lights.. and then shape the lights.. and then pretty much confidently darken and erase stuff.. but thats me.. i'm sure others can give you better tips
hed|lamb: wow.. I love that.. wow.. *thumbs up*
great work everyone else.. I have to leave... i'll give more comments later cya
October 18th, 2002, 12:38 AM
Lionel - I really like this one a lot. It's a refreshing change from the norm. I should take my own advice.
Thenetbox - I'm digging the scalp at the part and the left eye. It won't hurt to rough in the shoulder and chest area, even loosely it would add a lot.
Oblio - rocking expression.
Keyth - hmm, this one is so cool, I'm thinking it's time to try a zombie version of myself - you know, for Halloween.
hed|lamb - pow! man, that's very very nice. I remember your earlier pieces, but then you were gone by the time I joined up, I'm glad to see that you've come back.
Jester - incredible improvement. Keep going.
October 18th, 2002, 03:05 AM
wetter: i like the brush strokes on this one, very nice.
lionel: ahhh!! its eggplant lionel! heh, nice experimentation with the colors. and thank you! i might try some more like that.
keyth: i dont know what to say! im very flattered! heh. this one is totally sweet. i really like the transitions and how you just fade away. more dark scarry portraits from you! i demand it!!
hed: awwww yeah. great brush strokes, great textures, great sp!!! looking forward to your next one.
blackhawk: wow! i am really impressed. it seems like pencil is your medium. nice line direction in showing form. only thing i would say is watch the hardness of the line on your sideburns since hair is very soft. hard edges on the hairline will tend to flatten things or make it look like a toupee.
ok, let me explain. today has been a very bad drawing day. i spent 10.5 hours of class today totally sucking. i was already frustrated when i came home and ended up doing 3 sp's and trashing the first two before i came up with this one. hope you guys like.
October 18th, 2002, 03:24 AM
@coron subtle shading in the neck and chin works better for me than the forehead
@keyth can't see anything but fortunecity, even in IE
@daarken cool expression and placement on the canvas (again) I love your bold marks. The bottom lip makes this one
@jhibbs excellent colour choices on the dark side of the face. The light side of the lips bother be a bit, not sure why
@wettershneider aah you are trying a medium in which you aren't so confident. hand and phone distracts but the eyes pierce.
@rubygenesis acurate drawing that conveys a lot of don't-leave-her-alone-with-the-bread-knife I like the loose frame the hair makes, it makes me zoom in on the face detail
@jester wow what an improvement. light side specs and eye carefully observed
@blackhawk yup you had a fun yet controlled zone on this one. Looks like you are holding a marble in your mouth (hope I am not insulting your looks :D)
@madman! the colours are ok for me here by the drawing is a little stylized It may help if you tried to look carefully where the dark and light areas are and what their shapes are.
@hed|lamb don't mess with the man with the hangover there :) I like the forehead bone structure definition the bridge of the nose seems off (hope I am not insulting your looks either :D)
@mindcandyman the feature proportions look fine. sensitive line work around the nose, compared to say the neck or hair. I can see you paid attention to those areas.
@orban aha, a shorter nose, now the forehead seems too tall
@keyth this one I can see, scary
@oblio love the orange in the face and the wide eyes, the viewer leftside of the face doesn't need the grey line imo
@lionel trippy and still recognisably you, the mouth still seems small to me
@jhibbs I think I prefer the quick ones, they seem looser in the good sense, maybe some other style for experimentation?
@thenetbox intense eyes and cool eyebrows
@wetterschneider definitely more confident than the previous one
@daarken do we like it, what a question ... demonically cool, dig the scratchy background
October 18th, 2002, 03:46 AM
shit seems i cant stop. maybe im a bit more addicted than i thought, or maybe i feel my dick is too short or perhaps i just feel like a damn idiot.
my life is a mess
October 18th, 2002, 04:07 AM
@retro002Quasimodo, its youu!, not supposed to stop., I like no 4 the best.
@all Question? I read somewhere that it is best to start a portrait/selfportrait from the eyes and work out. I read elsewhere that it is best to get the shape of the bones, skull etc in place first. Which do you think? we can take this outside to another thread if this is not the appropriate place.
October 18th, 2002, 04:11 AM
~retro: love the line quality keep it up
~daarken: your dramatic lighting rocks, so much anger, me likes
~keyth: very nice, is that with painter?
heres another quickie I did a week or 2 ago just layed it out with tria markers, hmm too much crack?
October 18th, 2002, 04:30 AM
daarken that one looks great I love the mood, thats what I'm trying to go for in my last one.
I just did a quick one nothing special. I can't look into the mirror to long without wanting to say what are you looking at dork.
October 18th, 2002, 05:22 AM
@miasmak: it depends on the author which he thinks to be the best start. for example i usually start up with the nose. having sketched with a skilled illustrator some days ago, who really banged in a portrait in 10 mins, he told me he usually starts with the eyes, but i shouldnt take this bad habit. as said people prefer different approaches, but i think the "best" way is to start out with the outline of the head. it makes it easiest to place the whole portrait on the sheet youre drawing on, which is only limited possible if you start "inside" the head... at least makes sense to me. about the bones i think thats overdoing it, try to work out the different values, when you got the outline, after that go on detailing. another good thing is, when you start with outline is that you can after 10 to 15 minutes say it's finished, of course you can work on details&light/shadows, but you can stop anytime an always gotta portrait done. - hope you get what i mean my english keeps getting worse...
October 18th, 2002, 05:35 AM
Not satisfied with this one, I think my last two are better. Anyway, I felt like trying a different paper and medium today.
Thanks for all your help - this is a great place. :D
@ Blackhawk - nice one
@Madman - don't know what's your problem, your blue portrait looks good, the sketchy grey one, too
@hed|lamb - portrait looks a bit too elongated. And another for those headphones... ;)
@MindCandyMan - check your ears! and throw in some tone. Nose is quite nice already. Don't just read the Loomis but work from it. Copy his drawings (especially the ones where he explains the planes of the face- helped me a lot!) Thanks for the praise :)
@Orban - though the hatching seems a bit hurried I like it. Try to draw the lower line of your eyes lighter (it's rather a fine double line) and spend more time on your glasses. Mine bother me, too and I always draw them last when I want o get finished, but I found that badly executed glasses cn spoil the whole portrait.
@keyth - OMG, last night's nightmare ;)
@Oblio - surprised!
@Lionel - reminds me of seventies' disco lights ;)
@jhibbs - good one, though would there be more wrinkles on the half with the closed eye and resulting from that some distortion of the mouth?
@thenetbox - one of the eyes is at a wrong position but I can't decide which one. When I cover the left half of your sp it looks ok, same when covering the right half, but seen fully it looks wring somehow. Execution of skin colour and shading is very nice, though.
@wetterschneider - thanks; I'm always impressed by the variety of expression, colour and style in your sp's!
@daarken - your eyebrows seem to have a life of its own, very creepy.
@retro002 - one day I have to try an sp your style! The stoned again one would make a good label for absinth ;) the green fairy...
@rubygenesis - like the hair and shadow rendering, but your eyes and glasses show that it was a quicky. I just wonder: are the green dots the result of an earlier drawing or did you throw them in intentionally?
October 18th, 2002, 05:42 AM
@miasmak - I produce better portraits when starting with the outer oval shape form and sketch in a few helplines. I think the reason why some professionals start with the eyes is twofold:
1) it's because you can usually only throw away a portrait when the eyes are wrong - and when doing speed portraits in a mall or somewhere, you can't afford this as an artist.
2) professional might see the guidelines I have to draw because of their long experience
Hmm, and 3) (so much for twofold...) I think it's sort of showing off, because when drawing the eyes first and then the rest it's sort of a magical experience for those who watch the artist...
October 18th, 2002, 06:51 AM
I know I said I was going to stay away from the computer for awhile, but I was itching to do a color piece, and I still didn't get the stay-wet palette yet, so I had to get on the machine again :) This took me about 1 hour, 30 minutes. I can't remember how many different brushes I used. This was a major experimental piece for me. I started out blending a lot, but it looked artificial and boring to me, so I just started grabbing all the hardest brushes and doing hard strokes all over, using many small planes of light instead of the big planes that I usually do. It was new to me, not sure how well it came out, but it was damn fun. I really enjoyed this one. I hope you all enjoy it too.
Madman - Honestly, I don't know enough about coloring theory or anything dealing with color for that matter. I just takes bits and pieces from observing and try to match colors with values. If a color looks horribly wrong next to another color, I change it. I just basically use my eyes to pick my colors, I don't really plan it. I should probably learn about color theory though, it'd probably benefit me greatly :D Nice SP's, the eyes on the second one are my favorite. Very bold style you have.
Hed - Sweet portrait and welcome back. I love the simplicity of the strokes on this one. Very nice, how was the trip?
MindCandy - This one isn't looking bad at all. Your proportions are coming together bit by bit (I feel like I've already said this :D, if I did, I'm sorry :)) On my SP, the neck, hair, and ear bugged me. In fact, a lot of spots bugged me on my last one, but I was generally satisfied enough to show it. I learned what areas I need to work on though, real good learning exercise for me.
Orban - Those values are starting to get there, it's good seeing you push it more and more. Keep working at it bud, your improving.
Keyth - This is the damn creepiest SP I've seen you post, awesome. I'm thinking of doing my face melting off a skull tomorrow, all thanks to you. :) This one gave me some nice inspiration. Great job man.
Oblio - Thanks man. Your stuff is getting so much better man. Life drawing helps out tremendously and your stuff is showing it big time. Awesome, great SP. I like the eyes on this one.
Lionel - Thanks :) It's good to see you experimenting. The colors on this one remind me of a movie, but I can't quite place my finger on it. Good stuff man, I'll be looking forward to the new stuff when you get back.
Jhibbs - Great SP man. The lips are much improved on this one, as well as the eyes. Have a good weekend.
Thenetbox - Scalp area and eyes on this are very nice. Mouth looks off angle though. I like this one a lot though, my favorite of yours so far.
Wetter - I like the bold strokes on this one, very well done. Good job man.
Daarken - What, you didn't know I wore a toupee?
Kidding :D. Thanks for the advice on it. The hair was the one thing bugging, I'll soften it up next time. Thanks. Now, to your SP, this is my favorite of yours so far, absolutely beautiful. The tentacles coming off the side give it a really creepy touch, awesome work bud.
Mia - Thanks :D Nah, don't worry about it, I have such a low self-image anyways, nothing you could say could bring it any lower :D lol On my SP's, I usually start with the head outline, it's just the way I work and what I'm comfortable with. But I'll mix it up one of these days and do the eyes first, I always wanted to try that approach.
Retro - Awesome shit man. I love these little prize packages you keep dropping in every once inawhile. Awesome stuff.
Ruby - Nice quickie. I love how you render the hair on these. I wish I had a better mop on my head to draw in my SP's, but I'm too lazy to take care of it so I buzz it all off. Hmm, maybe I can buy some wigs and mix it up :D
Jester - Thanks :) I like this one actually, the medium and the paper fit together nicely. Very well done.
Well, have a great Friday everyone.
October 18th, 2002, 07:49 AM
cool blackhawk thats a great one, man those eyes look great. When my eyes wonder the picture they end up right back at the eyes they catch my eye first.
Here is another one I tried using different brushes(like all of them) I don't know why I added the lines the vain lines. I thought it looked cool and was getting bored.
October 18th, 2002, 09:46 AM
I hate the human face...
Blackhawk - I tried to throw some values in there Blackhawk...but I didn't finish the whole image because the proportions were so off so I didn't see the point. BTW I love the last portrait you did...love the color scheme.
Jester - I am gonna print out that Loomis book and work from it this weekend. Good suggestion. Good job on the last portrait!
Madman - I like the blue one. The proportions are a little off but I like the color scheme/theme you have going on.
Lionel - I really like the color scheme. Good job man. Keep em coming.
jhibbs - this one looks really good. I really like it good job...that one eye closed must have been hard. Good job man.
rubygenesis - crack or no crack I like it.
retro - good stuff man...keep em coming. I like the green one.
Oblio - Wow I really like the latest one...Great job man...really good.
Wetter & Daarken - You guys are freakin amazing. How long did it take you to get to this point? Do either of you save your painter scripts. I would love to get ahold of one and see how you do your self portraits...thanks.
Keyth - I love the creepy one...wow really scary. :evilbat:
Orban - I see a vast improvement. Keep em coming man you are doing great. Keep working on your proportions...we all know I suck at them....we will work on them together.
October 18th, 2002, 01:22 PM
mind: hey, i think you are getting a lot better! i still have a lot of problems with proportion. especially if im working on newsprint with charcoal :P. keep going.
retro: its good to see you doing some new things.
jester: just wondering how old you are? because by eliminating some of the lines and creases around your mouth and nose will take off like 20 years. i can see your progress, keep at it.
blackhawk: hahahaha! by the way, nice lighting on the last one. i like the shadow shapes created from your nose.
madman: i see a lot of improvement just between your last two. just watch the brightness of your eyes. squint down and see what the value is. are they really that white?? and remember that the eye is a sphere, so it gradates as it turns. it is usually the darkest at the top where the eye ball goes under the eyelid.
October 18th, 2002, 01:36 PM
yeah, i drew that with just the light from a small tv in my dark bedroom one night, but i like the feel it gives. the green dots are from a previous page in the sketchbook but i chose to draw over them for a different result..
October 18th, 2002, 08:10 PM
OB: love the tude in that one.
lionel: it's great to see you play w/some different colors. and that you very much.
snowfly: good to hear from you....where ya at?
jhibbs: keep it up man. they're looking good good good. thanks for the kind words. i usually use a round camelhair or captured bristle. i feel as though i was more experimental with brushes a while ago...perhaps i will try something different tomorrow.
netbox: i dropped a line in your other forum. AWESOME!!!!
wetters: thanks! i like the strokes on this one probably most out of all of yours. keep em com'n.
daarken: let's start a creepfest. i'm into it!! that ones NICE.
thanks for the kind words.
mia: keep trying it should work.
retro: those are great bro. good to see you regularly again.
ruby: thanks a lot!!! yes it's with painter. i have grown so fond of this little program. however sooooooooo much to learn. keep'em com'n. it's looking nice.
madman: sharp lines. looks good. keep'em com'n on a daily basis buddy.
jester: it's good practice to use that mid tonal paper stuff. look'n good. sorry but i have to give you another nightmare.
blackhawk: if you need to vent...this is the place where you are more than welcome to do it. that peice is NICE! look at that eyeball. yummy. keep'em com'n. THANKS!
madman: lesson number one: don't get bored. he he.
mindcandy: try to do some shape studies in your face. set up some high contrast light and stare at what is light and what is dark. then slap those tones down. you don't necessarily have to post it or anything but it will enchance your skills immensely.
October 18th, 2002, 08:47 PM
keyth: hell ya! that is saweet! right back at ya!
October 19th, 2002, 12:17 AM
This is a pretty sick thread!
October 19th, 2002, 01:16 AM
October 19th, 2002, 04:52 AM
not the best i've done, but not all that bad considering what time it is and the 3.5 hours in which i was prodded with a bundle of needles this morning....guh
daarken-i had that piercing for about a year or so, something like that...completely closed up in a matter of hours..
October 19th, 2002, 06:51 AM
Hey guys. Today was a good productive art day for me, from the moment I got up to the moment I go to sleep I just drew, painted, drew, painted, drew, painted. One of the most satisfying days I've had in a long time. Was a nice ending to a bad, bad week :)
Anyways, I did these two self-portraits today. First one I wasn't too satisfied with. I wanted to try a different stroke and pallette, but I fell back into my old comfort zone, which I did not want to happen. I'm going to try for some acrylics tomorrow instead. I finally got the stay-wet, so hopefully that makes acrylics managable for my slow ass self. The second one was a take off of Fosters ink portrait from the life drawing thread. I used him as inspiration, but I accidentally did a near identical head pose to his :( Either way, it was a quick, fun SP. I hope you guys and gals enjoy.
Painter 7 - 2 hours, Round Camelhair/Captured Bristle/Smeary Flat
Painter 7 - 5 minutes Ink tools Smooth Bristle/ Velocity Sketcher
Madman - Thanks :) You should never get bored, get frustrated, but don't get bored. If you are getting bored with your SP's, try a new style, new tools, a new approach. Throw a monkey wrench into the equation. I love feeling frustrated to an extent because it means I'm being challenged. If I'm being challenged, it makes the SP that much more satisfying when I work around the problem and finish. The only reason I can keep doing these day after day is because of this great forum and the constant pressure to try something new and to better myself bit by bit. Try to carry that focus into your SP's, you'll find that you'll enjoy them more. Almost approach it like sports or a game. They are always boring if you aren't being challenged, but the moment you hit that brick wall, then it makes it interesting. Keep at it bud :)
MindCandy - Thanks. Your stuff is getting there, memorize how facial proportions work though and always be mindful of them when working on your SP's. Keep it up.
Daarken - Thanks. This SP is sick as hell, I love it man. Your stuff is so dynamic, I wish I had that creative variety going on in mine. Awesome.
Keyth - Thanks. Another sweet one from you. I love the mask that you did. Nothing like cramming two SP's into one :D Awesome man, great job.
Hunter - Welcome and great SP. I love the pinks and reds you have on the nose and cheek. Very, very nice SP. Only thing that looks funky to me is the ear, but the face on it is outstanding. Nice way to come in with a bang :)
Littlejohn - Welcome back, was wondering where you disappeared to. I like the eyes on this one, very sweet SP. I like your style, keep it up and post more :D
Cotron - Good form on this one, be careful of your values though. Your getting good contrast, but try wrapping some of your strokes around features, it'll give the face more dimension. Good work :)
Enjoy your Saturday's everyone. Take it easy.
October 19th, 2002, 07:12 PM
here you are, a greenie
Value study using only six values and then some because of the schoolyard thread
ALso I started with the eyes and measured as much as I could in eye lengths in a separate layers.
then I had enough of green and need some uh .. red
now for some feedback
@rubygenesis still accurate proportions even if it was quick
@madman definite improvement in this one, the sharp black lines on the edges of the shadows on the face bother me
@jester the two white dots in the eyes give the portait an extremely intense look as if you are aiming to spit I like the pen and chalk on mid tone paper
@blackhawk, dramatic lighting.
@nadnan the colour choice I like, the veins bother me too
@mindcandyman no-one said its going to be easy, that's what makes it satisfying to do. The proportions don't look that bad, it just looks as if you got fedup in the middle.I haven't been following your progress from the beginning, but I can see the improvement in the last three drawings.
@keyth sniff, sigh its orange, red and black its a fortunecity logo
@daarken, cool hand, hey the lip ring jumped to the other side?!?
@hunter pleased to meet you, veryrealistic
@littlejohn pleased to meet you too, careful value study
@cotron better than before
@blackhawk no. 1, mmm you read the tut about proportions and measurements it'w working. no 2; yawn on my way to bed myself cool higlights on the forehead
October 19th, 2002, 08:11 PM
:scared: - a spider...
(i wonder if this one ate sparth's monkey)
October 19th, 2002, 10:25 PM
Sorry for not posting, but I have left my sketchbook in Chicago (similar to leaving one's heart in San Fransisco). I literally have neither surfed nor even touched the internet in two weeks. I'm home for about 14 or 16 hours and had to see how everyone was doing. In a word: fantastic. I am physically and tempoarlly unable to make all of the comments I'd like or even drop names due to the sheer volume of quality work and emerging artists on this thread alone.
I haven't done an SP in about three or four days, but you have reinvigorated me and I thank you. Take care and I hope to be able to post in a couple more weeks.
October 19th, 2002, 11:03 PM
mia: yeah, it depends on whether i work from the mirror or a camera.
blackhawk: i really like the inked one! but the left eye in it is a little distracting and out of place.
hunter: sweet! nice to have you aboard! very nice sp, good hand too.
i have this stupid gouache painting due monday, and i started it today and totally messed it up. i really really hate gouache, it is not my media. i can never get the consistency that my teachers want. i didnt have anymore illustration board here either, so i have to start all over tomorrow. i probably wont finish it for class monday, and i really dont care. so instead of hw i did this! oh yeah, and i did two quick tutorials for todays and yesterdays sp's that are on my webpage.
and here is a high res version (http://www.daarken.com/newnav/sod/10-19detail.jpg)
October 20th, 2002, 12:13 AM
Got a little carried away with this one, sorry about that.
I was browsing through some past posts and it looked as though everyone is just using a mirror. *Excellent* I did not for this one. If there is a 'mirror only' policy I appologize, I could not find any mention (didn't really look very hard though -modem connection and all).
daarken, miasmak, and Blackhawk- Hello! and Thank You for the kind words.
October 20th, 2002, 12:19 AM
I suck, period....it'll pass.
October 20th, 2002, 02:59 AM
Hey everyone. Thanks for your comments. I've been painting with acrylics all day, first time I've touched this stuff in 4 years. I did a self-portrait, it turned out decent enough, had some rough spots, but my scanner butchered the piece when I scanned it in. It completely killed the colors on my painting. I tried fixing it close to the original in photoshop, but it didn't work out too well. Sorry :( My next purchase is a new scanner, this thing isn't working well for traditional pieces. Enjoy everyone. Also, the original size of the canvas piece is 12x16, but the scanner could only scan the face. There's an extra 4 to 6 inches on either side that it's missing.
Acrylics on 12x16 Canvas pad. Used Mars Black, Titanium White, Burnt Umber, Cadmium Yellow, Cobalt Blue, Cadmium Red - 2 hours
Mia - Thanks :) Good job on the values. The facial features are lining up better in this one than your previous ones as well, although the nose and mouth seem to be at a slightly different angle than the eyes. Great job nonetheless :)
Daarken - Awesome job on this one man. Great tutorials too, just checked out your website. Great job on it. I'd like to get my own up, but I can't tear myself away from painting and drawing to do it. The closest I managed was the website logo, then I fell into my sketchbook again and forgot about it :) It'll be up one of these days.
Hunter - Incredible :O Awesome man. There isn't a mirror only policy. You can do the SP from any means possible, mirror, brain, photo, monitor screen reflection, whatever serves you best. I know daarken does a few of his from photographs, that's where his elusive flipped lip ring comes from :D
Hed - No way in hell do you suck man. This piece is sweet. I love the strokes you used on the face to model the form. Great job.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
October 20th, 2002, 03:35 AM
sat night....too many beers....drunk.
October 20th, 2002, 05:48 AM
ok, i'm frustated, i tried to render this sketch for the last hour on the computer but it came out totally crap...i give up i don't know how to paint and render on the computer i'm crap im gonna do my last sp ever now, holding a gun to my head or ... something:rolleyes: .!!
:eek: <<== sicko!
here's the sketch (5-10 mins):
the proportions are off, the head must be wider around the eyes, the nose is too long and for some mysterious reason, i look like an asian fisherman on the left side :confused:
:( :mad: :mad: i'm just posting this to let everyone know i'm not dead ...i have a week vacation now, so besides studying alot and making papers for school i'm going to draw alot now....
-mindcandy : :eek: :eek: :eek: i'm away for a week, and you improved soooooo much, how do you do it?:confused: keep it up :) try to focus more in the shape of the head...in that last sp you have litle to none jawbone :p
-blackhawk: :eek: :cool:
;) good job only the eyes look a bit off, but that's just me :)
-hunter: ! you rock
-everyone : hi everyone, good work!
/me runs off, smashes a crack in the wall, using only his head and a large joint as pain-killing medicine.
/me repeats this procedure 3 times trying to kill the whole house
/me decides he better stop banging his head, or he'll never make his exams.
whew, i feel better now:chug:
October 20th, 2002, 05:51 AM
did you know, there is a limit to the amount of smilies that may be included in ones post?
October 20th, 2002, 05:14 PM
OMG - what a bunch of GREAT SP's - I AM AMAZED!
So.. I was at this guy (working on something) and i've noticed that his light bulb is attached to a mirror thingy... get my scetchbook out of my backpack and... :eek: crazy ..
He couldn't talk me over it... anyway.. if you can try this.. go for it.. it's a damn experience... (i was seing my drawing in the mirror and i've tried to draw a single line mirorred.. it's... dope :D)
Gotta go. :chug:
October 20th, 2002, 06:00 PM
crawled outta bed and up to my drawing table...gah over slept and grumpy...
aprox 1 hour with ballpoint pen and alcohol wash some pencil crayon highlights. i let my right eye slip over a bit, i kinda felt that way, maybe due to the splitting pain in the center of my forehead..heh.
~daarken: i really like that one, strong mood with those colors
~miasmak: greens kewl, i like the hair
~Blackhawk: wow canvas, very nice. im a watercolor/gouache type, sometimes airbrush.
~hunter: little green face = kewl ;)
http://www.infinitejackass.com/rubygen/self portriat oct20.jpg
October 20th, 2002, 06:00 PM
Hey all, swamped by work, "Spirited Away" and the Austin Aids Walk, so here are Friday's (which came in late), yesterday's and today's spods in a handy triple party pack. If anyone noticed, for the past 2 week I haven't shaved so each day's spod has shown hair growth until this Friday, when I shaved it all down to a van dyke. So there you have it.
Oblio - really really cool take, and well shaded with such lively lines.
Keyth - a 2 minute drunken speed-spod is still a spod.
Blackhawk - great! Have the cg painting helped you when you approached this canvas? I'm curious. I haven't done any traditional painting in years.
hed|lamb - I guess I just have to repeat myself everytime you post - I love your work.
Hunter - thanks for giving this self-portrait forum a look. It's great to have you here, your work is stunning and inspirational.
Daarken - this one is very slick, it's well lit and volumetric and feels solid. I like to previous one as well, showing a hand or two is difficult and to your credit you pulled it off.
Miasmak - wow. Great color use and a unique approach. It's cool the way in which we all have recognizable styles.
Mindcandyman - I've only been doing the portraits for nearly 3 weeks now, I guess. But I am an "artist" for the most part, and have been making computer games and whatnot for 10 years. I don't save scripts, but I'll try and save work shots in progress for you.
October 20th, 2002, 09:53 PM
Hey folks, didn't have much time today but I wanted to do a SP from my mirror, unfortunatly it's one of those 'maybe I'll finish it later' deals. Since I am back to work tomorrow, I'll probably just do quick goofy faces on me lunch break.
Wetterschneider: Thanks for the message -I never knew this site exisited! There are so many amazing artists here!
2 and 3 are my favorites.
October 21st, 2002, 12:01 AM
Hi everybody I will respond later...I am having a late night. I felt like experimenting tonight so I did. Here is the crazy result.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 40 creepy SP.jpg
October 21st, 2002, 01:41 AM
October 21st, 2002, 04:12 AM
you dont know me
October 21st, 2002, 05:22 AM
@daarken - this one is so sedate, are you ok?
@hunter - mommy stare! see that's what happens if you don't brush your teeth ;) I agree with ruby the little green face is a cool touch.
@hed - intense presence I can feel the eyes looking at me even though I can't see them
@blackhawk - wow acrilics, admiration, I prefer your colour choice in this one to the digital ones, it's way more vibrant. The transition from light to dark on the forehead is a bit wierd
@keyth - blurry, the world is spinning
@coriat - have you considered that maybe you are an asian fisherman... but seriously ... I find it very difficult to work with black ink only, even if it is digital, you are not doing too badly. Maybe you want to check out the nuggets of wisdom in the schoolyard thread. edit - sorry coriat, I just saw your posts in the schoolyard thread :)
@oblio - very interesting, one way of get your brain not to interfere with what you see. Great linework.
@rubygenesis you look like you have a headache there, I love the wet blurryness that the alchohol gives it also intesifies the blue. The eyes and bridge of nose have a lot of expression in this one.
@wetterschneider - available in blue, vangogh and brick. You are versatile. The style you painted the mouth in the second one is not consistent with the rest of the image.
@mindcandyman - woohoo this one is fantastic!
@keyth - ouch, darker tonal range and limited palette in this one, combined with the more, shall we say, careful brushstrokes set the mood perfectly.
@daarken - aah, you are ok! thats better more like the daarken I don't know. Very expressive yet well controlled.
October 21st, 2002, 07:03 AM
What should have been a quick 10 minute sketch turned into an hour long struggle. I don't know what happened, but this was one was a fight for me, and now I think I feel what Android is looking for in his portraits. This one became personal for me. It was the oddest experience I've had while doing a self-portrait, hard for me to explain it.
Coriat - LOL, thanks. You may be frustrating yourself because of the rendering. Try a different technique to approach the self-portrait. Give it a colored background and pop out highlights after you do the linework. Toss it up a bit. I find when I hit a wall that I'll start to experiment and it breaks me right through.
Oblio & Keyth - I'm seeing red X's guys :(
Ruby - Awesome SP. I just looked over your website, extremely impressive work in there. Your nude studies were my favorite.
Wetter - There you are :) Second SP is my favorite of yours, bar none. I love the dimple strokes, sweet, sweet work. As for the acrylic, yeah, the computer helped me in terms of how I approach the canvas, but I want to start doing more traditional and expand on it. I'm going to be picking up painting lessons with an illustrator in my family. He's been doing watercolors and oils for 60 years, extremely good artist. I'm giddy with excitement when I think about learning a bit of his knowledge.
Hunter - More awesome work. I like how you rendered the face so well and left the rest to the wayside. Really focuses your attention.
MindCandy - Your improving man, your definitely starting to pick up your pace. Eyes could use a little more definition, but overall, nice value study.
Daarken - Badass. The angled strokes on the right side just pop this one full of energy. Awesome work.
Mia - Thanks. Yeah, the transition was weird, but the fact that I made it even more apparent in photoshop doesn't help either. :D It's not as noticable on the canvas. Either way, it was a learning experience for me, it didn't turn out great, but it didn't turn out horrible, beyond horrible either, and that's all I ask for :)
Have a great Monday everyone.
October 21st, 2002, 07:58 AM
thanks guys for all your comments, I couldn't do any pics this weekend I was away from the computer.
blackhawk- thanks its not cause I want to get bored. I think It's cause of my back when it starts hurting it drives me crazy and I just want to stop. I think I need a new chair, but I don't have the $. I had more fun on this one still got to improve more before I get the look I want. Nice piece to what is it done in photoshop or painter.
daarken- man thats great I really like that one. I like whats going on like on the right side of the face. very cool
mines painter, just tried doing the steps in androids step by step pic. I didn't get close to what he did but I feel better about this one than my others. Usally when I say that though people usally find more wrong with it, then they like the ones I hate, kinda weird.
October 21st, 2002, 09:03 AM
Haven't found the time yet to do today's sp. However, before doing so, I want to give my usual comments. It is always overwhelming when getting here on Mondays - so many portraits, so much good work!
@Blackhawk - 18/10: very nice, I like the distribution of shadow and light on this one. 19/10 both pieces are nice. Glad you had a productive day.
21/10 neck looks a bit too short, otherwise nice as always
@Madman - 18/10: those vain lines do look cool, however, I saw them as reflections of lightning bolts...
21/10 wonderful warm colors, even the blue background come out like this.
@MindCandyMan - 18/10: you've got my comment already on this one. Glad I could help.
21/10 good idea to try a different medium. Keep going, your improvement is very steady.
@daarken - :D how old I am... big secret... :D no, not really. Actually I'm 36. Most people say that I look a lot younger (like end of twenty). When I had finished that portrait from January 2001 I showed it around with the words: "Now I know what I'll be looking like at the end of fourty..." ;)
19/10 cool those webs between your fingers! Greetings from Lovecraft, eh?
20/10 like the brush strokes on your skin!
21/10 the variety of your styles is amazing
@keyth - another nightmare... OMG! ;) That mask piece is great!
19/10 never tried drawing when drunk... nice results... ;)
21/10 a two days' hangover??? Wow!
@hunter - nice painting. Somehow I keep counting the fingers, I don't know why, but it looks like six fingers...
21/10 what do you mean, not much time and finish it later? Wish I could draw like this!
@littlejohn - inspired by Oblio's six tone paintings?!?
@miasmak - your eyes seem to look into different directions. Nice tonal study! The intense look is something I can't avoid right now, being always so absorbed and concentrated while doing those drawings. I'm a great fan of mid tone papers but have not found the ultimate one yet.
@hunter - I have not read anything about a "mirror only" policy here - but I want to improve my life drawings, that's why I only use one. Anyway, I'm a great fan of those portraits which show "more" and come from the dark side of imagination. Thus, I like yours, too!
@hed|lamb - if you wanted to make the impression of drawing with blood you've succeeded.
@Oblio - looks weird!
@rubygenesis - eye area is great, mouth area looks too old (considering the earlier postings)
@wetterschneider - all three are very nice, especially the first and the van gogh one are great. Your beard looks good - keep it!
October 21st, 2002, 09:37 AM
Self Portrait from the weekend.
I had to go away for the weekend...my wife, graciously, offerred to drive on the way up so I could draw in the car. This was my self portrait done in the car looking at that flip down mirror thing on the visor. I didn't get to finish shading it cause we arrived at our destination. It's hard to draw over a bump road...sheesh
I will respond later to everyone sorry...I am at work so I don't want my boss to get mad.
October 21st, 2002, 09:44 AM
since alot of people are doing the spotlight thing here's one too. a value study again using 6 values
I tried to concentrate on the lighting and not the detail.
October 21st, 2002, 10:27 AM
Just a quick one today (15-20 min), ballpen and white color pencil on colored scratchbook paper.
October 21st, 2002, 11:34 AM
bad weekend... prismacolor marker/color pencil
October 21st, 2002, 12:27 PM
first painted thing in ages
sorry for the size
October 21st, 2002, 02:50 PM
I have to respond later 'cause I'm at work as well -great job everyone!
October 21st, 2002, 10:30 PM
my first gouache painting. i know there are some wonky things about it, but there's no undo button! the next one'll be better.
October 22nd, 2002, 12:33 AM
October 22nd, 2002, 01:08 AM
mia: haha, its funny that if i dont do something dark people think there is something wrong. thanks for caring though!
blackhawk: thanks! i think this is a strong piece from you. im glad you are looking past just the exterior and starting to explore what is inside. good job.
madman: heh, thanks. i actually didnt have those in there at first, but i added them in because i thought it needed a little something. be sure to really pay attention to what your nostrils look like. how do they curl around and attach to your filtrum? as well as what the wing of your nose looks like.
jester: thank you for all the nice comments! i didnt intend to make the webbing so apparent, but i guess it kind of goes with the painting.
cotron: very cool feeling. sorry you had such a bad weekend. the good thing about those bad weekends is you usually produce good work.
mr. t : i really like your very soft and sublte style. that is a wonderful eye. very nice sp.
hunter: haha, good expression. nice handling of the stretch and squeeze of your face.
littlejohn: gouache? what would ever possess you to use gouache?! haha. i just personally hate it...probably because im not good at it. i think you did a very good job.
i may get behind in my sp's for the next few weeks...i have so much school work its insane. i am already a week behind in my illustration 1 class. oh well, here we go.
October 22nd, 2002, 01:34 AM
brought my lava lamp to the office today
October 22nd, 2002, 02:20 AM
~miasmak: you are good,kewl dramatic lighting
~hunter: hehe awesome
~jester: try to follow the form while shading for a more rounded finish.
~Blackhawk: thanks :) looking good, keep'em coming.
15min Letraset markers Cool greys 2,4,5,6,and 7.
October 22nd, 2002, 06:03 AM
Color Pencil on colored Canson paper.
@miasmak - the lights below your lips looked like rabbits' teeth on first sight... :) apart from that, nice one.
@cotron - I like the way you mixed the reds and greens into your skin color.
@Mr.T. - whoa. Red eyes are cool!
@hunter - :D
@littlejohn - yep, great disadvantage of traditional media. However, they feel much more natural to me to handle.
@nova - another female artist?! I like the red one better.
@daarken - yeah, homework can be a burden. Don't tell me you did this with a mirror ;) Left shoulder looks strange.
@rubygenesis - thanks for the tip. Tried to keep it in mind for today's. There's something that worries me with your lower lip. And perhaps you should have tried to blend the shadows on your cheeks. Still, nice one.
October 22nd, 2002, 06:04 AM
:cool:@Painter7 users - check out these free fineart brushes :cool:
fine art 2.0 (http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze235xx/fa2.zip)
@jester, I like the blue paper, the eyes seem a bit close together and the cross hatching maybe a bit harsh.
@cotron, you should have more bad weekends if it makes you draw this well. Cool hand. the colour pencil make sit luminous.
@mr.T, cool format, very smooth almost photographic.
@hunter, very realistic, dig the pink, your eyes taking some strain there ...
@littlejohn, its got that wet paint gonna run anyminute fell to it. admiration, I cannot live without Ctrl-z
@nova, pleased to meet you, good another girl
@daarken good luck with the school work, don't let us tempt you
@nova, curious, did you do this one all in oranges or did you put the lava lamp layer over it?
@rubygenesis, meditative, I think I prefer the blue mood one, this one seems a bit pale in comparison.
October 22nd, 2002, 06:24 AM
we cross posted -
nibble, nibble, what's up doc? - yeah those highlights are a bit harsh, I was using a square chalk in Painter and resisting the temptation to make the brush size smaller. your latest image is an improvment on the previous one imo, maybe you had more time, good to see a different angle as well.
October 22nd, 2002, 07:15 AM
Hey everyone. I wanted to mess around and have a little fun with this one. I grabbed my hockey helmet and stuffed my lower-lip with cotton. Then I did this portrait. No, I don't have a black-eye either, it's all just added on. Took me about an hour and a half. Tried a different painting method this time. Came out decent enough. I just wish I could have spent more time on it but I'm heading to bed. Night everyone, I'll comment tomorrow.
October 22nd, 2002, 10:21 AM
don't beat me. here's yesterdays. i was unwrapping UV's all day...literally. been a little swamped lately...i'll be back up in a bit with comments and stuff. just lots to be done today. hopefully i can whip together something better. keep it up folks. i'll be back later tonight taking a break from 3D and drawing to drop some notes. back to work!!!!!
October 22nd, 2002, 11:40 AM
This is my newest (self) portrait. Last night I had a rough night (drawing) so when I couldn't get this portrait to look like me I just let my brain guide the rest of the way. I know this looks nothing like me but it was an interesting experiment. Maybe this is a latent part of me that the left side of my brain needed to get out? Not sure. Maybe this is me at 40? Not sure...Anyways here it is:
Keyth - I really like this last one...I know you did it quickly but I think it's cool.
Blackhawk - HAHAHAH I love that one. That is hilarious. And you stuffed your mouth with cotton balls hahahah. Great job though seriously...it was really good.
miasmak - You are getting better and better keep it up. I see constant improvement.
jester - I really like the last one. I also like how you change mediums so often. That's really good. The nose looks a little weird on this one but great job.
rubygenesis - I love your stuff...it's fresh and different. Keep it up you are improving dramatically.
nova - wow great paintings. I really like them. Especially the "greyscale" one. Great job...do more! The eyes are a little off kilter on the orange one.
littlejohn - I have heard that gouache is a really hard medium to work with. Great job...especially for your first attempt!
daarken - like all your stuff...I like this one. Do your homework man hehehe...
hunter - I don't know what to say...you just popped on the scene all the sudden dropping these awesome self portraits. That balrog type one was really really awesome. I loved it. And your others are so realistic...can you post a step by step of how you do yours?
Mr. T. - I love the smooth look of that self portrait and the eye is awesome. I don't mind it being long I think it adds to the image...cool stuff. There is a grey smudge from the blur effect in the top left by your hair line that looks kind of weird and doesn't fit with the rest of the image.
cotron - wow that is a very evocative self portrait. I just constantly think of pain when I look at it. Wow.
Madman - Hey great job on the portrait. I like the colors you use. Try this on your next one...look very specifically at the notrils on your face and draw that shape exactly. They aren't circles really unless you are looking straight up someone's nose. Hopefully that will help some.
October 22nd, 2002, 02:28 PM
Blakhawk: Awesome!! Nice work!
MindCandyMan: Thanks so much for the kind words! I'd consider a how-to, I'm not really sure that it would be of any use. Maybe this weekend -do sumptin' funky.
nova: love the orange.
littlejohn: The gouache SP is excellent! I worked with gouache for awile -what a pain in the arse. Great Job.
October 22nd, 2002, 03:03 PM
not as cheery as before
hunter: that sp is ridiculous! pretty awesome man, you have a good eye for portraiture
mindcandyman:your stuff is progressing...keep it up. maybe if you thought of your face as blocks of color and planes, it would help you out. i know trying stuff that way helped me.
blackhawk:cool concept for a sp
October 22nd, 2002, 05:25 PM
really quick value study
really messy longer one, I should have stopped saves ago, but I had to continue the mud wrestling. Maybe I should wash those sticky pixels of my brush now and then, apart from the mouth being skew because I wanted to do a faint smile but wasn't in the mood to keep it up.
thanks for the feedback everybody, I'll do mine in the morning, goodnight everybody.
October 22nd, 2002, 05:57 PM
after burning my comp i've burned my father's - bad oblio. also the parrot died today.. are my mid 20's so dark that i spread death around? :)
Anyway.. not too happy right?
Lots of mistakes - made with a sort of marker so... no erase/undo. Also.. guess who was pissed off...
BOYS _ COME ON - we are surounded by girls - this is good right? But let's fire back with some Sp's ;)
I love to see more faces around.
@keyth - :bash: - look - so many nice people and you.. what is that? :D (take care my friend.. don;t work too hard now.. it will shorten your life ;D
@cotron - i know you know - but those lines would look better going around your face ;) That rpismacolor/markers - is dope!
@hunter - KICK ASS! :chug: KICK ASS! - great one! i LOVE IT!
(how is your face? Hurts? ) :D
@mindcandy - loose those lines m8. bad brush you use. get bigger and without "lines" in it - start with a realy big brush - put the big splashes and then go to smal and smaller.
@blackhawk - :bash: can you feel something in there? :p
@mia - thx. 4 brushes - i'll give them a try (just fixed my comp now) Love that last one - (mind the symetry)
@daarken - try to keep up friend - a quick one will take you 10 min- don't take the pause - i regret i took it then! I'll be back online with daylies on 1 Nov. It's a promise to myself! (is harder to get back then to quit)
@jester - 21.10 - lovely - eyes too close though - mind those proportions - i think this is your major drawback - you don;t pay enough attention. That hatch reminds me of retro - must be a german thing ;) Try more like that!
@mr. T - :bow: (dont be a stranger. try one like that/day :p)
@ruby - ruby.. you're groovie :D (love the last one - yet.. how did you see with your eyes closed? ;p) No realy i love it!
@nova - isn;t this a delicate aparence? I like more the first one. The orange seems flooded.
Take care and keep it up!
October 22nd, 2002, 07:11 PM
very sleepy... pulled 25 minutes on reserve
oblio, i like your last portrait, the improvement is significant
hunter, great work!
i might drop in again soon :)
October 22nd, 2002, 11:12 PM
everyone rules! much improvement out there, great job everyone. quickie tonight...dry ink again. hey littlejohn, wanna do my gouache hw? heh.
October 22nd, 2002, 11:31 PM
i am still alive, in a manner of speaking.
art school is kicking my ass.
great job everyone.
October 22nd, 2002, 11:43 PM
October 23rd, 2002, 01:46 AM
done real quick with only the light of the monitor, tryin not to wake my girlfriend....tryin to keep up with my daily regiment, even though this one looks like ass and a half
shaggy:those letters is straight ill! stay away from graffiti, it's nothing but trouble! fo sheezy mah neezy :evilbat:
October 23rd, 2002, 01:50 AM
what's up everybody? :chug: :chug: :chug:
daarken: all of your spods are truly awesome. you are definitely on my all time favorite list. excellent!!!!!
blackhawk: jesus man!! take care of those wounds. ouch:D
madman: nice job. looks manga-esque. keep em com'n.
mindcandy: it's good to hear the drive to draw keeps you doing it even on vacation. keep it up. don't stop!! (did you catch the pun...."drive".). thanks for the comment. i've been laying out uv's a lot(3d stuff). but they are a bunch of white lines on a black background. funny how my spod turned out the same way.....that means i should stop looking at uv's.
mia: great work. just keep punching out. you'll get better and better. you already have a distinct style going.:chug:
jester: i think those tonal paper studies are excellent for you. that grey one on the 21st is looking sharp!
keyth: what's wrong with you dude? get it together:p .
hunter: you are a nut and i love it. that mouth on today's is awesome!!!!
cotron: nice variance in styles and moods. keep'em com'n.
mr t: what can i say? nice as always.
littlejohn: analog?!! what are you thinking?...it looks really nice!:chug:
nova: welcome. very nice. more, more, more:p
ruby: i really like this one a lot. i mean i REALLY like it. calm and soothing. great use of markers. just an all out great job. it may just be me but a push in the contrast would really make this one sing. nice job.
OB: very funny brother:p . i have been swamped lately. trying to really get my sh#t together to get a good job. working very, VERY hard. this may very well be the best drawing i have seen from you. AWESOME!!!
Killing: i don't know what to say about this one! it's fu#$ing weird, realistic but...not realistic....weird colors. i absolutely love it!!!!
shaggy: welcome. we can't see your face.:p . keeep'em com'n.
i have been going through a massive onslaught of getting lots of things together for future employment. if i miss some people or a post it is because i am picking the peices of my brain off the floor and looking for my eyeballs.
awesome work everyone. it's bedtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2002, 02:06 AM
I'm all over the place....I really like these letraset markers tho.
~daarken: nice one, i like it.
~killing: so pretty in pink :D
~Oblio: ah yes, there is no 'undo' in traditional mediums. :)
i like it that way, commit to your lines do not be afraid!
~keyth: thanks! yes contrast what a wonderful thing, i'll keep that in mind for the next.
another quickie, 10min markers
October 23rd, 2002, 02:30 AM
thanx for the feedback
u guys have very impressive work
thats my first attemped at that kinda cartooning and i do plan on making alot of changes
and i really dont see that as graffti its more of a logo now
here is a better look at the logo
it says Atwellart(i swear) but no one can see it, but i like it
October 23rd, 2002, 02:42 AM
hey everyone, im back from my long weekend. sorry but i won't be able to post my sp's from the weekend, i had to give my girlfriend her camera :p but trust me they're all done.
daarken-nice variety lately, the ink ones great, and i also like the really dark b&w one on this page.
blachhawk-cool idea for the hockey player sp, made me laugh :p
mindcandyman-i can see you're learning quickly, keep it up! and ive never done an sp in the car, but in general ive had some bad experiences with car drawing, get about half an hour into something and you hit a huge bump and all of a sudden youve given yourself the gout. :p
miasmak-nice job on the value study, and its good to see some female faces around here finally, i was getting questioned about it alot when i showed this page to people.
jester-the pen and colored pencil on blue paper works great, you should use it some more
mr.t-very accurate and clean as usual (p44) and the robot one on 45 is a cool concept.
littlejohn-your colors are great; nice job on the guache too, havent tried that yet (a bit too much $$ for me at the moment :P )
hunter-hey nice to meet you. nice sps on p44 and 45 the expressions are great. doing 2 dozen plain faces gets old eh :p which reminds me of something...
how many do you all have? with tonights, im at 46 (almost the big 5-0! went much faster than i expected)
killing.people-love that last one, looks watercolor-ish (im pretty sure thats not a word :p ) but yea its awesome. and i hear ya about art school kicking your ass, im gettin about 3 hrs of sleep a night, im dead broke, and ive got assignments seemingly nonstop. if i ever get a break, it usually means ive forgotten something :rolleyes:
oblio-that last one is very good, is that black ink?
keyth-awesome stuff as always, the blue-violet one on p.44 is great, i love the ones where you only show the lighted part of your face. one above me is also great for a quicky.
rubygenesis-nice to see some traditional portraits, i think i might start switching back and forth a bit more... you make me want to go buy markers though. anyone know of a good marker rendering tutorial? or do you just kinda 'go'?
heres mine for tonight, a quicky im afraid, i need some sleep. my mom never likes my sp's unless im smiling, like its a school photo or something, pretty ridiculous i know. but yea thats my 'inspiration' for some of my recent odd expressions :evilbat:
October 23rd, 2002, 03:16 AM
inbetween making breakfast for the family
ping there goes the microwave
October 23rd, 2002, 07:10 AM
This is seriously, beyond any doubt, the most wretched piece of crap self-portrait I've done... period. This one was so frustrating for me that I was contemplating quitting the SP a day. It's getting harder and harder for me and I don't understand it. It's like my brain can't figure it out anymore. All of my proportions are off, my facial feature alignment is off, my shading is hideous. UGH!! I don't know what to do. I don't know, I'm just severly pissed that I spent 2 hours this evening on this. 2 hours! I think I redrew the head 10 times, not once did it come out right. I'm frustrated, hopefully I can pull of something better tomorrow night. I'll comment later everyone, my head is swimming from the frustration I've had all night.
What I will say now is everyone is posting incredible work. Hopefully I can pull my head out of my ass and figure out what the hell is going on with my facial anatomy. Night everyone.
October 23rd, 2002, 07:41 AM
Color Pencil on colored Canson paper, again. About 40 minutes.
It's a very dark and depressing autumn day today. I just finished watching (and drawing) this Zefirelli Romeo and Juliet film and felt a bit sad - that's why I chose this pose. This one is very close in resemblance (as far as I see myself) but I see that my brain and hand tried to re-adjust the angled view. Any other comments?
@keyth - I like that made-up beaten hockey portrait you did. I hope that when I get better I can try experiments like this, too. The second one is very dark (at least on my monitor) but well executed - as usual (almost ;) )
Thanks to your and jhibbs' encouragement I did another one with tonal paper. It's fun!
@MindCandyMan - uhah, I know that feeling (this must be what I'll look in 10, 20 years ahead). Try to get away what that scribbly look. I change my mediums (not quite so often as it seems, it's mainly either pencil, colored pencil on colored paper or markers) because of all the inspiration I get here. Since I still cannot join the others with funny or weird faces I try to make my portraits interesting that way.
@hunter - don't tell me you did this in front of a mirror! ;) Grandma used to say that my face would stay like this when I did faces... :D Very good job. Only thing I miss is a spot of light in your right eye.
@cotron - light source(s) (?) don't seem consistently in 22nd spod, better in 23rd spod
@Oblio - I'm glad that the mid-twenties are over, my partner and me felt like that then, too. Though you spotted lots of mistakes in yours - the improvement is clearly visible! Yep, proportions... GRRRRR any tip on how to practise them (except from taking more time, looking closer and taking measures)?
@Mr T.- robots rock - so does your portrait!
@daarken - impressive lights!
@killing.people - daring color choice, you look dead tired on that one. I feel that people around here don't get enough sleep.
@shaggy - hmm, show us more of your face! :D
@rubygenesis - eyes look a bit too dark in this very light portrait.
@jhibbs - thanks, keyth seems to be of the same opinion, that's why I did another one in this style. Yours is cool, only "mistake" I can spot is that in the left half your gums seem to grow over your teeth instead of your teeth extruding from your guns (errr, do I make myself clear???).
@miasmak - ping, I know how annyoing this can be, no to have enough time to finish your work and always being in a hurry. I like the way you are experimenting with colors.
@Blackhawk - well, it isn't one of your best, but it's not that bad either. Perhaps you just need a short break? Take a week off and come back fresh with new ideas. I consider this, too, since there are other projects suffering from this spod thing.
Okay, hungry, very hungry... going to lunch now. :eat:
October 23rd, 2002, 08:45 AM
@jester, I like the different head pose.
@blackhawk, you can't be brilliant all the time. The shading is just a bit flat, and the head a bit small. if I didn't know what you think you look like, I wouldn't have noticed the different proportions. The fact that you can see what is wrong is a step forward.
@jhibbs, thats not a smile, you are checking your teeth for spinach in the mirror, I like the electric blue outline
@shaggy, pleased to meet you, yeah a bit more face would be interesting
@ruby, your marker work is so cool, this one the proportions aren't the same as some of the previous ones. Your avatar pic looks cool too, better than than the big one, imo
@cotron, like the loose line work
@killing, wonderful saturated party colours
@daarken, so you aren't doing your homework yet are you, hhuh nice inkwork
@mrT, batteries charged up again, cool pic.
@cotron this one has a strong 3D feel to it
@hunter, what can I say, very careful illustration of a completely batty character.
October 23rd, 2002, 09:07 AM
blackhawk: stay motivated, stay positive my friend. dont fool yourself in believing the better you are .. the easier the journey will become. the more advanced you become, the more difficult and taxing your growth will be.
shaggy: not a very traditional self portrait.
October 23rd, 2002, 09:21 AM
Last night my portrait started off normal but I was still angry from how crappy my boss treated me at work yesterday. She is one of the rudest and patronizing people I have ever met I think. I promise...tonight I will get back to the basics.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 42 angry fire Self Portrait.jpg
October 23rd, 2002, 05:49 PM
wow mindcandyman, what an explosive pic. Now I have to post my overworked one after yours. This is my all time favourite of yours.
@keyth & @oblio sorry bout not saying anything about your pics, I sometimes forget to do the IE thing and then I miss a comment.
I really liked your marker one Oblio, looks like the break did the creative juices some good.
keyth, yours was sedate and unattached. must be cause you just got your eyeballs in place.
well then, here's another done with the fineart brushes ver2.0
inspired by killing.people's colours and daarken's composition.
October 24th, 2002, 12:54 AM
miasmak: thanks for the link to the brushes. i used them on this portrait:
daarken: since you're using gouache: can/does one reuse dry gouache like you do with watercolors? it seems so wasteful to toss all that paint.
October 24th, 2002, 12:57 AM
killing: wow, you are improving a lot! i really like how even though you used so many colors and little strokes you still managed to pull off the form and it all holds together.
cotron: good lighting, but watch out for your nose. it looks like it is pushed over too far.
keyth: naahhhhh! you are just trying to make me feel good! hehe. but thank you very much! heh, you look really young in this one!
ruby: ahhh, nice marker goodness. you should do your next in watercolors...and on a horse! heh.
blackhawk: i applaud you on your perseverance on your last sp. i think you still pulled off a good sp, and you are being too hard on yourself. maybe just take a few days off of drawing, there are always the bad days. dont let one bad day cause you to quit all together.
mia: haha, nope, no hw. again i put it off today...i am bad.
mind: ahhh!! you have the red firey laser eyes! one of my favs of yours, very nice!
October 24th, 2002, 01:41 AM
October 24th, 2002, 03:22 AM
October 24th, 2002, 05:27 AM
Hello am still alive and still moving into my new house :). I will not have an internat connection for a while so this one comes via the modern wonder of technology that is a floppy disk :). It may be a while till I can start posting regually again but here is a quicky I did while moving in and trying to avoid building shelves etc.
Would just like to say Hi to Hunter glad you found this thread I loved you stuff on shijn and greetings to all the regulars. I still check this page everyday and recently you all seem to have racked the standard up a notch :). I feel a bit left behind. Oh and Blackhawk Don't be so f*$&%(ing hard on yourself that was a good SP and your anatomy ios starting to come together as you get better your standards are rasing but you need to havce patence. daarken, littlejohn thouse last two rock my world. Anyway got to run sorry for not greets to everyone but have to do some work :/
October 24th, 2002, 05:46 AM
Hey everyone. Sorry about the post I had last night. I had all this anger built up and I vented, I know you all probably don't like reading that sort of stuff, I know I can find it annoying myself sometimes. Either way, a lot of the feedback you guys and gals provided really helped me understand it better, and I thank you. Especially Killing, I realize that now. As soon as I read your post, immediately the addage popped into my head, "The more you know, the less you know." It's probably not exact, but the meaning is still there. Thanks Killing.
Anyways, onto my SP. 5 minutes tonight. I was inspired by one of Daarken's SP's from acouple days ago. It was fun, a quickie, and I gained a little confidence after this one, so all-in-all it wasn't bad :) Enjoy everyone.
Sorry if I'm going to miss a few people here, I haven't commented in 3 days and it'll be impossible to go back through all the works. That being said, welcome to all the new faces, it's always great to see someone new share their face with us. Anyone else sitting on the sidelines, please join us :D
Daarken - Incredible works. Your last one is brilliant. The hand is absolutely phenomenal. Thanks for your words, but I don't think I'd ever be able to take a break from drawing now :D One thing I've always been told is to sketch and draw, even when you don't feel like doing it, it helps break that funk quicker.
Killing - Thanks for the comment. Your last SP is beautiful man. Usually when someone does a million colors, a portrait can get chaotic, but you pulled the values through nicely. This is my favorite of yours by far.
Jhibbs - Great last SP. A lot of improvement over your others. Keep it up. My mother is the exact same way with my SP's. When she saw my SP's, she just sat there for half of them going, "Oh, I don't like that one at all" "Not that one" "You look so ugly in that one :D". She eventually found acouple she liked though.
Mia - Thanks for the comment. This SP is an improvement, your facial features are definitely coming together now. Lips look a bit too straight to me though on the last one, they should have a slight curvature, almost like they were wrapped around a can, which is the easiest way to think about it. Good work.
MindCandy - Wow. You put a lot of zing into this one. Very nice. My favorite of yours.
Jester - Thanks for the comment. Your SP looks good, nose looks deformed on it though. I like the effort your putting into experimentation. Keep at it bud.
Hunter - Your last one had me cracking up. With my speed, my face would explode having to hold a pose like that. Excellent work, your stuff is great.
Littlejohn - Great job with the colors on this one. Your last two have been extremely impressive. I'd like to try gauche, but I don't know where to begin with it. You have any advice on what brushes, papers, and colors to buy. I'm extremely interested in experimenting with new stuff.
StephenC - Welcome and nice SP. What media did you use on this?
TheNetbox - Hey, it's starting to come together. Those facial features are beginning to line up, very nicely done. Your improving :)
Lionel - LOL, thanks. Yeah, it's a personality flaw I need to quelch a bit, Whenever I feel out of control, like I did on that last SP, I really begin to get hard on myself. A lot of it probably has to do with immaturity :D Great SP btw, great to see you back. Hopefully everything gets in order soon so your on here regularly again.
Again, I know I missed quite a few of you, but it's getting late and I need to head to bed. Thanks everyone for sharing your work, and keep on posting, this thread is almost to 1000 :) Night everyone, have a great Thursday.
October 24th, 2002, 08:24 AM
I had a hard time last night. It was difficult to look myself stright in the eyes.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 43 sadness SP.jpg
October 24th, 2002, 08:43 AM
Long time no spod. Bit skewy and the scan's a little messed, but enjoy anywho.
October 24th, 2002, 10:36 AM
hey everyone, sorryabout the no-post last night. i had it finished, but liquid2k was being a huge pain in the ass as usual, and i was too tired to put up with it.
blackhawk-awesome sp, which brushes did you use? im still new to painter and havent really started to experiment with them yet.
daarken-the colors in the hand are excellent, these seem to be coming more naturally to you :p and the skin being pinched and pulled is convioncing. i havent really let myself experiment too much lately, as i feel i need a better handle on color first.
which brings me to: Oct. 23, still cant quite tell if i like it or not.
October 24th, 2002, 12:12 PM
Sanguine on colored Canson Mi-Teintes paper. If you think that my index finger is in a painful position you are right. I chose this pose because it's quite typical for me - however I never before held it for 40 minutes...
So many amazing spods again!
@MindCandyMan - I like the exploding eyes and can still recognize you. I know a boss like that, had a similar on at my first job, she was American and her name was Kathy - horrible woman! The blue one (the best yet!) shows that it's not over yet, right?
@miasmak - nice autumnal color scheme.
@littlejohn - very nice. I especially like the reflection zone around your left eye.
@daarken - ouch! :D
@thenetbox - very sad expression
@StephenC - a new greeny ;)
@Lionel - wow, impressive.
@Blackhawk - cool, I have to try this woodcut look soon! I saw the deformed nose, too, but only when scanning. I think my hand tried to correct the weird perspective angle and my brain was too occupied to stop her ;)
@Brain - nice to see you
@jhibbs - red noses come into fashion again? ;)
October 24th, 2002, 03:40 PM
ha ha. this is probably the lamest excuse for a spod this side of the Pecos. drunk, tired....just plain stupid. but hey, this is how i felt at the end of the day just before bed...VERY empty. please forgive the late post.
October 24th, 2002, 03:44 PM
there...that's better. ya know, one thing i really like to do is work my a$$ of for days and days in a row. then right before i go totally insane, i go out with some friends and have some beers. hope this makes up for yesterdays. now it's back to work.
October 24th, 2002, 04:05 PM
keyth - stop getting drunk!
Jester - I really like this last one...it's really good. I think it's one of your best ones...in my opinion. A couple things for help. I think the nostril "holes" are a little too high up or large or something. Also the eye on the right side of the picture is skewed up a little bit and it is throwing off the face a bit. I think the fingers are a little too rounded as well. I really really like this one though. Great job. I see your improvement...it's great!
jhibbs - I think your color work is really good. I really like the skin tones and subtlety you have achieved. I would work more on your proportions (I know I know...my proportions are awful...hehe). Something about the face looks weird...I think its the size of all the parts. The eyes might be a little too large or something. Hard to tell. Good job though.
Brain - I can see constant improvement. I went to your website...that video of you punching that guy is hilarious. Keep working on your proportions. Be meticulous measure them out with a ruler...that is helping me learn.
Mindcandyman - you are awful. Your proportions are way way off. The jaw line is awful. Stupid cry baby.
Blackhawk - I really like this one. I know it was a quickie but I think it has a lot of character.
Lionel - I like that one. The eye on the right is a little weird...but this is a good one. You got a lot of the details right...good job. That headset would be hard for me I think.
Stephen C - Good job. Simple colors but very effective. I look forward to seeing more. Welcome!
thenetbox - I really like this one. Oblio doesn't like shading with lines (love you Oblio hehe)...but I do. I think it looks cool sometimes. Good job.
daarken - Wow...sheesh...talk about a difficult pose. Really good job man. I love it ...like all your stuff. Couple things...the top of the ear on the left is red...is that on purpose? The skin tone difference between the hand and the face is significantly different...is this for effect? Great job as usual.
littlejohn - I like your stuff. Your use of gouache on the last one was really good. This is a step up from that. Great job.
miasmak - I really like this last one you did. I like the pose of you looking up and I like your head being tilted in a different direction. One thing I have noticed about yours though is that they have a flat nature to them. Try to use the shading to add a little more depth...especially around the eyes and around the nose. Great job.
October 24th, 2002, 06:20 PM
This one is quite old, done with oils again
Daarken, Littlejohn, Keyth, Hedlamb, Hunter, Retro002 you guys kick ass !!
October 24th, 2002, 06:28 PM
Kaini - jeez! That's pretty awesome. You're making me think I need to not stop so soon and move to a smaller brush size when painting.
Keyth - solid as usual. How many are you up to? Have you compiled a master thumbnail image yet?
Jester - amazing quality. Each sp or yours is shows improvement over the last. I love to see hands included in the image.
Jhibbs - this sp has come together, the hair looks great, the ear looks good, although it looks like someone smacked you on it, ouch.
MindCandyMan - sorry things aren't going well. I do think this sp is your best ever, though.
Blackhawk - that's a strong sp. Anatomy is one, and it's graphically interesting.
Lionel - good to see you again.
Daarken - this one is so good, I can't get over it. It's fleshy and well composed and the hand is perfectly executed.
Littlejohn - this one is neat, I like solid blocked color.
I like number 4 the best.
October 24th, 2002, 09:07 PM
you can't imagine what i've been trough... i've said few words in the old "stratch" post in sketches. Anyway.. thx. for input!
Here comes the next one (traditional again since my comp was down - yes, mine, again)
A bit messy - but it was done while installing windows and stuff.. you can't get clean out of such operation :)
Now.. the feedback time:
HEY - KILLINGIS BACK! (i've been missing you - btw - great dream/stream)
@mia - please.. put more work on them. I wanna smell the detail (freak :evilbat:)
@daarken - i've got a new wallpaper - thank you! (even that is hard to choose when so manny GREAT things pop up on this forum)
@kaini - you kick ass too m8
@keyth - are you looking for a barman job or what? You said you're busting you ass 4 your job and you come home drunk every night? What will your mother say? Do your roomates still open the door? :bash: :D
I love your sp's - those drunk ones are absolutely cute. Yet, now seriously, leave the drinks alone (do some... wild sex instead :D) - overhere, the casual artist is basically a notorious drunk - maybe i'm overreacting but.. hey.. if i were there.. you wouldn't behave like this - i guarantee :D
@jester - your index finger doesn't read too well :confused:
@wetter - love the 1st (since is hwere i strugle now - values), love the 2-nd for the colors and emotions (yet.. too much around the eyes) love the 3-rd for the hold breath expresion (i hope i read right - anyway. colors too saturated? no? good :D) and the 4-th cause it rocks :P
@jhibbs - love the hair - not the ear .. eyes .. strange (at least)
@Brian - more contrast. more attention to proportions and details. more work - don't be a stranger.
@lionel - be strong friend - the floppy just saved my ass those days - keep it close ;)
@ruby - your markers are cool - how about a different expresion? new hair look?
@blackhawck - great one (again)
@mindcandy - i see progress - yet you better work the basics more! (fuck that bitcha... (i hope she's not too old though) )
@netbox - that is the way. Now.. clear up a bit. Use only big brush and full opacity.
@littlejohn - verrrrrry nice (me likes)
To all the newcomers - WELCOME! MORE! :D
October 25th, 2002, 01:36 AM
oh come on. a couple of drunk portraits and the next thing ya know...people think i'm a drunk:p
thanks for the commments.:chug:
October 25th, 2002, 02:59 AM
I'd just like to say big thank you to Android and the people who post here, for providing the motivation for me to do this excersize.
October 25th, 2002, 04:13 AM
i upped the contrast and added the paint daubs filter, turned out kinda kewl no?
October 25th, 2002, 04:24 AM
i really like everybody's work here, its awesome.
today's self portrait,...critique this one please ...i'm unsatisfied with it, something's missing but i'm not sure what
once agian , everbody's work is is really awesome...
October 25th, 2002, 04:57 AM
I wanted to try one of those wild expressions, too :) - quite a challenge when feeling relaxed ;)
Ok, off for the weekend (as usual, spending quality time with my partner), have a nice weekend everybody and "see" you on Monday!
@keyth - used to work my a$$ off myself for 6 years in a row - beer can help to find the relaxation to find at least some sleep, used to do this myself... However, don't make a method of it. :chug:
@MindCandyMan - valuable hint on the fingers, I'll check that next time. In my point of view the last one wasn't as good as the one before (the blue angled one), so it's good to know someone liked this, too. It's funny, despite drawing a guideline for the eyes all the time I seem to get them out of line all the time.
@kaini - welcome (another German or just staying here?), nice portrait!
@Wetterschneider - thanks, I think I should do more spods with hands, practicing both weaknesses at the same time is very economical ;) All four of your portraits seem a bit rushed. I like the 1st one best.
@Oblio - not bad... but the line in the left half of your face troubles me, makes your cheek somehow disturbed. It's probably a shadow, don't know... --- My index finger was the one that hurt after I finished the portrait, it was a weird angle and not a good one for a portrait since, as you said, it doesn't read well. However, that WAS what it looked like but next time I'll choose a pose that's clearer.
@Mr. Brian - amazing, isn't it, what one can achieve with just a little practice ;) Your improvement clearly shows!
@rubygenesis - yep :)
@StephenC - no idea either, probably some lights in your eyes? brighter teeth?
October 25th, 2002, 05:28 AM
Hey everyone. I wanted to try a new medium, so I picked up some sanguine today. I did this one on 11 x 17 strathmore charcoal paper. Took me about 30 minutes, it was a fun exercise.
MindCandy - I know how you feel sometimes man. Good SP, looks like lightning bolts shooting out of his eyes though :D
Brain - Welcome. Only thing scewy are the lips, push them back a bit on the face and it should clear it right up. Might want bump up some of those values too as well, but great job, always nice to see a new face.
Jhibbs - Great colors on this one, very nice. If I can remember correctly, they were liquid ink coarse bristle and smooth bristle.
Jester - Thanks. Yeah, I think my brain subconciously does it sometimes as well, plus my eye isn't too trained yet, so it can still easily get funky on me when I'm placing things and trying to measure. I like the crazy expression piece.
Kaini - Good to see you around again. Your stuff is spectacular and was well worth the wait. Great job.
Wetter - Thanks. I agree with you, number 4 I like the best as well. Much more visually dramatic, and good colors. Good to see you around again, hopefully you can get back to this daily again.
Oblio - Thanks. The values are a bit messy, but it's an interesting piece, and your forms and placement are nailed. Great job. You've improved a lot.
Keyth - lol, I like the second one you did. The first one looks like something I'd be fully capable of doing :D
Mr. Brain - Welcome. I like #16 and #32 a lot. #16 has strong colors, and 32 has an interesting texture to it. Great job.
Ruby - Your having fun with those markers :) I like this one, the deeper contrast gave this one good depth.
Stephen - Maybe the nose is throwing it off for you. The nose and the right side of the mouth are the only things that look wrong to me in the picture. Good job though. Very crazy style you have going on there.
Have a great Friday everyone.
October 25th, 2002, 08:54 AM
I have been staying up really late all week and I had to go to bed early last night...so I couldn't spend a lot of time on this one. I am gonna draw a lot on friday and saturday. I liked the dry ink style that blackhawk and daarken did so I tried it. It's really cold in my house right now that's why I am wearing a sock hat lately hehe.
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/Painting 44 dry ink SP.jpg
October 25th, 2002, 01:01 PM
did this one this morning while downing a 5th of vodka:p
stephen C: not really too sure how to critique this one. i'm not sure what you are going for which...maybe something to think about. if you are trying to make it somewhat abstract/distorted, i would still render the features of your face with more depth. take a look at some of jon fosters work a few pages back, or go to the front page and check it out. i think studying some of his strokes, you push this type of style further. i would also keep the super dark and super white colors going but pick more interesting blues and reds.
just my two cents....we are all still learning.:chug:
thanks for the comments guys!!!!!
KEEP EM COM N!!!!!!!
October 25th, 2002, 04:16 PM
blackhawk-the sanguine looks good, what brand is it? the only ones ive used were too orangish and light.
keyth-nice lightsource, eye looks a TAD big though, or maybe its just me? anyway awesome work, and i dont mind the sketchy ones at all (post before that one)
mindcandyman-lookin better, maybe try a completely opaque black brush and try the same extreme lighting again so its impossible to get caught up in details. doind sp's like that helped me to place things a lot better.
jester-you look like the Hulk :p keep up the experimenting, looks like you're havin more fun while you practice.
ok heres last nights, once again finished last night but not posted because of my lame-ass server (liquid2k anyone? worst uploader ive ever used) anyway, i was getting really sick of using the same lighting, so i ditched the lamp for this one and just used monitor light.
October 25th, 2002, 05:37 PM
no pic this time, I was doing the stream/dream thing
@jhibbs - I like the full face on the page so close up
@keyth - I like the light oneside dark otherside with the headphones in contrast. Nice balance of detail and unfinished linework
@mind - its as if you are breaking out of a mould after the anger piece, go for it! maybe its the sock hat of inspiration you've got on there.
@blackhawk - what a cool sanguine ear, interesting pose too. I like the way the nose really comes forward
@jester its as if your proportions are getting better because the features weren't so familiar
@stephenC - pleased to meet you, are you hungry? The nose is well drawn but the eye and nose area seem small to me. I think its the forehead since the jaw exageration works with the snarl.
@ruby - aah so that's how you got the side pic
@Mr Brian - pleased to meet you too, wow definite progress the lighting in the last one is the best
@oblio - my self portraits have to timeslice with a full agenda, and they always feel overworked if I spend too long on them, but I promise I will try.
@wetters - yeah #4 has most intriguing atmosphere
@kaini - wow, amazing skill
October 25th, 2002, 07:00 PM
couldn't stay away, not my best but here it is anyway. Doen't look like me and those Painter 7 watercolour brushes always go dark on me, bleah.
October 26th, 2002, 01:39 AM
miasmak-very traditional look, i didnt realize until i read the post. it has the feel of a line and wash, but with some walnut ink instead of black.
heres todays, once again by monitor light (i get really bored with the desklamp :p )
October 26th, 2002, 02:09 AM
thanks everyone for all the replies on my last one, your comments always push me to be better the next day. the art life has been bad lately. i feel like my skill is decreasing with every passing day. it is as though i am looking through a filter, and can not see what is really there. i didnt do one yesterday because i was too upset with myself, and today i finally came up with this one after trashing one. with that said, i shall go to bed..tomorrow is another day.
October 26th, 2002, 02:54 AM
daarken: well, your stuff is more and more interesting to me. i think your struggle is worthwhile.
i set up two mirrors today. who would have guessed: a profile?!
October 26th, 2002, 03:24 AM
Howdy all I guess I might as well get my 2 cents in. Here is a 20 minute speed portrait.
Here is the Ref Pic I used. Its not perfect but Hey its my first speed portrait. Kind of Fun!!!
More to come!
October 26th, 2002, 03:37 AM
Ok one more for fun, this is a quick study. I call it Warms and cools.....
October 26th, 2002, 06:32 AM
I was too tired to finish this one. Parts of it are still really unfinished, especially the hand. oh well. Painter 7, Toddle's Brush. 1 hour 15.
Thanks for your comments everyone.
Daarken - I know exactly how you feel. Exactly. I've been feeling it the last 2 weeks, doesn't really help your confidence much :( Don't let it stop you though, keep working. Great SP btw.
MindCandy - I'm getting a red X on this end.
Keyth - I really like the contrast on the face on this one.
Jhibbs - Great set of SP's there, very nice. The brand is Cretacolor. I've never used Sanguine before, so I grabbed the cheapest sticks and they were Creta. They are nice to work with, did a few still-lifes today using them.
Mia - Thanks. Yeah, the nose pops, especially against that hideously flat face I put on it :P I'm going to blend the values a bit more when I do another sanguine SP. I just roughed it, which looks cool, but the values became really flat and dull in spots, especially on the face. Great SP there too. You accomplished the form on this one very well. I like it.
Littlejohn - Those white highlights are beautiful on this. Really gives this SP a nice feel.
MBStudios - Welcome to the thread. I like your style. The speed portrait is very well done. Keep them coming, we always appreciate a new face around here.
Have a great Saturday everyone.
October 26th, 2002, 06:57 AM
@blackhawk, don't finish it, I love the uncomplete side with the detail of the eye, perhaps just some definining lines on the hand to make it look like you meant it that way. Also I saw you started a bit of blending on the ear and lower lip of the sanguine one, I think it will be really rich and glowing if you do blend.
@MBStudio A new face, pleased to meet you!
@LittleJohn the highlights from the backlighting are really crisp, I can see the concentration oozing from the pores here.
@daarken probably not your skill level that's dropping but rather your expectations that are increasing. Just think how intensely awsome you could be if you can get your skill to catch up ... now let me guess, was this a mirror or a camera, confused :)
@jhibbs, yup my previous one is all Painter 7, I don't think I have anymore analog ink that hasn't dried up. The proportions in your latest one are better, but the forehead is a bit flat.
that's all folks
October 26th, 2002, 11:33 AM
ok I did some pilfering off blackhawks image, colour for the sanguine chalk and texture of the paper, sucked into Painter 7. This one doesn't look like me either, gotta do some proportion exercises.
October 26th, 2002, 04:08 PM
October 26th, 2002, 05:08 PM
Quick ones - sorry
welcome new faces... keep puching yourselfs
@Darken - you rock!
@Jester - best one yet (teeth are flat!!!) - about that finger... you are the artist - make the drawing how you want it to be not how it was looking. Reference... remember? YOU can change things... ;)
@litlejohn - KICK ASS
@Keyth - :chug: :beer: :D
@MBStudio - mirror... ok? ;)
@blackhawck - lovely pose.. nice drawing.
Gotta run - stand by for tomorrow... incoming news ;)
October 26th, 2002, 11:08 PM
Hey gang! This thread is so strong, it's amazing!
I've had a crazy time at work an was unable to do any SPODs, I'm laggin'
Here are two for the goofy face week. Hope fully I can do two more tomorrow.
btw, for those that mentioned, I used a camera for most but not all -and they do hurt after a while.
Lionel- That last one was your best yet! (IMHO) The SPODs are starting to pay off!
Well, I guess my face by itself is goofy enough!
October 26th, 2002, 11:17 PM
daarken-your stuff rocks, dont be so hard on yourself. the other day, i started 3 that i hated before i did the one i posted.
littlejohn-very nice work, the highlights are very crisp. what brush did you use?
oblio-i like the 'scared stiff' expression :p
hunter-you posted while i was writing, those are both amazingly good. i hope you can get more free time and make more
oh and to anyone who uses painter, i seem to have this problem where i accidentally zoom in to about 8500% and it takes up too much ram and freezes, anyone have a similar experience?
it just me or did the number of posts take a steep dive all of a sudden? anyway heres mine for today, i wanted to try something different. its inspired by the way i did the image in the dream speed painting thread.
October 27th, 2002, 07:48 AM
Face seems kind of long in this one. I had to draw it on the floor, so my viewing angle may have had something to do with it. Plus the right eye is slightly lower than the left :D Still turned out alright. I wanted to do a blended one for you Mia, but I accidentally grabbed the oil sanguine instead of the dry sanguine for this one, so no blending. I'll do one with the dry tomorrow night.
Oil sanguine on 11x17 charcoal paper. 30 minutes.
Mia - Thanks. The mouth on this one looks like it's skewed too much to the side. Nice job on it though and keep on practicing.
Daarken - This is a great SP. Keep working at it bud, you'll get out of the funk sooner than later. I think I finally got out of mine a bit, but by Monday it'll probably hit me full force again, so I'm going to enjoy it :D
Oblio - Thanks. The right one is sweet, I like the linework and the crazy eyes on it. Very cool.
MindCandy - I'm getting a red X here bud. I seem to be getting those a lot on your SP's lately. Hopefully it's resolved, I enjoy seeing your progress.
Hunter - lol, this stuff is great. I want to do a goofy face pose, but I have no camera. Like I said before, my face would probably explode. Last month I tried a pose where I barely opened my mouth and stuck out my tongue a bit. After 30 minutes the muscles in my face began to twitch like crazy. Funkiest sensation I ever had.
Jhibbs - Very cool style on this. Sweet work. As for your painter question, yeah, I've had it do the super-zooms too, fortunately I have enough RAM in this old beater so it won't freeze, but my machine lags like crazy on most brushes. It's going on 3 years old now :D As for the posts, yeah, I've been noticing it the last couple of weekends. A lot of the regular guys don't seem to be posting much as much, a lot of them are probably busy though. Plus it's the weekend, so people are probably out drinking and partying too :D I'm a homebody, so I stay in and draw all night.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
October 27th, 2002, 11:23 AM
late. don't beat me.
October 27th, 2002, 03:17 PM
Ahhhh, that's better. I think I've caught up. Heres two more to the pile, complete with bed-head.
Daarken- Nice image! Keep painting, you'll come out of the blahs. Daily exercises like this will help you in the future when your a big timer. I sympathize w/ you cause I never could have done more that two when I was in college.
Blackhawk- I used a photocopier once. (hmmmm . . .)
Keyth-I envy that you can be consistently good using so many different approaches.
October 27th, 2002, 06:49 PM
hunter-great stuff, ill definitely be looking for more of your work.
blackhawk-im diggin the sanguine, id definitely go buy some if A. i had money and B. my shitty school store was open on sundays :mad:
heres mine from this morning, i was doing it for about 30 min. when the sun came out and cast light stripes from the blinds across my face. made it a lot more interesting i'd say, and its not something i would've tried intentionally (seemed a bit too hard) but ill probably try it again now.
October 27th, 2002, 07:15 PM
October 27th, 2002, 08:01 PM
Intimate with the mirror - meaning i took it in bed for some marker bonanza.
This one is done while sitting on my tummy.
On this.. i was holding the mirror with my legs.
And some pencil work - HB and a drop of 6B.
October 27th, 2002, 08:50 PM
(posted here first :D)
A self portrait is not just a drawing. It’s finally...you. Painters or simply artists are bound to practice and to be inspired, and in the hunt for inspiration they ask the muse to bless them with a vision.
It is a saying - “God is always sending an angel… but if he doesn’t find a platform to land on, you’ll miss it”. And what if… by a funny chance you become the inspiration? What if the most beautiful entity in the universe is… you? The one you think you are, the one you want to be, the one the mirror shows, the one.
The whole universe is reflecting in your eye – look into it!
1 NOVEMBER 2002
INTERNATIONAL DAY OF SELF PORTRAIT
a tribute to Andrew Jones.
Andrew Jones does his self-portrait EVERY DAY. Along with him.. many others have discovered the rest of the iceberg. It's much more than drawing.
It’s easy to start, easier to drop, and damn hard to get back to it again. If you are planning to start, join us on November 1. I guess Andrew would like that :)
If your have reconsidered art after seeing Andrew Jones SPOD’s, do your self portrait.
If you want to make a step to a brand new ZEN EXPERIENCE, do your self portrait.
If you want to take part in a world record, do your self portrait.
Visit www.conceptart.org/forums and be amazed.
There is only one rule: Do your self portrait on November 1
Andrei Fantana (my nick just wouldn’t be enough this time ;) )
P.S. – Please post this message on every art forum you know.
If half of the concepartorgians will join, we will have 500 SP’s done in a single day! How about that?
October 28th, 2002, 01:56 AM
October 28th, 2002, 01:59 AM
i've been looking at Android's portraits for so long and never noticed this sub forum!! anyway, what a collection of work in here. here is my small contribution, unfortunately, i don't have much free time to do a self portrait a day, but here are a few of mine. the first two are graphite pencil on bristol board, the last is digitally painted in photoshop
October 28th, 2002, 02:31 AM
minimalist portrait, had to refrain myself from going furtherhttp://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/minamalist_portrait.jpg
October 28th, 2002, 02:31 AM
keyth-interesting way to play with the shadows.
zippzopp-the photoshop one is the best imo, very sharp.
i didnt have anything to do today, so here's number 2 for me. you shoulda seen the crazy setup i had to use for this view
October 28th, 2002, 04:41 AM
@hunter what can I say, accurate yet goofy, even the serious face ones make me want to laugh. Did you do the last one from a photo as well.
@jhibbs cool departure from your normal style in your last three. I love the loose sunny squint eye one. Keep experimenting.
@blackhawk intense stare, you are not completely comfortable in sanguine yet. This one is better than your previous sanguine one for me.
@keyth wonderful line work. oct27 has a huge forehead
@oblio I like the style of the last one and the expression but I suspect the proportions in the first one may be more accurate.
@oblio:re:international portrait day. How will this work if I post it elsewhere? Do you just want a link here to the appropriate thread there?
@ZippZopp pleased to meet you, I like the last one best. Probably the attitude.
@StephenC it says from memory at the bottom, does that mean you didn't even use a mirror? I like it minimal
October 28th, 2002, 05:39 AM
hunter: more great stuff from you. i envy your skills! your proportions are always dead on...something i have been having a problem with.
keyth: hah, is it just me or did your forehead get bigger in that last one? i like all the really simple ones youve been doing. haha, the one you did on the 23rd my gf thought it was a dog. good stuff, heh
ok, i need to go to bed...i didnt get to finish all my hw, damn.
all i have to say about tonights is that chapped lips suck.
October 28th, 2002, 06:01 AM
Did another sanguine tonight. Still not down with blending with this stuff. Sometimes it smooths out like butter, and other times it absolutely doesn't want to budge. It's a fun medium though. I love doing these. I may switch it up and try a different paper next time.
35 minutes, Sanguine dry, 11 x 17 charcoal paper.
Keyth - I love the simplicity on this one. Very well done considering I can still recognize ya. Good job. Second one has a long forehead :D
Hunter - A copier? lol, I bet that one was interesting to draw. I may have to try that, I'll end up smearing my greasy face all over it though :D Great set here, awesome work.
Mia - Thanks for the comment. The proportions and placement look much better in this one. Your stuff is definitely coming together. Nice work.
Oblio - Nice set of SP's here. Top one is my favorite. Second one is very interesting. I'm very much into the odd mirror placement, I've almost killed myself a few times with the positions I've put my mirror and body through :D Good work, love the Nov. 1 idea. I'll definitely be doing an SP that day (obviously)
ZippZopp - Welcome to the thread. I love all 3 of these. The reflection off the sunglasses in the photoshop one is stellar. Great work.
StephenC - The right eye and nose are funky, but the lips are great. I love the suggestive linework you used on the upper lip. The nose, even for a minimalist portrait, maybe could have benefitted from a little more controlled form. Nice work nonetheless, great job.
Jhibbs - Thanks. I'm getting Red X's on all of yours :(
Daarken - Nice lips :D I'm digging the little sores you put all over them. How are you coming along with your artists funk? If your still feeling out of it, don't hesitate to PM me.
October 28th, 2002, 12:43 PM
ok, i had a vacation last week, worked my ass off, did exactly 4 sp's and some other bunch of drawings, which i will not scan, because they are all ugly, and i'm gonna pick up where i left off because i now, supposedly, have enough time off, for at least...let's say..2 weeks... then , again, i have tentamns (is this how you spell it?).... sheesh. i need more vacation. maybe i'll do my sp's in the middle of the night, but i think my parents will then drag me from the computer and force me to sleep :D
well, here is yesterdays, i spot some errors in the likeness with myself, and the scan made it ugly, but i'm pretty happy with most of the shading and such...yellow paper again.
http://home.hccnet.nl/henk.middendorp/jurjen/tekeningen/27-10.jpg 45 minutes with coffee breaks
ok, for comments i have not much to say, since everyone here kicks my ass, hard!:mad: ;)
@blackhawk: the left eye looks off on your last one wrong placement/angle i think.... other then that, wow!
@oblio&keyth: sorry , cant see your sp's i got a new firewall and it blocks cookies and i think i blocked something from that fortunecity of yours...all that wants to show up is a fortunecity banner :( sorry i'll try at school tomorow and watch how good you guys are :)
@stephenC: try to watch your proportions more, the forehead looks really low, and the placement and perspective of the eyes looks off...let's see more:)
@jhibbs: [X], sorry, i'm sure it looks great (ps. make another huge one along with an inkwash tutorial, i picked up some india ink :D )
@miasmak: :eek: :cool: really great! the proportions look good, i think, maybe the eyes are a litle bit too big... i dont know...i'm stupid :D :chug:
@everyone else, welcome, great work, cya tomorrow :chug:
October 28th, 2002, 02:28 PM
Hi everyone, I am really sorry about my links being broken for so long. Phantomarts went down and I didn't know it cause I was doing a film shoot this weekend. Sorry about that guys. Here is the SP that you missed...
It has a lot of problems but I learned a lot through it.
October 28th, 2002, 03:11 PM
Hey mindcandyman, check you out! You are getting way better. I think this bout of frustration you have had was a growing spurt.
Looks great keep going (i know you will).
October 28th, 2002, 03:16 PM
Thanks Jon! I really appreciate it. It's hard to keep pushing when you can't even draw a circle correctly. It helps to have encouragement.
I bow to your greatness.:bow:
October 28th, 2002, 03:37 PM
October 28th, 2002, 04:08 PM
Hi, I'm finally back... Hard time for me these last two week, lot of question without any answers, but hey, I'm fed of them and think it's time to do thing back!
I've not spend the last two week doing nothing, I've experiment with color and do some illustration too :) Hope I will be able to use what i've learn to do some SP!
October 28th, 2002, 04:24 PM
here my first atempt to any self portrait.
i´am not realy happy with the result- but i will work on my skills...
cant promise a daily update, but will try it.
October 28th, 2002, 07:21 PM
Miasmac, that is very arresting. My favorite of yours to date.
Everyone here has proven to me what a positive, determined art spirit can do! Fantastic work! I am teaching next semester at RISD and this has got me thinking that a class completely devoted to a self portrait a day would be one of the best things for an art school student or any one at any stage in their art life.
I am just thinking out loud but thought to share it with you, as you are the inspiration.
October 28th, 2002, 07:32 PM
hey, Jon... drop a tip around here to.. now and then... good luck with your class. (i wish i could be there)
goota go - i felt asleep manny times during this SP (heavily pushing myself not to) and yet i think that going to bad wouldn't help much since i'll not be able to sleep either. well.. life goes like this...
October 28th, 2002, 08:19 PM
i think i am addicted....
first cg one, 45 min photoshop and my little mouse.
must sleep now...
October 29th, 2002, 03:17 AM
Doing nose and mouth tonight. Nose and eyes tomorrow night. Took me an hour and a half. I tried getting some texture so it wouldn't look so digital, but I failed at it. I'll try a different technique and brush tomorrow night.
Coriat - Welcome back. Proportions are looking much better in this one. Work on the form of the nose though. Keep working at it bud. You are correct in pointing out the eye. For some reason, eye alignment on the 3/4 pose is my bane. I can't nail it for some reason. I may just sit down one night and draw quick 3/4 head studies over and over and over and over and over and over again so I can get the damn eye alignment burned into my brain :D
MindCandyMan - Great improvement man :D You are definitely pulling it all together. Very nice to see. As soon as you feel confident with the front pose proportions, start doing different head poses that involve foreshortening and 3/4, really jostles with the mind and is great practice. Great work man.
Mia - I like the colors and the shading on this one a lot. Great job.
Orban - Welcome back. Great job on proportions on this with the tilted head pose. Watch out for the form on the nose though. ( I must be on a nose craze these last couple of days :D) Keep on posting them up.
Rapunzel - Welcome to the thread. The eyes are a little large and out of place on the first couple pencils you did, but the third one is much nicer. I like it a lot. Great job on it.
Foster - Thanks for the words to everyone. Your a total inspiration to a lot of us, especially me, and the students at RISD are lucky to have you teaching some classes down there. Good luck with it, I hope it goes well for you.
Oblio - I like the deep contrasts on this piece. I really dig your style, with how loose and rough it is. Very nice work.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
October 29th, 2002, 06:22 AM
@daarken ouch some virtual lip balm coming your way...
@blackhawk wierd how the sanguine changes colour to be more red where it is blended, I like it. the facial features seem small in comparison to the size of the head.
@mindcandyman wow your volumes are progressing. The nose has a real 3D feel to it. YOu don't have to be able to draw a circle, only a face :)
@orban i like the composition, the ears seem too high
@rapunzel cool, another new face, welcome! this thread comes with a surgeon general's warning due to its highly addictive nature, as you've discovered. Great job on #3
@foster thanks for the comment. Good luck with your class.
@oblio i like the brush strokes around the eyes and bridge of the nose best
@blackhawk this is a intimate and up close crop which works I think, strange effect not being able to see the eyes. maybe if you tried a different paper type or changed the scale/contrast of the paper (assuming you are working in painter) you'd get a different effect with the textures.
October 29th, 2002, 06:57 AM
Hello again :) am still alive ;). I decided to try and speed up so I tried to do this one quickly so it doesn't look very polished.
Blackhawk: You have been improving in leaps and bounds. Did you try and add texture using a textured brush. If so I always think it looks a little false on other peoples works and there is no harm in it looking digital. I am really digging your traditional stuff.
.:RAPUNZEL:.: It is definatly one of the more health adictions to have good stuff
Oblio: I know the feeling I am soo tired today but couldn't sleep this morning. Was woken up early with a call from my new landlords :/. That piece covays the mood perfectally
Orban: Nice improvment keep them comming :)
miasmak: Woooo that last one is cool definatly your best yet
foster: My deep thanks for your comments here. They really help to spur people on and is this friendly atitude that really seems to bee keeping this thread alive.
MindCandyMan: I get and X :/
coriat: Your proportions are definatly improving good stuff
daarken: Your stuff rocks :). Please keep them coming.
jhibbs: Every single one of yours gets better and better. You should try looking through them at some stage I think you will be amazed by the improvement.
StephenC: I always find minamalist very hard as I find it so dificult to place lines accuratly :/. Good stuff!
ZippZopp: Seen some of thouse before :). You would be surprise how quickly you can do an sp. They are a great way to losen up :).
keyth: Great stuff as always.
littlejohn: It is always a really triet to see your stuff in this thread.
Mr.Brian: Wow thouse are great would love to see some more
jester: nice to see you having fun with colors in you sp :) good work.
hunter: Thanks for them comments :). I certainly find that doing sps helps lots :). I am definatly going to keep going as I have a loong way to go. Lost this last one a bit though :/. I really love you stuff thouse last few are really great!! Your charictor comes across really well.
Well I am out of time sorry for the short replies and sorrt to anyone I missed. Hopefully see you tommorow :).
October 29th, 2002, 09:36 AM
I felt so alone last night...I felt like the shadows were winning.
I wanted to apologize to everyone...every free image hosting place that I use is going down recently...I'm sorry about that. I am using ranchoweb.com in the meantime so hopefully that won't go down...I can't afford to get my own site but someday I will.
Lionel - I changed the link to my previous SP so you should be able to view it. I really like this latest one. You captured the pose well.
miasmak - I like this recent one. I think it is a step in the right direction for you. I am starting to see your style come through in the form.
blackhawk - I like this most recent one. It must be really difficult to get so close up on the face...sheesh. Good stuff man keep trying for that texture. Try switching up papers in painter see if that helps.
Oblio - Wow scary...don't hurt me. I like this recent one...it has a lot of emotion. I have been there many times too...falling asleep on the keyboard.
Rapunzel - Great first self portraits. They are excellent for your first attempt. I like the first one the best I think.
Orban - Wow this latest one is really good...I love the pose and the way you captured your expression. The nose is too small but other than that I think it's great. Quick tip...that sometimes helps me...the sides of the nose end right where the eyes start if you are looking straight on at someone. Great job man.
coriat - Your proportions are getting a whole lot better. Keep it up man...you are improving quickly!
daarken - I think there is something about homework, no matter what you are doing, that just makes it undesirable. Maybe it's just the fact that someone else is telling us what to do. I'm not sure but I feel your pain. Great close up on this one.
Jhibbs - I love this one. I think the lighting you have captured is great! It almost has a classic feel to it. I love it.
Keyth - Good stuff. Glad your not drunk hehe. Sorry...I couldn't resist.
October 29th, 2002, 11:00 AM
about two hours. i know the hair is a little bit messy, and i am looking a bit strange...
hopefully tomorrow the postmen is ringing and i will receive my wacom- some sort of combined birthday and x-mas present- (saved money the last 4 months).
@ Oblio: love the rough lines. the day i joined that thread i also couldn't fall asleep. so i painted my first cg one. i hate it when i lie in my bed, and i am more awake then all the day.
@ Blackhawk: looking forward for the next parts. maybe you try a canvas structure?
@ Lionel: very smooth brushwork.
@ MindCandyMan: nice mood. showing less is often more. discovered the left eye after a few minutes (sun was dazzeling).
i think i cant post tomorrow- my girlfriend is coming. shit- she and my wacom arrive on the same day!? ;) the old battle of priorities.
October 29th, 2002, 11:14 AM
my posts are a day late. :eek: can't reply atm. everyone is kicking A$$. i must say though. mindcandyman: that last one is creep city....I LOVE IT!!! thanks for the comments and remember...........KEEEP EM COM'N!!!!!!!!!!!:chug:
October 29th, 2002, 03:06 PM
Ummm, back a bit late - yesterday I had the chance to meet an old friend who lives 500 km away. That's why I'm way behind with my comments. I just jump in on the last page.
Not satisfied at all with my portrait, probably due to that break since Friday.
@miasmak - nice chiaroscuro effect, the lower lip seems to protude too much - or was it what you wanted?
@Orban - I like sanguine - and the angled position of your head. Your strokes seem very confident, that's good. The bridge of your nose is a bit small, isn't it?
@RAPUNZEL - a new face! welcome! Regarding your painting from 29th: your eyes don't look into the same direction.
@forster - I think it's a wonderful idea to start such a class. However, without the regular comments of the participants I think it's bound to die or to become very frustrating for the students.
@Oblio - for being asleep while drawing ;) this is very good!
@Blackhawk - details are cool! :cool:
@Lionel - nice to see you again. That unpolished look is very charming
@MindCandyMan - gosh! What an improvement!!! :cool: :D :cool:
@keyth - nice lighting.
October 29th, 2002, 03:56 PM
Hi, lionel suggested I repost this here in the gues self portraits, there's some really incredible stuff going on in here, thanks lionel!
I did this with ps 7 and a wacom, over 3 days. The finished piece was for a large format digital printing course, and was made at 30 by 22 inches. What do you guys think?
October 29th, 2002, 04:33 PM
I love this portrait. Looks totally awesome man. And wow 30 by 22 inches???? That must have lagged your computer down so much...sheesh that is huge!!!
October 29th, 2002, 04:55 PM
thought I'd also try the liquid ink brush to get me to not get fixated on the detail. lighter brush on black for a twist then duplicated and fiddled with the liquid ink a bit.
October 29th, 2002, 06:56 PM
This is my first attempt with painter 7...so i tried almost all the brushes to do this selfportrait
i dont like alote the end result..
it have been better that i stop before putting the dark strokes, but it's almost my first digital drawing i need more practice
comments and critics r welcome...
MindCandyMan> thx for your comment in reply to my first post
October 29th, 2002, 07:20 PM
October 29th, 2002, 09:39 PM
I'm just impressed all around with the talent out there. Thought I would post my pitiful mug for what it's worth. Got tired of the same old same old, so I put a twist on it. May the force be with you! :D
October 29th, 2002, 11:57 PM
Latest self portrait
http://www.imagemagician.com/images/elephantdiarrhe/Painting 47 scary SP.jpg
I love that yoda one bro...awesome.
October 30th, 2002, 01:23 AM
Oct 29 Oct 29 Oct 29 Oxt 29 lct 329 Oc 2
congrats everyone. wee we.....we are now at 50 pages of blood......sweat......and tears. i take my hat off to all of you. individuals with such an interest and determination are few and far.
thanks everyone.....through the good and the bad....
KKKKEEEEPPPPP 'EEEMMMMMM CCCCCOOOMMM'NNN!!!
***REMEMBER*** November starts the monthly Guest SP threads. All bow down to this moster of documentation.
50 pages.............gasp! you all ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 30th, 2002, 01:55 AM
color study for a drawing that's due in..less than a week, guhhh....prismacolor marker/pencil/dash of white acrylic..
@joe, your sp's pretty awesome...makes me feel gross. anytime art can emit a feeling, it's a success in my book. we should definitely get down wiht some videogame nerdiness in the near future
@mindcandyman- your stuff is rapidly improving! keep up the new concepts, diggin it
@oblio-i've noticed an awesome growth in yours as well. it's really cool to see talent grow.
everyone else, your stuff is inspiring as well. keeps me drawing!
now, back to vice city.... :evilbat:
October 30th, 2002, 02:03 AM
mia: heh, thanks. i needed that!
mind: you have really been doing a good job lately. i really like the dark one and the new one. great stuff.
keyth: man, you have some great new sps! you are getting so dark and scary, heh. keep it up.
blankslate: welcome! this is a great piece! your proportions and everything looks good, and the tendril things are cool!
mattp: welcome to you as well. this is a good start. just make sure to really look at what your eyes look like. look at the shapes of the ellipses of the top and bottom lid. they probably arent the same. i actually like the lines a lot, good job!
smeagol: another new addition! hehe, this is a great sp. you have some great modeling there. i really get a good sense of the form.
i am behind...i didnt get one done yesterday or on the 26th. i will try get them done! laters.
October 30th, 2002, 02:41 AM
hey everyone, thanx for the comments.
sorry about these two :p definitely not my best. although my daily's always suffer when im working on a big one (my third now).
and coriat, about the tutorial, im flattered you ask, id be glad to. i dont have the digital camera any more, but i do have the progress shots from the other two.
i feel ive come a LOOOONG way from number one though, and i was originally planning on stopping at one hundred, but now i dont wanna stop at all. 365 if anything :P anyone else have a number to reach? or just kinda going..
it especially dissapointed me that i didnt realize the first one here is number 50 for me.... didnt realize till afterwards. and todays.... wooo had a horrible one before this, lets just say i saved over it intentionally, and i dont do that :p so i made a real quick one.
October 30th, 2002, 02:54 AM
here is my quick attempt for today, i'm tryin to get back into doin more portraits, i'd been having a pretty bad day and i wasn't wanting to do any sort of drawing, but i was able to scratch this bad one out
daarken- great stuff you've got! i love the way your stuff turns out, i'm a big fan of dark, mysterious portraits!
Hunter - awesome portraits, you capture color and mood so well, i envy the work you produce!
Lionel- thanks for the comments! i was about to go to bed and i checked the forum and saw your comments so i decided to sketch one out quickly! thanks!!
anyway, here it is, nothing special, but i'm starting to get the feeling back
October 30th, 2002, 04:41 AM
here we go once more. i have tried to start with the outline of the face, all recent sketches were done that way, and i gotta admit, though i got some problems with that approach, it works a lot better than starting "inside" the head, ie working out from the eyes or the nose.
keyth: would you do a non-digital sp for us? pretty please (with sugar on top and a cherry)
October 30th, 2002, 05:06 AM
retro: hey mister i'm not doing anymore sp's.
no really, go away ;)
those are great... the first and last are the best...maybe the nose is a litle bit too long on the first one...don't know for sure though. great work bud :chug: :beer:
October 30th, 2002, 05:11 AM
Hey everyone. Did the eyes and nose tonight. Came out alright, took me about an hour. I like doing these individual face part studies. I think I'm going to toss it up a bit tomorrow night. Sorry I can't comment tonight. I'm working on finishing a video and this SP took a large chunk out of my available time. Incredible work everyone, this is the best damn thread out there... period :D
October 30th, 2002, 05:23 AM
@ coriat: you're right about the nose. maybe i lied (hope i dont misspell) too much recently ;)
October 30th, 2002, 05:34 AM
This is my first digital self-portrait. I did this in Painter 7 with the tinting tool, basic rounds. Took me a long time to do but I learned A LOT from it.
October 30th, 2002, 08:38 AM
Damm it I saved my sp onto a disk as I don't have cable yet and it seems to have corupted so you will have to wait till tomorrow :/.
negativespace: Good first digital portrat. The more you do the faster you will get. You will be churning them out in no time :).
Blackhawk: good stuff :) have you considered just covering a piece of paper with noses and eyes :)
retro002: Thanks you for sharing thouse with use. I always find it easies to start with the eyes but I find I spend too long focusing in on the details and I get the overall picture wrong. Really need to find a better way of working
ZippZopp: Really glad to see you join us :). I often find it hard to draw when I am not in the mood but I always start enjoying myself when I get started :). I find just doing one everydays helps my drawing sooo much. I doesn't matter if it is complete crap (I can't speak for everybody but I have certainly posted some really bad images) it all really helps. I recond I learn more from a bad image than a good one. I like that last one and I really look foward to seeing more.
jhibbs: Damm 50 that is really good going I am only on my 29 th :/. I think you deserve a good pat on the back. Keep them comming :)
daarken: That purple is really inspired :). Don't stress about being behind too much rember that this is fun or you will just put yourself off doing them.
cotron: Wow the colors on that face are really something special :) good luck getting the final piece in on time.
keyth: I bet a large number of thouse 50 pages are sp by you I think you really deserve congradulations yourself.
MindCandyMan: Nice experimenting looks like you had fun painting that one. That dark one has great atmosphere :) love it. I know that feeling well.
Smeagol71: lol looks very cool and may the force be with you too :).
Oblio: Nice simple drawing :) you seem to be getting better at simplefing.
Matt-p: Damm that is a good first atempt. I recon if you put a few more highlights in there it may look a little better but good job
miasmak: I have the same problem getting fixed on deatils :/. You could try painting all the painting in rough first (screw up you eyes and just look at youself through slits to hide the details). Then add the details later. If you suceed in doing this then tell me how coz I sure haven managed it yet :/.
blankslatejoe: Really glad you posted here that is a very cool image :) I really love thouse colors :). inspirational.
jester: You have a bit of a concave nose. If you fix that I bet that will look a whole lot better. good work on the hair
.:RAPUNZEL:.: That is very cool. You sure look mean. Thouse eyes are possible a little small but the sp has a very cool look
October 30th, 2002, 10:42 AM
Lionell: Thanks man, I appreciate you showing me this link! I'd been here once or twice before, but it was a long time ago.
Contron: Nice work, that portrait is very nice looking. Videogames sound good to me
Mind Candy Man: Thanks! yeah the large size did lag the computer a little, so I kept the resolution at 150 dpi. I printed the final piece on BFK reeves watercolor paper through a gecley printer.
retro:nice nice sketches!
Thanks for the warm welcome guys, I'm glad to be here! I'll drum up some more work soon!!
October 30th, 2002, 11:26 AM
Hah, I'm back...what a nice feeling...well, i promised to come back with a SP...so I had to!
I did much more work on paper than on computer the last days. And it feels much better on paper than I remembered. The WACOM-felling is a bit odd now, but I will always draw on it, too. Now this SP is a 20 minutes quicky, nothing planed or arranged. Just started doodling and there was my mirror there in front of me...well that is what I saw.
Take the earphones as tribute to keyth and all those earphoners...
And wooosh! How this post exploded the last three weeks!!! I had to look through all those art for an hour to get here...And I do really look forward to that monthly thread. Perhaps we should start to look for some nice sponsors?
October 30th, 2002, 12:53 PM
hey all me again...i'm quite happy with this one...not because it's so good or anything, but it looks like me, even more like the one before this one...
for those interested, it's my 15th sp....man, i'm nothing :(
ok, let's list all the errors i can see sofar:
1. the angle of the nose and mouth is off...is started out wanting to draw me with my head at an angle...and ended up with everything at different angles ...like usual.
2. The forehead isnt large, it's supposed to be a litle long :) it looks weird because i've drawn the hair wrong.
3. the shading is #$%^& i got a really soft pencil yesterday (6B) and it smudges everywhere...i should lift my hand when drawing or something
if you spot anything else wrong with it, tell me,
and even still, i'm pretty happy with it :D
ok, comment time...:evilbat:
(side-note: wow, there's so many people here! i don't have time to comment everyone:bash: if i forget someone, kick me :p no, really :D)
-smeagol: :eek: :cool: wow, you showed that, with correct proportion, you can do anything with your own head :D how cool, great job on the shadows!
-hermchen: the lower portion of the face looks a bit stretched (i mean long...i hate my bad english :) ). looks very good...drawing with a tablet is always awkward to me..especially if it's not a super-high-priced wacom, like mine :) g/j, welcome back (same goes for retro :p)
-retro: hey pinnochio...:rolleyes:
-negativespace: take a close look at your eyes..or actually above your eyes...there's a litle bulge there and a 'line' where your eyelid comes out ...the way you've drawn the space between your eyes and eyebrows makes you look asian....
and if you're asian don't mind what i said, since asian peeps have really tight skin there..or something :)
but if you aren't, i think that painting will really improve if you corrected it.
-blackhawk: :eek: speechless :eek: g/j :chug:
well, that's it everyone, cya tonight, when i finish my sp for today :)
October 30th, 2002, 01:14 PM
Obviously not my week... :( :( :( Come on, rip it! (No, I don't wear a mustache...)
@blankslatejoe - welcome. cooooool spod! :cool:
@miasmak - hmmm, can't make out your light source, perhaps you could try a strong single lamp from one side.
@Matt-p - and another new face, welcome, too. I like your spod, no crits.
@Oblio - reduced but nice
@Smeagol71 - :D May the force be with you, too! :D
@MindCandyMan - more a portrait of your inner self at work? ;)
@keyth - I've seen better ones from you...
@cotron - your left arm (the one supporting your head) looks like floating to me, apart from that: good job!
@daarken - good job, as almost always. I never get the hang of how I can put in so many shadows and still keep my features recognizable.
@jhibbs - well, I'm just kinda going, looking how long it takes till my family, friends and especially my partner finally say "yes, that's you". Cause normally they admit that I'm improving but insist that the portrait isn't showing me (looking too harsh, too old, like someone else...). I really like your second portrait, in the first one I like the grey dots.
@ippZopp - and the third new face, welcome as well.
@retro002 - all portraits are amazing but the first one's first! :)
@Blackhawk - since you left enough space it rather looks unfinished than an eye-and-nose-study. Particularly your left eye is rendered wonderfully!
@negativespace - my first spod in Painter is a dragon I still have to face. Good job.
@Lionel - yes, I was completely unhappy with the nose but couldn't work out what it was. It was a really bad one, no one else commented (probably they were too polite?! ;) )
@Hermchen - so you're back. Nice to see you again.
@coriat - very expressionistic look, esp. on that yellow paper
October 30th, 2002, 03:59 PM
Jester - It's funny what you replied to jhibbs because I was just going to say that you are getting closer and closer to your likeness everyday. Keep pushing...I have only been drawing for like 6 weeks but I know the 4th and 5th weeks in there were really really frustrating...I am sure coming up soon I wwill have another. It's pushing through those hard times and learning through them that makes a good artist right?... Keep it up...I can see constant improvement.
coriat - Definitely best one yet. Yeah I see what you are saying about the placement of the hair. But I can see you grasping the proportions. You are definitely getting better. There's something I've learned on these boards...don't bust on yourself. Channel that energy into staying up even later and doing an extra self portrait or extra drawing, etc... You are good and you will be better coriat. Keep drawing.
Hermchen - I really like this one. The spontaneity of the lines makes it really appealing to look at. Great job.
negativespace - Wow just the tinting tools huh...sheesh that sounds like a nightmare. Looks great though!
Blackhawk - Nice work man. I think tonight I am gonna use a brown canvas tonight cause I like the way your portraits look. I think honing in on those areas is helping you out tremendously. I think it will help you tremendously when you go back to doing your full face.
retro - Nice work man. I really like the green one and the one where you are wearing the straw hat (or whatever kind of hat it is). Your style is unique. I remember you saying you don't like cross hatching a while back hehe. Try cross hatching for the whole rest of next week just to stretch yourself. Just an idea take it or leave it. Good work as usual man!
Zippzopp - Keep it up man...persevere through the days when it gets hard! Keep it up man it will pay off in the end.
jhibbs - You are right...you have come a long way even from the ones that I have seen. Great work...sometimes things don't turn out the best. But these two are still good. I like them.
daarken - good stuff as usual man...glad to hear you are getting your homework done hehe...
cotron - I really like this one. I guess it's the red behind you but it almost has an angry feel to it...but your pose is very calm. I like it.
keyth - this one is creepy. Looks really cool man. I like the lighting scheme.
Smeagol - You rock...skill always runs in the family...hopefully it will trickle down to me hehe. (He's my brother hehe)
Oblio - Sorry you are having troubles lately man...that sucks. I like the simple lines on this last one. Stay strong man!
matt-p - Good stuff...you got my other note
miasmak - The liquid ink brush is really hard for me to use. I like the one you did with it...very interesting. Because of the lighting setup that you made I would have darkened the ear on the left of the painting. That way the lighting would be more consistent. Good work keep em coming.
YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE IS AWESOME...KEEP IT UP GUYS. YOU INSPIRE ME TO KEEP LEARNING!
October 30th, 2002, 06:12 PM
Hi everyone and thanks for the comments.
This was a quick one done in painter 7 messing around with the dry ink tool.
Jester: Nice texture on the sp, maybe try a drawing one on some tonal paper next.
Coriat: Yes I am asian. I don't have that line above my eye but I kinda wish I did. I like drawing that part of the eye for some reason.:p
Hermchen: Nice! I like the sketchiness and loosness of your sp.
Seeing Andrew's posts and this thread has been an inspiration to me.
October 30th, 2002, 08:19 PM
this was a hard one...
retro - hi... great ones again. tried your approach (outside it - definitely harder, meaning that we lear more stuff :))
negative - hi. Nice to see you around - you have some cool sp's. Try to blend the values more - i (for one) would love to see one smooth sp from you.
mindcandy - thx. keep it up. That last one is dope - yet, do more acurate studies! :chug:
keyth - what is a self portrait? :D just do you best SP ever on november 1 ;)
jester - Jason (Manley) said something like: If you are unhappy wit it, don't post it. You will learn A LOT from corecting a wrong one instead of begining a new one.
coriat - same as Jes...
Herm - ha.. do we know this guy? :D Man.. how is your love going? Strong i hope - you still have those eyes.. crossed a bit :p
lionel, daark, smeagol, blackhawk, jhibbs, ALL - KEEP IT UP. You ROCK!
October 30th, 2002, 09:11 PM
quick one! off to a painting workshop!
October 30th, 2002, 11:10 PM
first one for me, yay !
about 1 hour in painter7
the nose is quite off i think, i'll try to do better on the next one (maybe not everyday for me ... i'll see)
and thanxs a lot andrew for inspiring us
precision : done with a mirror, not a photo
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