pencil portraits

[Soupy]

First time back to CA in a year! Here are some of my good friends done in pencil. Enjoy.

sry bout the quality..

http://images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/119/c/d/Chells.jpg

http://images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/119/c/b/Colin.jpg

http://thumbs.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/09/3/d/Dubes.jpg

some prisma coolgreys:
http://thumbs.deviantart.com/300W/images2.deviantart.com/i/2004/07/4/6/EDuv_portrait.jpg

>:D

[Soupy]

no feedback? Cmon guys I just started College as an art major I'd really like come crits. Peace! :confident

[krispee]

can`t see any images soupy, maybe they didn`t link properly....

krispee

[Soupy]

OH DAMMIT! That's why no1 replied :nohope: Thx for tellin me man lemme see wat i can do....

[Soupy]

http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2004/268/c/7/Chells_by_lavahed2000.jpg

http://ic1.deviantart.com/images3/i/2004/119/c/b/Colin.jpg

hope they worked that time!! :yawn:

[miltonmaniac]

The first one looks real good. Nicely constructed head and the hair looks good.

[krispee]

i agree with miltonmaniac on the first drawing...good construction, that`s the main thing here, you`ve got the main proportions right and you`re beginning to work on the tones and values.....they need a little more work but it works as it is at the moment.....nice eyes and hair but perhaps the ear may need a little more work, people always forget about the ear......
the second is a harder pose, a tilted head throws proportion if you`re not careful, and in this case it looks like the eyes are out although you have the basic proportions ok apart from that.....the ear is again neglected somewhat..........the shading isn`t as good on this as the first, too hard in some places when it needed to be blended, giving you a hard line which doesn`t look right....at the top of the right nostril for instance.......
anyway, hope i haven`t been overly hard on ya.....
you do have shapes and proportions pretty good, which is great......keep it up dude

krispee

[Yoonjin]

What school are u going to? I think that we both do the same mistakes, cause we are smudgeing to much. Maybe the hair could på a little better pulled off, but thats just my opinon, besides that your proportions are wellbalanced.

Please send back some crits for me (except that the contrast are a bit off, the eyes got to dark during the scan)

http://www.tenjin.se/yoonjin/anni2.jpg

[sula_nebouxi]

Heya soupy.

Those portraits are pretty good. I agree with what krispee mentioned, the eyes need work. Maybe a more experienced eye can help me out here but, looking at the first portrait, her eyes look like they're on two different "planes". Her right eye seems to pop out too much while her left sinks in a little too much.

I just got done reading through KChen's tutorial, that thread should give you some pointers on how to tackle the face since it includes stuff on perspective for the head. Here it is:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1432

[Soupy]

milton - Thx!!

Krispee - Nah man you werent too hard on me at all. I know that my shading needs work, as well as my proportions, and its because I've never been taught anything to help me do portraits.... at all..i taught myself and just started doing them..that's why I appreciate all of your help!! Thanx!!

Yoonjin - It does look like we're on the same level as far as portraits go..and I really like that pose!!

sula - Thx!! and I will def. check out KChen's tutorial.

ty every1!! :bashful:

[ProjectZeppherv2]

*misclennaous question* what college are you going to?

the first face is good, buyt the second ones bone-structure and features are skewed

[Soupy]

ProjectZeppher - Umass Dartmouth. Thx for the comment! and the second one.. skewed? it doesnt look too bad to me..

[Yoonjin]

Soupy I agree, its a bit skewed, becuase his face goes into his glasses and suddenly (below) it falls outside.

[Soupy]

thats what happens when you look through the glasses. I drew what i saw, and that's what the glasses did to his face.

[Yoonjin]

But the thing is that it couldnt not possible look that way, I know the glasses distort the image but in that case both up and down

[Soupy]

ok well i dunno wat you want me to say. I drew EXACTLY what I saw, and you haven't seen the refercence picture, so THE END!!

[one2hit]

ok well I dunno wat you want me to say. I drew EXACTLY what I saw, and you haven't seen the refercence picture, so THE END!!

O_O *hands j00 a chill pill*
Listen...you're gonna get crits. The best part about it is that you're getting them from a fresh eye. When we're talking about proportionally correct features in art, one of the most important aspects is how it looks to other people. If you want to make something accurate to real life (putting expressionism aside) we want everyone to accept it. It can't just be "well it looks good to me!" For accuracy to ensue it has to be good to all. If someone says it does not look good, that is positive feedback that you have something to work on to improve, it doesn't matter what you think in this regard so don't worry about defending it too much.

As for the glasses on the first portrait; over all the face seems in good proportions, and doesn't seem to be skewed. Do you know what skewed is? Yes. It's when a plane in space turns a new direction. You can witness this amazing phenomenon yourself in Photoshop with the "transform --> skew" option!!@1./ I think what was posted above "Soupy I agree, its a bit skewed, because his face goes into his glasses and suddenly (below) it falls outside." was talking about refraction. Refraction happens when light travels through glass. You can see it when you look at the corners of your windshield or the edges of someone’s thick glasses like myself. Sometimes the outline of the face will become sort of indented within the face through the glass. Anyway, all this aside, I think the main problem with the face lies in the glasses themselves. Not the face. The face may have some minor problems but nothing in need of correction to prove it's validity. The glasses are actually disproportionate and uneven. It doesn't matter what you say, or what the image looked like, or if the guy's glasses really were created by a 400 pound ogre at lens crafter with only 3 huge big frank ball park hot dogs on each hand for fingers, making them ultimately fucked up in real life. If you turned the portrait to face us the glasses would not be symmetrical, and I think that's where your main problem with the face is.

Don't worry about changing it this time, it's already done and over, but keep it in mind for the next time. Over all I think you're on a good roll. There are some minor facial anatomy issues, but those small quirks will be worked out with time. Keep up the good work.

[Soupy]

Cool man thx for the reply! but you're saying that it doesnt matter that his glasses truly were f'd up....cause they were. He bent the shit outta em.

[one2hit]

it doesn't matter because the viewer doesn't know that information by looking at your image. We all see it and say "whoa those glasses are disproportional" we don't say "well...maybe his reference had totally non-symmetrical shitty glasses" That image doesn't even look like his glasses are messed up, it looks like they were just drawn bad, and that's my point. It would be easier for you to draw correct glasses that are in good shape, than to draw messed up glasses that actually convey to the viewer that they were askewed in real life in the first place, and not on your drawing pad. Catch mah drift? Keep working guy, art needs time to mature, and mature it will, with great effort.

[GriNGo]

if you drew through glasses, then you should've drawn something for the viewers to have an idea that the portrait is seen through that glasses. In other terms. You should've drawn your view of the glasses :bashful:

otherwise than that, your stuff is great man :)

Your latest portrait looks nice, how long did you take to draw it?

Greetings!
GRiNGoLoCO