master drawings

[omarpac]

hello all
here are some master drawings i ve done hoping that i will improve
:nohope:
burne hogarth
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/omarpac/burnehand.jpg
leonardo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/omarpac/leonardodavinci.jpg
david hockne
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/omarpac/davidhockne.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/omarpac/michaelangelo.jpg

[Leopoldo]

Keep it up!

1 or 2 hours a day and in a year or seven you'll be rock'in!

I mean that in a good way :^^:

/L

[mogando25]

....in a year or seven...

My figure drawing teacher said to me, "oh don't worry kid, you'll be great in not time 30, 50 years... ;)

Just keep practising, because copying masters a couple times won't immediately make you an amazing draftsperson.

[omarpac]

thanks for the advice :^^:

[sylver]

the thumb....on the first one....what.the.fuck.


anyways, looks like you're coming along nicely. the mouth on the second one is odd.

[omarpac]

thanks sylver for ur post

[jrwells]

More important than just doing drawing off masters drawings is to try to understand why they were drawn that way. What did the masters know about the suject material and why did they draw them the way they did. The form of the body, the way the light hits and moves acoss, the battle between the light and the shadow over the surface and whatnot. You seem to be grapsing some of the important concepts, you have established nice form in a few of the drawing, and I dig the fact that your stroke is following the body instead of just outlining and coloring it in. Keep up the good work and think about what it is that you are doing, and what they must have gone through to make what they did.

[omarpac]

thank u jrwells for clearing it up for me :D

[mentler]

Great practice ~ much better than photos ~ by the way Burne Hogarth is not a master should not be close to Leo or Mike and the real masters.

[GriNGo]

hey man, I think you should work on some gestures a bit more. Copying off the masters wont help you out much at this point.. maybe it will even confuse you. Work on 3d volumes, because your images look kinda flat, at least the first 3 images. Shading isnt enough to say the image has volume. I dont know how David Hockney's original drawing looks like, but those proportions are wrong. Stick to gestures man and work your way up. I swear it will help you alot.

And by the way, Burne Hogarth IS a master. like it or not. a modern day one at that :P

Greetings!
GriNGoLoCo

[omarpac]

hey grin
u are right in what u said
am havin trouble drawin in 3d man
any help tell me what shud i practice?
thanks for da advice man

[GriNGo]

Well, I would suggest the following: quick gesture drawings, which will show the movement of your drawing subject, simple lines. Check out the examples in this thread: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30208

For 3d stuff, I suggest you begin with simple objects like boxes and cones, and spheres and cylinders. Most of these objects when put together in a certain order will help you define how the volumes in the human body look. In fact most of the complex shapes you can see everywhere are just a sum of a bunch of the basic figures. So go and draw them the most you can! Remember... shading doesnt necesarily help you define if something is 3d or not. So try to make an object look 3d without shadows. It sounds hard but once you get it will help you alot.

later,
GriNGoLoCo!

[omarpac]

thanx grin
so i shudent outline any subject am drawing i shud draw around the form
right
and about boxes and cyilnders i shud use line quality?

[Mercer]

Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters
Robert Beverly Hale
-100 great drawings analyzed/figure drawing fundamentals defined
271pages of a great read :wink:

[mentler]

I have read all the Bob Hale books at least ten times as well as attending a couple of his lectures at ASL they are bibles in terms of basic drawing and anatomical information. "Drawing Lessons" in excellent primer for basic drawing ~ "Master Class In Figure Drawing" excellent anatomy overview.
"Anatomy Lessons of the Great Masters" is very weak compared to the other 2 it was done by Terrance Coyle in Hale's name but is very hard to follow. You have to read the copy and read it more than once (you can't just look at the pictures)
Burne Hogarth was also an excellent teacher and I have his books as well.
However there is not as much useful information and the drawings should only be used as illustrations of the copy points he is trying to make.
Do not waste your time copying Hogarths drawings.
If you want to copy drawings do what he did copy a real master like Michelangelo or Leonardo>

[kgb]

Burne Hogarth was also an excellent teacher and I have his books as well.
However there is not as much useful information and the drawings should only be used as illustrations of the copy points he is trying to make.
Do not waste your time copying Hogarths drawings.
If you want to copy drawings do what he did copy a real master like Michelangelo or Leonardo>

I so agree with you. People love to say don't buy any Hogarth's books and ignore how much knowledge he has. His books are excellent but not to draw from only for looking and confirming what he is trying to say.

[omarpac]

thanx for da advice
i just like the way he used line to express forms
and i was just usin it as an exercise
but he's book helped me a looooooooooooooooooooooooooot