drawing industrial design type thingies

[keyth]

what's a good way to learn drawing industrial design type thingies if you aren't in school? i can wing it sometimes but it takes me a while. and i'm trying to work on speed.

any quick tips would be appreciated. and i'm talking about rules of the trade, not necessarily "well go out and draw industrial type thingies"...i know that:p

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[davi]

perspective:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471292311/qid=1042232857/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_3/102-9026841-1236919?v=glance&s=books&n=507846


machines and cars: http://cardesignnews.com/
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=industrial+piping

look at things like moters and such.
what are you really looking to do?

Vechicles, robots, building, space ships?
the more you tell us the more we can help.

[keyth]

thanks davi!

well i kinda dropped this thread in here during a state of frustration. i was trying to draw some futuristic armor type stuff on a character and was having trouble...so i dropped this in to see what would happen.:p