"red faced discussion regarding changes to conceptart"

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Ban me!

[Red_Rook]

wtf is this? Dont waste space dude.

[dfacto]

err...

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[Jens]

about middle class right?

[davi]

how does this have to do with jason at all?

this was thought up by me and donkeyslayer.

we felt it would be better to lead artists on a path more 'business' related. If no professional was leading the middle class then it is just like 'the blind leading the blind' as another member stated.

The forum obviously needed an overhall, so me and donkeyslayer brought one.

Don't get your panties in a bunch because we'd like to see the forum go else-where.

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Well the word maniac and Jason ... that fits.
He's the one who keeps writing "time was wasted that could have been used to help people" when he bans people.
After writing 3 times that people should look up "Bouguereau" at Artrenewal to improve as artists.

And sparth doesn't have time to sent a standard PM to people who's threads are moved.
He could help beginners in that time. He actually wrote stuff like "work on the textures" 3 times.

People who write replies and actually try to help are called sillypants and looked down apon if they say something wrong.

The admins don't have to help! Fine! But they are phony like hell.

I didn't complain. I tried to help. I invested a lot of time in creating a new foundation for the Middle Class after the founders asked me to take over.

Davi ... gave me moderator rights. Watched how I invested hours. KNEW what I was up to.
Donkeyslayer wrote that they'd start something as an activity in the Middle Class.
And both watched how I wasted my time ... A LOT OF IT ... must have been entertaining.
Mentioning that they had other plans for the Middle Class would have spoiled the fun.

It is so easy for admins to make others look stupid.
Sometimes simply not writing a reply is enough.
Kudos ... you guys do a great job there.

Why overwrite the middle class? Now there is nothing about the foundations any more.
About the blind leading the blind ... that is just stupid. The resources in the middle class are stuff that professionals came up with.

Another fun activity by Davi. Hey ... if it was an additional forum ... maybe people would start asking why there is ANOTHER fun activity.
Like all the others ... too difficult for beginers.
Write here again that CA is a good place for beginners and I'll die laughing.
The comments in the Helpful Critiques section are one huge joke.

Still not enough reasons to ban me? I'll try to think of something ...

[Crash]

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[davi]

well dude, i guess i didn't catch you posting your plans for middle class, i appologize, all i knew was me and donkey thought up a decent idea for it.

and i thought the middle class wasn't for straight up 'begginers', i thought it was intended for artists with a mildy mature level that whiched to get closer to a professional standard, which i think this will help accomplish.

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Monkey ... you gave me moderator rights in the ADMIN PANEL.

The middle class was for beginners.
Looking at what you were about to kill before you pulled the plug would have been nice.

[davi]

yes and i gave donkeyslayer moderation weeks ago aswell, he came up with an idea and we rolled with it for awhile.

as i said, i appologize for leaving you out of the loop.

[Jason Manley]

we need to merge the middle class with the critiques forum in a way that is clear to everyone.

I do not want us to sweep aside the foundations. I do think that it would be great to have a game designed here on the site, however it cant come at the expense of the foundation stuff.

please bear with us as experiments are made in order to get this right.

There is a thread about the reorganization of ca in the lounge. that is the place to discuss things so we can all think and plan the growth of the site together. sometimes changes will happen for the better..sometimes not. the more input we have the better it will be.


signature, I help as much as I can here. I am not going to ban you because you care to much about this place. I would suggest participating in the new thread about reorganizing ca that FIPSE started today. Your opinion is of value...as is your participation.

However, I would appreciate a little more tact in your discussions...especially when related to the people who built this place. respect a bit ok? please? Sparth is one of the reasons we have ca...as are all the contributions no matter small or large which are made by the busy professionals here on CA.

Let's try to have a decent discussion on how we can incorporate all the changes in Fipse thread for improvements...to make it easy, I will sticky it.


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[Silently Roaring]

I've just got a question is the middle class still taking members? If so do I just need to fill out a member sheet thing? If I do join will I have to participate in all middleclass activities or only ones I want to?

SOOO confused :nohope:

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The activity that davi started (Middle Class design studio) is taking members.
There is always only one current activity afaik.
The old Middle Class is buried in a sub folder. Something new will be created ...
as Jason said.

There is a sticky thread by Fipse with more details.

[Silently Roaring]

Thanks! Good to hear! :^^: