Painter 7 & wacom newbee

[AmadorL]

I desperately need help; I just got painter 7 and an Intous 1 Wacom 6x8 need to know where to begin. I am fairly need to both and have no idea where to begin can some one please help me or direct me in the right direction

Thanks
Amaador
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[Deth Jester]

Well, I am not sure what you mean by help... there are millions of possibilities.. you need to be a little more accurate..

I think if you are unfamiliar with painting in general, you should put your wacom down, and go take some art classes.. go get a few sketch books and start sketching..

but if you can draw and such.. and just need help learning the software, you can go to the top button "HELP" and click on tutorials, and that will help you out..

I also suggest you just start trying to figure out the software by yourself.. experimenting and time is the key.. Its better to learn it on your own..

if you read through this forum there is tons of info..

good luck, and if you have specific questions don't hesitate to ask.

peace

[Jin]

In addition to what's already been mentioned, take a look at the following threads and read my posts (along with the other posts):

help for a painter 6 newb!!! (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2289)

In the following thread, read the part of my message below the Painter 6.1 installation steps, that explains how to work with Painter's blending and smearing variants, and gives alternative methods to avoid white edges around brush strokes when using these brush variants on a Layer. This information applies to both Painter 6 and Painter 7:

quick ? about painter 6 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1784)

The following thread will give you some tips to keep Painter 7 running smoothly:

Painter 7 acting sluggish (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2463)

Then spend some time at PixelAlley (http://www.pixelalley.com/pixelalley-sections-pages.html) where you'll find lots of tutorials useable in Painter 7, especially in the section accessed by clicking the top left link and in the Painter 7 Tutorials section linked on the right side of the page, along with other useful Painter 7 information and PDF and custom brush downloads in other sections.

In the Painter 7 User Guide, read Chapter 4 Painting.

Inside Painter 7, study the Brush Controls palette sections and their controls. To do this, open a large white Canvas and begin painting with one brush variant after another, adjusting Brush Controls settings to see what happens. In combination with reading Chapter 4 Painting, you'll slowly begin to understand Painter brushes and also have a great time in the process.

NOTE: Remember, to restore your brush variant to its default settings, go to the Brushes palette's Variant menu and choose Restore Default Variant (hold down the Alt/Option key and use Restore Default Variant to return all brush variants in the currently loaded brush library to their default state).


Take a Deep Breath, and Have Fun!

[AmadorL]

Thanks Jester, I have taken painting and art classes so I am not new at that. The software part is where I need the help I have bought a book (painter 7 wow's) I thing. I am still waiting for it to arrive. I will use the help and tutorials to see what happen.

Jin would the treads for painter 6 still apply from those of 7. Did the interfaces change drastically? I will defiantly spend time @ pixelally.

What about tips for using painter 7 with the Wacom, is the tutorials for setting up whatever it is that you set up?

Thanks a million for you feedback.

Amador
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[Jin]

Originally posted by AmadorL
Thanks Jester, I have taken painting and art classes so I am not new at that. The software part is where I need the help I have bought a book (painter 7 wow's) I thing. I am still waiting for it to arrive. I will use the help and tutorials to see what happen.

Jin would the treads for painter 6 still apply from those of 7. Did the interfaces change drastically? I will defiantly spend time @ pixelally.

What about tips for using painter 7 with the Wacom, is the tutorials for setting up whatever it is that you set up?

Thanks a million for you feedback.

Amador

Amador,

If you're talking about threads here at ConceptArt (or anywhere,
really), I can't say what parts of them will apply to both Painter 6 and
Painter 7. Some basic things probably will, and many won't as Painter 7
has a lot of new improvements, including the new Painter 7 Water Color
(all new technology), and two other new brush categories: Liquid Ink and
Tinting (Tinting was introduced with the Painter 7 Update so you'll need
to install it if it wasn't already included in your software). Both
Painter 7 Water Color and Liquid Ink brushes work only on their own
Layer types, Water Color Layers and Liquid Ink Layers. Tinting brush
variants can be used on the Canvas and on default (regular) Layers.

In my messages, I try to note which version I'm talking about, but don't
always remember to do that as the person I'm responding to has usually
stated which version they're using.

To get an idea of the Painter 6 vs. Painter 7 Interface (also Painter 5
if you're curious), take a look at these pages. There are sets of two
pages each for Painter 5, Painter 6, and Painter 7 with links at the
bottom of each page to go to the other two versions' two page sets. On
the first page of any of the two page sets, click the Next button at the
bottom of the page to go to the second page of the set. Be sure you're
looking at, and reading, information for the appropriate version. You'll
see which version the info applies to in the title at the top of each
page. The following link goes to page 1 for the Painter 7 set of pages:

http://www.pixelalley.com/painterforum-indepth/Ptr7-scrnprt-pg1.html

In the pages linked above, be sure to note the keystroke commands to
toggle the palettes off and on as that's a great help. In case this is
not included in that information, the Art Materials, Objects, and Brush
Controls palettes can be fully expanded or fully contracted by holding
down the Shift key and clicking any of the small right pointing
triangles to the left of the sections' name bars.

The Painter 6 and Painter 7 interfaces are very much the same with a few
exceptions. That is, we have the option to choose which sections are
displayed in the Art Materials, Objects, and Brush Controls palettes.
This can also help to minimize palette space and leave more room to
work. We can now right click to bring up contextual menus. Text is now
handled using the Text tool and the Objects palette's Text section.
There's no doubt more, but those are the things that come to mind at the
moment.

One huge difference is that Painter 7 brushes are .XML files and can be
shared across platforms. This has given rise to all kinds of wonderful
experimenting and great custom brush collections available to download
in several, of not many, locations on the Web. "sandman", who posts
here, is someone I've come to refer to as "our brush master". He's
created loads of great brushes and makes them available to download from
his site. He also has contributed greatly by converting earlier Painter
version brushes from Mac to PC and vice versa. Since we can Import
earlier Painter version brush libraries into Painter 7, once that
platform conversion has been done, we're in business.

Painter 7 brushes, because they are .XML files, are managed in your file
manager, in folders below the Painter 7 > Brushes folder that contains
all Painter 7 brush libraries.

You can see a text "diagram" and read about Painter 7 brushes on this
page at PixelAlley, to get an idea of how to manage them:

http://www.pixelalley.com/Painter7/water-color-brushes-QandA.html

The explanations were written to help people when they download custom
Painter 7 Water Color brushes from the previous page at PixelAlley:

http://www.pixelalley.com/Painter7/painter7-water-color-brushes.html

Other sites where you can read reviews of Painter 7, along with screen
shots, are:

http://www.computerarts.co.uk/news/painter7/

http://www.computerarts.co.uk/news/story.asp?newsFeature=30207

I'm glad to hear you plan to spend some time at PixelAlley. You'll find
lots of Painter 7 tutorials and other useful information there,
available for individual use, so enjoy it. After you are more used to
Painter 7, and if you're not already a Painter 6 user, you'll find lots
of Painter 6 tutorials that can be easily translated for use in Painter
7.

About using the Wacom tablet, as it relates to Painter 7: Other than
reading whatever documentation Wacom provides, and generally getting the
feel of working with a pen (or stylus) and tablet, the best way to learn
how to use your pen in Painter is to read the Painter 7 User Guide,
Chapter 4 Painting, then open a big white Canvas and begin testing brush
variants. I'd recommend trying each of them (there are a lot!) in their
default state first. Make notes of ones you especially like.

Then open a new Canvas and do some experimenting with settings in the
Brush Controls palette and Art Materials palette Papers section. Painter
brushes for which the Method name includes the word "Grainy" interact
with Paper texture and you can control the Paper's Scale, Contrast,
Brightness, and whether it paints on the high or low areas of the
texture by checking or unchecking the Invert box. The brush variant's
Method is found in the Brush Controls palette's General section where
the most basic settings for any brush variant are located (and/or
adjusted by the user).

Before getting too far into using Painter 7 "Grainy" brushes with Papers,
read Jeremy Sutton's tutorial "Brushes React Differently to Paper Texture
in Painter 7" as it offers a good solution:

http://www.pixelalley.com/tutorials/painter7-tutorials.html

There's much to tell about Painter 7, but you'll need to get into it
then learn what specific questions to ask. It's going to be a lot of fun!