Woman and horse...

[ohGr]

After reading the 'new rules', I'm not even sure if I qualify to post here. The more I come here the more I'm discouraged. I don't even know if I want to start school in October after being so shut down by the incredible artwork that is posted here and how I've heard that game companies get to choose the best artists that walk into the door. I consider myself absolutely out of my league even attempting to get into this field even though I know I have the visions and sentiment.

Anyways I think you'll all have a field day critiquing these two drawings. References were used for both and I'm not happy with either. In particular, I still struggle with human faces which you can see on the woman. As I posted in my thread 'Tortillons and line' in 'Life Drawing', I used tortillons here and it shows off some good feats and some bad.

Anyway, give me your opinions.


http://www.inalonelyplace.com/images/Shrunk.jpg


http://www.inalonelyplace.com/images/Shrunk2.jpg

[kyliegirl]

the shading on the womans rib cage and around her knees is superb. yes you do need practise on human faces. but i cant talk i need practise with humans too.

your horse is nice, though the legs too short and the elbow and shoulders at the front of the horse dont look right. the shading around the head and rump dont seem to match the shading on its belly and shoulder and the eye is set more on its forehead than where its sposed to be. the tail looks placed on it doesnt really look like its actually coming out of the horse but is taped on it.. the legs dont seem to look like they have correct muscles. and the knees could do a little work.


just friendly crits. i cant give much critisism on the human because i do not study their anatomy. but i do study the anatomy of a horse, thus why i can pick out more faults.

dont worry about if your good enough or not. I am a learner just like you. instead of looking yourself down, try your hardest to go further up. you wont get anywhere if you always sit at the back and avoid trying. you need to get up and try your best, no matter who is better than you. you should be more inspired to try harder when you see better pictures then to try less.. if you want to be as good as the other artists, you have to focus and keep trying.

hope this helps :)

[ohGr]

That was my first attempt at a horse and the use of different softness of pencils. Since then I've discovered the concept of keying drawings to a certain level and to only use a select number of softness to avoid the outcome of the inaccurate darks of the horse's coat.

[Helzon]

After reading the 'new rules', I'm not even sure if I qualify to post here. The more I come here the more I'm discouraged. I don't even know if I want to start school in October after being so shut down by the incredible artwork that is posted here and how I've heard that game companies get to choose the best artists that walk into the door. I consider myself absolutely out of my league even attempting to get into this field even though I know I have the visions and sentiment.

I don't want to sound condescending or patronizing for that matter, but I know how you feel, you aren't alone by any means. These boards and some people's personal websites are the most intimidating I have ever encountered. The quality of work here is frighteningly incredible. Which in turn leads to thoughts of one's own personal ability, and suddenly things you thought were triumphs are suddenly not so triumphant after all. And you cast a jaundiced eye over the rest of your work. Dude all these thoughts and more race through many peoples' minds.
However, you yourself said that you have the visions and the sentiment, if that includes your passion for the craft then starting school in October is an easy decision. GO!!! From what I see here you have a good start, yes there is room for improvement, this field is a constant learning experience. If you polled the pros no doubt they would look at their work and not be 100% satisfied with what they did, while others goggle in disbelief.
It's a hard slogging battle to crush the self doubt and sit down and stare at the blank page and begin to fill it with what you see in your mind's eye. It might take time, but in the end that is the road we all have to travel to master the craft. The only other piece of advice i have is to be humble, to listen to other people's criticism and not be disheartened by it, nor overly inflated because of it. Someone very wise once said: "There is always someone better at it than you and someone that is worse." Just keep hacking away and you will be the one walking through the door to the game companies. Sincerely, Best of luck!

[eigam]

Hey,
Just here to chime in my 2 cents. Like Helzon said go to school. Art is mostly allot of practice. Just draw, draw and draw some more. Ask any of the really great illustrators here or anywhere else and they will tell you to practice, practice. You have the basic skills, now just sharpen them up, keep drawing and don't give up.

[inspector Lee]

ohGr,
don't be discouraged. Everyone, even the best guys on these forums, started out just like you. You shouldn't compare yourself to others, you'll drive yourself crazy (even those of us who make a living at it can see a lot of artwork that could make you feel inadequate.) Become your own competition, and work to be better tomorrow than you are today. Look to the best artists for inspiration rather than competition.

[Kanga]

Yeah all good advice.

Someone with medium talent and lots of fight will win over a lazy talented person everytime. However the world is full of extremely talented artists that work their beehinds off :wink: . Don't worry there is room for more!

Rule one/ Never, never feel sorry for yourself,... get in the ring.

There is stuff you can do even outside school.
Find a way to do as much livedrawing as you can.
Read as much as you can find.
When you see artwork and think: 'WOW' go one step further and ask yourself why this is, what do you like and dislike, what could the reason be for this?
During your intensive learning process take time out to make something you really enjoy, just for the hell of it, this keeps the fun factor in.

Hold a pencil often, and hold it with your mind.

Greetings Kanga