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Milho
January 5th, 2003, 05:47 PM
Well every single character I produce sucks in a way so i sat down and started reading loomis figure drawing.
In this thread i'll show the stuff i copy from it or do for it as a task.

Of course i don't want to keep copying him but it is a good start and i keep drawing his stuff until I feel save with the proportions.

Here the first try of copying page 26 "IDEAL PROPORTION MALE"
Please forgive me the scrawls but i used a 6b for the left poses :rolleyes:

http://www.milho.de/loomis/p26_1.jpg

EDIT: :bash: Damn the arms are off in the middle one...haven't seen this. Well i have to do better in the next

Copying was really a a pain. Very stagnant procedure. This shows how bad i am. Well i'll keep doing this proportion stuff few times more.

You don't need to comment right now because it's a bad copy of someones work. As soon as i got more stuff it would help if you notice some changes or even improves.

And maybe you want to join. This kind of practice can't hurt

Cheers
Milho

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LightBrownboy
January 5th, 2003, 09:49 PM
Actually, Loomis is a really good way to go for now. Life drawing is always the best to go to train your eye, but as my teachers say....use the eye of other artists to help develop yours. Good start and keep going with these. I too am studying Loomis so keep going with it. Try using a B pencil.

Good luck!

Sadclown
January 5th, 2003, 10:59 PM
Good start, the only thing I'd say is that the heads are just a tad too big for the bodies and the middle arms are a bit off. But keep going!

Oh and definitely use a lighter grade pencil when laying down sketches. Everybody makes mistakes and trying to erase something as dark as a 6B is a bitch. I personally use an H if I have a good idea of what I'm drawing, and even lighter if I'm just playing with ideas. Like LightBrownboy said, a B is fine too.

psot some more so we can see your progress.

Milho
January 6th, 2003, 03:53 PM
Ok here's a new one.
Actually i planed to finish some more of these today but i had no time like usually.

It's a bit better i think. This time i've checked the arms ;)
The process was a bit faster, knowing what to look at but it's stil a looking and copying. I don't really know what i'm doing. So i have to do way more of these to learn the information of proportions.
The proportions are still a bit off. Well like i said im focused to much at the guides and reference. So I'll keep it up.
The size of the head is a bit better, but still not good. Another problem is that my reference is bigger than the format i draw in. Thats also why my stuff looks wider than the original. I plan to take a look at it next time.

http://www.milho.de/loomis/p26_2.jpg

Loomis says that the Nipples are one head away from each other. Drawing a line frome Navel to nipple gives the size of the shoulders. But if his drawing the nipples have a greater distance than the head. so i did this too. At his Pic it looks good *g*
Well i have the same size of shoulders in my pic but loomis ref is one head bigger (in relation to the side)

And as you can see i used a B Pencil this time....

Cheers
:chug:

Hm...no DrPepper left :(

Milho
January 6th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Ok i couldn't go to bed without this one.
I wanted to know where I am, so i made this WITHOUT REFERENCE (to be honest i took 3 quick glances)

This is the result:
http://www.milho.de/loomis/p26_3.jpg

The head is a bit big. But it's not bad, not good either but considering how it would look without the practise you can believe me it's pretty good. At least the proportions are usable (except the head).

Well I'll try the other views tommorow. That's a good practise. I'll try to make the reference draw and after it some without reference. I'll also try to have the reference everywhere i go and practise or if not to construct without reference...this should work. Improvement, I'm coooming!!!!

:)

Milho

Madman!
January 6th, 2003, 05:23 PM
I wasn't sure if I should post or not but I figure if something I say can help then I should.

I think loomis is a great book for learning. what your doing looks like what I was doing a couple months ago(I too am studying this book). It looks like your setting up the drawing well and getting the perportions right, but then just finishing the drawing in loomis style stright to a finished line. I don't know if you are going in order from the front of the book to the end. I would go to the parts on constructing each body part first like how to construct the head, hands, and so on then come back and do this. Then you wont be drawing in that 1950 ad illustration style, but even if you want that style it probably would make it easier to accomplish than trying to finish the drawing without using guidlines on the body parts. I mean maybe you are, but I can't really see the lines just a finished line.

stay with it cause I thought I would never get better and I'm now looking at my artwork from like a year ago and I have improved tons and its all from that book mostly.

Milho
January 7th, 2003, 07:44 AM
Thanks for your Advise Madman!

Actually i have lot guide lines but like you said they are not visible because of the scan.
I really try not to copy Loomis Style, I guess that would not be possible this easy anyway. That's why I try to do the drawing again without his references.

Yes I am reading the book and doing the tasks chronologically. It sure can be that some things may be discussed later easier or in detail but I really hard try to stay at the books structure.
It is not that I am fixed at it, but it's also a question of patience. I am very impatient and that can be a pain when drawing. So repeating the drawings and following the book is a little challenge for me.
Afterwards it won't make a difference. When you know the basics you can make your own think. But I want to go through the book as a complete beginner, just doing what it says.

Thanks you for motivating.

Fun and improvemt to you ;)
Milho

SinisteR
January 9th, 2003, 03:15 PM
I think they uploaded the most important pages of this book on www.fineart.sk, very nice guide. Hi, i`m a new guy btw, i`m trying to draw some faces and learn anatomy and stuff, and fineart is a nice source.

ODIN SIX
January 9th, 2003, 04:18 PM
Be sure when you are doing figure turns that your lines are striaght and parallel..
Use a t sqaure and something that has a striaght edge..
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