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Joey-b
July 16th, 2004, 02:49 PM
some stuff i finished
things i do like
http://img39.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joeyb/mushrooms.jpg
http://img39.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joeyb/eotw.jpg
things i dont like
http://img39.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joeyb/aetb.jpg
http://img39.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joeyb/hond.jpg

yeah i know.. maybe u dont like m all.. :).. c&c preciated specially on the mushroom one

chozometroid
July 16th, 2004, 04:14 PM
The top two are very creative.
As far as the first, I really can't say much yet. It's a smooth, clean design, but unfinished. It's hard to judge with all the hard outlines and no shading. The depth isn't there. I'm assuming the mushroom kingdom thing is supposed to be very far off, with our view being form this rocky ledge?
Everything at that distance looks way too close. The reason for this is the lack of color/shading, but much more importantly, the fact that the outline of those objects is actually thicker(!) than that of the stuff closer in view. This is very strange.

The second pic has some nice colors to it. I love the moon and clouds. What seems weird is how the "background" is faded pink a bit, but it really doesn't seem very far away from the foreground, which has a completely different look to it. There is also some glow area in the lava crack to the right, which is actually covering part of the background as well. It also needs to fade more gradually in the dark area up front.

The dog seems good. The only thing I can say, since it's obvious you were going for a certain style, is that the lines in the ear are too stringy and stand out a lot compared to the other parts of the drawing.

Just my two cents. You work is good. Make some small adjustments and you will be even better.

Joey-b
July 16th, 2004, 05:19 PM
wow.. ur 2 cents are worth a miljion 2 me!.. great advise thx preciate it allot.. ill keep it in mind for the next things ill do

el coro
July 16th, 2004, 11:02 PM
there is a nice feel to the linework on the first one, although as already stated it could use some shading just to flesh it out a bit.but those crystals are killing me. the shapes are just a tad too cartoony for my taste, and stand out on the piece too much, shape wise. the second one...well, grayscale it and see how your values are reading. its not the colors that are killing it, its the value. i'd suggest saving a variation of it, ghrayscaling it, working the shit out of it until it reads better, then drop you original back on top as a color layer. give it a shot.
hope this helps a bit.-c36

Jonny
July 16th, 2004, 11:44 PM
One thing that I think will definitely help your enviro pieces are to try building them out in a perspective grid. There are a lot of helpful perspective books out there that can help with this. Another thing that would help the lava piece is to introduce a foreground so that the viewer feels more inside the piece as well as break up the empty space at the bottom of the painting. The lava piece has some nice colors. I like the mood.

Jason Manley
July 17th, 2004, 05:11 AM
just a thought from seeing the stuff....your objects in your linear scene look pasted on...if you incorporate them into the environment a bit you will get them to sit in the space better. what i mean is...perhaps some grass details at their bases..or some rocks...or some ideas which would be supportive of your scene and add more interest to the content...used in a way which makes your individual pieces of the image seem more integrated into the scene.

look up Arthur Rackham ...do you know his works? you really should spend some time with that guys stuff. He is right up your alley. great stuff.


J

Joey-b
July 17th, 2004, 09:46 AM
el coro -
eey thats a great idea.. with the grayscaling and stuff thx !
and the shading.. yeah i did shade it.. but not to hard.. cause i wanted to color it maybe.. and my scanner isnt that good.. so all was lost.. well atleast allot..
as for the cartoony part.. well that kinda was my intention so ill take that as a compliment haha.. nah but ur right.. they stand out to much.. maybe i should have done some transperency in m..

jonny -
yeah i know what u mean by perspective.. but do ya have any idea where i can find some decent books.. cause i have one.. its like 10 pages.. and it cost me 'bout 30 $ (25 euro XD)

jason manley-
yeah i always have that prob.. time for me to really start workin on that..
and the guy u mention.. ill go look that up on the inet.. thx for tellin me


as for now.. just this
mushroom kingdom.. in full color(i accidently posted in earlier version in the finished section.. i thought this thread was removed.. couldnt find it no more :S..but there's a new part to the forum :))
http://img39.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joeyb/mushroom_color2.jpg
i tried to color it a bit cartoony.. some cel shading and normal.. hope it worked out okey.. C&C mot welcome

Signature
July 17th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Amazing line quality and composition. Good color choices in the latest one.
I too think the perspective is the biggest problem.

Especially things that are above the horizon are not drawn correctly.
The mushroom thingies might just not be quite straight, but the roofs of the castle have the same problem.
They should be viewed from below.

There is the book "Successful Drawing" at fineart.sk
It has a section "Perspective the artist should know".
Probably worth checking out:
Link (http://fineart.sk/index.php?s=16&cat=15)

Joey-b
July 17th, 2004, 12:03 PM
thx for the link man!... ill go check that out..

as for now.. here's another one to keep u warm :)..
mushroom hut.. containing: more shades
http://img39.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joeyb/Mushroom_hutbw.jpg