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January 1st, 2003, 09:30 AM
Just when you think you had enough from doing self portraits, you find out that you haven't even begun.
It's a wonderful experience and I congrat myself in days like this (when my SP is SO crappy that i have to use all kind of filters to pull it up or to make more then one) that i haven't quit... not a day
To you Andrew and to ALL how have ever tried this: THANK YOU!
Self Portrait No. 161 (is this sick or what)
(pen&paper - scan - nervous brake down - wacom crash - calm down - a little work - great respect for you people)
To Keyth - :D ha.. gotcha' :bash: :D
January 1st, 2003, 09:39 PM
Back to the gridstone again and happy new year :). 1:45 and work tommorow :/
January 1st, 2003, 10:08 PM
did this one in painter with the pastels.
oblio: very very loose, i like it! its great that there aren't many lines and its very loose, but it still totally looks like you! nice job
lionel: sweet lighting and i love the reflection in the glasses, really well done!
blackhawk: i had been meaning to ask you about your Dec16 painting. what brush was that you used? i've been tryin to get that look, but don't know how. my initial assumption is that maybe you went with pastels or captured bristle then used one of those depth rakes? is that right?
January 2nd, 2003, 09:24 AM
Like Oblio says...less talk more art. Time (after the holidays) for me to get back down to business.
January 2nd, 2003, 02:46 PM
the most difficult one is the one directly after one you really like ...
here it is anyway, the arm does not belong to me
here too are some quotes from Mr Loomis that I should have payed attention to.
Do not pet in your line, draw it cleanly with long sweep.
Do not shade with a mutitude of little pecky strokes
and so on
ZippZopp, the diagonals in the background work well with the angle of the head. I see some non-muddy colours as well e.g. at the mouth corners, I like it.
Lionel, the break has done you the world of good, way to go on the glasses
Oblio, at least your pen and paper didn't crash. the features seem accurately placed
January 2nd, 2003, 05:55 PM
no.. Mia.. the features are wrong too - my right eye (left in the pic) is too far in the back - the nose should be rotated etc - i've made another *fixed* version but i'm not posting it. One crap is enough.
Here a new one! Value crap - you can spot perspective problems here too - the mouth goes one way.. the eye line is twisted a bit - chin also need some corection - also made some tweaks to it after i've pressed CTRL-S - i've fixed it then i've got so angry and frustrated and did not save it (punishing myself :bash: )
Mia - Symetry - your eyes are not on the same level - this is an easy one to spot - draw some paralel lines. Comme on - pay a bit of attention. Mouth seems also a bit large - but as a general feeling.. it looks like you have payed more attention to proportions. GOOD WORK! I realy like the nose - for me - the nose is very dificult!
MCM - talking art is GOOD too friend.
ZippZopp - love that angle. a bit too saturated i think - minor problems here and there - eyes, nose :D
Lionel - I love that shadow (eye-glases). So.. what's up? Enough drawing? Back to painting or is just one to regain the confidence? :p
January 2nd, 2003, 06:43 PM
i went with the impasto today, not realizing that upon resizing it would look like crap. so here it is resized down along with a detail at full rez.
oblio: yeah, looking back on my last one there are a few small errors. i like the roughness of your lastest...looks good
miasmak: i know exactly what you're talking about! tryin to do another potraiit after a really good one is tough. i like this one though, i think the composition is good, not being centered gives it a nice feel! good job
mindcandy: looks good from memory! surprisingly, they are actually a little easier than one migh think
January 2nd, 2003, 07:46 PM
ZippZopp: You have taken a step foward with thouse last few. Rember that color is your friend. It will give you depth and shape. Thry playing around with different hues. Add some more blue and watch as shapes seem to fall away add some yellow watch them lift up again add some green and watch them fall away again. Look long and hard at an later lucian freud (after his smooth phase) see what each color does to the picture. don't be afaris to paint a lumpy sp lerning what colors do to form is the important thing :)
MindCandyMan: Try doing a drawing where you do not draw a single line only shade patches of shade. Alow yourself a few guilding lines and then try and see where the patches of shade are on a face NOT where you think they are plus make sure you draw reasnoble big :)
miasmak: Thry constructing a face from connecting lines to put boxes round the face. If you only alow yourself one stroke for each line and you keep your lines long you will avoid the problems that Loomis speaks of.
Oblio: looks you went straight into the detail rather than constructing you face first (Which is what I do every damm time and I can't kick the habit :/) get the shapes blocked in first or have a nice acurate line drawing or you will be putting details onto features that will be in the wrong place.
Still trying to work on the lines :). Sorry if its a little boring but I just keep hammering away at things till I get them right (well at least to a reasnoble standard)
January 2nd, 2003, 08:46 PM
This is happy 100. I finally hit the century mark, the 90's were kind of slow :D I had some nose and mouth issues on this one.
Oblio - Hey bud, nice work. First one, as you have pointed out, has issues with that eye receeding back too much. The second one is looking good, try to smooth out the value a bit though. Get that second eye in there :D It's always easy doing one eye in an SP, two eyes is the better challenge. Keep it up bud.
Lionel - These two are great. The first one has very nice reflections off of the glasses. The second one is a lot cleaner, you may have messed up on the nose form though, but I'm getting a better sense of the form in your face on this one. Nicely done :)
ZippZopp - On your brush question, honestly, I can't remember, I know it was one of the paint brushes with a lot of impasto and it turned out like crap :p I like the experimentation going on here, the weird golds in the second one are bugging me though. Looks like you had a loose booger on your nose. Your improving though, keep on working at it. How is your graduate school portfolio stuff coming along?
Mia - Eyes are out of alignment on this one. One is higher than the other :) Listen to Oblio, he can be meaner than me :D Kidding Oblio.
MCM - Welcome back bud, now let's see you getting started again, we all will be expecting a lot from you :)
Have a good evening everyone, I may try for one more tonight to make up for last night if I can.
January 2nd, 2003, 10:06 PM
i have been very frusterated.
January 2nd, 2003, 11:43 PM
ARRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FRUSTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2003, 04:20 AM
It looks like the year started with a lot of FRUSTRATION.
Damn.. it feels good not to be alone in this - i've had my worst moments ever in those 2 days on 2003 - hopefully this will get us far beter.
ROCK ON! :chug:
January 3rd, 2003, 07:26 AM
January 3rd, 2003, 06:58 PM
killingpeople: really cool ominous mood in this one. and the brush stroke is great! cool portrait
mindcandy: i know those days!!! but if anyone has drive its you...you gotta try to push through that and get the portrait done!!! keep up the hard work
blackhawk: yet another fantastic one! you really love that orange and you use it quite well. i like the way you chose to do the eyes. well done! you are very inspiring. the grad school stuff is coming along slowly....very slowly. its a big pain to be honest
lionel: looking good buddy, keep it up.
January 3rd, 2003, 07:49 PM
Here we go.. more value studies - i couldn't restrain myself from some photoshop tweak after it was done. :bash:
Lionel - definitely big improvements. I think you might want to extend your value range a bit. Also, you seem to want to show every plane there and for me it's a bit too much - i would leave more space to sugestion. Your hatching is made only on straighty lines - not a bad thing but you can try some variations and go with longer strokes around the shape ( a la retro :D).
There are some outlines there that also seem to bother me - i hope you take this the right and easy way - i'm telling you this while i might not be able to follow my own advices - but this is because i know you can.
Here there is a sayng - "do what the priest says, not what he does" - mainly because the priests here were quite out of thier atributes. I might be off too so.. just slap me if i've jumped over the shark :D
Mr Blackhawk - let's see.. yes.. y e s.... here; two eyes for you, (btw - they didn't turned out as good as i was expecting - but reasonable - on the other half - you seem to have some minor eye axis pb yourself :D )
Again i have to say i've followed your steps and went with Oil Pastel - very nice feeling there. I love your loose style - you seem to get the hang of it lately - Oblio bows deeply :bow:
KP - hey my final friend, how are you? Got a computer again? I surely hope so! No more roommates? You killed them all? Tasty? Nice sp - minos symetry problems but.. hey.. great nevertheless. (i love the red and the splash feeling it has - how you do that? :confused:)
MCM - this is a bad behavior - 30 pushups and more studies for you! NOW! :bash: :D Umm.. ok.. now a beer would do :chug:
KP2 - ahh... yes... the master of the mouse is back - am i right? Oh boy .. i wish one day i'll be able to do my SP's just for fun.. without any study involved (if it could be such a thing)
ZZ.. no ZPZP... umm.. no ZiZi... PziPzo.. ah crap : Zippo :eek:
ZippZopp - :rolleyes: pheu... boy.. it was hard but it seems that the last one realy kicks ass. Eyes a bit icon like (your right - my left - seems a bit large), ear a bit too far back (i might be wrong here), great shadow on the neck... background a bit too saturated for my taste - yes.. i do suck.
January 3rd, 2003, 08:52 PM
Oblio: That last one is really really good. Good call on all the advice I agree with you completly. I am really struggling with this and all advice is very much apriciated.
ZippZopp: gret improvement again :). Try pusing your colors out toward the red and yellow hue even if you think that you skin isn't that color. See what these colors do and then try and imcoperate them into you picture.
killing.people: That last on rock there is some serious mood in it great stuff.
MindCandyMan: Painting is easier than drawing :) and use a bigger brush!! :)
Blackhawk: You have come such a long way so quickly. I am really loving these last few from you :). one thing I have noticed is be carefull about where the nose meets the cheeks as it often look at to small an angle on you picture. That whis seem to bring it up to much. Prehaps it would be better as a small highlight? Also make sure you sculped out an eye socket as I think the nose in starting to cut into it. These are only minor nigles to a great piece.
Working on the principal that less is more I have tried to make my lines matter a bit more. I hate drawing in painter any advice gratefully received
January 3rd, 2003, 09:10 PM
i have a new computer but it isnt cooperating with our network along with a few other confusing problems. my friend set up the computer for me and neglected to give me administrative access before leaving to another state.
i used my roomates computer still because he has a better monitor.
i no longer use a mouse, i have procured a wacom tablet.
to get the splash effect, i used painter7's dry brush with a wacom tablet.
January 4th, 2003, 06:15 AM
Hi everybody, my first two from the new year aren't worth posting. But here's tonights humble offering.
May the new year bode very auspicious for all of you.
January 4th, 2003, 08:46 AM
I'll do comments tomorrow. It's almost 6am and it's been a long and frustrating night for me.
January 4th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Sometimes experimentation is a good thing...sometimes it's not.......unfortunately this time I feel it is the latter
I will post more comments later but I have to say that BLACKHAWK this latest one is so amazing. I can't even put it into words...I absolutely LOVE...that piece...I have been having a lot of trouble painting...you are inspiring me to try again...wow I can't even tell you how much this piece hit me straight in the heart. Awesome job man it looks beautiful...the struggle you had last night was worth it.
January 4th, 2003, 03:04 PM
wow i got home and found that all the portraits i did on my laptop show up a loooot darker on my regular computer's monitor...im sort of bummed out but oh well...here is today...
man you guys started 2003 with a vengeance!!! so much emotion and energy going on !! keep up the good work everyone!
January 4th, 2003, 04:47 PM
BLACKHAWK - that one is DOPE man!
Lionel - ok - thx. Then.. I can fire my cannon again - right? :rolleyes: - Your last.. makes you old - your lines are all full black (except some guides i spot behind) and look like ink - and working with ink requires (as far as i know) to varry the weight of the line. I think it's best to have a single light source - no necesarely very strong - just enough to force you spor the shadow. If you have got the brushes mia' has posted about .. two months ago - there are some nice"sketch tools" you might wanna try. If i were you i would try to work with the chacoal or the 2b pencil in painter - but make the brush a bit bigger and work with more opacities - i use 40% and 70% mainly. If you want to make it like ink... then make sure you don't draw lines that are not and also look to varry the weight - thinner in the light.. thick where the shadow is - again - i don't pretend i'm able to do it myself (never tried though) but if you want me.. i'll go for it - it will make two of us.
KP - doh - those computer freaks (i used to be one of them) - comme on - you can set up a toy like that. Good to know you have got back on the track - i remember you wanted that wacom bad enough - i plan to change mine too - i have a rusty old "pen partner" out of production now - the tinyest ever - and i use 2 big monitors - this makes it so hard - i have about half a inch for my strokes :) I think i can start painting on a rice seed soon :D
Grooveholmes - thank you. A great year to you too. Every SP is worth posting - it seems though, that you should put more work on them buddy. :chug:
Blackhawck - as i said it before - that one rocks - i thought at first you used a photo there - that nose.. wow.. and the eye... :bow: (see? one eye is better then two :D - this is Retro's rule :D)
MCM - you're the oracle, friend.. ideas are good. Keep it up. Still more studies for you :D
Ilex - yes.. calibration is a bitch - TFT monitors (laptop) are bad for color anyway. You seem to love the color girl... push it more then. Yours,
January 5th, 2003, 12:05 AM
hey everyone...been a while since ive posted. holidays where busy busy.
heres a couple from before christmas..
my girlfriend hopped a bus back to LA yesterday and i wont be seeing her again for 5 months.
expect a lot more 'empty' portraits from me.
umm...everyone seems to be doing exceptional work/progress...and yeah, frustration seems to be the current theme. trust me when i say i have resources to tap into that emotion. i'll try and play that one up next sp :D
oblio...your stuff is very impressive...pretty much every sp i see from you i can see what you would look like in real life. realism doesnt seem to be your cliche as much as power does.
ilex...your colors are usually pretty damn dark...it lends itself nicely to your wide pallete choices. somehow i think 'living dead' when i see alot of your sp's. i dunno if thats good or bad.
MCM...experimenting is ALWAYS a good thing...its knowing when to continue and when to stop experimenting that requires control. i usually see no more than two or three angles or expressions in your spods...and its usually accompanied by a lot of linear lines....i think it might be good experimentation for you to try more value studies...like what oblios doing...focus on force....dont worry about a jawline...try to pull the fierceness of the eyes out and build what is most striking.
blackhawk...beautifull colors on that last one. your style is really really inspiring. a question: have you been employed for your artistic skills?
happy new year everyone...best wishes for the coming year.
wee im so serious.
screw it...everyone go do mushrooms and watch the two towers twice in a row.
January 5th, 2003, 07:14 AM
Blah. I muddled around in this one too much. It was obviously inspired by Mr. Manley's SP, I had to kind of wing the values to my own facial features though, I really didn't have an overhead lamp to cast the shadow I needed :( Still, it's nothing compared to Manley's though, I'm trying though, oh dear lordy am I trying.
MCM - Thanks, I really didn't expect the reaction that I recieved for that last one, it was surprising. Experimentation is always a good thing. I get bored with a technique quickly, I'm very impatient when it comes to trying out new stuff with my art. I hate stagnating, you know what I mean? Just keep working at it bud, all it takes is tons of dedication and heart, Jason Manley himself has plenty of inspiring and informational advice hidden like little pockets of treasure all over this forum.
Lionel - Thanks for the crit. Yeah, I noticed that the area was screwy too, I need to pay more attention to my highlight values as well, I get stuck in assigning the same highlight to everything and it doesn't read well on my portraits. Your skin looks like it's wet wrinkled in this one :D If you hate drawing in Painter, then just use the good old paper and pencil :) Good job bud.
Killing - That second one is bad-ass, I mean that. It looks like a psycho clown lurking the shadows, that's the very first impression I got from it :D I love it man, good to see you posting a few up again.
ZippZopp - Thanks. Nice SP on your last one, try to incorporate some richer colors into your SP's, everything seems too saturated. That brown line running down the face is bugging me too, but as a whole, this SP is a definite step up. Keep working at it bud.
Oblio - Thanks bud :D Speaking of Retro's rule, whatever happened to Retro? He sent me some PM's awhile ago and now they say Deleted User next to them. Your eye's are piercing in your last two SP's, very well done.
Grooveholmes - Good to see you back, still using the CD for your mirror? The nose on this one came out very well, but the half-hazard line on the cheeks really threw me off. Keep them coming :)
Ilex - Nicely done, like Oblio said, you really like pushing the colors, maybe try unifying them a bit though, the warm's and cool's are clashing in spots, but overall it's holding pretty well together, I like it.
Wazzo - Thanks. Haven't done any art commercially yet, I'm still very much a student, although I really wish I was recieving a more traditional training. Right now I'm going to a small computer animation/trade school or whatever it's called, and I'm regretting it at this point, the instruction I recieved in 3D was excellent, but the traditional instruction is lacking BIG TIME and the traditional is what I'm more eager to learn. This forum and it's users have been a godsend in that respect, I've learned a lot from this place.
Watch out for the head proportions on these, your face is coming out too long and it's not looking right. Be careful of the proportions, don't be afraid to measure it. Keep them coming.
Have a good Sunday everyone.
January 5th, 2003, 09:14 AM
Blackhawk - Thanks for the kind words...I will keep going.
wazzo - awesome advice...I will try it out. I should take some digital photos to work from cause my mirror is small and is stuck in one place.
Oblio - Looks awesome keep it up man.
ilex - looks awesome...love the expression
Everyone else it looks awesome.
January 5th, 2003, 10:28 AM
been a while since I did a SP.. I was bored needed to draw...
I remembered Fosters post with blue and pinks.. did my own rendition.. *shrug*
January 5th, 2003, 01:41 PM
I have of late been plagued by the most intense form of irritability, which, if I could distill it could probably be used to remove warts, deter dogs from fouling the lawn and stop ants from invading the pantry.
yes I know the eyes are too big again
:hothead: duck everyone:
Oblio I think I like the two eye'd value study better than the one eyed one even if the nose is skew and the eyes are not aligned.oblio in orange, he's growling man, watch out he may snap. The nose seems further into the face than the bottom lip, but perhaps you were jutting your lip bulldog style.
ZippZopp good to see you adding backgrounds, the color combo on this one seems a bit well, sweet. The ear seems low and the viewer right side of the face is coming forward somehow. The nose sides and tip are pretty well done.
Lionel the grey hatched one seems a bit insipid yet reasonably accurate, I much prefer the minimalist one. The lines make a sort of melancholy rythm. I agree with Oblio about varying the line a bit but good job anyway
Blackhawk, eyeless one has a presence because of the lack of eyes, the mouth is weird tho. red patch in the middle one is soo different, I like a lot. Looks like the fan brush. it I like the organic crop and the warm/cool contrast. last one, very dramatic, you look starved, I can see where you muddled I think:D it goes all grey
killing.wacom covers himself with red streamers and then hides in the dark. you can do it. the I like the different value approach to the dark one, even though the little voices are whispering cop out. I may be wrong :D it's just I have done the same myself at times. good to see you around here in the new year!
Mindcandyman watch out man, you are turning into an ENT, generally the proportions need some work, on the last one your nose seems long and your forehead too short. The experimentation is refreshing tho.
Grooveholmes offerings accepted, have a happy new year too. now how about a different brush?
ilexmonitor differences can drive me up the wall(anything can at the moment) be glad you aren't printing. the white spot inbetween the eyes make the nose bridge come forward too much and the hair seems a bit flat and I think the finger nail may be a bit small. I like the orangey green colour combo on the cheek under the blue eye.
wazzo Mmm, we have your semi-undivided attention again, I like the sweater and the background best in the red sweater one, expressive bright blue lines in the post girlfriend one
Deth Jester I like the mood in the eyes and the forehead. There is a problem with the head and where it joins the neck. I think the neck looks too wide and it seems a bit twisted.
disclaimer: all opinions stated in this post, yaddayaddayadda, and should not be taken internally
January 5th, 2003, 04:36 PM
still struggling with the fact that i tend to over render stuff....these portraits take me longer than they should because of it. i've gotta try to set a limit of time for myself. anyway, here's a value study
miasmak: nice purple portrait, i think the eyes are a little big on this though. i really like that little highlight at the tip of the nose.
deth jester: cool portrait! i really like that icy blue color on the forehead
mindcandyman: i think that first one you posted has got some good potential. very cool how the face is emerging out of that texture you created. maybe a little more range in value would make it pop a bit more. keep it up
blackhawk: thats awesome! i love that one you just did. great mood to it and the fact that the eyes are blacked out really makes it stand out! great portrait
wazzo: i really enjoyed that last one you posted, very stylized and loose. nice job on that one. the second one seems a bit flat, i think the third is the strongest
oblio: i like that orange color scheme. no crits, nice portrait
ilex: sweet expression!! and the colors are great, i wish i was a bit more bold with my colors, but i just can't seem to do it...
January 5th, 2003, 04:58 PM
Another one done in ZBrush. I still don't have the hang of painting on the Wacom.
ilex-love your style and colors
oblio - nice dramatic portrait. I really like that catch light in your eye, it focuses the whole portrait.
wazzo-love the chalk effect in the first one
blackhawk-I think you did pretty good here-your nose and lower forehead are popping out well
MindCandyMan - love that first one.
ZippZopp - I really like this one
How come we all look like we've just swallowed or heard something disagreeable? Must be the post-holiday blues..
January 5th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Whoops - I skipped Deth Jester and Miasmak
Deth Jester - I really like this one.
Miasmak - you conveyed your irratible mood well -great expression.
January 5th, 2003, 07:06 PM
I haven't felt too good today (sick as hell) but managed to fool around in painter a bit.
First time impasto - i think i should have spent more time on it but... then again - felt like erasing everything and do it again - if it wouldn't be for my spinning head.. i would.
Thx everyone for comments. I'll comment back on you as soon as i'll be back on my feet.
ZippZopp - that value study kicked my ass away - forever AUCH!
r643 - welcome. a bit too fluffy. :D
January 5th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Miasmak: no the anatomy on the neck is right.. I had to wrench my neck in a wierd position to look at a mirror.. :)
sorry if it looks odd..
January 5th, 2003, 11:03 PM
Tonight I seriously almost stopped doing self portraits altogether...I have been so frustrated lately with the crap I have been doing. Jon Foster posted a pic tonight called "jungle jim"...it was so inspiring to see that awesome work of art...I had to keep going. Here is the latest...definitely has plenty of mistakes and is nothing in the grand scheme...but this one is dedicated to Jon.
I'm coming up on my 4 month anniversary...I need to kick it up a notch and start doing better...determination...sorry babbling now...here it is:
January 6th, 2003, 05:35 PM
I'm back from Sweden! Much snow, much cold, much food, many presents (in a nutshell) :D.
I also discovered this brown and grainy paper and bought some charcoal pens really cheap. Thought this a good reason to draw my first portrait since before Xmas with these. Just a quick study, though, and I'm not really satisfied with the likeness and the way I applied the shadows.
I flipped through the December portraits and the first of January and all of you did really really good portraits. I'm glad that I can join again.
@ilex - the deep furrow on your nose and the "nobble" at its root look very strange. But the overall impression of your portrait is very nice.
@Oblio - argh, haven't fixed that firewall problem yet (despite mcotie's advice to switch it off which isn't what I want, really, cause I usually get about four attacks while loading a self portrait page...), so I'm sorry that Ican't comment today.
@wazzo - the 15th Dec one is a bit too blurry for my taste. I love the one from Dec 21st which reminds me of Toy Story. Yesterday's shows your mood very well. Oh dear, separated for five months? I know how that feels, I spent half a year at Aberdeen University once and was separated from my partner for this time and missed him immensely!
@Blackhawk - despite the items you pointed out yourself it looks good to me.
@MindCandy - 1st one: beard rendering is improving! I like the raindrop effect you used to overpaint. 2nd one: reminds me of a van Gogh self portrait. Don't dedicate yourself that much that you end up like him cutting off one ear ;) 3rd one (didn't see the posting at the bottom of the page first) looks very good - but the beard and hair are not very convincing. I know you can do better by now. Look how the light plays with the shiny masses and try to paint/draw this.
@DethJester - looks like a photo overpaint. If it isn't: my compliments!
@miasmak - good light rendering. Yes, the eyes are too big (make this mistake myself.- constantly.)
@ZippZopp - you might call it overrendering - I like it very much. Some of your portraits (today's especially) look like shots from old b/w movies. Why not try a different medium when you want to get over overdoing?
@redon634 - very nice, you're looking very young. That look comes from being concentrated and I'm fighting to overcome this, too (not very successfully yet).
January 6th, 2003, 07:10 PM
painter 7, chalk brush thing
jester: good to see you back! that looks like some cool paper, what exactly is it?
mindcandyman: i know those days man...its so hard to do sometimes, but a place like this is fantastic because its constant inspiration! i really like this one you did. i think if you darkened the background it would help to pull your face up. keep it up!
oblio: you've done a lot better with the impasto than me. its a really cool tool, but i ihaven't quite figured out how to use it properly yet. i like tihs one, very nice painterly feel to it! good job
January 6th, 2003, 08:36 PM
Got to dash keep up the good work people
January 6th, 2003, 09:01 PM
Last Nights SP. Sorry I didn't post it up, was drawing hands and dogs for 3 hours and got caught up. I know the nose is way off center in the right one, I slapped myself for doing such a stupid thing.
Edit - Finished Tonights
Comments later tonight.
January 6th, 2003, 10:31 PM
January 6th, 2003, 11:41 PM
Still trying to get the hang of this digital painting thing. I know ZBrush can do hard edges, I've just got to keep working on it.
Oblio - I'm hoping "fluffy" meant too soft - no hard edges? cause that's what I'm working on..
MindCandyMan - if you increase the value range you might get what you're looking for. As it is, the fact that the only real darks are in your eyes really brings them out.
Jester - love that paper. Nice mix of hard and soft lines
ZippZopp - good one!
Lionel and Blackhawk - two good eye studies
MindCandyMan - this was a good juxtaposition - yours with no eyes preceeded by two eye studies. Shows you how much the eyes tell you about a person -when theyr'e missing gives an eerie effect.
January 7th, 2003, 05:26 AM
#106 - light causing glare on mirror
MindCandy - I like the Jon Foster inspired one, keep it up
blackhawk - youve been improving alot in the past while
lionel - keep up the drawings, be confident with your lines
January 7th, 2003, 09:54 AM
I am sick as a dog... yesterday i've been visiting hell in all its facilities.
If you excuse me.. i'll comment some other time!
I'll never be free
If i'm not free now,
Lord stand by me,
Don't go down,
I never was free,
What are you talking about? - Nick Cave
January 7th, 2003, 11:19 AM
nice eyes blackhawk. i cant never draw my eyes.
first selp-po. with my wacom. lots of errors.. bah...
January 7th, 2003, 01:21 PM
MindCandyMan : Donnnnn't stooooooooop ever ! Determination is key. If you don't feel comfortable with one technique maybe you could try something else ? Like using a big wide brush and block panels of colours while doing your portrait ? Sometimes working with only fine lines is long and frustrating. Let loose :)
I found another oldie ! One of my last drawing with a mouse a year or two ago. :D Gosh it sucks so much it's hilarious :D
[Edit] I forgot.. no ref used. :rolleyes:
January 7th, 2003, 01:35 PM
amazing progress all of you!
Well, another try doing a self portrait a day. I think this time i could be able to do....
Did this one very quick to prove myself that i can do even not having time.....
January 7th, 2003, 01:36 PM
... especially eyes which you consistently draw too big.:eek:
here's one done with a big messy brush, no predrawing, no detail allowed.
January 7th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Was in a very good mood today, so I tried a friendly portrait for a change. :)
@ZippZopp - Well, it's just some sort of cheap looking, very "woody" brown paper. Andrew and Blackhawk used similar paper from time to time and since I saw their pictures I was hunting for a similar look. I found this paper in my holidays in Sweden, in an art shop in the wild, about 4km from our cottage. What a coincidence, eh?
Great perspective on your's - and very convincingly rendered.
@Lionel - the alignment of the mouth looks wrong somehow, though I can't put my finger on what the mistake is exactly.
@Blackhawk - have you ever realized how much you improved during the past months?
@MindCandyMan - oh, come on, try a more cheerful one again. ;)
@redon634 - here you look much older than in the last one.
@element412 - welcome aboard! Good start, despite the mistakes you seem to have found yourself. Your right cheek looks a bit too "bumpy", like you're having tooth aches.
@egerie - I always admire people who can do such stuff with a mouse!
@Jaku - even if it's a fast one, don't neglect the proportions
@miasmak - I don't know why, but somehow most of your portraits look twisted and distorted. But it's a good idea to try one with less detail!
@Oblio - temporarily disabled my firewall (without your portraits this thread isn't what it should be): great impressionistic approach. Hope you get well soon!
January 7th, 2003, 05:43 PM
damn dogs wont shut up! chiwah-wahs think there are the $hit until you STEP ON THEM.
another day, another spod....
mind you, this is yesterdays.
good to see so many posts everyone.
sorry dont really have time to critic....
...zipp zopp ...that last one is soopoib.
January 7th, 2003, 06:00 PM
hey jester congrats on the sp. Thats the best one i've seen so far. Now i know what you look like. Great Job! :thumbsup:
January 7th, 2003, 08:32 PM
I deeply apologise for my lack of coments but it is getting late and I need to be up for work in the morning. I feel bad especially as I ran out of time due to typing far to much in the art forum at sijun *sign*. I will try and write some stuff soon. You all seem to be making such rapid progress I am prod of all of you ;).
First one is me still trying to takle my drawing and the second is me playing around with color :).
January 8th, 2003, 01:20 AM
done in PS7
i did this one a lot later today...gotta get to bed, lots to do tomrrow, i'll come back tomorrow to comment! cheers
January 8th, 2003, 06:13 AM
I apologize for not commenting on everyone's beforehand, I'm sick as a friggin' dog right now, it's probably from my 20 hour marathons that I've been doing the last 4 weeks. I think it's been 8 years since I've last had a good nights sleep at all, first it's damn videogames and now it's art :p
ZippZopp - Your best yet man. The nose could use a bit of softening up, the form is coming off as too unnatural and harsh, but overall the color is great, you really pulled it together.
Jester - Thanks. I've noticed a little bit, that's one advantage with doing the SP's everyday, they are all kept in one folder and it's easy to keep track of progress. This one is looking good, the mouth and the nose are lined up on two different axis though. Be careful of the alignment on those features, god knows I need to watch the same thing :p Very nice work, I saw you finally found the brown paper, it's good stuff :D
Element - Thanks. Don't be afraid like me to draw the eyes :p I'm forcing myself at this point to get them in as much as I can. I like to fall into the shadow cruth sometimes and just shadow out the eye socket, which really doesn't help me one bit. Good job on a first run at it, watch the nose and mouth though, one became askew of the other.
Mr. Brian - Thanks, I'm getting a red X on yours :(
Lionel - Bah, you should be commenting here ;) The simplified first one is nicely done, neck is really giving me the heeby-jeebies though. It would probably work best to incorporate the shoulders a bit, they can really add a lot of personality to a portrait pose and they help ground the neck and head. Atleast that's what I found :D Nice job bud.
Oblio - lol, you and me both, my throat feels like it wants to tear itself open, not a fun feeling. Nicely done bud.
MindCandyMan - I sense a trend here bud. Think positive and you will draw well ;) That's something I had to learn and it really helps to be positive while your doing your work. Art is entirely mental. It doesn't take unbound physical strength to paint or draw, just a lot of mental strength and character. That being said, watch your proportions, especially on the forehead, top of the head. It looks to me like these may be out of proportion on a few of these, especially the greyscale one. Keep at it.
Sorry that I missed quite a few of you from last night and tonight. Hopefully I'll get to you guys tomorrow night, I'm going to pass out before this bug I caught does anymore damage to me. Night everyone.
January 8th, 2003, 10:02 AM
January 8th, 2003, 02:35 PM
back from the dead...
January 8th, 2003, 04:32 PM
marginally more realistic colours, playing with some new Painter7 brushes. Mmm the nose is more 3/4 view than the cheek and the eyes are a tad too wide apart. of course I could have done it with less brush strokes too. It seems well, bloated after keyth's one.
keyth, sparse and effective, I am soo glad you are still alive
MindCandyMan, you have to be empty to become full again. You are just on a plateau, don't stop.
Blackhawk, sleep, fluids and vitamins in either natural or artificial packaging i.e. fruit/veggies or suplements(to which you may reply yes mom and ignore) hope you feel better soon anyway we need you. the bottom one reminds me of daarken somehow. you look tired in all three.
ZippZopp, wow man, this one is great it has a tangible 3D ness to it. the ears aren't the same size. Your left ear is exceptionaly well rendered.keep it up.
Lionel, aargh don't do that rubber neck trick, the ear is low on the colour one. The cheeks look translucent.
wazzo, good volumes on the chin and neck, there's something weird with your left eye and the line on the nose bothers a bit.
Jester, your happy one is glowing, the eyes are alive, the cheeks have more volume too. The dark lines in the mouth and nose seem a bit forced bit it's a small niggle. good job
Jaku, welcome, welcome another face joins the parade. I like the boniness of the forehead.
element412, welcome, welcome here comes another one, good, good. make the eyes stare at us so we can't look away. good work on the tip of the nose.
Oblio, oh dear you are being eaten by leeches it seems. please look after yourself, get someone to pamper you, have a hot soak, please get well soon we need you too.
redon, getting sharper all the time
January 8th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Hey you.. pretending to be the one and only "KEYTH" - you impostor.. what are you looking for here? What have you done with Keyth's body? :p :p :p :p
(glad to see you alive.. but mad on you... WHY? Why friend?)
ah.. i can't stay mad at him too long - get over here :cuddle:
Jester - maybe it works like this. I don't want you to get in trouble for my stupid sp's. Thank you! Much!
Mia- lovely - love the colors, love the brushes.. (too loose i'd say - some perspective problems too. Anyway.. i think you have a harder job then most of us since your face seems harder to draw. I'll try one day to draw you as i think you look like. Hmm.. HOW ABOUT THAT? :fires a bullet in his own foot: :feels much betta': ;)
MCM - friend - i know the call for expression - but don't you want to sharpen your skills? I use almost all my drawing time for study - i guess my time for expresion will have to wait until.. well.. i'll be able to put it on the paper.. the right way. I love it.. as well as other last sp's i've seen from you but.. i can not comment it as a portrait. I mean.. LOOK AT YOUR NOSE! :p
BH - get well my friend! soon - ok? I see your lines there - boy you have got so much better!!! WOW! :bow:
ZZ - excelent light - i think that using some warmer tones in the shadow would have done a gread deal - seems a little flat now. Also.. those eyes - i would work just a bit more on the iris. Anyway.. incredible stuff - i wonder when i'll get there! Thank you!
Lionel - boy.. i am puzzled - i don understand how have you done the collor one so good and have so much problems with the simple one. Comme on.. align those features! Work a bit looser with that pencil... let it go.. STROKE! It's stiff!
wazzo - keep at it... i want to see more!
Jester - good mood suits you!!
Bye for now!
January 8th, 2003, 05:56 PM
I was trying to do a "drow" version of me inspired by some artwork iīve seen today. I started it out and almost finished, but i went to have a couple of beers with a friend :beer: , and when iīve tried to finish it, the program has told me that is not the correct file format. :bash:
It was almost finished!!! :bash: :bash:
Then this is all iīve been able to do....
Oblio_ take care with swartzenegger!! Heīs the hero of the film...
Keyth_ what was that? a rebirth or what??
miasmak_ Very colorfull. Maybe try to fill more the white parts of the canvas...
MindCandyMan_ wel.... mmmmmm eeeeeemmm.... too dark??? :)
Blackhawk_ youīve really improve!
ZippZopp_ the superhero is here!!! The hair looks too hard to me.
Lionel_ Maybe more softer color transitions???
wazzo_ waazzz up!! Too long neck and head.
jester_ Youīve reason about the proportions but i wasnīt thinking about i was doing, just look and paint, i didnīt thought what i was painting or what i had painted, and i didnīt have time to fix it....
January 8th, 2003, 08:27 PM
Jaku: Yest doing something is good :) rember some practice is better than none
Oblio: Damm if I know why I find the color ones so much easier :/. I clearly need much more practice at doing b&w
miasmak: The efect that you are using there is really nice would love to see you refine that look
keyth: Damm glad to see you again seems like ages
MindCandyMan: That one is cool :)
Blackhawk: Have a really bad habit of doing flowting heads :/ Must get in the habit of putting sholders in.
ZippZopp: How about some more reds in your portrats :). That one looks very good btw
I wish I can understand why I have such problems with the balck and white ones :/. The color one is a little rushed :/.
January 8th, 2003, 09:37 PM
i did an expression like this a while back and wanted to try it again
Lionel: i love the expression and i think the eyes are wonderfully done! good work
oblio: i like the way you've done this one and your left eye really adds a cool effect
mismak: i love the colors and the strokes you used. i really wish i could do more like that but i can't! i really like this one you've done, great job
keyth: good to see you back!
mindcandy: neat idea you have there.....i like that black hole in the center
blackhawk: i really really love the sketches you do, you have great variation in line weight and your strokes are very confident. nice job! by the way, what size is that paper you've done them on?
jaku: i second what lionel has said....practice is better than nothing, keep pluggin along and you'll see great improvement!
January 9th, 2003, 01:07 AM
man, everyone's getting so good!
January 9th, 2003, 02:14 AM
nova- i rly like it. also interresting is ur web address... :D .
tks u all for comments. ill comment ur soon.
heres one for tonight
January 9th, 2003, 03:06 AM
nova, that is ill! your dark and ominous-like.
...here finally is my eye study!!
now before you critic it...know this
1) im left handed
2) i did it with my right hand
3) on a mouse
4) ON A MOUSE!
5) in ms paint
6) IN MS PAINT!!!
bleh. i'll get serious one day.
January 9th, 2003, 03:11 AM
this one is inspired by one of my favorite tattoo artists who is well known for putting frogs and lizards and snakes on people...tonight im a froggy
i can't remember i think mia and someone else said the white thing on the upper part of my nose in my last one was looking really weird and once you pointed it out i must say that white thing really is ODD!! thanks for pointing it out!!
oblio: wonderful , expressive, emotional portraits (as per the usual!!!)
element: good start on your previous one...looking forward to seeing more
mia: love this last one...dont care if your nose is at a different view...it gives me the feeling that im looking through a foggy window
jester: i think that's the first time ive seen you smile!
wazzo: i like the way your head and neck are so long and cut across the canvas at an angle...i think this portrait would be even more effective with some darker shadows..more contrast please. 8)
lionel: you look like you're having fun with these!!
zippzopp: these last two have your hair looking like a porcupine!!
blackhawk: of the three sketches the leftmost has you looking the most free ... did you do these on the same day?
jaku: no more beer for you!!!! :bash: :beer: :bash:
nova: very intriguing! i love the eyelashes....i think if im remembering correctly i loved your last portrait too...so long ago....give us more dammit!
January 9th, 2003, 03:53 AM
Nova - you are so cool. Damn glad to see you back here! Lovely SP. :bow:. Comme on.. spare a hint for the poor Oblio.
Ilex - OMG - (reaching for the shot-gun) - Those eyes.. those green eyes... Again - super color. Great way! Keep it up!
Wasso - don't wait too long - a pencil is easy to find ;) It's pitty - you have a GREAT start there!!!
Element - check your PM. Tip there! ;)
ZZ - there is something that makes me wonder - what it the white line from your nose to your mouth??? Again - great SP - see? Those eyes look good now! ;)
Lionel - major improvement - you're getting there - your hatch lines are still to stiff - let it go!
Jaku - hey.. ou and NOVA are here because of Keyth .. right? This is Keyth's Black Magic!! Ok - try to make your hatch folow tha shape! Try to think more 3D - your nose (eg) seems flat. Try one low poly approach - make your nose like a prism or so.
January 9th, 2003, 04:23 AM
Well since its my B-Day......
I figured I do a self Portriat.....
In Open Canvas,,, Its starting to grow on me...
January 9th, 2003, 09:46 AM
I'm new to here, so be nice to me...
January 9th, 2003, 10:14 AM
nice gun. welcome. more!
January 9th, 2003, 10:18 AM
I brought this into photoshop and hit the "fix the stupid errors" button but it gave me an error:
error 541: You must become a better artist to use that button.
karabatka - wow you look...interesting. But seriously though that's cool...very strange...but I like it.
ODIN - Happy birthday bud. Glad to see you posting in here. The proportions on your eyes and nose are a little off...but great work man...especially for in open canvas.
Oblio - You spew wisdom...I am doing more studies. I had to get that out of my system because starting monday I will be taking drawing I and figure drawing I and I will only be drawing from models and still life...so had to get that out of my system beforehand hehe.
ilex - That one is strange, mysterious, and wonderful. Looks totally awesome. I love your "in your face" use of color. Keep it up. The nose looks a little too upturned but great work.
wazzo - sweet work for ms paint...that program stinks...you pushed it to its limit...great work.
element - nice loose style...looks good. The face is a bit shifted (I should talk look at my portrait).
nova - I absolutely love your style. You are well rounded as well...doing this inkish study and doing it well. Great work.
Zipp - I love the expression. I like the looseness.
lionel - the expression is so awesome on the painted one hehehehe. I can't do line work at all in painter either...drawing in painter is so freakin hard...I couldn't do it either.
jaku - I really like this one. I like the expression you captured...you are like, "Don't mess with me..." Keep it up.
Blackhawk - Your stuff always rocks...keep it up
keyth - nice to see you back...love the simplicity
miasmak - I really liked that last one you did...the watercolorish one. It looked really stylistic and I really appreciate your desire to learn and grow. It's a massive struggle isn't it. We will encourage each other. You are getting better...that's for sure...look how much better your feature placement has become!
January 9th, 2003, 11:53 AM
I look like iīm sick on this one... iīve to study color...
Lionel_ there are so much lines in your b&n one. Try to do more with less. longer lines that define shapes...
zippzopp_ very spikey for my taste..
element412_ lot of lines doesnīt it look sketchy
wazzo_ study your whole face
ilex_ noooooooooooo! donīt let me without beer!! your portrait looks very shiny to me. try painting less saturate colors.
ODIN SIX_ work on your proportions
karabatka_ iīll try to be nice so donīt shoot me
MindCandyMan_ try to do the shades more as a mass not like a thousand of lines all together...
I canīt explain as good as i would like in english... iīve a lot of work; study color study english, study anatomy... uff! i need a beer! :beer:
January 9th, 2003, 01:00 PM
Somehow I didn't manage to do a portrait yesterday - too busy doing my business case.
Because of the major success ;) of the smiling one I tried another today.
@wazzo - I can't put my finger on it but your's evokes memories of reading "The great Gatsby" :) As for your eye study: I like how you made the eyeball light blue and thus contrasted it with the green iris.
@iwasink - thanks, I was quite satisfied with this one myself (but my partner wasn't - he's a hell of a critique, no, just kidding, he's a very good critique, always pointing out my weak spots and pushing me further and encouraging as well).
@Lionel - it is astounding how much your drawings differ from your paintings. However, progress IS visible. Check the positioning of the features!
@ZippZopp - 1st one: I like the way you are dealing with extreme shadows and lights. 2nd one: Funny technique (and I remember the pose from earlier). The only real flaw I can find is in the white line running from the tip of your nose to the corner of your mouth.
@Blackhawk - I like that searching look in the top right one. You look much younger on the bottom one than on any other of your portraits. Yes, I found some coarse brown paper and I'm extremely happy with it. First took just one pad and on second thought bought another one. Don't know when I'll find some again (as told before, I found this in an art shop in the middle of nowhere in Sweden).
@MindCandyMan - huuuuulllooo, anybody heeeeere? :D
@keyth - welcome back!
@miasmak - thanks, you are right with the "forced" lines around my mouth - I did them rather at the end of drawing and I guess that by then my smile was a bit "forced", too. ;)
@Oblio - wow, that's really really nice of you! I will find a workaround, though. Script kids can be a pain in the a$$! You can always tell when a new tool has been put to download. Sometimes it's UDP port probes en masse, then Sub Seven Port probes en galore, and on another day they all are trying on TCP port probes. Grrrr.
I like the smily in your eye. And I'm always a great fan of beige colored paper and sepia colored strokes. Apart from the fact that you didn't draw your ear (despite the fact that it should be visible) I can't find anything to criticise.
@Jaku - your eyes look too small on most of your portraits.
@nova - and your's is double cool! :cool: :cool:!! Tip of the nose seems a little bit on the left half but otherwise it's great!
@element - looks a bit hurried but apart from that ok.
@ilex - really nice, a bit blurry in parts, though (don't know whether this was intended or not). Funny, you mentioning that with the first smile, but it isn't. The first one I did on the 17th October last year (but none since, I have to admit...). This is really strange, because I usually smile all the time. But when drawing concentration takes over.
@ODIN SIX - your right eye is larger than the left one. The mouth looks too small.
@karabatka - rabbits are *not* allowed to post. definitely not. :D :D :D (welcome!)
@MindCandyMan - ahhh, that's why this button doesn't work for me either ;) Come on, do invest some time and effort in hair!
January 9th, 2003, 01:10 PM
hahah...that's hilarious jester...honestly I have no idea how to do my hair...it's really short and has strange properties...I will take more time...I need to figure out a method for it hehe...you always catch me on that one...how about my slanted head on this sp...sheesh.
I am looking at your picture right now and comparing it to this self portrait. That's a pretty good likeness jester. There are some proportion difficulties but all in all you are getting tremendously better...keep it up bro.
January 9th, 2003, 01:41 PM
i've been away, but i'm going to try to get back into this
"back to school and seeing red again"
January 9th, 2003, 02:35 PM
I love this one benzo...great work It's very powerful IMO.
January 9th, 2003, 05:45 PM
more uncontrollable pattern pens and watercolour in Painter 7, a bit overworked
ilex, I love frogs, great one.
Oblio, thanks for another prod, I try, but something elludes me. You may shoot yourself in the foot whenever you like :D as for trying to draw my face, be my guest..
hey perhaps we should start a lets draw each other's portrait thread. It would have to be from the person's self portraits or from photo-ref :( I guess
promise to comment more later
January 9th, 2003, 07:41 PM
ZippZopp: Like the way you are using the angles of the lines
nova: Wow that is awesome!!
element412: Nice drawing. Try to make you shading a little more purposeful. Make each line count
wazzo Ms Paint rulez
ilex: You look as though you are having more fun :)
Oblio I will try
ODIN SIX: Happy b Day !!!
karabatka: Whatever you are drinking looks strong
MindCandyMan: You are getting much better. Letting your errors show is good after all these are mainly for practice and if you can't see where you are going wrong how will you improve
Jaku: Nice color study. Try adding some red
jester: Don't understand what it is about my tablet that makes it so hard for me to draw with. I am better with a pencil but I have no scanner so I can't show you :/. I am glad you are smiling :)
benzo: Welcome back I am sure you will have no problem getting back into this :)
miasmak: Looks goo I love the color :).
Feel a bit shatered tonight so this is a quick one :).
January 9th, 2003, 07:47 PM
thanks for the welcome back guys!!!!!!:chug: :p :chug:
January 9th, 2003, 09:24 PM
Well, once again, my paying job interferes with what I'd really like to be doing...! Here's my spod for this work week, done in pencil on computer paper. the circle around my head is definitely not meant to be a halo, I used a CD as my mirror and guide (someone here gave me the idea, can't remember who, but thanks)
lionel-your paintings do seem a lot freer than your pencil work Somebody has probably already suggested it, but maybe try drawing with a brush?
ZippZopp-I really like it. Good jobs on the lights and darks
nova - striking portrait!
element412-I like how you've used your strokes so freely - seems like the proportions might be a little off.
wazzo - much better than I could do with my left hand!
karabatka - welcome
MindCandyMan- you're drawing looks good, proportions, etc.
jester - that is a really nice portrait! Smiles are so hard to make natural
benzo - cool portrait! I especially like the eyes
keyth - I really like this one.
(I couldn't see a lot of the images, homepages must be down)
January 9th, 2003, 10:09 PM
i just reinstalled my os so i need to go through and do a bunch of stuff so i'll reply more later but i just wanted to tell you mia that i think your last portrait is absolutely beautiful.
January 9th, 2003, 10:51 PM
ok. this post goes out to everyone who thinks my neck is too long, my faces is too long and my body too skinny (i put that in for myself)
as far as quality goes, this is by far my greatest work ever.
sorry no time to comment. the viet cong is gonna murder me if i dont move now
GO GO GO GO
January 10th, 2003, 01:12 AM
Hey everyone, sorry I missed yesterday, I was hit hard last night and today with a sinus infection. It isn't fun. This is what my head feels like right now :bash:
It's great to see that this place has finally picked up some speed again, welcome back all of you.
MCM - Nice job on these last two, the proportions are looking better, the chin looks weird to me on the recent one though, I think it's the way you rendered the goatee hair. Maybe massing it a bit more and pushing it up just a tad will fix it. Right now that chin just doesn't look right to me, but you have that forehead pulled in now :). If you want to render hair, it's always better to render in masses of values than individual strands. It looks a lot cleaner and gives it some volume. Nice job bud.
Wazzo - lol, this last one cracked me up.
Redon - Nice rendering on this last one, looks like the eyes are out of alignment a tad though.
Keyth - Welcome back man, you gotta let us know what happened to you. I was starting to think you got shackled up in a basement somewhere :D The last two are great.
Lionel - These last 3 SP's of yours are very nicely done. The line one may have too many lines all over the place, but overall it's good to see you experimenting. If you don't want to draw in Painter, grab the pencil and paper... just look at it sitting there, it's taunting you, use it, you know you want to ;)
I find drawing in Painter difficult as well if that's any consolation (sp?) to you :D It feels too unnatural to me. I'd do more pencil work outside the machine and scan it in for my digitally painted stuff, but my scanner is a POS.
Mia - These last two are great, but the most recent one is gorgeous, you really did a great job on it. The first one was hard to see the forms a bit, but this one really looks great. The only thing I may look at again is the nose form, but other than that, beautiful. :thumbsup: BTW, I have been taking the vitamins, but they won't help too much with a sinus infection, they are really a pain. I think the last time I had one of these was two years ago, now it just hit me hard again :(... blah.
Benzo - Great job on this one man, good to see you back.
Jester - Another great one, this smile portraits that you have done have been excellent so far. Great work man.
Jaku - Nice job on these, good experimentation, but as someone else pointed out, the eyes look like they may be too small on the last two you posted. Be careful of that and make sure to measure well.
Karab - Welcome to the thread, very interesting SP, nice deviation from the norm around here :D
Odin - Happy Birthday and welcome to the thread. Be careful of feature size and placement. Right now the mouth and the farthest eye to the right look like they aren't the correct size for the head. Other than that, keep on contributing, it only gets better from here on out :D
Ilex - Very nice frog SP :D I really dig the eyes on this one. As for my 3 sketches, yes, they were all done on the same night. First one was the bottom, second one was the top, 3rd was the left. Then I gave up and posted them :)
Element - Good to see another from you, watch the chin and mouth area, right now they are misshaped, so it looks like the lower half of the face is jutting forward. It's one of the hardest spots to nail on an SP, so be careful of what your observing in that spot. Keep them coming.
Nova - Beautiful job on the SP. The shadow around your mouth has me thinking of Beetlejuice for some reason. It's probably from the crust he had around his lip all movie, it just struck me as funny, that was the first thought that entered my mind when I saw it :D Nice job.
Zipp - Thanks. The paper size is 11x14, I only used the half the pad for these 3 though, the sketches weren't big at all. This one is an interesting experiment, the thing that really bugged me in it though was that grey line going from the nose to the lip. I think if you eliminated that and worked some other solution to the spot, it would look better. Nice job bud.
Lionel - Thanks. You've gotten better yourself, and see, two eyes are better than one :D The smiley face in the right eyeball cracked me up. Nice job man.
Good night everyone, going to pop some medications and pass out in a pool of snot.
January 10th, 2003, 02:00 AM
jan 8th, 5 am, weird mood
jan9th, 7 am, dream theater
(at least got the likeness right this time)
January 10th, 2003, 03:37 AM
saw my ex today... with another guy. they hugged and did happy coupley things.
the pain :p
January 10th, 2003, 04:16 AM
Looks like you got hit with a Buck shot!!!!!
I can see the pain,,,, Good job
January 10th, 2003, 04:23 AM
umm.. i' mlate in postin - the net at home is.. broke - i'll fix it in we.
I've also forgoth to bring the drawings with me at job - always leave in a hurry!
SEB- just wanna say that you have a GREAT SP. It's very emotional ane well constructed. I'm already a fan. As for the "ex" - try not to think about her (how shes doing, how were you back at the time). Think about your future... what's coming next. It might not be a lovely sight right now.. but looking back doesn't heal wounds. I'm so happy to see you putting yourself trhough your art - keep at it - best pieces get out like this.
Looking forward your next!
Mr. T - Sdravo :) Nice to see ou back here. How are you lately. Not seen much new stuff - comme on.. it's a pitti - your style rocks!
Blackhawk - oh.. yuck... infections suck! Get well friend!
later.. got to work now!
 - BTW - my last offspring from gameloft is out! Well.. it was out for a while but buggy (it wasn't me :D - remember i left a while ago :D).
If you have a Palm and wanna try it - here (http://www.gameloft.com/en/product_page.php?item=121&GameloftShop=1f05d8f221d3ea31ce170be4277fca44)
January 10th, 2003, 09:21 AM
back from the half-dead..-
@keyth: welcome back. hope you stay a while.
@blackhawk: very delicate drawing. you worked out the features very well, only the shirt bothers me and that hatching on the left next to your head. dont spoil your pieces with that kinda senseless flaws, you already proved you can do better!
@seb: great piece, i'm producing probably half of your website hits ;) hope you'll drop in here now and then.
well about that girl thing, i disagree with oblio. pain seems to be a fundamental of life (i'm not a budhist guy), imho it tastes more real than a lot of other things. on the other hand that probably doesnt help you a fucking bit. oh my...
January 10th, 2003, 09:28 AM
lame...I know...I had like 5 minutes last night heheh sorry was doing film stuff.
January 10th, 2003, 11:19 AM
touched a bit in photoshop
MindCandyMan_ the evil sauron can see us all
seb_ very expresive and very well done
MR.T_ welcome back. is good to see you here again!
Blackhawk_ very neat portrait. And thatīs done infected. Get well soon, i want to see what your able to do...
redon634_ you need more contrast
keyth_ great style as allways!
Lionel_ no comments. Youīre great, man
miasmak_ i think darker shadows would fit nice there
benzo_try to do a little effort, i like your style a lot
jester_ it looks very natural. great!
January 10th, 2003, 11:59 AM
January 10th, 2003, 06:01 PM
heres one from over break.
keyth-like the pov
jaku-really like the texture and mood
mindcandyman-nice study, by adding more contrast it will become more intersting and possible describe more form; darker under the top lid and highlight along top of bottom lid
seb-very cool port, cool efx
mr.t-wow, love them both
January 10th, 2003, 06:13 PM
i swear, i am.
benzo - awesome stuff as always, good to see lotsa posting from you. somehow your art brings 'incubus' to mind. incubus+andrew jones+joe mad. if thats not praise, what is.
keyth - your last sp looks like a native indian. mmm peyote.
jaku - something funny about the left jawline.
MCM - keep at it.
Retro - good to see you back. missed your posts
Seb - wicked sp. i can feel the agony
Mr. T - awesome awesome sp. reminds me of an X-men character thats name is denied to me at the moment. damn peyote. (jk) the second one is rather nice. well done. late hours usually pay off.
blackhawk - your spods always seem somewhat rather serious or morbid. you should put that sinus cold to some use and shoot boogers everywhere and draw it with a visceral threatening look like you just ate that dog you draw all night.
January 10th, 2003, 10:19 PM
its been a hectic few days.....
wazzo: i really like that style, very cool portrait!
benzo: thats great! reminds me of one android did a while back. i like the creativity you've got goin, i gotta start mixing mine up
keyth: awesome as usual. i love the perspective of this one, really nice job
jaku: cool stuff, the only thing that bothers me is the bulge on the left side, right around where the cheek is, i don't think i would make a bulge there
mindcandy: an eyes study is better than nothing at all!
retro: what can i say, i totally envy that style you have going, fantastic work!
seb: thats simply awesome, expression is awesome, you've really given a feel for the mood you were in, i love the way it trails off as well! excellent portrait
mr t: nice work, that yellow you've used behind your head is great, really makes the portrait pop up
blackhawk: once again another great portrait....so simple but very elegant. great work
lionel: you've really captured a great expression with this one, they eyes really set that off. its a very intangible feeling, and i think thats what makes it so cool!
January 10th, 2003, 11:51 PM
January 11th, 2003, 12:09 AM
nothing like the taste of blood...
January 11th, 2003, 04:03 AM
Scans from my sketchbook i took with me over new years.The self portrait stared into a mirror,took around 30 mins to do.
The hands studies i did while travelling in the car,bout 5 mins each,and the eye studies i did while staring into the car mirrors,around a minute each....you might have to wait a little bit for pic to load,slow server..
i love yer style Seb,youve got a similar style to the one ive been trying to get a hang of..
Nova,very well executed i like this one alot,bold and confidently placed lines..some reason reminds me of Frank millers artwork.
Blackhawk,i can tell a trained hand and you must have lessons dont you?..if not holy moly..:)
Mr T...love that red coloured portrait..
Redon...very nice sketch..maybe sketch a tad darker to really bring out the form of your face,just a suggestion.
Mindcandyman i like how loose you r with a pencil but maybe try not to be to fague with details\construction..
Keyth,nothing much to say bout this one,everyone else has said what i was gonna say :).
Wazzo,looks like your going to be an animator which is what i do :)...just like mindcandyman some of yer lines look a little vaguely placed always time to think them out :P
sorry if i missed ya,im kinda in a rush,getting kicked of the computer .hah!!..
January 11th, 2003, 03:41 PM
wooo.. something from me again.
a quick one
a fun one, me as an uruk-hai - There are quite a lot of problems in this portrait (flatness, jaw, muscles, etc.) but it was extremely much fun to do it.
January 11th, 2003, 06:18 PM
inspired by one of blackhawk's latest
taff: those are both really cool, i love the coloring and the color scheme of that second one. the expression on the first one is great!
seb: thats another really cool one, great use of color
blackhawk: great use of color in this one, although i'm not sure i like the red goin all the way around the head. the blues in the forehead really work well in this one
January 11th, 2003, 09:17 PM
blackhawk, you are amazing!!!
January 12th, 2003, 12:27 AM
another scan from my sketchbook,bout 5 mins to do,...before doing this i didnt realise how wrinkled my face is becoming..lol..
January 12th, 2003, 02:22 AM
I had the urge to get messy tonight. I figured I might as well take Wazzo's advice, I have a runny nose that won't shut off, so I wanted a runny picture... kinda.
Seb - Your last two SP's were incredible looking. Especially the first one, it had a lot of movement too it. Nicely done and welcome to the SP thread.
Retro - Thanks for the crit. I hope you recieved that PM I sent you, it's good to see you back. As always, very nicely done with looseness.
MindCandyMan - Nicely done study with the eye, the eyeshape itself though is too iconographic, if you know what I mean. If you don't, the eye you drew is too perfectly football shaped. Observe your eye closely and notice how the eyelids wrap around the eyeball. Keep at it bud, observe intently, and draw a lot :D BTW, I like that gnomehead picture in the lounge thread, I cracked up when I saw that.
Jaku - Thanks. The mood in this one is intense. It reminds me of something, I can't quite put my figure on it, I'll have to get back to you later on it, but it kind of has a dark, goth, noir, mood, I don't know what to call it. The only thing bugging me, as others have pointed out, is the jutting bulge on the left side, but the texturing and atmosphere are very cool.
Keyth - Thanks man, I can easily say the same for you as well. Your gone for months and then come back and it seems like you never missed a beat :chug: That nose on this recent one looks awesome. It looks like a nuke blast just went off, extremely over-exposed, high-intensity light in this. Great stuff bud.
Benzo - Interesting SP. I definitely like the creativity in yours. As others have said, you have kind of have an Andrew Jone's flair in this one. Cool stuff man.
Wazzo - lol, yeah, I get really serious looking when I do these SP's. I put 100% concentration into these and it's hard to crack a smile or do a goofy face, atleast for me. So I did actually try for a different face tonight :D It's not quite what you described, but it's as close as I could get. Good work on this SP, nice animated style to it.
ZippZopp - Thanks, nice job on these last two. Watch out on the forehead shape though. The head right now is looking like it's loosing mass and flattening out at the top of the head. You've really softened the nostrils on the nose though and made it look more natural though, nice job :D
Rusty - Excellent sketches, I really enjoyed them. As for the lessons question, no, I haven't taken any lessons, a lot of what I've learned has been from books I bought, these SPOD's, life drawing at home, and advice and help from this forum. If it wasn't for this place and a lot of the professional talent on here helping everyone, I couldn't have learned this much.
Taff - Excellent portraits. The nose on the first one is shaped kind of weird, but the second is much cool. The orc face one does look flat, but the execution otherwise and very well done. Good job man.
Goodnight everyone, I'm going to crawl off to bed with my box of tissues at this point.
January 12th, 2003, 09:29 AM
from photo ref can you tell. very stiff, but it looks like me for a change. I tried to stay with human colours but couldn't help myself.
blackhawk, hope the rivers of snot subside soon, the sinus thing can make you think all your teeth are rotten. good work lately, are you using those fineart brushes? I especially like the blues that are appearing in your work.
January 12th, 2003, 11:26 AM
that was fun. i would love to comment, have to do that later.
January 12th, 2003, 12:58 PM
My studio is a little chilly in the mornings, thus the hat.
January 12th, 2003, 07:45 PM
so - how are you people???
here - my last ones.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
ANYONE - (if any masters still lurk around - Andrew,J, Jon)
I NEED FEEDBACK TO THESE!
It's the first time i'm working the values out of my head - i've tried not to look too much in the mirror - so features might be a bit off and stuff.
But from the value pov ANY info is GOLD!
I think i've pek to this one a bit.
Comments for you tomorow. Ok?
January 13th, 2003, 01:44 AM
inspired by phil hale and shawn barber; finally spent a while on an sp, I'll be able to look at it more clearly tomorrow...
Oblio-these are good studies; i like the middle one because it has the most contrast; the last one seems to be the best in terms of accuracy; i don't really know ho to comment on them beyond that....wish i could help more
Dan- thats awesome! welcome, i haven't seen your work before. Down here in Florida we only wear those for fashion:)
taff-yes, it looks like fun
miasmak- like the colors. i think your proportions are off on your eyes..a little too big?
blackhawk- wow, your ports keep getting better and better, keep it up man, and keep experimenting with color
keyth-i like it introverted
January 13th, 2003, 06:27 AM
Mia - Yeah, I've been messing around with those fineart brushes that you posted awhile back. They are fun brushes to use, I especially like the fan. Your look like they are out of proportion on this, as benzo said.
Taff - A lot of energy in the crosshatching, nice work man.
Dan - Welcome, very nicely done SP.
Oblio - Nice value studies, looks like the face flattened out a bit on the top one, especially with the values around the forehead. Second and third look very nicely round. Sorry, not much else I can think of right now. I feel rather crappy tonight, as I have for the past week, I hope to god these sinuses clear up soon.
Benzo - Thanks, you did an excellent job with the colors on this, nice and warm. Good job.
January 13th, 2003, 09:21 AM
I never spend enough time on my portraits so I am gonna follow this one to it's completeness. So this isn't done yet...just a step:
January 13th, 2003, 11:48 AM
bad day. i donīt want to work anymore... i think iīm going to have some :beer:
January 13th, 2003, 12:15 PM
since I dared use a photo ref ...
Blackhawk, thanks for the comment the fan and the scrub brushes are my favourite in that set, just found some cool pattern pens that look like water colour but don't work on the watercolour layer if you are interested.
MindCandyMan, good start
Benzo, cool one very finished
Oblio, I like the first one best because of the expression, values look ok to me.
Dan, welcome, slick one
January 13th, 2003, 01:53 PM
hey everyone, just got back from winter break, so i got lots to post. i figured instead of posting al of them id post the more successfulones, if anyone wasnt to see the rest lemme know. i started using photoshop again with 100% opacity to force myself to chose all the colors without relying on transparencies, and the results have benn hit and miss. here are the hits :P
everyones been doing some awesome work this month,
MCM you're still improving at an impressive rate.
keyth, good to see you back, have you been doing them all along or were you taking a break?
blackhawk-alot of really good ones i saw, i see you're growing your hair out. kinda funny how its like metting your friends and you can see the passage of time with facial hair and haircuts and whatnot.
oblio-pretty good for being out of your head, particularly the top one. the thrid one, the cheekbones look like they are set out too far, giving you a rounder face. good for no ref though, keep at it.
taff-your line driven work is very interesting, i look foward to seeing much more from you.
benzo, miasmak, wazzo, ZippZopp-keep up the good work
January 13th, 2003, 03:19 PM
thought i'd rub one out real quick between classes (hehe) so here's today. im actually having a nice day and im good spirits...it's just the nature of me to make me look sad i guess. i dunno.
everyone's doing great..
blackhawk...you rawk as usual. i really love your last one..
mia that photo ref one kinda scares me..in an 80s mannequin sort of way.. 8)
jhibbs you got this sexy david blaine thing goin on in your second one . lol.
dan..love the hat! and your free, confident strokes..
oblio..the third one really captures me...
benzo..love the colors
mindcandy...i know you're still working on this one but i'll say anyway that i'd like to see more contrast in it...
ahhh i want to keep commenting but i have to catch a bloody bus....
January 13th, 2003, 03:36 PM
I'm glad you said that ilex...thanks...definitely
January 13th, 2003, 05:45 PM
Just a fast an loose one today. The face got a bit long.
seb - (10th Jan spod): great portrait, one can feel the pain!
retro - long time no see! Missed your expressive style. Good job on the mouth.
MindCandyMan - better an eye study than nothing. Only that thick outline of the iris troubles me. Don't tell me that you've shaved off your goatee!
Jaku - "I am your father" huahua :D; today's is a bit too dark to criticize much
keyth - you have painted wrinkles, creases and so on that made you look 60 years old; thanks that you brought the earphones back :)
benzo - weird! In today's your Adam's apple protudes a bit too much
wazzo - good comic style pose
ZippZopp - your eyes aren't aligned properly, on both portraits
Blackhawk - I like that colorful approach. On the second your mouth looks too girlish, just like those pin up girl drawings of the 50s. Nice color choice on today's, that contrasting orange background really fits.
taff - expression of the eyes is very strong but the proportions seem off (esp. mouth); uruk hai one is fun! Third one: Bad hair day, eh?
miasmak - now I know what you look like - no, just kidding! But in this photo-ref piece you got the proportions better. In today's you did a really good job on the nose.
Milligan - looks good but as with some of the others' portraits your eye alignment seems to be wrong somehow.
Oblio - The pose of the 10th Jan is very difficult to draw convincingly but I think you did quite a good job here. Not much to say on the one from 11th, the one from 12th looks very good.
jhibbs - good to see you again. Keep up the good work!
ilex - very 3d shapes! :D
January 13th, 2003, 06:35 PM
Wonderfull SP's EVERYONE!
Gotta run now. Keep at it!
January 13th, 2003, 08:23 PM
My Girlfriend came to stay this weekend and broght with here some vampire buble bath that turns your bath red. Since I am going to be bathing in the blood of toad and rat (acoding to the bottle) I felt I should do a self portarat of me as a vampire. I really hope that red water doesn't stane you skin ;).
January 14th, 2003, 03:31 AM
heres a SP from imagination i drew while on the bus...Ive looked at my ugly mug enough so this is a good likeness...
Black hawk ,that painting ya did on the previous page(the one ya did when you had a runny nose) is my fave of yours cause even though i dont know you it almost seems i do know ya for some strange reason with that portrait.It just seems real truthful which a self portrait should be rather than a glorified image of onesself..
looking great so far mindcandyman :)..
Well executed Benzo.I really like that sketch on previous page,has a hellrazor feel to it..
Miasmak i like that aura like feel to your portraits..very calming.
ilex nice colours,also how your painting around the form of yer face,has a sculptural feel to it..
Taff very nice cross hatching,one suggestion maybe use inkwash with that pen.
Jester,nice sketch there,just needs a little more contrast.
Oblio,tha third one is my fave out of them,maybe watch where ya put yer contruction lines,sometimes they can enhance the picture and sometimes totally wreck it.trust me i do it all the time...I latter that is...:D
January 14th, 2003, 03:37 AM
rusty..that sp really scares me..i love how you've gotten so much character in it
lionel.. you crack me up!! im curious to see if your next one shows red-stained skin!
jester..the face on this does look long compared to your others...
ok. long day makes me a tired one.
January 14th, 2003, 04:34 AM
ilex - this is my fav so far. good work girl!
keep it up!
rusty - nice clean sketch. MORE!!!
lionel - ah.. the cute vamp - friend.. if you realy want blood.. GET OVER HERE! :vampire:
jester - i know it's scanner's fault but.. Rusty is right - MORE CONTRAST!
Jhibbs - nice to have you back friend! 1-st and seccond - my fav.
Mia - GREAT colors - MIND that form again. It would look so much better if you will try to watch the perspective and the form a little more! Again - great colors! :bow:
Jaku - best one yet! KEEP IT UP!
MCM _ ok... where is the crest of it? :p
January 14th, 2003, 05:47 AM
*does evil laugh at ilex ..:P..wow thats very cool ilex,why so sad lookin?..
cheers Oblio,ya ill get some more sketches up soon...
last one b4 i crash,this i just coloured up the SP sketch i posted up on the previous page..My first attempt at an abstract look...photoshop 5.0..
January 14th, 2003, 06:57 AM
Sorry, it's awfully late, so no time to comment. I'll do comments tomorrow from school if I can get my project out of the way. Night everyone and have a great Tueday.
January 14th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Hey all...bathroom mirror...can you smell that?...what is that?...oh wait that's the crap I keep posting...it's stinking up the boards. :barf: :bars:
Ok everybody...the update on that self portrait is coming...HOWEVER...I leave for work at 6:30 in the morning and because of my classes I don't get back until 9:00 at night...so it will take me more days to complete it than normal. I'm taking drawing I and figure drawing I so that will help me do portraits better.
Blackhawk - This one is sleek and clean...I like it a lot...although your head looks a little elongated.
Oblio - it's coming sorry hehe.
ilex - so much style on this one. It's like a betty boop portrait almost...not really...but that's the feeling I pull from it. Looks awesome. (That wasn't meant as a cut if you don't like betty boop hehe). Thanks for the tip about the portrait...I definitely need to push the values.
rusty - the rest is coming :)
lionel - ewww...sounds disgusting heheh. I love the fangs though.
jester - I really like the looseness of the contours you have achieved in this...the likeness isn't quite there but like you said a loose one...keep it up. My goatee was cut short for a little while but it grew back now...on that one sp I just didn't get to it yet heheh.
January 14th, 2003, 12:47 PM
Sorry, am in a hurry tonite... - under 10 minutes (in front of the bathroom window, too ;) )
January 14th, 2003, 05:34 PM
tried to get the porportions more accurate, don't think I succeeded
I owe comments ... tomorrow
January 14th, 2003, 07:04 PM
another quick one. I'll comment tomorow too. not too happy with this one.
Boy.. we're a tired planet! :zzz:
oh.. here is a version with more focus on the planes. :
blackhawk - That's enough friend - GET WELL! (long face :D)
MCM - faster faster...
Jester - one of your best - nice & clean - just a bit more focus on the eyes and it would have been set - keep at it!
Mia - oh... great effort. I can tell it from the tension of your face - THIS IS THE WAY. Mind the perspective too - draw your guide lines first. Keep it up. I am realy impresed by your last pieces - the effort shows up!
January 14th, 2003, 07:57 PM
More finished version of a SP i started a while back..
miasmak,dont really like the green in that SP,Almost makes me feel sick..do you have the flu or something?..other than the green its very nice.
Blackhawk is that a pencil sketch or did ya sketch it up on the computer?..either way its nicely done,maybe more detail in the ears would be nice.
Oblio,I like the first one better,keep it up..
Also thanks 4 the help,i appreciate it ;)
MCM hurry up..:P
January 15th, 2003, 12:34 AM
bad bad mood....i graduated college and can't find a damn job, and i'm broke! this really sucks and these portraits are getting harder and harder to do cause i'm in a bad mood
oblio: those studies are looking good, keep it up
jester: i like this sketch, there seems to be a real sincerity to it
MCM: keep goin with it, your progress has been fantastic...just keep on goin, now i just have to try and take my own advice
blackhawk: i like this latest one, although the back of the head seems like its slanted up and a little too narrow
ilex: simply awesome! i love it
lionel: good job on this one, i love the glow of the eyes
jhibbs: good to see you back, i like these ones you've done
January 15th, 2003, 12:46 AM
ilex-thanx :p you look kinda sick in that first sp. good colors on this one, especially the hair. the second one down is more interesting composition-wise though.
oblio-thanx, those were my fav's too. you always have very solid consistent work, this one seems a bit soft though the form is still good.
blackhawk-nice to see some of your traditional stuff again, you had alot of great ones while i was away. head seems a bit stretched out at the back of the cranium, next time maybe try looking at some of the early steps oin a mirror (or flipping horizontally in PS) its a very useful tool, and one i use almost every time on my sp's.
miasmak-this one has a strong sense of light and form, nice job. i agree about the sickening feeling of the green vortex/halo, but not as a flaw, just makes it interesting. it might work better if it carried to the edge of the paper however.
jester-nice for a quicky. have you thought about trying some different media/techniques? you never miss one do ya? how many are you up to?
lionel-wow sounds like you're in for a fun evening ;)
heres some more i havent put up yet, two from today and one from yesterday.
January 15th, 2003, 03:43 AM
my pencil tip broke, so i stopped.
jhibbs: i really like your latest works, very personal style :)
January 15th, 2003, 03:59 AM
Retro - Boy.. are you sure you are not related to Beethowen?
You certenly draw like the 5-th :D
Jhibbs- yeah - a simple auto contrast would make it pop but i wanted a "moody" feel" - i'm not happy with it. The form construction still suck - the part right above the eye (the eyebrow bone structure) should be more clear. Also the planes next to the cheek bones need a retake. I'll payt more attention to it in the future.
ZippZopp - thx. Yours look good too. If i'll have to comment i'll say that too many sharp lines are commingh out of your SP. I would keep some (around the eyes and so) and soften the edges on the chin.
Rusty - VERY NICE. It would be fabulous if you can find another host - posting your pic along with the rest of us will get you more feedback.
January 15th, 2003, 04:06 AM
hey guys!!! once again thanks for the comments and the welcome backs:p . i know, i know...i guess i should explain my little absence. but all it really boils down to is that i just took a break from things for a while...one thing being the internet. i took the spod break because i felt as though i was becoming very stale. i was not enjoying painting one everyday.
however i must admit that it feels very nice to be back with the ol'family again.:p . i'll come back with some comments soon. it's 2:00 a.m. and i still have some drawing to do.
i said it once, and i'll say it again:
thanks goes out to every single one of you.:p
January 15th, 2003, 09:19 AM
Crap...I finished that self portrait but I forgot to put it on a zip disk to bring with me to work to post...doh...sorry...will post soon.
I don't know how you do that keyth...like perfect every time...looks exactly the same every time and it probably takes you like 45 min to do...as opposed to me taking hours and hours and it still looking crappy...I am so inspired by your stuff...makes me want to get to that level.
January 15th, 2003, 09:35 AM
yeah.. the dog eat it! :p
J. D. Hillberry
January 15th, 2003, 12:20 PM
Hi Everyone, This is my first time here. I hope I am posting this in the right place. This is a trompe l'oeil type selfportrait I did a while back using charcoal and graphite.
The entire image is drawn, including all the tape, torn paper, and background mat board. It is self-portrait that depicts what an artist has to do after a critic rips them apart. Artists are usually sensitive people to begin with, so I find it interesting that many people feel it is perfectly acceptable to tell an artist that their work is terrible.
Here's a close-up:
Even though the idea behind this piece suggests otherwise, I welcome comments and critiques.
J. D. Hillberry
To see more of my work, please visit my web site:
January 15th, 2003, 12:35 PM
Lovely... realy great.
Well what can i say - welcome and.. YES - definitely this is a right place for posting it. It's an honor for me.
Here... we are basicaly ripping ourselfs apart - that's since we try to learn something out of each SP.
I'm a total noob - i've started drawing the day this site came online - about few months ago. so.. excuse my noobieness.
If i'll have to comment.. i'll say that the inactive hand- shoulder seems a bit off. It's an unclear area anyway so i might be off myself.. but... that's my part of the rape :D
Also.. the ear seem to have a perspective problem or something strange.
Anyway - once again - thank you for sharing and .. welcome!
January 15th, 2003, 01:00 PM
That is absolutely amazing. Wow...great stuff J.D. ....sheesh I can't even capture a likeness...let alone do something as complicated as that...sheesh. Hey how did you get the gray background texture like that?...looks really real! Awesome work man.
J. D. Hillberry
January 15th, 2003, 01:34 PM
Thanks Oblio, and MindCandyMan,
I used charcoal for the grey background and graphite for the rest. Charcoal reflects light differently than graphite and when you use them together you can create some extremely realistic results. (Warning: Shamless Plug coming) You can find more on this subject on my site or in my book "Drawing Realistic Textures in Pencil" from NORTHLIGHT Books.
Oblio, In this piece I had to create two different degrees of realism. The part that looks like a drawing had to keep that "drawn look" in order for the tape and tears to look real. If I render my image to completion as I normally would, it would take away from the realism of the total piece. That is why the shoulder, ear, and many other areas of the sketch part look unfinished and out of whack. That's the theory anyway.
This page of shows more of how I fully render portraits when I'm not going for different degrees of realism.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
J. D. Hillberry
January 15th, 2003, 03:17 PM
That is amazing...the textures you achieved in those portraits are flipped out. So amazing! Great work man I am really impressed. I am definitely gonna try to fit your book in my budget.
January 15th, 2003, 05:55 PM
Thank you J.D. - Oblio is definitely smarter now :)
Kick ass portraits man.
Here is a quick crap - just fooling around.
January 15th, 2003, 07:54 PM
J. D. Hillberry: Just plain WOW!!!
I am soooooo tired time to runn off to bed so just a quicky.
January 15th, 2003, 11:34 PM
...astonishing J.D....thanks for posting here :)
heres my crud that never got finished. was trying for some 'color vibrancy' thing here...completion wasnt in the agenda.
ive been rather unispired of late. need to crack open some creativity,
a little c&c to keep up with the company
ilex - that last one is incredible...very different than your usual...i really like how the cloth looks. great style..the composition and color pallete...ahhh..its all good! grrreat work!
blackhawk - thanks for improvising on my behalf the other day on that spod...upon recollection i thought i was being an ass by critising your work...all your stuff is simply amazing...very inspiration too. i always get torn between giving it straight and leaving people with a different perspective and just approving of what i like and leaving what i dont aside. guess it depends on the my current mood. today im in 'approve and encourage mode'. great work as always. keep it up. :p
MCM - your thumbnail sketch isnt bad...regardless of quality in your spods, a likeness always emergess. great job, keep at it.
jester - great spod...for a quickie...very even proportions and accurate (if hasty) shading.
Mia - thats alotta contrast goin on there. *gulp* ..the one thing about your spods that usually shows up is your tendancy for dark and swirly BG's...it mixes nicely with your style ... but it tends to be a bit uncreative and leaves me trying to dab the monitor. i wont knock it tho as my creative block will most likely thicken if i do. besides, my 'approve and encourage mode' regulates my response ; err. 1329.001; GoOD JoB. KeEp iT Up.
Rusty - that is one ill spod. looks speedy-ish. id love to see a clean cartoony one...as you said your animator, i know its in ya. as for me being an animator..nya. i took a course a couple summers ago in 2-d 3-d animation and the 2-d part was a real workout for me. its too much work for me. i love cartooning tho :)
Zipp-zopp - your lighting and value skills are really showing...the practice looks like its paying off. dont stop now. mind you, Oblio had a good point..your lines look real sharp in places. i can tell thats how you work..fast and linear..id say study some of retro's stuff and try blocking some curvy shapes, and then doing linear lines in them. hope that makes sense.
Jhibbs - FANTABULOUS as always. Q: how long does it take you on average to do one of those?
Retro - your pencil broke? what the hell kinda excuse is that?? lol...no pressure. NOW SHOW US SOME SPODS! just messin.
Keyth - great spod...great great gumby. howabout something different like a full lit one? challenge yourself a bit maybe. seems like you can throw down those half-lit ones with the greatest of ease. envious i am.
J.D. Hillberry - i'll say it again. simply amazing! you know..you strike me as a person that could be more internet savy...like..i dunno..changing your name to say.. J DAWG or BIGberry or somthing. yeh, thats right...pay attention to my advice, its obvious i know all. right? hmmm.
Oblio - great as always. hey speed demon, you gonna have any time one day to give us a finished one? yeaaah, i can really talk.
Lionel - nice. quick, and nice.
now i shall go stand in front of the fishtank and extract some creativity. wish me luck. *glub glub* :rolleyes:
January 15th, 2003, 11:54 PM
My wife says this looks just like me...I just think it looks like crap...maybe I look like crap hehe...it's late
January 16th, 2003, 01:32 AM
A lot of improvement there mindy. Certainly one of your best.
Wow! your married? I never knew that?
January 16th, 2003, 02:20 AM
jd nice job on that one, reminds me of the one i did ahile back, although mine was not nearly as cleanly done or fully rendered. did you draw it first and then redraw it?
lionel-colors seem a bit patchy on this one, to where its hard to determine a lightsource. but it IS a quicky
wazzo-thanx man. on average it takes me an hour or less. i havent spent over an hour on more than a few ocasions.
MCM-dont be so hard on yourself, it came out quite well. one thing-is that diagonal patch on your cheek a scar?
here's mine for tonight. aftertoying with other methods, i decided to stick with the style from earlier this month, 100% opacity all the time. the steps for this one will be in the step thread.
January 16th, 2003, 03:39 AM
January 16th, 2003, 03:53 AM
damn you look stoned retro!
....right..its the angle...riiiight
January 16th, 2003, 03:53 AM
heres another sketch of me i did on the bus with some ramblings i scribbled down while doing the sketch....
Ive been completely drained all day which was probably from me staying up late last night and sculling down glasses of scotch...deadlines coming up fast,and im completely stressed..
Hillberry,awesome man,awesome...wish i had patience like you,i get bored doing a drawing after an hour..lol.
Oblio,i like that drawing,alot more emotion and expression in it.
Wazzo,i like that negative on black effect,i might try it sometime.ya ill have a go at a caricature sometime,when im not feeling lazy..:)
MCM,finally ,..looks real nice to,nice goatie.
Lionel,i suck at what your able to do with colours which is different colours to show different depths..nice
Keyth,very nice charioscuro on that one,try one without the headphones on,your got a princess leia thing happening...;P..JK
Zippzopp...nice,you look like i feel at this time..
retro,nice how your shading around the forms,keep it up
Jhibbs ,i like your graphic style..the flat splashes of colour discribe the form of yer face really well..
January 16th, 2003, 04:43 AM
Sorry for missing last night, I needed a break after drawing hands and dogs for 5 hours. I made up for it with two tonight, although these aren't really anything stellar.
For a lot of you that asked, my last one was done on the computer, and I did severely screw up the back of the head. I think it may have been the way I rendered the hair, not sure :( Thanks for pointing it out to me though, I didn't really notice it until yesterday when MindCandy pointed it out.
MCM - Nice job on the last one bud. As Jhibb said, don't be too hard on yourself, that's the ultimate frustration cranker, god knows I learned that. Doubting yourself and getting completely frustrated all the time only serves to make art pieces fail, atleast that's been my experience. As a whole, this last one does look great, the ear form and the far-right nostril on the nose may be off though, but it is definitely an improvement bud.
Jester - Nice job proportionally, my only complaint is it seems to lack a center of focus and it seems flat, some varied lineweights in areas could really help to pop out the form and the center of focus. Great job bud.
Mia - Nice job on this, I think your right eye (viewer's left) became too stretched out. Other than that, it was a great effort.
Oblio - Excellent job on these last 3 bud. Your last one with the screaming portrait was my favorite. Great job.
Rusty - Nice job on these man. Thanks for that compliment about my that last colored one I did. I think that was best compliment I've ever had on one of my SP's, I really appreciated it. I really had a good laugh on the comments on your last sketch one you did.
ZippZopp - Stay the course, stay the course ;) Life usually throws a lot of curveballs, but you'll connect with one soon. As for the portrait, I would bring in the colors too evenly, everything seems too sharp and messy if you know what I mean. Soften up some areas. Trying bringing one area into focus, like let's say the eyes, then bring in some soft edges into the surrounding pieces to help pull that focus in. Of course, it's just an idea ;) Keep at it man.
Jhibbs - Good to see you back bud. I like these a lot, I commented on your work in the step-by-step thread, I really loved the linework you did for one of these pieces, awesome job.
Retro - Excellent job man, you really model the form well with lines, amazing job. I'd love to see you mix it up a bit though, you started trying to paint acouple months ago, I want to see you do it again :D Keep it up bud.
Keyth - Nice job man, as we said, it's good to have you back, now start cranking them out again :D Keep it up bud.
J.D. Hill - What can I say, phenomenal, I remember flipping through your book when I went to Border's and you have an amazing skill with the pencil and charcoal. I had to do a double-take on this one, I first thought it was black and white photo of a sketch :D We are privileged to have you here, thanks.
Lionel - Some of this SP became flat, especially on the forehead. I think the color became too patchy. Nice job for a quicky though, keep them coming bud.
Wazzo - No, definitely don't think you were being an ass. I'm extremely appreciative of any input. I understand what you mean though, I feel that way a lot about critiquing works, it's a hard act to deal with :) These construction highlight lines and the black eyes give this SP a weird vibe, I really like it.
Ilex - Your last SP is beautiful. It has a latin flair to it, very nice work.
There we go, have a goodnight everyone, enjoy your Thursday's.
January 16th, 2003, 06:36 AM
Heres a coloured up version of the sketch..about 40 mins to do....
Thanks blackhawk,i like that second one better,it really works well around the eye area,..highlights really make it work..
January 16th, 2003, 07:09 AM
ilex, very beautiful, love the red on the jawline and the red&yellow under the right eye. good reflected light under the nose as well. The style reminds me of an artist mmmm I think Kees van Dongen
Jester, the quick ones are really working, perhaps if you don't have time to think, it comes out right :)
Oblio, the hairline seems too high, the skull is a bit big for the features. It feels very 3D though. The big headed&wide neck distortion works on the yawn/screem one though.
Rusty, there's a bit of a vicious circle that happens, If I choose green, as a background the more green I paint the more I get a green screen glow on my face, hence the very greenhighlights :)
So glad we can see your pics now, good job reworking the old selfportrait, the bus one is great for a from memory one, and it has some nice linework as well. The distortion really helps the mood in your last one.
ZippZopp, the portraits get hard then they get easy and then hard again. the redbacground one the far eye isn't far enough back. The nose values are good. good luck with the job hunt
jhibbs, good to se you so active, thanks for the tip about taking the green to the paper edge. the forehead on the greybackground one is a tad large. Your value perception is getting pretty good there. Good work with the 100%opacity brush, might give it a try myself. Interesting graphical backgrounds as well.
retro, Mmmm fluid lines.
keyth, uhm I can't fault this one, except perhaps ... that it looks alot like some of your previous ones.
J.D., amazing skill with which you introduce yourself. I admire your patience and observation skills. You know of course you'll have to keep it up and post the same quality regularly :evilbat:
Lionel, funny monalisa smile you've got going there on the tired one, too many blood bubble baths then. the ear is too low.
wazzo, I like the colours in the eye sockets, forehead and ear. This one looks so different to your others.
MCM , good job on the nose and forehead, must say you don't look too happy, just open up your first one and put it nexto this and you'll feel much better. the nose to chin length may be a bit short.
Blackhawk, the first one doesn't look like you much, the hand is pretty good on the second one.
and now inspired by keyth's low value usage
January 16th, 2003, 07:30 AM
I normally don't do this.. but....
:jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1: :jump1:
BLACKHAWK, that last entry is fantastic!
January 16th, 2003, 09:18 AM
I really enjoyed lookin and the last two pages! It's a pleasure to see the improvement, the expression - aaahh wonderful!
January 16th, 2003, 09:40 AM
Yeah jhibbs its a scar from some skin diseases I had while I was in high school...I looked like a side show freak for a good two years. Taught me a lot.
January 16th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Very big eyes, wide face, out of contrast (touched on photoshop)... here is my todays sh....... stuff
As always, i started seeing what was wrong when it was almost finished....
Iīll comment yours later, iīve to go now...
January 16th, 2003, 03:34 PM
thanks a lot to those who commented on my last one.
mia..i don't know kee van dogen (i am going to look him/her up when im finished here, though) but the artist i was directly trying to emulate is Tamara de Lempicka (http://www.tragsnart.co.uk/arthub/lempicka/lempicka.htm) . the two paintings of hers i was referencing are Girl in Green with Gloves and Saint-Moritz. i just discovered her that day and am infatuated with her and her work and when i get more time i will explore her style more.
gah i have to go to work. i need like 5 more hours added to each day. who do i need to speak with about that?? :confused:
January 16th, 2003, 05:20 PM
You emulated that style and really made it your own ilex...bravo...you went a little bit softer than her...so I guess your style would be described as even softer cubism hehe. Keep up the good work...your stuff is fresh and unique.
January 16th, 2003, 05:46 PM
ilex, yeah it is tamara de lempicka I was looking for but couldn't remember the name, when I was looking for it I found Kees van Dongen and he also reminded me of your pic. extra 5 hours would do nicely, as long as no-one knows I have them. put me on the list as well please.
January 16th, 2003, 06:44 PM
i'll comment tomorow. :zzz:
January 16th, 2003, 08:48 PM
This too a while so no time to comment now. I will try and write some stuff tommorow :)
January 16th, 2003, 09:10 PM
my second sp. I'm not mad or anything. I just wanted an interesting pose!:p
January 16th, 2003, 10:18 PM
This is the first self port that I've done in well over a year. It didn't turn out that well, but I'll do another soon.
January 16th, 2003, 10:30 PM
blah....my time for doing work for myself is slowly dwindling. i think i'm about to get a job and i have some other stuff goin on, so i'll be in and out, posting when i can.....here's last nights
tarwater: not too shabby....i'm sure a little practice will have you doing some good ones
iwasink: cool portrait, i like the expression
lionel: nice job with this one, i like the way its painted and those hints of green are great
oblio: nice one, not crits...looks spot on
jaku: i'm familiar with that problem, you work on it, it looks good all the way through, you finish and then spot the problems! overall though its pretty good, a little more practice and you'll be fine
miasmak: nice! very moody, i like it
rusty: i love it! i wish i could do stuff like that, nice job
blackhawk: great job as usual, no crits, thanks for the words of encouragement! i appreciate it!
retro: i love your style....top notch work!
jhibbs: i really like that approach you are using, i'm going to have to give it a shot
January 17th, 2003, 12:03 AM
I return! (although i doubt anyone noticed i was gone )
In December when i stoped it was because i was learing flash so i could work on a website. Now i don't know how many of yuo guys live in canada and had to do 40! hours of community service but i get to do this website for my hours which is a good deal i think. And the after that and now im doing a whole load or static meshes for my brother for this mod he and now i am working on Here (http://www.unrealwarfarex.com/redorchestra/). But now im going to try and get back into it agian.
This one is a quick mark one(god some 10,30,50,70% Prisma color cool grey marker on the weekend) First marker try so not very good, so C&C and TIps Wanted!
January 17th, 2003, 02:31 AM
blackhawk-yea i agree, i was quite close to leaving it at the second step. maybe ill try one like that next time. dont be too hard on yourself, the first one has really good form around the nose area. I really like the second one there, it has a really strong sense of light, and the lines add alot of volume. maybe even push the surface contour lines more next time? might be interesting.
iwasink-good expression, i get tired of the same old thing alot also, but wierd expressions make my face hurt with how long i take :p not sure how i like the whole floating head thing though.
zippzopp-yes definitely try it. dont use opacity AT ALL. you have to force yourself to pick out all the midtones and transitions and everything. tough at first, but its great help though. dont get discouraged if the first few look like (*&^*, mine did but i didnt post those ones :P
miasmak-thanx, i often feel a bit guilty about the backgrounds, cuz i just put them in at the end, but i guess they work. and id definitely say to try the 100% opacity, it helpd me see and choose colors more than anything else ive done.
lionel-you look kinda like a little boy in, er, both of them :p. probably from overall enlarged features on a smaller rounded face. good color choice though.
retro-great as usual, still id like to see a different pose. keep it up.
rusty-wow great stuff, the color makes it come together nicely, it has alot of character.
hexal-it seems to lack form beneath the skin (no bones?) areas like the spot on the forehead are starting to work though.
kinda looks a bit more like a propaganda poster than i was aiming for (not like thats a bad thing).
January 17th, 2003, 03:42 AM
i'm not too happy with these
January 17th, 2003, 04:23 AM
retro - they seem fine to me.
jhibbs - lovely.
Hexal - welcome back. MORE!
ZippZopp - well... don't tell me about the time. I already have to do other stuff AFTER the job. I'm editing a book (QuarkXpress), working on a private project, do my studies/SP's and take care of my girl. The last two are a daily sure - the other ones must fit in the schedulle at least 2 times a week each. Not to mention that it takes me one full hour to get home from work. I think i'll die young :)
tarwater - welcome friend. I feel honored to have you aboard for a while. I'll suggest some eyes alignment, forehead retouch, ear repositioning and.. well.. another try :) (don't mind me - i'm just the local joker)
iwasnik - nice approach. That right eye (left in pic) seems a bit.. strange.
lionel - doll face :D maybe the nose a bit too long. I might be wrong though. How is the drawing going? Maybe a painted new one soon with more rouggh edges? Your paintings are very nice but they all have a soft feeling to them. Not that is bad or anything - but i would like to see something else for a change - you know. ;)
January 17th, 2003, 06:34 AM
I really failed on this one badly, it's muddled, it's confused, it's everything it shouldn't be. Blah.
Sorry for no comments tonight, I'm really frustrated and tired tonight, I hate feeling this way.
January 17th, 2003, 06:47 AM
hey friend.. you have reposted one :confused:
get some sleep ok?
January 17th, 2003, 06:55 AM
heres one i knocked out in 15 mins,aggressively painted...Ive tryed not to use any highlights on the flesh but to keep it the same brightness as the background..........
Jaku,scary man,has a micheal myers(halloween one not austin powers mike.lol) empty eyed look..
i still like that one blackhawk,forms discribed real well.
nice jhibbs,has a graphic poster art feel to it when i look at it.
Zipp..put some eye balls in there,its freaky lookin..:eek:
Lionel,dont take this personally you remind me of a little dog i booted up the arse once cause it tryed to rip my toes up..lol..i dont know what there called,but there little Hairy,yappy things....awesomely done SP man,love the colours,wish i could get my skin tones to look like that
I love that SP mia,no improvement its great as it is.....
January 17th, 2003, 09:08 AM
Blackhawk: I really bed to differ that you failed with that one. All go need to do is add a small number of details and a few hard edges and it will pull the whole sp together. Hmm is that the one you mean't to post as it looks like you posted it earlier :).
retro: Even you failiours are awesome :). The look like that have got a little grey in places. Your stuff always seems to look better when you can see the pencil marks.
jhibbs: Ops I deleted one :) was having troble posting :). I like the way you are using opaque brushes. Really good practice :). As and addition exercise you might want to try adding some more half tones. It would be interesting to see how smoth you can get your tones just by laying similar colors side by side. Judging by how you should try to not blend oil paints I recone the same holds true for digital so opaque brush are a good way of stopping you doing it.
Hexal: Can't be any help as I have never used markers at all. As far as you drawing goies try to be careful about the shapes like the end of the nose. Really try to see the shapes that is makes.
ZippZopp: I know the feeling I have a job and it is never easy to find the time to do a self portrat at the same time :). I gave up doing preity much everything except watching t.v. when I started this job after I left Uni but I have got used to it and am getting better at finding time to do stuff like drawing rather than being a zombie in front of the tv.
tarwater: That is a really nice drawing. Possibly the head is a little small but very nice all the same.
iwasink: Interesting poses rock don't they :). A few tips that I find useful when painting. When painting things like lips that are round don't try and shade them in by putting a dark and a light and blending them into each other just color them all in dark and then put in the highlights. Generally the extra half tones are completely unneccesary and take away from the 3Dness of it. You will also find they look more wet as wet thing have much more of a highlight (You will have more highlight as your shading will make the color lighter round the highlight and make it look more dull) than dry things. try to get some more reds into your palete as they will make you r face look more alive and lastly either paint you portrate on a dark back ground of make sure you color all of your canvas or make sure you cover all of your canvas as the white of the canvas is showing through which is creating highlights that are causing problems.
Oblio: Your proportions are looking much better. Be cerful of the flowting head ;). I would like to get a few more hard edges in my portrats. I am not very good at controlling the hardness/softness of my edges the camel hair brush that I use in painter just seems to create soft edges all the time and I can't seem to stop it doing it. Maby I should try a different tool but I haven't found any of the other brushes I really like. I have been doing drawing as I have been basing my paintings of them but I haven't been posting them. I guess I should ;). I haven been trying to improve on my color atm. I was trying to see if I could paint some more realistic portrates with better coice of color but I can't seem to nail it :/. I still get very styleised colors which although I rather like painting with thouse colors is not what I am aiming for :).
ilex: When I saw that sp I though you were trying to emulate Tara de lempkina so . I have a book about her somewhere but I haven't looked at it for a while :/.
Jaku: The important thing is that you you see what is worng and make a note of it so you don't make the same mistake next time :).
Rusty: That new one is very cool and only took 15 mins damm :). I do have far to much hair atm might have to get it cut of as it it starting to get on my nerves :). You have some cool atitude going in touse picutres keep it going
miasmak: I like that self portrat. Might be helpful to use a larger brush and get down mor largs masses of color as thouse small brush strokes detract from the form slightly.
January 17th, 2003, 10:17 AM
What a busy week! And my parents are going to visit me this weekend - you know what this means (refurbishing my flat, sort of...). Thus, no comments. Sorry. But you all did very inspiring portraits! And thanks for those who gave comments on mine - I read them all (and tried to take them to heart). Funny, isn't it, jhibbs, that when you wrote that I never seem to miss one I get sloppy?! :)
I wasn't satisfied with the first (top left) so I tried another, and another (clockwise).
Have a nice weekend everybody!
January 17th, 2003, 03:44 PM
well i tried to do this one in under 20 min because all mine take like 2 hours. i at least did it in under an hour. heh. :rolleyes: :cry:
zippzopp: that last one really scares me :blue: but im glad to see you doing something different
hexal: how could you see with your eyes closed??!!! :D
jhibbs: i think the text really adds to this one. it wouldn't be the same without it. :thumbsup:
retro: what i always love about yours are the textures on the surfaces you work on. :rock:
blackhawk: you silly :hello!: you totally didn't fail on this one. it has such an air of mystery to it. i wonder why his ear is red. and i like it.
rusty: you just creep me out in general... :fruit: but i always enjoy your portraits. i love how you didn't use any highlights in the face but still managed to make it appear as if you did...
jester: your ports always seem so "liney" -for lack of better a better term... :conehead; . i think it would be good for you to try to do some and not allow yourself to use any lines.
for everyone else:
January 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM
Jester, keep going ink isn't easy, personally I am to chicken to try it at the moment, can't live without
Lionel, Thanks for the helpful comment
Rusty, very novel approach to yours
Blackhawk, I wouldn't say you fail at all! you just look sooo tired.
Retro, how about some paint man
jhibbs, propaganda or not, I like it
ilex, aaargh she's bleeding from her eyes ... uh sorry its only the mascara that's running, loose(in the good sense) and energetic I like the textured background as well
January 17th, 2003, 04:11 PM
I hit my 4 month mark this past wednesday...Somehow I feel that after drawing for 120 stinkin days I should be much better than this...oh well...I will keep pushing.
I looked in the mirror and painted all the things I saw:
mia - I am getting a red x...but I can say this...your stuff lately has been phenomenal...you have been getting so much better...I looked at the stuff on your site too...awesome!
ilex - awesome as usual. Colors are great! Although I think learning to draw exactly from life is important...I have to say...*moves closer and whispers*...I like your experimental portraits a whole lot better than if you were to just do lifelike stuff all the time. Keep up the good work.
jester - Keep it up bro...one thing...make sure you are thinking and concentrating before you start...clear your mind...close off your left brain and start to see. Keep up the good work man.
lionel - Your poses have gotten exponentially better...I love the latest kissy face one heheh. Great job.
Rusty - What can I say?...moody...unique...I love it!!!!! Only word of crit might be that the cheek looks a little distended...awesome stuff man...you rock!
Oblio - You said something a little while back that has still stuck with me...looking at everything as a value study...I am trying to do that now...thanks for staying on me.
blackhawk - look at this one!!!! The lighting looks so freakin realistic...man I love the ones you hate! The other one you hated I loved as well hehe. Keep posting crap I love it!
retro - Nice angles man...keep it up.
jhibbs - you have gotten so much better since I first saw your portraits...You are going to be great painter...heck you are already. Keep it up man...seriously you have improved so much in the 4 months I have been drawing and on this board...inspiring!
Hexalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll - I was wondering when you were going to come back! We rookies have to stick together man! Look at this one! So so so so so much better than your others. You made serious progress with this last one. Keep pushing though man...stay at it...do a study of your face every single day...do it!! Good to see you back.
Zipp - sorry to hear that man...that stinks. I hate when life crowds out the fun. Try to keep your head up...keep going bro.
tarwater - looks awesome man...I saw your picture in that one thread and this looks a LOT like you. Keep up the good work man...I love your style.
iwasink - Nice pose heheheh...It's funny to see your picture and then see a self portrait hehe...keep it up bud. Yeah I've been married for a year and a half. Got married when I was 21...my wife is awesome.
jaku - This one isn't bad at all! The eyes are a little bit big but great drawing man...keep it up!
January 17th, 2003, 05:40 PM
Well, you've got to start somewhere. First art post here. This self portrait isn't 100% true to me, biggest difference - I don't have black hair. Otherwise, it's not too, too far off.
January 17th, 2003, 05:45 PM
This is really good! I love the way you rendered the jewels in the headband...they look great. Welcome to the boards...post more it looks awesome! That is a great painterly texture you have achieved as well.
January 17th, 2003, 06:35 PM
MCM: Just checkin' out the latest & greatest here and I see that you're improving by leaps and bounds. I can only imagine how much better you'll be 5 or 6 months from now. Keep at it, man, you're making significant progress.
Turokess: Beautiful! Way to make an entrance with a bang! I look forward to seeing more of your work.
January 17th, 2003, 07:44 PM
Hey monkeys! what's up?
MindCandyDandy: thanks for your comments a couple of pages back. You said it takes you hours and hours to do one and it still looks crappy. You are progressing nicely. i've been drawing a bit before i started doing these so it's easier to pick up. just keep pumping away at it!!! don't worry, you are learning.
Wazzo: Thanks for the comments! keep'em com'n.
rusty: thanks man! love that sketch a couple pages back. "try one with out headphones"? are you crazy?!?:p
Blackhawk: Thanks man. good to be back. i love that ghostly one with the red ear. very haunting. me like scary stuff.:p.
mia: thanks for the comments:chug: . "i can't find the faults in this one". trust me. the faults are every where!;) .
everyone else including the almighty OBLIO: the stuff is looking great. KEEP'EM COMING:chug: :chug: :chug:
January 17th, 2003, 08:48 PM
My first shots at a CG self portrait, first one about 40 minutes, 2nd one about 30. Should i slow down? my detail is suffering because of it. Well here they are:
Mindcandy, youve improved greatly for only 4 months, you should be proud.
Kyeth, amazing job as always, and on the same token, damn you and your skills :)
Everyone else, excellent excellent, sorry i cant reply more, im late for work!
January 17th, 2003, 09:13 PM
three words: get a haircut :)
January 17th, 2003, 10:41 PM
Heres mine for today. The nose is kind of stange i think.
@Mind: Thanks, yours are GReat now!
@ ilex: I used a camera like i did today. I got a crapy one for christmas and I find it gets me to actualy draw instead of putting it off becuase i don't want to sit on a cold tile floor(one of the more comfortable places that i have a mirror :bash:)
January 18th, 2003, 03:56 AM
blackhawk-hey its not that bad, the form is still there,in everything that is except the ear......
lionel-yea its the only thing ive found that actually helps out my oil stuff. and ill definitely try putting in more midtones, theres a decent amount in tonights.
jester-hey you still got them done, right? and more than just one in this case.
ilex-thanx, theres a warm-cool thing starting to happen in this one, maybe push that even further next time.
MCM-thanx alot, i forget how much is behind me alot of the time and just feel like im always struggling, that seems like you right now too. youve come a LOOOONG way yourself, go look at some of your older ones compared to your more recent ones and you'll see.
keyth-great to see you back, i hope its permenant :P amazingly solid work as usual, although the neck doesnt seem to be quite enough to hold up your head there.
helltaxi-the last thing you need to worry about is detail, literally. (i mean for everyone in general). keep it as loose as possible until you start to feel it, dont get caught up in things like eyes (something i did a TON in the beginning). stuff like the bottom one will help out more than you realize. (ive actually got one just like that here http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/nov13.txt ). when you have the whole form and proportions there, THEN start on detail. of course this is the way i learned and have been taught, feel free to try your own methods, and anyone can agree/disagree.
hexal-it seems like you are focusing too much on each individual feature, rather than the form. when drawing, try not to think about the names (like nose) instead look and observe the shapes of the light and shadow carefully. you have already started to do the second part, as it shows in areas like the forehead and the overall form of the face. next time try to not make any lines, rather just make areas of shade to show the form. you look as though you are getting close to something and i hope what ive said can help you out. also, places like walmart sell really cheap closet lenght mirrors, a good investment :P i finally got one after using a 4x6" shard from a broken mirror for 4 months.
oblio, rusty, miasmak, thanx alot.
alrighty, enough yappin. about 2 hours, the longest ive spent on an SP ever, i believe.
January 18th, 2003, 07:00 AM
jhibbs, colours and values are looking good, the 100% opacity exercises are paying off
Hexal, good to see you here again.
HellTaxi, welcome another new face, albeit eyeless ;)
Keyth, so long as you know where the faults are ...
Turokess, welcome to the addiction good to have another member for the girlgang, spectacular intro pic, keep it up
MCM, thanks for the comments, I like the mood of this fragmented one, please don't be disheartened ...
January 18th, 2003, 07:08 AM
Hmm, as to why it looks like I reposted the same one previously, I named the last one over a previous SP file... d'oh!!! Sorry for the confusion.
Sorry, I'm not really of much use tonight in commenting, I'm way too tired. My brother told me that I was wide awake just staring at my TV in my bed last night at 7 in the morning, even though I fell asleep at 4, I think either my body or my mind is refusing to sleep anymore, it's scaring the shit out of me. I'll make up for it with comments tomorrow night, great job everyone.
January 18th, 2003, 07:35 AM
This SP was inspired by a famous photo of James Dean strolling down times square..Ive always admired Jimmy Dean,so this kinda SP i was bound to try sometime..I spent 10 minutes staring into the mirror without drawing a line b4 i started it
and tryed my hardest to do a similar sorta grimace look JD has on his face in that photo..About an hour to do this SP..
nice one Blackhawk,line work flowing around the forms,keep it up.
Jhibbs,another excelent SP...welldone
Helltaxi,very well done fer your first CG SP...my stuff was complete crap when i first started painting on the comp..
Turokess,awesome work..youve takin everyones thunder with a awesome SP on yer first post..lol
keyth great as always...theres those bloody headphones again..:P
MCM,..great looking personal image of yerself,..why so hard on yorself mate,your talking as if a person can become an accomplised artist in a few months or something..lol.it just dosent work that way..years of practice.. your stuff is looking great for so short a time of drawing IMO,just like Oblios work..
Mia,the eyes,nose,chin and mouth on that sketch work great its just the rest,they look a little vaguely placed/drawn..
nice loose strokes there ilex,almost looks furiously painted....sweet..lol
January 18th, 2003, 10:38 AM
aargh its all so strange, where are my familiar tools ... is there a keyboard shortcut for the eyedropper ...
Mmm its so small its so free ...
January 18th, 2003, 02:05 PM
Today is my 25th birthday. :chug: :chug: Everyone is invited!
Everyone is doing a great job here!
miasmak_ I like a lot this last one. Open canvas is great.
Blackhawk_ your new skin-suit is great! :p
keyth_ great, as always
mindycandy_ those last ones are great! great improvement, but try more contrast, without fear. try to do black shadows and white light, then add values...
ilex_ donīt worry about the time... youīll get faster and faster as you do more and more portraits.... keep it up!
Iīm going to have some beers now!!!! :D :beer:
January 18th, 2003, 02:40 PM
mia: i think this one is very nice..i like the color scheme...especially the left side with the lighter oranges/blues/greens. can you tell me where you got open canvas? i got it once but the text was all little rectangles even after i told it to talk to me in english...
rusty: damn all i see is the red x..and im quite curious about what this one looks like.... its funny that you say mine looks furiously painted because that's how i've always described the way i paint traditionally...
blackhawk: your ports really seem to be taking on a new direction... im very curious to see where your sleeping problem leeds you with them.
jhibbs: im so glad you noticed the warm/cool thing! at the near end of it when i was doing some of the background i was really thinking about using cool in the back and warm in the front to make the front come out but the front was a little on the cool side itself so it wasn't as effective as if i had planned it from the beginning..which i will definitely do next time... i really like the contrasts you have going in this one.. especially the area around the nose for some reason.
hexal: the camera definitely seems to be helping you out.. now you can focus on what you're doing rather than how unfcomfortable you are :) . i think what jhibbs said will be very helpful to you. keep it up!
keyth: great as per the usual! the floating head thing really creeps me out though :D
turokess: welcome! nice sp! i looked at your website and you have some really nice work there, too.
mcm: i find this one is very interesting! now you're not only working on drawing a face but you're putting it somewhere and giving it some sort of character that makes me wonder who this person is and what he's feeling... i get so bored with just making a portrait that looks exactly like me - i know i know it's good to be able to do that but i swear to your god that i get so excited and giddy when i have the power to make myself into something i can't be in real life...like a redeyed pinkfaced creepy girl, or a girl from a different era, etc. to me that's what these sp's are about. in this one i'd like to see more of the texture you did on the face applied to the shirt area...
k. have to get ready for work now. boo! ...i mean yay!
January 18th, 2003, 05:31 PM
wow.. great stuff been around lately. I've been away for 2 daysbut here I am back to the bone of it.
I've went for a cartoon look - not there yet but.. i'm working on it.
Jaku - hold your dogs mate.. i'm friendly. Watch the eye line. Also.. the values - i know that the light was probably THAT way falling.. but it isn't helping the picture in the end. Try to work that a bit. Place your own light just to reveal the portrait better. Oh.. and.. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :chug: whipe out that mad look from your face. You're young again ;) :D
Mia - I dare you - pick the pencil and the paper. take a break from digital.. let's say a week. What do you say? Comme on.. i'll be here EVERY day for feedback!
Rusty - damn man.. i can't see it. I'll comment when it will work.
Jhibbs - man.. you work only with brushes with no opacity? Your SP's are very strong yet.. they look "fabricated a bit" - not that it is a bad thing or so. I love them - it's your own true style. Yet.. i was wondering how you realy look and i have problems receiving YOU under yours SP's. e.g. - your eyes.. have almost allways a dark contour like you would use make up. I hope you get my point. Please take it tha easy way. Once again - i love your work (God I wish i'll paint like you) but i'm willing to see you doing soemthing else. :chug:
Hexal - you're improving big time. YET.. you don't look enough. Measure, measure, measure. Take a spot light (a desk lamp, something) and put it on one side - it will reveal the mases. You HAVE to understand the FORMS that construct your face. YOu are on the good path here.
Also - mind that "hairy line" you have - this comes from the fact that you are unsure of yourself. Find a marker - balck one - and do some drawings with it. A thick one!
A good start - is with your eyes - start with the eyes - make sure they stare back to you. KEPP IT UP! Remember - we're here and you can count on us!
Helltaxi - i know it eating time - but pay some more for once.It will repay you.
Blackhawk - i'll try one in that new style of yours mate. Keep it rolling.
MR.. KEYTH.. so.. you're back in the hood again. Ok.. then i'll try to ask you for a favor - since your SP's fava a soft flavour.. i'll be pleased to see a SHARP one. Well?
(BTW - new brushes will do too ;) )
Turokes - my lady... nice to see you've got your "premerre" here. It took a while i see. ;) Lovely.. i'll shut up for now. Until our NEXT meeting... (meaning that I'm looking forward to see some more.) :D
MCM - oh friend, 4 months you say? I'm not keeping track of the time. Time NOT important - only progres important. An you have your share here too.
On that notice.. take a lightspot and USE IT. Also.. come on.. put more work on them. How much did that one took?
BTW - my next "saying" that go with that: "when you're sick of value studies.. just put the values out of your head. You will only then start to learn the value of the values." ;)
January 18th, 2003, 07:23 PM
happy B-day goes out to Jaku. happy 25th.
mia, jhibbers, oblio-wan, rusty(i can't get the pic), blackhawk(the sleepwalker), everyone else.
KEEP EM COM'N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
oh, and go over to the still life thread dammit!!!
just a quick one...kinda goofy.
January 18th, 2003, 09:09 PM
pic should be workin now,i think....the head i need to tilt a little more,and the shoulders need to be a little more hunched up..
hahaa,i love those oblio..very cool,specially the second one.
great thing about doing caricatures is you can get alot of emotion into them,but of course you lose a bit of realism unless you can balance the 2...One interesting thing you can try is to ask someone who knows you really well to discribe you and expressions you make then draw from those notes..try real hard not to stray from there discription or else itll be pointless..
nice SP jaku,happy birthday m8...23 yrs 4 me soon...
Keyth, theres those bloody headphones again..jk,nice sketch ,eyes r nicely drawn..
Mia,the green in that one works much better than the other green one you did a few pages back..,the eyes ecspecially on this one r very welldone...NJ.
January 19th, 2003, 02:19 AM
rusty- yea i definitely got the JD vibe from this image, nicely done. looks a bit blurry though.
oblio-i get what youre sayin about the outlined eyes, its from my massive eyelashes which have been brougt up several times now. theyre long/thick enough to look like makeup. what did you mean by 'fabricated' though? as for 'trying something else', if you meant other than SP's im gettin there, its alot of work as a student, however i just posted one in the sketches thread. if you meant other than the way ive been painting, its been very successful for me, this has easily been my best month. i dont intend to do it permanently, but it is helping massively for the time being and im enjoying the results for a change. dont mean to sound like im blowin up on you or anything, its just for the first time i feel im getting somewhere with color accuracy and overall style, and alot of people dont care for it.
was going to try and render this one more fully, but i got interrupted on several occasions and for long periods of time :mad:
Wizard of KOZ
January 19th, 2003, 04:03 AM
The real world is looming on the horizon....
This was inspired by Daarkens "Clawing" SP that he did a while back
January 19th, 2003, 04:12 AM
jhibbs - great linework, you have such apealing linework. im a lines guy thru and thru. who cares ifya didn finish it, looks great still.
keyth - i like that one, nice flavor to it. simple and such.i know how you feel/felt about too much spodding become more like splodding..i am taking a little break myself...altho upon looking at yours and jhibbs spods i feel that surge of inspiration. thx guys. a little something for when it seems i got nothin.
oblio - great caricature style on that second one, keep it up man.
jaku - sorry i missed it - happy belated b-day. one of your best portraits i think....maybe its just my thirst for them lines i dunno. i like it.
miasmak - now that...is really good. aside from the obvious proportion issues, the lighting, color palette and'planar' style painting really really looks great. good stuff. i like the right (lit) side.
rusty - altho i cannot recall the james dean pose (before my time...dont gimme that 'its timeless' schpeel, your prolly right, i just never ...yah. nuff said)...great expression neverless...regardless of who's wearing it. props, keep it up.
blackhawk - i think i have similar symptoms. altho i COULD sleep, i dont want to...something to do with my eternal 'bleh' feeling. change, in a big way will do me a world of good.
-everyone else- keep splodding! :fish:
January 19th, 2003, 04:14 AM
wizard of koz
that is by far the illest spod ive seen from you. im impressed! great work man.
January 19th, 2003, 04:18 AM
January 19th, 2003, 03:27 PM
I haven't done a self portrait in while, so i thought i'd whipe one out today. That's not the truth...why do i lie? I had to do one for class that's due in a few days. But...eh.
Good stuff...looks like everyone is getting better.
January 19th, 2003, 04:02 PM
did this yesterday at work. it reminds me of something or someone but i just can't put my finger on it....
brokencow: you nasty little liar you! hehe. i like tha pov. but boy that sure is a big hat you're wearing!
koz: im skeered!!
jhibbs: i actually like the unfinished look of it.
keyth: nice sketch. i like the rendering of the hair.
oblio dear those really creep me out!! :waves:
January 20th, 2003, 04:19 AM
new quick sketches from my sketch book,profile and straight forward SP...
great forshortening on that one broken cow,excellent shading as well..
Nice colours as usual ilex,this one just dosent grab me like your previous ones though.
Nice pose Wizard of Koz,..
Jhibbs i really like how you almost chisel the forms out with colour ,and the direction the strokes flow in,almost sculptural overall..sumthing i might have a go at..
January 20th, 2003, 03:21 PM
inspired by andrew and jason.
January 20th, 2003, 04:47 PM
Arrrghh, the phone again!
OMG! It's so much to comment on when one've been away awhile... I just start 20 posts back... Sorry for every one's I leave out because of this.
Hexal - congrats on that marker one - still a long way to go but you observed the shadows and you made a better outline of your head. The eyes are still placed too high. Try not to outline your nose with such harsh lines - concentrate on the darker areas and just draw them. Most people have a v-shaped indention on their upper lip, but some haven't. I'm not sure about you - but this should be a place to look at!
jhibbs - boah! I admire your latest style. It's very expressive. Yes, I still manage to do my self portraits somehow, though not only a daily basis any more (I always left out the weekends anyway but nowadays I'm too busy on some days, especially since there are so many flicks to see...)
Blackhawk - just accept your sleeplessness (my partner suffers from it regularly since his earliest childhood and tells me that it's best to ignore it, then sleep will come). Your tiredness shows in your portrait. I'm not sure but to me your right eye looks a bit too small.
Rusty - nice idea to do a JD one. The lips look strange though. The sketchy ones are just great!
miasmak - proportions are improving. I never dare to choose such colors as you do!
Jaku - you know the Pact of Wolves film? Sure reminds me of it! Looks great! Hope you had a nice birthday.
Oblio - I like the cartoonish ones (and here you were faster than I, I wanted to try something like this for a while but didn't feel "ready" to do so!). The first is better than the second, mainly because of the eyes. In the second one I like the way you drew the mouth and teeth.
keyth - sorry, I don't find anything to criticize... ;)
Wizard - I remember daarken's portrait from a while back. Yours looks great, too, but I would have liked to see more of your eyes (a tiny reflection perhaps).
Brokencow - :cool: cool angle, how could you stand to hold it for the time it took you to draw the portrait? Very good foreshortening, I wish I could do it like this! The one inspired by Andrew is great, too.
ilex - reminds me of someone, too. I'm not sure, probably a male character from a film, with scars across his face where the cheeks end in your drawing? As in miasmak's I admire your color choices.
January 20th, 2003, 05:24 PM
wow, I haven't posted in awhile. My website went down and I had nowhere to upload to, so I had no way of showing anything on here. so yeah, i got sick of it, and for now i have a geocities account.
Oh yeah, in case you don't remember me: 19 year old from Pittsburgh area. I'm good friends with Jhibbs, so... you should treat me nice since I'm friends with a regular here, right?! heh j/k
brokencow: you've improved a lot. that dark one with your face in shadow is freaking awesome. good work, dude.
keyth: i love you. all of your skillz are belong to me.
rusty and ilex: i usually like more realistic work, but, those cartoony/carictures are freakin awesome. cool stuff... i might try out a caricture sometime...
I'd go through and post replies to everyone... but... this is gettin long as is, so:
pics kinda blurry. but i like this one cuz it shows the scar on my face, which you can really only see in certain lighting conditions.
I wanted to try something like Andrew's latest portraits. So i did a base tone in watercolors. After that dried i used prismacolor pencils (straight in, i didn't use any pencils first) and then used white ink for the highlights. I like that look a lot... though I like when Andrew does it more! heh
This is last nights. I did it in oils on 16x20 inch canvas. It's only my second time using oils (first time was a little 6 x 8 or so oil sketch)... I HATE the colors, and i didn't pay attention to the anatomy, so the shoulder is WAY too small. But... hopefully I'll get better in time, eh. I think I'm gonna start doin all of my SPotD's in color, hopefully.
January 20th, 2003, 11:23 PM
great portraits everyone!
brokencow-you're getting good too fast!....awesome man
January 21st, 2003, 01:03 AM
Sorry I missed the last couple of days, I needed a break from doing Self-portraits.
I'll do comments later tonight, have some more stuff I need to get done first.
January 21st, 2003, 01:20 AM
January 21st, 2003, 04:16 AM
Heres one that i tryed something interesting with.the pencil sketch was originaly a self portrait, i redrew over it and merged it with and old man i remeber seeing a year or so ago in the city...He had such a magnificent face,very wrinkled,..bold brow,..deep set,calused grey eyes,the look of someone who had seen everything,been everywhere,.I had no sketchbook with me at the time so this i drew up from memory..i snapped the pencil a few times cause of how hard i scraped into this portrait...
The highlights and the colour of the paper i did in photoshop..
January 21st, 2003, 04:34 AM
i've tried something new - dry ink & oil pastels (painter)
I go now... :xx:
January 21st, 2003, 06:04 AM
Keyth - Thanks man. You can't believe how rough it's been for me trying to get a goodnights sleep. Sleepwalker is probably a very appropiate monicker. :D
Oblio - Your two cartoony ones were great, but the second one in your cartoony post scared the crap out of me with the way you did the eyes. I don't know why, but it reminded me of some insane psycho wearing a plaster mask. It was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw it.
Jhibbs - I notice the improvement that you've had, it's been great to watch. I still love that line drawing you did, I'd like to see you do one of those more fully to an SP, you have a lot of great character in just your pencil sketching work alone. Keep on at it bud.
Wizard - That clawing SP is your best yet, you must be doing a hell of a lot of work outside your SP's because just from the few that you posted, each one increased in skill 10 fold. Outstanding. I saved this one.
Brokencow - Incredible works man, I love both of them, but especially the prisma one, the foreshortening and the confidence in this SP, very nicely done. You've really improved greatly.
Rusty - This last one is interesting, it just fades in, nicely done. I especially like the hint of wrinkles in the eyes. BTW, that James dean pick is killer, it seems kinda of fuzzy, but overall you executed it very well.
Patton Art - Welcome back. Be mindful of your facial alignment. You render the features very well, but it looks like the jaw is out of alignment to the rest of the facial features in a few of your SP's. The jaw is difficult to draw correctly, I still have a lot of trouble with it, it's difficult for me and I've heard from other artists as well that they have a hard time getting the jaw right. Keep working at it though, good to see you back.
Benzo - Great portrait, good to see another from you.
Jaku - lol, Happy belated birthday. Sorry I didn't congratulate you on your birthday. The eyes and hair seem like they are out of alignment, but I love that jaw and chin. You gave it a really nice color and texture right on the chin, good stuff man.
Mia - The colors are nicely done on your opencanvas one, something is bugging me about the eyes though, I don't quite know what it is, maybe one eye is a different shape or sucked in toward the nose too far, I think it may be the left one (viewer's left). Keep it up.
January 21st, 2003, 04:57 PM
need more sleep...
January 21st, 2003, 05:43 PM
Damn Rusty, I like your stuff. Very confident line.
Hopefully you do some form of art for a living, yes?
January 21st, 2003, 11:27 PM
http://www.phantomarts.co.uk/freeimagehosting/painting 86 evil sp.jpg
I've been sick lately.
January 22nd, 2003, 12:31 AM
oh wow mcm that scares the crap outta me. i think it's the teeth that do it for me. well done well done. i do wish it were lightened up just a bit in some places but other than that it's pretty scary. :evilbat:
January 22nd, 2003, 12:45 AM
I was inspired so much by all of your work, brilliant. It convinced me I had to join this forum. Incredibly talented bunch here. Already you are challenging me to improve and step outside my comfort zone -
On doing this I realized I am beginning to look a lot more like the grandmother i didn't like, than I wanted to :mad: however...here is
January 22nd, 2003, 05:43 AM
What a terrible day today was, I'm going to thank god when it's over.
January 22nd, 2003, 09:42 AM
blackhawk - Sorry man....yeah I can see that in your face...sorry bro.
mojo - This is awesome. I really love the concept. I'm sorry you look like the bad grandmother :(
ilex - Thanks! I want you to know that I have taken a lot from the portraits you have posted up here. They are very free in their expression. I'm glad it scared you hehe...you are right about brightening up certain areas as well. Thanks again. :firedevil
oblio - I think this last one is really good. It shows the expression really well and the proportions are really good. The nose seems a bit undefined...great job bud keep it up.
January 22nd, 2003, 06:17 PM
i'll comment tomorrow.
Blackhawk - damn sorry man. fuck 'em. I'm here if you need me!
January 22nd, 2003, 06:25 PM
it feels so good to be back to pencil and traditional - i've already made tons of mistakes.
mojo - welcome (mind your right eye ;) ) Talk more tomorrow.
January 22nd, 2003, 06:40 PM
Blackhawk - terrible day made a nice angry portrait, so there's some good in all evil. I really like the one before on that structured paper, but is it possible that you ruined the eyes and decided to draw them black?
mojo - that mask portrait is a great idea. Reminds me of the bad stepmother in Snowwhite (so that's what your grandmother really was, eh?)
MindCandy - now, a joke or is my monitor just too dark? I can't see anything in the dark.
Rusty - very dark, too. I see what you remembered of that old man but would have liked to see a bit more.
benzo - did you have some champagne? Just asking because of the red ear - I always get red ears from that drink. ;)
Patton Art - all of yours have something catching, but I like the hatched one and the color one (last) best, however, can't really tell why.
Oblio - you sneaked in while I was writing. Hmm, hope this isn't blood on the first one. At least, hope it isn't YOUR blood ;) and that you got that guy ;). Both seem a bit rushed, but I have this problem of time currently, too.
And here's my portrait, a rather quick one again. And I wanted to change the pose so I tried to draw one with my head tilted back, however, I'm not sure whether I got the foreshortening right.
January 22nd, 2003, 06:48 PM
two days ago...
today... i didnīt take care of the proportions neither look too much at the mirror, so...
photoshop has better sense of color and contrast than me.... :(
welcome to new people.
I hope to get some time to comment everyones work. I donīt have so much free these days....
everyone is doing great job! :)
January 22nd, 2003, 08:47 PM
Sorry for the absense but been busy recently.
I though I would give the GIMP (www.gimp.org) a go to see how it was ;). Can't say my experiances were good as the windows version wouldn't work with my table to I had to turn of the table features. I am so used to having opacity for presure that I could cope with changing it manually so I decided to try to paint the whole thing in 100% opacity. Not a particually good one as I felt I was fighting the program all the way but hey I gave it a go :)
January 23rd, 2003, 10:09 AM
I was falling asleep as I did this one sorry guys...had to go to bed...we did 3 hours of of portrait drawing in my drawing I class...the model skipped out so we got to draw each other for 3 hours...everyone was moving a lot so it was good practice.
lionel - wow painting at 100 percent opacity...that is really rough. You did a good job. The head is a bit slanted but good job. Try some other color schemes.
jaku - I like the muted grey one a lot...looks really awesome. Your stuff is getting much more proportionate and you are taking much more care than I noticed in the past. You are getting much better. Keep it up man.
jester - hey bro that wasn't a joke hhehe...yeah it was really dark...so your monitor is probably set too dark to see it but it's there hehe. The foreshortening looks off on this one and I'm not sure (from your picture) if your chin is that pronounced. Keep it up.
oblio - I gotta say that I love your pencil drawings. They look great man. I should get back to analog...I am getting stuck I think. Keep up the good work. Is that blood on the one paper?
January 23rd, 2003, 10:50 AM
I regularly keep checking in here and there is notable progress all around :)
I beleive when you're drawing from life and you don't mind your model moving a lot is the result of finally seeing and registering what you see in shapes and not just form.
You're right MindCandyMan to say it's a good practice since it litteraly kicks your mind into *thinking* about what you're seeing and how it fits together on a 3d sense rather than solely on proportions approximations. Your memory is more prone to remember how you break down what you perceive into shapes rather than "the edge of the nose comes about at 7/12th of the face" because the model moves and changes all those proportions.. but the shapes stay the same ! Now the problema of perspective comes into play....
January 23rd, 2003, 06:54 PM
i just was trying to get convincing flesh tones...
Mindcandy_ Thanks!!!!!!!:D :D :D
Paint yourself a pointy ears and voila... you are a dark elf! :)
Your proportions seems to be getting tight on your last ones... keep it up! and thanks again!!! :D
Lionel_ Try that one with bigger shapes... let see what happens
Jester_ Thatīs neat portrait. Maybe your right eye is a bit little
Blackhawk_ itīs seems your worst days you get your better portraits. That last one is really great!!
mojo_ welcome aboard. Great idea but work the contrast (i should stop saying this, i think iīm a bit obsessed with contrast...)
rusty_ what can i say....... great!
January 23rd, 2003, 07:24 PM
comments in the morning!
January 23rd, 2003, 07:55 PM
Oblio: Damm hands and arms are a bitch to draw :/ I hope you found it easier than me ;)
MindCandyMan: Noticed the slanted thing about half way through but didn't have time to fix it :). That one is a little dark and I so simpathise with the falling asleep thing :)
Jaku: I will try doing some more ones at 100% opacity soon :). It seems like good practice. Try putting some more red into your flesh tones. It is always worth using the eye dropped on a photo for a bit ;)
This one seemed to draw itself I just sat back and realaxed :). I always seem to do better this way
January 23rd, 2003, 07:57 PM
Had some exams so i had to stop and study. But im back now.
A lot is messed up i can see. I need a lot of practice to get much better.
January 24th, 2003, 01:36 AM
here is another one - this time I used a photo as reference and it looks exactly like me - crooked smile and all -- so no- it is not a mistake ;) the previous one looked like me on a really really good day.
this one went altogether too dark, which i don't really like. My initial sketches were great (didn't save those) and I spent over 4 hours fixing, screwing up and fixing again.
but here is a smile for all of you serious and intense artist types.
January 24th, 2003, 04:38 AM
mojo - lovely green eyes :) Need more definition for my taste. It realy tells you've been fighting with this one. Looking forward the next one!
Lionel - no bro.. bitch here too. :)
Hexal - draw your axis friend.
MCM - your last two have no value range - if i squint my eyes you disapear = not good. I know you're after the mood but there is no mood without FORM! Push it!
Jaku - tones are a good search - but why to ignore the form and proportions? I realy love the one 3 days ago - superb! The hair line is too low - if you wanted your head twisted then the chin should go back - perspective problem. Otherwise... lovely!
January 24th, 2003, 09:11 AM
The discussion in foster's "earthbound" thread got me thinking about velasquez and how much he could imply without actually painting it. So I took that into account in this self portrait.
Oblio - You are right. Absolutely.
January 24th, 2003, 10:35 AM
I'm not sure whether I'll manage a portrait before the weekend. But being here anyway I thought I might start commenting first.
MindCandyMan - great idea to try this. I don't like it how you executed the eyes, only showing the irises in the dark but not the eyeball - gives you a kind of "mad" look. Also the mouth/nose alignment isn't right. But I know how difficult this is - I tried once to copy Hogarth's light studies (if you don't know the book - go and get it: Dynamic Light and Shade is one of his best books IMO) just white lines on black paper - it almost drove me mad! :mad: ;)
BTW I powered up the contrast and light on my monitor and voilā there was your portrait with the large teeth :D
mojo - great job, however a bit too fuzzy/blurry for my personal taste. What I really like is this sort of 1950s look
Hexal - this shows improvement again. Oblio gave you a good advice: build a sort of simple structure with all main guidelines and axises (plural?) first. Then try to overdraw this with your own features. This helps immensely to keep everything in place. Don't worry if the guidelines show through - mostly they don't disturb.
Lionel - I know this gesture, like it myself :) Great job on the fingers but not so great on the back of your hand. It looks rather flat. Very nice right eye. It looks like your little excursion todrawing did you good for painting, too. Perhaps I should try this vice versa! (BTW I used Gimp on my Linux system quite a while ago too. I liked it a lot - esp. the wide range of filters - but couldn't convince t to work with my Wacom either. This is what brought me back to Windows...)
Jaku - weird hairdo! :D Form and proportionwise I second Oblio.
Egerie - your are absolutely right. I always insist that my models may move within a certain range, i.e. watching TV and talking to someone from time to time and turning the head doesn't matter if I want to portrait someone. They mostly cannot believe this is possible, because usually artists seem to insist that the model has to be absolutely still.
Have a nice weekend and hope to see you on Monday!
January 24th, 2003, 12:29 PM
hi all, i'm getting back to do some sp's weekly. I also did some sp's the last month but i'm really not happy with anything i've drawn the last time.
But oblio forced me to post every drawing i make (sp's anyway), so blame him if i hurt your eyes :)
looks like everyone is getting alot better ;)
edit: oblio, thanks for attaching your pictures now :) i can see them, you rock, woohoo! great drawings!
January 24th, 2003, 04:03 PM
After 2hours looking at my ugly face i need to have some :beer: and look at some prety girls faces :D
see you tomorrow!!!
January 24th, 2003, 11:40 PM
Finally time to do a Portrait.
this isnt a self portrait but a portrait from memory of the old man i drew from a page back...
I drew this at work today during my lunch break took about 20 mins to do..done on Photoshop...This is also my first painting using a tablet which is a big leap from a mouse which is what i usually use,difference was imediate,..i need one.....bad..
Mojo, nicely done SP there but yeah would be nice to show more detail.strands of hair,sharpen up the eyes,even a few well placed highlights would lift that sucker of the page..keep it up ;)
Jaku,that last one is great,did you use a photo ref?,I say that because its a different direction from yer other portraits,.drawing/painting style even proportions of the face r dead on..Photo ref or not,its bloody good,:beer:
Hexal,try focusing on drawing proportions properly first,remember its a 3d object your drawing not a 2d,..Burne Hogarths anatomy books r a must ..Lighting\shadowing can always come later..try to get the nack of bone structure,how skin wrapps the face, where and how it wrinkles up,muscles beneath the skin,not nesesaryly your own head structure,but a standard\stock type of head,then adjust it to fit your own individual head shape..Im trying my hardest not to come off to harsh here,its all just constructive critisism..Advice i know will help you alot as it has myself..:beer:
MCM,that red one i like alot,almost has a Nosveratu(however its spelt)feel to it....nice approach on this lastest one
Jester,thats a nice sketch,it wouldnt hurt to model the nose a tad more as its laking a bit of form,seems flatter than the rest of the sketch.
Lionel,i envy your ability with colour,specially with skintones,ive never been good at using colour like that,i only see in black,grey and white..lol..,keep it up..,maybe try another style?...
Oblio,nice looking sketches there m8,black an white one from the previous page i like the most,keep it up..
MGH ,ya i trained as an animator(paper,pencil type not computer) when i was 18 fer 2 1/2 years and just started work at a small studio last year,im 22 now..as for SP /life drawings im self taught,influenced by nearly every artist ive read about....
Nice sketches Blackhawk,that angry one specially,Digital or traditional?,i can never tell now with all these programs out now..
January 25th, 2003, 11:50 AM
another B4 i crash,inspired by benzos latest entry..Im clean shaven 4 the first time in months.lol..
Back to using the mouse to do this one..My head kept changing position as i was looking in the mirror guess cause im tired.the ciggy of course i did last..around 30 mins to do...
January 25th, 2003, 06:56 PM
I was counting on you people to keep this place alive. If it waren't for Rusty, Jaku and coriat... the newcomers to say so.. this place would be EMPTY! Shame on you.
Thank ou guys!
Now... Rusty - the oldman's style rocks. I would love to see some wild expressions out of you. I don't know if you've been digging the threads here but we've had out tongue out period, our red noses period and so on. YOu might try some ;)
Jaku - the 2 hours paid off. a gread step ahead i'll say. I love the hair on the left side of the pic.. if you could take that detail to the whole sp you would kick out buts for a week.
Coriat - so... no weekend SP's buddy? you too have already made some big steps - yet.. the measures are not quite there - the space between the nose and the upper lip - too big. Your head is flat again - come on.. i'll put my beer on it :)
Here are my last 2.
January 25th, 2003, 07:12 PM
value study again.
January 25th, 2003, 08:32 PM
ya thanks oblio,That second one is great,nice pose & value study,whos that in the background?..
That first one looks a little to linear for my taste,maybe skip that second step you did and build tha values under that layer...Its a great pose though,..you poser..;P..jk
yeah the reason why i hardly do many expression ones on my comp is i still use a mouse,and as you can imagine its real labourous just drawing a line .My face can only hold a silly pose for so long before i start twitching..,when i get my Walcom itll be a different story cause then i can sketch everything down just as fast as i can with a pencil...
This quick 15 min study is just for you Oblio.;P
January 25th, 2003, 09:50 PM
jaku : that last one is such a huge improvement -nice flesh tones and great bit of hair detail - good work - look forward to more.
oblio, rusty and jester: thanks for the crits - i was fighting that one all the way, and i don't think i want to go near that picture ever again - however judging by the huge improvements everyone is making on this list, practice does make perfect. i will keep trying.
January 25th, 2003, 10:42 PM
Sorry that I missed the last few days, I've been way too stressed to even look at my face, I still drew a lot, but it's getting too hard to do these SP's anymore.
EDIT - Added Tonight's SP
Sorry, only a few comments tonight.
MCM - Nice job bud. I really enjoyed your last one. I could recognize it as your face with a few strokes, so it came across very well. Nicely done.
Rusty - You use a mouse? You crazy son of a bi... well, Wes9000 also had that T-dome painting he did with a mouse, very well done man. The head seems vertically long, but the values are very well done, especially around the eyes. All of my recent sketches are digital BTW.
Oblio - Nice job on the last value study, you've been really been a workhorse.
Jaku - Last one's proportions were coming together, what I assume to be a hair shadow on the forehead and the side of the face is kind of bugging me though. It doesn't look so much like shadow, more like a weird worm design on the skin. I think the shadow temperature may be wrong. Nice improvement though, keep working at it.
Coriat - Welcome back, your face looks a lot fuller in this, looks like your starting to incorporate some more values and bone form into the face, good job man.
Mojo - As pretty much everyone else has said, a little more sharpness would work, right now the overall image is fuzzy, if you just added some hard edges around the focal point to help grab the eye, I think it would really pull it together nicely. Beautiful job.
Hexal - Everyone else has pretty good advice, listen & draw, keep working at it bud.
Lionel - This last one is great, I love that feeling where the piece just kind of works itself together, kind of like your watching a show, it's a great feeling. Too bad everything for me feels like climbing Mt. Everest :D
Nice work everyone. Have a good Sunday.
January 26th, 2003, 01:38 PM
Well, I made this a week ago, maybe you've seen it at some other forum...
January 26th, 2003, 06:13 PM
so.. this is the new pace here? You bastards! :p
hmm i can't blame you - not even the mighty Android is on time with his stuff - i'll write him a note for that! :bash:
Rusty - ma' man... mouse you say? Well. that's another story. Ok.. behold the wacom then ;) thank you for the sp. Let me return the favor with the new value study :)
That guy.. is.. well.. a mate i work with on a projet (did i mentioned that is secret and taht i barely have time to breath?)
tayete - welcome - nice SP. If you alow me some crit - i would turn the colors more warm - espec in the shadow area. It looks cold. Also an increased value range will make it pop a lot more. It has some too hard lines and some too soft parts - a contrast too strong for my taste. But all in one it looks realy good. I don't think i'm able to make one like that.
blackhawk - o, friend.. you feel me with sadness - how come that you are going to bad? Tell me what you need and i'll fix it for you. I simply love the fact that you've done two - it shows a troubled heart of a great spirit. Now.. get back on the track friend. soon, ok?
talk more tomorow.
January 26th, 2003, 06:56 PM
I'm happy to say I think I am on the upside of my sickness...
http://mindcandyman.netfirms.com/daily uploads/painting 89 sp.jpg
I'm off to do a master's copy
January 26th, 2003, 07:39 PM
Ok... ok... letīs do something so Oblio donīt gets angry... :evilbat:
Here you have it... todayīs quick SP before i go to bed...
I should be sleeping right now.... :zzz:
January 26th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Inspired by Mr Andrew Jone`s terminator SP,bout 40 mins on Photoshop...
Blackhawk,i know that feeling to well,...well feeling frustrated when drawings just arent going how you vision them in yer mind.....I can feel ya fighting on that last painted one,keep it up..
Another nice sketch there Oblio,.. try and get the sketch more tonal looking ,yer lines r showing through to much 4 my taste,try not to let those lines take over the drawing specially around the eyes which can lose that spark of life if you make them look to linear..It dosent matter so much if its a pencil sketch by its self, but if yer combining tone and a sketch,try and balance it out something like 90% tonal value showing,10% sketch lines,im a photoshop user,so i dont know if its possible to work in layers in Painter?......ya i need a tablet,ive tryed one once,which is what i did that recent Old man sketch with,much easier than a mouse..
Tayete,ya i second what Oblio says,needs just a tad more colours showing through on the skin,have a look at Lionels stuff,something like that.....and yeah watch the eye brow hairs,the flow of the hairs should flow how they do on yer face.other than those its a great SP..
Great looking SP there MCM....that pose feels like its eyes are gonna move or something..lol..well done..
Well done with this one Jaku,the lighting picks up the forms of yer face well,..its just that shadow you drew by yer left eye looks a little funky.
January 27th, 2003, 04:16 AM
i randomly cut bangs and other areas on my head a few hours ago. it's something i do with no warning....i was walking passed the bathroom tonight and saw the scissors so i just grabbed them and started cutting. 5 minutes into it i realized what i was doing.
hay rusty...oi loik it... is your head really that long or do you just elongate your portraits?? p.s. i think farts are funny too.....
i have to go
January 27th, 2003, 08:33 AM
yeah,all of the SP ive put up so far ive altered the proportions,sometimes dramatically,almost going more for what enhances the SP,and describes my character and mood at the time than doing a proper proportioned drawing...
This latest one is the most accurate of me proportion wise,spend a good part of 20 minutes sketching it out,15 mins painting it up.,..The James dean themed one,bluish one from the previous page and the sketch book ones r the ones that describe me as i really am,a quiet sly bastard whos double faced....;)
Thats the best SP i seen of yours yet Ilex,great work,...the highlights on the hair,that squiggly highlight on the forehead specially work great....uh oh im gonna have nightmares of a chick running around with scissors now..;P
January 27th, 2003, 08:56 AM
uff! what a morning, at last iīve a rest at work....
Thanks everyone!!!! all you satisfied my ego this days!
Blackhawk_ youīre right with that shadow thing but i couldnīt be able to get the correct tone. I need much more practise and obsevation... Your line drawings are just great. Get back to the light side and keep them coming. Youīre a great inspiration :)
Rusty_ great shading, but. why do you draw yourself so wide?
MCM_ that last one is great, try add some light areas
tayete_ thatīs tight selfportrait. good job.
Mojo_ sharpenig the edges youīll look even more beautiful :)
ilex_ very colorful,maybe iīd try to soften the transitions...
Oblio_ on that last one it looks to be so many highlights and very big in shape terms. i think the midtones should be the most covering shapes... It looks that you can draw yourself incedrible easy... keep it up!
January 27th, 2003, 09:35 AM
jaku - Thanks yeah I am still screwing up all my values. That's why I have been sticking with greyscale...cause if I throw color in it will get even worse hehe. I am really getting a sense for your likeness in these latest self portraits. Your skills are really improving...honestly I can see it.
rusty - Thanks for the comments man. Your latest self portraits have been really cool. I really like the terminator one...that terminator eye looks awesome...you painted it really well. 15 minutes with a mouse and you painted this last one...wow...that's awesome dude.
ilex - I love the eyes and the reflections in the eyes on this last one. Hair grows back...arms don't...just remember not to randomly cut off your arms. Just a thought hehe.
tayete - I like this one a lot...it looks very classical. Keep posting.
blackhawk - who turned on the awesome switch?...your stuff is stinkin amazing these days...awesome. I love the bottom one with all the colors and the flailing hair...you use oil pastel for that? Awesome work man.
January 27th, 2003, 02:39 PM
the dark lips make me look dumb, i measured wrong somewhere, but i have no clue what it is :confused:
and i almost never wear my glasses, only when i'm lazy :)
this actually kinda looks like me, i still need to fix the mouth and eyes, but im pretty happy with it :) dont be too hard, k?
 hey i just saw what i did wrong:) the under nose-chin space is too small :)
:( :( feel better soon,
your portraits are great as always. :)
jaku, the last one is really good, finnish it :)
the only thing i can find is that the blue shading at the sides off the head doesnt really fit the mood of the picture and that the mouth is a bit undefined.
i'd love to see that one finished :)
i'm out, cya all
ps. im not sure if this is the right place to ask for it, but can my name be changed to Jur ??
January 27th, 2003, 04:13 PM
I worked on this too long and messed it up. :(
January 27th, 2003, 04:40 PM
As promised - my comments. :D
coriat - perhaps you should spend more time and effort on the shading?
MindCandy - hoi, new avatar. Great likeness ;) :D You improved the rendering of your goatee, but I'm still not satisfied with it.
Rusty - very good job, what else can I say? Perhaps that I like the terminator one? You're definitely the poster of the week! The nose is my weak point, really.
ilex - very expressive, as usual. The eyes are a bit big, don't you think so, too?
Jaku - keep them coming (we don't dare making Oblio angry, do we? ;) )
Tayete - I've seen your works on another forum some time ago - was it conceptdesignforum? Very good job on this portrait!
Blackhawk - I know this feeling (now nearing number 70 I sometimes feel like I should try something new, but I'm not sure what or how). Thanks for the PM! Your mouth looks a bit broad but it might be a point of proportion of your cheek (left one).
Oblio - don't be so hard on us weekly spod workers (coriat and me...), we're doing our best. So do you, I like your value studies. Should do some myself.
January 27th, 2003, 05:12 PM
thx for the feedback.
ok - here goes nothing.
0.5 mechanical pencil.
i know i can pose.. but i can not draw yet :(
coriat - WOW _ amazing! :eek: the work pays off my friend! major steps fwd. Yes. you still have to bust those measurements - DON'T STOP UNTIL YOU HAVE IT RIGHT!!!!
watch the jaw and ear - it goes a bit too far back. Mirrors can be a bitch.
for the nick - PM davi - i can't help. or better go on the irc and keep telling him :)
jes - hmmm.. nice one. yet.. where does the light come from?
I would like you to work some values - and shade your SP from your head - meaning.. that you set up an imaginary light. 3/4 would fit best. Think on your head as it is a sphere.... So sphere with one light source! GO! ;)
rusty - oh - thx for the feedback friend. Only you seem to give me a line to follow. Sorry i'm not on the track tonight - i'll try to remember your advice and you'd better keep an eye on me! don't let me fall on the wrong path friend! :)
Your last one.. hmm... NI-CE! Superb mouse render - that eye.. hmm.. i should get back to render shouldn't i...
ilex - the rainbow girl is back! yahoo ;) how do you do that hair? is lovely! One thing though - you might try it - focus on the eyes - render them carefully - and keep the rest of the SP into your style. Meaning - put more detail into the eyes - and render them ALMOST realisticaly - and keep the rest like you (and only you) make it. I only now begin to love your style! thank you!
January 27th, 2003, 05:58 PM
Oblio - the light source was rather indirect from top behind... just the lamp directed at the ceiling of my living room.
Interesting task you set for me - I'll do it on Thursday for the next two days I'll be so busy that I won't manage to do a portrait.
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