JANUARY 2003 Guest SP Area (toxic stuff) [Archive] - Page 2

Blackhawk

January 28th, 2003, 02:25 AM

Thanks guys for the help. Truth be told, my life has been too easy, I'm trying to re-adjust my priorities right now and as a result, I'm filling up my days in the last week with a lot of work and not enough drawing. I should have been asleep an hour and a half ago, but I thought of you guys, so I will know who to blame when I'm a zombie at 6am tomorrow :D I'll try to comment when I get my hour break before the second half of my day starts. Night everyone.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod117.jpg

Rusty

January 28th, 2003, 04:23 AM

http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/Me1/index.html

A lightly coloured scan from my sketchbook...the pencil sketch itself was a quick 5 minute sketch,colouring was a blazing 2 or so minutes..

nice one Oblio almost looks like you used a photo ref(or did ya?)because everything is dead on perfect....try what i said on that one,im quite anxious to see whatll look like painted..

Jester,yeah i can see your struggling with the nose,maybe perfect a stock\standard nose type then adjust it to your own nose shape,..look into Burne Hogarth books 4 that,im sure youve heard of him,if not you should be shot and mutilated...jk ..

That SP has a balanced feel to it Jaku,i think its because of the rough way ya painted most of the face combined with the sharper,detailed eyes near the center of the painting..

Coriat,dont be afraid to use lots and lots of construction lines,bulid yer drawing from the inside out....one interesting thing you could try is adding a tone to the paper first,just smudge the whole bastard paper with graphite then draw ontop of that...use an eraser to get yer highlights...

nice one lionel,i would like to see a Step by Step SP from you,i really like how ya build up skin tones,specially with yer earlier ones..make one if ya got time possibly?.,never heard of lucian freud,i look into him\her?..

Nice,almost plastic finish to that one Blackhawk,something ive been trying with some of my recent SP`s...

nite all..

clayrodery v.03

January 28th, 2003, 02:17 PM

here's mine, botto part of face is cut off because this is just one part of a larger drawing, and i'm too lazy to scan the rest of it so...
http://members.fortunecity.com/clayrodery/selfportrait1.jpg

Hexal

January 28th, 2003, 04:11 PM

http://www.cedarcountyia.com/imghost/port37.jpg

Oblio

January 28th, 2003, 04:53 PM

a quick one. (too flat in the shadow)

rusty is this what you wanted? if not.. tell me - i'll do it. you want that one - i'll do that one. No photo - i use only my mirror - yet i can hold a pose quite well (i'm trained for it :D)

hexal - nice steps ahead chief! you're on the right road. try to hold to those axys more - if in trouble with the simetry - make a half of your face and complete the otherone without the mirror. just for a change.. you'll then see those axys right!
keep at it!

clayrodery - welcome. lazy? no good. your SP looks great - why don't you show us the full one? please?

talk more tomorow!

Lionel

January 28th, 2003, 06:14 PM

Oblio: Looking good :) Keep them coming trooper ;)

Hexal: You have defined the shadows well. try spending more time getting the shapes right like the shape of the face.

Blackhawk: I know what its to get the feeling that you should be in bed. It is always damm hard to fit these in after I get back from work. Glad to see you keeping them going though.

Rusty: I will try to do a step by step sp at some point when I get a moment but really my technique for doing them is not very good Have a good look in the step by step sp thread as there are some great tips there. Really really check Lucian Freud out. He painting has been one of my bigest inspirations. Just look at this url to see how damm good he is
Reflection Self Portrat (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/freud/freud.reflection.jpg)

My atempt at doing a chuck close. Didn't really work as it is very hard. Would be interested to see if anyone else has any succsess. I think I am missing something as to how they work.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me84.JPG

reeves

January 28th, 2003, 08:01 PM

Fantastic work everyone.

I just finished browsing through all the posts...WOW. You guys got some mad talent.

Rusty! You're my freaken Idol man...awesome stuff. keep'em coming.

Here's a little something of my own. I'm a Computer & Communication Engineering student and I probably shouldn't be wasting any time, but I needed a break before I lose my mind.

http://webfea.fea.aub.edu.lb/bluetooth/images/dsp.jpg

I just finished a Digital Signal Processing [DSP] final and I felt like I was going to war [thus the war paint].

Critics are always welcome [but please don't be harsh!]

Salam

ummo

January 29th, 2003, 01:04 AM

hi everyone
been watching you guys for a while, decided to join in the fun... i hope you dont mind if i add two recent mugshots:

http://home.graffiti.net/ummo/portraits/portrait122802.jpg
and
http://home.graffiti.net/ummo/portraits/portrait010203.JPG

hey Lionel i just have to say how in awe i am of your last portrait! i think it turned out extremely well! I cant even imagine how to start painting like that!:confused: If you dont mind me asking... how long did it take you?

Rusty

January 29th, 2003, 01:54 AM

http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/2pagesSB/index.html

New scans from my sketchbook.......
The screaming head i drew from imagination,..It was inspired by a Doco i watched on Discovery channel about those artist/detectives who remodel heads with clay(or whatever it is) from skulls...Its quite a fasinating idea i might explore it more..

The other is a quick 10 minute SP..just the eyes,nose,mouth and my girly hands i used a mirror,the rest is improvised...

Very interesting approach in that one lionel,great job ,if i attempted something like that it would be complete shyte...please say youll do a step by step SP,i really want to get the nack of painting with colours just like you have....ya that artist is awesome,His thickly loaded paint brush technique is great,really adds dimension to his SP..

nice one clayrodery,highlights on the hair work great, skins a bit to highlighted for my taste though...

welcome reeves,nice proportioning on that one m8,ha i like that warpaint thing,only little thing that stands out on that one to me is the lips,they seem a little to outlined..great job..glad ya like my stuff,im chuffed...

that full face one turned out quite well Ummo,i like it...ya lets annoy Lionel till he gives up and makes a step by step SP..hehe..jk lionel.

Blackhawk

January 29th, 2003, 02:13 AM

Sorry for the last few ones guys. They've been really crappy, it sucks not having the time to do these anymore. For the second night in a row I'll be getting absolutely no sleep, and just when I thought I had my sleep issues dealt with :D Take it easy guys. Thanks Rusty, MCM, Lionel, and others. I swear that I'm going to squeeze comments in here at some point, I feel like I'm cheating you guys if I don't help out a bit with my viewpoint and I apologize.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod118.jpg

miasmak

January 29th, 2003, 03:41 AM

I will skip the sniveling excuses, and spare you the mal-proportioned ones. Here is the sum total of a tough week. As his Oblio-ness (we need you man) requested, non-computer selfportraits.
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sb-1s.jpg eyes too close
http://www.o2w.nl/~maia/sp/sb-2s.jpg
bottom of face too long

Rusty is Rocking, keep exploring man!

Blackhawk, You look harrowed I know I should say keep going, but maybe you need a break. You decide.

Welcome welcome, ummo and reeves and clayrodery v.03 make another one, make another one!

lionel, very interesting stuff, I llike the dot one alot. Mmm self portraits in the style of <insert favourite artist> good idea

jaku, your observation skills are improving, The sharp white dots because of the brush you use, bother a bit, perhaps start on a mid tone background.

Jester, the last one seemed flat. Think it is the difficult lighting as you said. The mouth lines are sensitively drawn.

Coriat, wow what an improvement, there is a definite 3D feel. Don't stop

ilex, intense, the hair is very well done. ( you can't cut it longer ...)

Oblio, the inpect-teeth-for-spinach one seems way better than the other value studies, looks like you were paying attention to detail.
that's all for now, sorry if I have missed someone.

Rusty

January 29th, 2003, 03:54 AM

Beautifully done Miasmak,you deserve a cold one for those..:beer:
sensitivly shaded and not to overcrowed with detail,not like me who attacks a SP like theres no tomorow :mad: :bash: ..the first one is my personal fave.hope to see more..

nice one blackhawk,that portrait would look even better if you added a few thought out highlights as the ground looks slightly toned...

Rusty

Oblio

January 29th, 2003, 06:24 AM

Lionel - wow - mr Freud is kicking BIG stuff -you just need more texture to get there. You're quite close!
About your last one - hm... cool stuff. really cool.

reeves - welcome. nice one - real nice. I would varry more the values and work my highlights if i were you. I would like to read the light better on your face. so.. where's the next one? ;)

ummo - welcome too. i love the 2nd one more. If you could just put more detail into that eye.. it would rock even more. Thanx for sharing. MORE!

mia dear.. i can read the concentration on your sp's :D they show nice efforts - yet i fail to understand - once you have proved to us that you can handle the axys why don't you keep at it? Once a thing learned it's good to stay with it. So... more pencil for you - WITH axys. I want to see those axys drawn on the paper.

Rusty - mr - are you ignoring me? I've done one espec for you!!! those sketches are realy cool - but you should let go of those cigars - smoking KILLS man. keep it low. ok?
So... move your behind and crit the hell out of me or... i'll be nagging you in your nightmares about it!

Oblio

Jaku

January 29th, 2003, 01:30 PM

Nothing but darkness lately...

http://jaku.iespana.es/jaku/imagenes/big/290103def.jpg

ummo

January 29th, 2003, 02:06 PM

rusty i really really like the sketch you posted, it has so much depth and 3-dimensionality. very terminator-esque :cool:
i would love to see it more fleshed out, or de-fleshed as the case may be :) maybe post it in the Thunderdome thread?

miasmack i love the way you drew your hair in the second piece, and in both of your pieces i like the way you defined the overall shape of you with a simple outline while rendering specific areas.

Jaku that is really sweet! you look like Emperor Palpatine :D

This one took me 2 hours and is probably one of my best self portraits:

http://home.graffiti.net/ummo/portraits/portrait012903-2.JPG

MindCandyMan

January 29th, 2003, 02:09 PM

Hey alright another Philadelphia guy! Philly rules!
Nice self portrait. Post some more!

coriat

January 29th, 2003, 03:23 PM

hi all, i'll give a few quick comments since i just got the bridgman book i ordered, and im drawing from that now :) this sp is yesterdayish.
http://home.hccnet.nl/henk.middendorp/jurjen/tekeningen/28-1.jpg trying to look dark, broomy and interesting...and miserably failed :D

ummo- great! way better then anyhtingi would color :) BUT, spend a bit more time on the eyes like oblio said, make them stare back at you. And pay just a bit more attention at the construction of the face, the eyes are skewed and i think you didnt measure enough...

jaku - that's sweeeeeet,great piece!

:( blackhawk feel better, k?

:chug: bye all.
coriat|out

Oblio

January 29th, 2003, 03:26 PM

God Damn.. JAKU - you're killing me. The last ones were DOPE! :bow:

ummo - nice one mate. realy nice. a bit more focus maybe one the net one? more detail? :D

this one looks quick but it was not. not as quick as it looks anyway.
i'm trying to clean a bit my lines.
see you in the morning!

Oblio

January 29th, 2003, 03:40 PM

coriat - you sniked while i was typing - great one man! great one! Problem with the jaw, and a bit big forehead. keep at it.
uh - here an update to that - i have a curse on me - i spot the bad things after i post. grr...

realy realy quick "fix" - or whatever.

Lionel

January 29th, 2003, 06:52 PM

reeves: Nice self portrat. I know the feeling of bateleing with thigs like DSP :). Be thankful it isn't a horable theoretical course like discreet maths.

ummo: Love thouse colors. Took about 2-3 hours I think :). It is easy to do just draw an out line use the grid option in painter look at how chuch close does it and try to copy him. I have soo much more respect from him after I tried it myself, and I had a huge amount of respect before ;).

Rusty: nice lines man you have sure god a really good sense of drawing.

Blackhawk: You seem to be making these self portrats more of a task for yourself of late. Try to relax when you do them and use them as a way of unwinding. Don't worry if they go wrong just poor you stress into them

Jaku: That is awesome and very scary :)

coriat: Looks good but I dobt you will ever do dark and brooding the yellow paper ;)

Oblio: I tried hard to get texture into that freud one but I think I should have been a bit more daring with the impaso brush :). Never mind always next time ;).

My own Dali. This seemed very hard to paint I just couldn't seem to do it and it is all very rushed :/.
http://raq626.uk2net.com/~lionel/me85.JPG

reeves

January 29th, 2003, 08:06 PM

Thanks for the quick feedback...you guys are really great.

Oblio - Unfortuantly, I don't have time right now to modify the portrait or make another one. But I'm gonna try working on the highlights...it's always been my weak point.

Lionel - discreet math was the coolest course I have ever taken...and the easiest by far with regard to theory. I'm still gald to see a fellow sufferer come along. [And if you're enterrested in theoretical courses...try Modern Physics....thats a real bitch.:) ]

Salam.

ilex

January 30th, 2003, 02:11 AM

oblio i tried to pay more attention to the eyes on this one like you ordered... (err..i didn't pay attention to proportion so much but to detail !!) i always make that one eye bigger.

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/2003/01.29.03.jpg

gah i tried posting comments earlier and it didn't post because "server is busy" or something. i haven't the energy for it now. but great job everyone and lionel i like what you've been doing lately...keep it up!

niters

Rusty

January 30th, 2003, 02:31 AM

http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/head1/index.html

thanks 4 the replys,heres another sketch from imagination heading in the same direction of the previous one....Next one im planning on doing the same kinda thing to my own head....not literally of cause,but ya get the idea...sketch took about 30 mins,pencil..

nope i aint ignoring ya Oblio ,it just completely skipped my mind to comment because of the flood of new SP piling in...great job on that value study,try out what i said on that one where yer showing yer teeth,i reckon that one will come out great,..redo that pose in proper lighting rather than improvising,it come out better..bah,save me the ciggarettes will kill ya talk,ive heard it a million times ;P....harhar

Nice sketch Coriat,that one pulled together much better than those others,.Keep on practicing,read up heaps on all kinds of artists imaginable youll be amazed what a little knowledge can do for your art..,plus books make good ninja stars,specially hard covers..

That ones great Jaku..nicely proportion,I like the cold expression ,colours enhance the feel,..that green background specially works well on this one...

Haha,i like Dali`s stuff as well Lionel,great job on this one.I might try a Surreal themed SP as well sometime...

This ones well done Ummo,but theres still something about the other one i commented on that this one dosent have,..Proportion/painting wise this ones great,eyes look a little of,im guessing its because you moved a little while posing,i do that alot as well.:)..

wicked ilex...this is the first one of ya that the forms of yer face show more clearly,well to me anyway,i think its because you never mixed in alot of vibrant colours like a usually do....uh ohh what the hell ya shovin down yer gullet..?,that dont look like a lifesaver..

see you

ummo

January 30th, 2003, 02:32 AM

Hey MindCandyMan! Philadelphia Pride! :chug:

Coriat thanks much and yea you are right about my face being skewed there. since it takes me so long to do the portrait my face shifted from a 3/4 view to straight ahead and i completely blew my forehead and hair out of proportion.

Lionel it must be weird seeing your disembodied head resting atop little sticks! The drawer is great :D

this next one i tried to put a little more detail into my features specifically my eyes. i cant see that it worked out very well tho still looks pretty sketchy...
http://home.graffiti.net/ummo/portraits/portrait012903-4.JPG bleh

edit:
Ilex your hair is so full of energy despite the fact that you look really sad having to swallow whatever that is.. must have been a tough position to hold for a portrait!

Rusty that is one of the coolest drawings i have seen! :rock:

jhibbs

January 30th, 2003, 05:27 AM

been awhile since ive posted, dont worry i havent missed a single one, i just havent been online much. here are the good ones from past few days, and tonight i did a vine charcoal one ill post tomorrow (well technically later today, its 6am.) i pulled an all nighter to get all my homework for next week done before the weekend :D

comments when i post todays

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/jank.txt

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/jano.txt

yesterday:
http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/janp.txt

coriat

January 30th, 2003, 02:22 PM

trying to look angry again, and failed again.
i hate school and all its stupid physics assignments and casusses, i hate the doctor who said i couldnt sport for a year and i hate drawing.

http://home.hccnet.nl/henk.middendorp/jurjen/tekeningen/30-1.jpg

i'll comment when i'm calmed.
Damn, i cant even make a portrait look angry:bash: :ranting: :firedevil :realmad: :electric: :bash:

Jaku

January 31st, 2003, 12:32 AM

Damn winter! it´s all white all around here, my car has flooded and i´ve to go to work right now... damn it!:mad:

http://jaku.iespana.es/jaku/imagenes/big/310103def.jpg

I´ll comment later, I promise.... :)

Patton Art

January 31st, 2003, 12:52 AM

I just started into all of this digitally painted self portraits shtuff. I haven't really done much digi painting before this...
I HATE these. I expect myself to do MUCH better than what I'm doing now... but... oh well. I'll just keep goin until I can make something mediocre. heh.
I'm kind of embarrassed to show these... but I was thinkin maybe someone else could give me a helpful critique, so, might as well post it up and maybe get laughed at, but get some advice at the same time!

here they are
:barfing:
http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/spotd_january20.txt
:barfing:
http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/spotd_january21.txt
:barfing:
http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/spotd_january22.txt
:barfing: :barfing: :barfing:
http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/spotd_january28.txt
:barfing:
http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/spotd_january30.txt
i hate this crap.... my knowledge of color theory is about equal to that of a piece of cabbage.
:mad: :mad: :rambo: :realmad: :barfing: :machinegun: :bash: :dead:

Jaku

January 31st, 2003, 02:32 AM

Well, here i am again... there´s about 2cm of snow out there and here i am, working in front of a computer... damn it!!!:bash: and without beer!!:beer: :mad:

Thanks to all of you! you´re pushing me to keep drawing everytime. Thanks!!

Well... here are the comments. My boss is on a trip and i´ve some spare time today...

Patton_ The first protrait i can see is great, maybe a little big ears but i dont see anything in colors or value contrast that call my attention. In the others... i see them flat, why didn´t you put in them the contrast you gave to the first one? And you need a bit more of perspective work.

Jaku_ What kind of shit did you do today??... :confused: i don´t wanna work...

Coriat_ work on your perspective skills, and you need to define your shadows and lights shapes... Try a line work for them to, i mean try a portrait without shading, try doing a contour of your shadows and lights...

jhibbs_ you´re the master of the shapes man!

ummo_ light!! i like them a lot!

Rusty_ I´m envy.. i´m not able to be that creative...

Ilex_ That last one is great! Maybe the mouth is a bit off. Try to unify the light...

Oblio_ that sketches are neat!!

Lionel_ sorry, i don´t like dali at all but your skin tones are damn good!

Miasmak_ keep working your proportions, the eyes are a bit big i think....

Blackhawk_ You look tired... you deserve some holidays so... get them!!!

Rusty

January 31st, 2003, 07:36 PM

http://www.geocities.com/rustyrulzr/me4/index.html

crappy quality scan ,one i did yesterday,this time using my face,im in a rush so ill comment tonight....
about 40 mins to do.I messed up the proportions a bit cause i was concentrating to much on the details.

laters

Rusty

February 1st, 2003, 03:21 AM

patton,i know you think those paintings you posted up are better than your trying to making them out to be,they aint at all that bad..the second one grabs me the most,but the first has the most natural feel out of them...welldone..

great job again Jhibbs ,i like the second one personally,both the style its drawn in,and the colour sceme.

I dont like those eyes in that last one Jaku,they seem out of place..

Great one Ummo,proportions r welldone on this one,GJ..

Use more construction Coriat and maybe experiment with some white highlights since yer using toned paper...,works showing promise.Keep it up..

C U

Blackhawk

February 2nd, 2003, 04:28 AM

Hey guys. My work should hopefully start giving me some more time again in acouple days, so here's acouple I did tonight, and I'll do a few more tomorrow night. This week was just WAY too hectic to even attempt to get these done reasonably. I'll comment later guys, but all of you are doing a great job, Ilex, rusty, jaku, patton, coriat, lionel, mcm, jhibbs, oblio, et al. Hopefully we can get this thread pumping full of life again soon, I miss doing these and sharing comments with everyone. Goodnight.

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod119.jpg

http://members.cox.net/spagina/spod/spod120.jpg

benzo

February 2nd, 2003, 11:06 AM

blackhawk- both of these show promise, but they are incomplete. lets see something finished. work on a portrait for a week until it looks like a sargeant. whatever it takes. really think about what these portraits mean to you. does it mean more to do one every night. does that capture more of your self and your soul than something that takes longer? if you spend more time on a piece and complete it, what does that do more you? do you lose the moment, or do you make yourself more complete by "finishing" it?

rusty- the perspective is off. flip it over, look at it upside down. everyhting going on the x-axis is slanted, evertything going up on the y-axis is perfectly straight. the left side is lower than the right, especially the left ear. great creativity! hope that helps.

Patton Art- look at Picasso's work during his blue and rose periods. your pallette reminds me of this work. be careful to keep your head in perpective; most of these are flattening out because each side is almost symetrical, yet your head is turned slightly or three-quarters.

jhibbs- i like your style but i want you to try some different brushes. it looks like you are using a primitive program and a mouse sometimes. you are still capturing a lot this way, but show us what else you can do.

coriat

February 2nd, 2003, 02:42 PM

just goofing around :) i'll crit tomorrow.
http://home.hccnet.nl/henk.middendorp/jurjen/tekeningen/2-2.jpg

ps. jester, can i become a member of the middle class? maybe that would inspire me to post more then just sp's :p
...
everything else suxorz

Oblio

February 2nd, 2003, 03:59 PM

you are SLOW!
i've been away a little due some incredible stress (and work) but my part is done.
Here...

Coriat - listen to Rusty! right eye too far back, flat forehead, interesting proportion and missplaced jaw - looks neat though :)

BlackHawk - you're killing me - you sayou "i didn't had time to paint" and you get better each seccond! :eek:
I love the last ones! :bow:

Rusty - umm... how long till wacom? me curious. lovely shade.

Patton Art - simetry - it looks like you can not hold a position and move a lot ehile doing the sp. It's normal - but compensate with perspective knowledge ;) you've got big guns there... you just don't aim right! (yet) :chug: