View Full Version : Who's your favorite new kid?
June 18th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Hey all, I've been hitting up some comic book forums trying to get feedback, and having little luck getting valid critiques. Everyone here seems to have a lot to say, so here's the cover for a comic i'm pitching at Wizard World Chicago in August. Also go to my website ( www.josholland.com ) and tell me what you like or don't like. I just want to see what people are responding to.
June 18th, 2004, 04:45 PM
Seriously man, get rid of the lens flare. Other than that, good stuff.
Try painting on the flare, or extreme light.. Make it look more like part of the picture.
June 18th, 2004, 05:44 PM
Yes get rid of the flare! It's like a smear of feces on a van gogh :(
Other than the obvious, it's great. I was going to right click> save but there's just one thing you must do :mad:
June 18th, 2004, 06:46 PM
aggghhh it burns, it burns, the filter of forum death be upon it.
June 18th, 2004, 10:35 PM
You got the Lens Flare BURN!
June 19th, 2004, 12:03 AM
The lense flare HAS to go!!
June 19th, 2004, 10:18 AM
hmmm i like the rendering but the LensFlare takes a lot from the Picture :( also i think that the pose is a little bit too symetric o.O
June 19th, 2004, 10:38 AM
Great work on the background and the face looks pretty cool too.... but there is a lensflare there ~~
June 19th, 2004, 11:13 AM
I love the background, it has a misty dream mood to it.
oh and uh... lensflare.
June 19th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Why is is hair like that? It definately takes away from the whole picture, it being the lightest part (and given no explanation [if it was on fire, maybe?]). And what others said, it being too symmetrical on the body. Nice background.
June 19th, 2004, 01:42 PM
whats happening is the mark on the character's scalp is glowing and creating the warm light source. i like this forum, you guys are brutally honest. any comments on the stuff on the website?
sparky | emily
June 19th, 2004, 02:45 PM
In the peice above I really like the backlit edges, they look great.
I like your site - especially the sketch book, it loads fast and it's fun.
June 19th, 2004, 05:39 PM
well I think this cover is very nice, the pose is alittle stiff, but that has been said before, and I won't mention the ens-lay are-flay cause i'm sure you've already gotten the point. I don't think the hair is as bad as MOS667 said it was, i think it looks fine. And the background is clearly the best part of the picture, great job there.
Oh and one more thing that i don't know whether it's just my taste or not, but to me the green accents in the skintone make this piece seem almost too colorful. I guess what i'm trying to say is that in a night scene or a scene that takes place in dim light everything loses saturation and shifts significantly to the cool side of the color wheel, unless lit by another scource, as this clearly is. (so far this is what the pic is already doing), But when the separate light scource does illuminate other things, it will tint whatever its lighting and therefore the forehead lightscource's color(which you should probably draw by hand ;) ) should probably have a greater impact on the skin color.
Man I was rambling there for a second and I don't even know if i said anything coherent. Oh well, it's just my opinion in any case.
As for the stuff on the website, it's clear you have a very good personal style going, and the website itself is pretty slick, I wish I had more of a crit. hehe keep it up
June 19th, 2004, 11:50 PM
Other than the flare, I think it's good. No crits.
June 20th, 2004, 01:53 AM
I am amazed that noone has said anything yet... I guess its my duty to enlighten you. (now there`s a paradox.)
Remove the lensflare. :D
June 20th, 2004, 02:13 PM
The concept is good and I like the contrast.
But why the lens flare ??
August 5th, 2004, 03:12 PM
I'm posting this for crit on the logo mostly. If you mention the lens flare again I swear to God...
I'm kidding, any criticism is welcome but that point has been made abundantly clear.
Oh, I have some new stuff on my site too. http://www.josholland.com
Art of Arm
August 5th, 2004, 03:39 PM
But it ok
August 5th, 2004, 04:23 PM
August 5th, 2004, 05:30 PM
SOrry sorry dont hit me please.. it had to be said. im sorry.
Nah great piece Im not really diggin the logo, proly cause i can tread it properly. Also his schnoz is freakishly fat.:)
August 5th, 2004, 05:36 PM
LENS FLARE :a!:
Did you use the dodge/burn tool ? I see that you toned down the newer logofied version, that's good.
Now on the logo since you asked : It looks really grungy which I like, but it might not help the readability.
August 5th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Ok crit on logo, I think it reads:
"Ogari" or "Ogart"
I think you could rework the last letter more. The "O" is great. Also checked out your website, great sketches! :)
August 5th, 2004, 06:32 PM
I love how constructive the lensflare criticism is, and despite the numerous comments about it people seem to still find it worth stating. Thank you, your comments are really helping me to become a better artist.....
August 5th, 2004, 06:52 PM
its alright, the lens flare has become somewhat of a standing joke here in ca and we do it to death, its alright there just kidding around. We get some really retarded stuff around here sometimes, the photoshop lensflare is just the most overused filter vere, especially b completenoobs. Hey be thankful your gettin alot of responses and theres good advice that comes with the OMG LOENZFLARE 0_0 There just havin fun. :confident Dont take it seriously.
August 5th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Hey if you haven't already, check out this guy's website. Personally, I think this cover is one of my least favorite pieces of the bunch. There's some stuff on the site that is just plain sick. I love your style, man, keep it up and post here more often. I'm also real curious about the way you work, and the different rendering syles you utilize, so if you get a chance to show us a WIP or something like that, I think it'd be a great addition to your site.
August 5th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Its cool, I have very thick skin. I got that the lens flare thing is a joke, but I just want some real criticism. As for how I work I mainly do either all Adobe Illustrator work or a mixed media of pencil lines with digital paints and photoshop touches (and contrary to popular belief, i'm not a big fan of the lensflare. just thought it might be appropriate for once. :nohope: ) Anyway, thanks for the comments!
August 5th, 2004, 07:14 PM
i haven't read everything here, but here is my comment- he is askew:
August 5th, 2004, 09:38 PM
The background is well done.
As Benz was saying I think, the picture is off balance, especially after you added the text.
The text is very hard to read.
As far as the lense flare comments :S not being really constructive. I agree with everyone on losing it, and here is why:
1. It draws my eye to it and blinds me. That may be why everyone is so focused on it, there is no choice.
2. Obvious filters in many cases seem to detract from the professional look of a piece (lens flare being the cliche one). If you are presenting this to a company, I'd take the advice of the others and remove it.
Ok so there are the reasons that I feel it should be removed, and the big question is on everyone's mind... do you plan to? (no, you don't have to, just an overall suggestion :bashful: ) I suppose a lot of us really would like to see and critique the piece without it.
I'm going to check out your website now :) !
August 6th, 2004, 12:50 AM
I checked your website, really cool stuff. I love the popart kinda style. Your sketchbook is awesome. you should post specific pieces to get crits on them.. The colors and painting style on that piece you posted are really nice. you could make the guys chest look more like skin and less like paint thhough. the glow from the logo text might be too white. also, you should get rid of the lensflare.
August 6th, 2004, 12:54 AM
this cover looks really good. I like the colors and the logo a lot. The lens flare bothers me a little but it is not too bad. Mostly his hair is lit very bright... at first glance i thought he might be bald.. on second glance i still wasnt very sure... if hes supposed to be bald then some people might assume hes not and vice versa... i think if you worked on the silhouette of the hair a little it would make it a little more clear.
As for your website it is great! You have a lot of great artwork.
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