(GCSE) my teacher hates concept art

[Mr Man]

I cant believe it... my teacher is doing me down cuz i draw like a concept artist. surely its agaisnt the laws of being a school teacher to do someone down.
I have a feeling she will give my work a poor grade.:mad:
Has anyone else ever had a problem like this???

[Buffalo]

When I began taking art classes in high school, one of the first things the teachers told all of us was to stop looking at comic books and illustration. At the time I resented it, because it felt like they were looking down on concept art and illustration and comic books - and they were...
but...
...once I started drawing from life, studying anatomy, and reading up on fine artists and studying their work - illustration, cartooning, and drawing in general started to make a lot more sense to me. As agrivating as it might be, trying to work within your instructor's parameters might help your art get better. If you can't stand it - keep two sketchbooks. You'll draw more - and fool the bastards in the process.
Good luck.

[Mr Man]

Hehe thanks for that.
Ill just tell her to go to hell. I wont have to put up after her now that my exams are almost over
:evilbat:
*Evil laugh*

[cartoonfox]

hey man, i know just how you feel like.

i have just finished my A-levels. and in my GCSE's it was really crappy.

for my exam, i did this comic (cant remember what it was about, but it was relevent to the question) and it was quite big, took me all of the 10 or so hours. plus i did sketchbooks and sketchbooks of sketches for different characters and ideas ect.

at the time my "style" was very cartoony (like in my avatar) and so i had a feeling the teachers wouldnt like it. but even today i look back at it and i think it was quite good. well drawn and such.

but i ended up getting a B. which isnt bad i guess, but what made me mad was that this girl who was really posh and looked down on everybody, did all this essay shit to explain her feelings for her "experiment" which was basically poster paint splashed over a huge cloth with shells or whatever stuck on, and shiny beed things.
it was just a big mess, but she maneged to get an A*



...anyway, screw her, the morel of this story is, just do what you can for GCSE's, but at the end of the day, an employer at a game company is gonna look at your portfolio, not your GCSE grades ^-^

so keep up your sketchings, draw what ever you want ^-^




....BUT< life drawing, studies etc is also very important. like Buffalo said. so dont ignore that side of things.

hope i idnt confuse you ^-^




peace

[arghmisfit]

i must sound like the biggest newb asking this lol but here it goes..

whats a GCSE???:confused: :p :(

[-The Swift-]

a GCSE is what you do at the end of the 5 years you spend at high school in the UK. you need a certain amount of them to egt into a college or sixth form where you do advanced education, then after thise 2 years you can go to university.

gcse ranges froma grade A*-U, an A*-C grade is a pass and thses are the ones that count basically. no worries about sounding stupid, i have no idea how the education system works in thr US! hope it helped

[Mr Man]

Thanks Cartoonfox.
I certainly find knowing anatomy helps, infact im gonna have to concentrate alot of my work on anatomy over the next two years. BTW have you found your arts improved alot over however long youve been studying it???
(I know it takes time)
:D :D :D :D :D :D

[Gr8t100]

yeah, back in HS (3 years ago?) i had this one art teacher for practically all my art classes and she hated my guts. Course my thoughts of her were the same so it's not like we weren't aware of it. I recalled times when during the middle of class, she would ask me if I wanted to just walk around the halls and leave the room just so she can get away from me, course I always said no. Plus when an art school came to our classs, our teacher was given papers to hand out to the classroom in regards to that college, and she gave everbody in the class one except for me. Well a year after graduation, I got into art school and even gave her a copy of my acceptance letter, just to say to her "haha, go fuck yourself cause you were wrong." Course looking back at it, I could really give two shits what she thnks.

[leakyfrog]

Sometimes it's a matter of educating the instructor. I had a teacher at Art Center who was starting to grade my stuff down because of the concept art feel of it. He was a traditional illustrator, so he hadn't been exposed to a lot of digital concept art. I showed him the Art of Monsters Inc, and talked about what I was trying to accomplish. After that, I had no problems- he even paid me to find him a copy of the Monsters Inc book:D

[Mr Man]

Ha Ha that just reminds me. When ever my teacher tried to help someone with a drawing she completely wrecks it, hah and every time she tried to help me Id just scribble her bits out and do my own stuff. she couldnt draw for shit:p

Oh and I also could have sued her for making me look at H.R gigers work (you know the crazy alien porn).
:p hehehe

[kmscottmoore]

Unfortunately, this sort of thing exists a lot, even in Universities. That was my experience. There was a whole lot of nonsense talk about what is real art and what is merely illustration or decorative, and it's all basically a load of crap. I have a B.A. that is worthless.

Some of the 2 year "art institute" schools seem to be doing a better job than the universities.
Still, I think the best way to get an art education is to apprentice with a working artist. Do an internship at a design studio or with a pro illustrator if at all possible. The pay (if any) will suck, and they'll run you like a dog, but in the long run, you'll be grateful for what you learn.

[Daissan]

Yeah, I've run into the same sort of thing at my school. My art teacher is very old fashioned, and she's one of those whacko granola-munching hippie express-yourself people, and she finds the most liberating artistic medium to be carefully aranged bits of scrap she finds in the parking lot at our school. Like, stapling old cans to a fallen tree limb, and saying "it expresses my tormet" or something.

She apparently has some sort of ingrown hatred of anything that is not sculpture, and apparently the more realistic a peice of art is, the less it expresses, and therefore the worse it is. She actually told me to stop using refrence this year, because my pictures were looking "too real". Yeah. (my colution to said problem was to just stop showing her the references. She never knew. :p ) She also hates computers, and routinely graded down anyone who completed an assignment, even a sketch, that was done in a digital medium. I've tried talking to her about it, and showing her some of the amazing digital artists out there, but she's one of those teachers who thinks anything other than blind obedience is an affront to her teaching ability, and a personal insult to her character and some such. As amazing as this is, trying to explain my goals and the expectations of my future school (i had been accepted to Ringling by that point) actually made things worse, because then she knew specifically what things I was doing, and so she could look for them.

You'll find people like this everywhere, who think that their form of art is the only valid one, and that you're an ignorant, insolent troublemaker for not listening to them. If you have the misfortune of having one for a teacher, the best thing is to cater as much to their taste as possible without going against your own personal artistic intentions. If they hate concept art, don't show them your concept art, just show them the finished peices that result from it. If they hate comics, then just draw your comics as several "independent" pieces of art, that just happen to tell a story. If they hate your medium of choice, use it as a chance to experiment into other media, who knows, you may just fall in love with... say.. crayons. The point is to never let someone like that slow you down. No employer is ever going to contact your high school teacher or GCSE instructor or whatever to see wha tkind of person you are, so get it over with and get on to someone worth learning from. ^^

[Mr Man]

Hehe great story.
Id like to see a crayon master piece (probably a big squiggle)
:p