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Jason Manley
December 15th, 2002, 10:07 PM
here ya go...
this image was HEAVILY art directed...more so than any image Ive ever worked on.
:bars:
enjoy
j
PS...thanks to coro, foster, jaymz and puddnhead for all the input.http://www.conceptart.org/xs/bookcoverfreeman.jpg
I.was.ink
December 15th, 2002, 10:11 PM
WOW! my retnas just fell off. Its so amazing at how good that is. I love the whole thing. I wish I could see the steps it took u to get there. U are one amazing artist.
Travis_Bourbeau
December 15th, 2002, 10:18 PM
Damn im thinkiing he better hurry up ans start pulling that trigger or jump ! Nice work w
jrr
December 15th, 2002, 10:43 PM
lookin good jason. this is with painter right?
Batteram
December 16th, 2002, 02:11 AM
The colours you used in this piece are great. I also like the textures on the metal iron thingys.
One question: What is that blue soul coming out of that girl meant to be? Is she about to die and her soul has come out of her body or what?
Fozzybar
December 16th, 2002, 03:18 AM
Beautiful colors! I was thinking the same like Batteram...i mean, she isn't dead yet, but there is a soul flying away...?
I love this shiny blue light...:hearts:
retro002
December 16th, 2002, 05:01 AM
hey jason,
maybe i'm a bit too curious, but may i ask what in particular the art director disliked?
thanks for posting
Fipse
December 16th, 2002, 06:07 AM
I really like this piece but at the moment I canīt imgagine it as a bookcover because of itīs wide format. Have you cropped it for the purpose of showing it to us?
The colours and figures are great as usual but somehow Iīve got some problems with the composition. It somehow topples to the right (but maybe itīs just me who sees it like this or it has to do with cropping). Furthermore it seems to me that the bosom of the hanging girl is a little off.
Hope you donīt mind critizising īcause youīre a lot futher in drawing than I am. Overall great work as usual!
Fipse
Oblio
December 16th, 2002, 06:47 AM
Thank you for taking the time to post in our "finished" sector.
:rolleyes: :p :D
It's nice to see you alive Master Jason - even though i don't like you caged - that offer i've made to Hermchen remains valid - 4 cabs with nice people for mr. artdirector? In a sec. Yes.. it will be 4.25$ (special discount)
a bit cheesy for my taste and definitely not your (loose) style - nevertheless thought.. a "concrete" piece. (it rocks)
Oblio
Jason Manley
December 16th, 2002, 08:20 AM
Hey
thanks for the kind words.
yes it is in painter
yes it is the girls spirit leaving as she will die.
no it is not cropped...the illustration was originally made to work as a two page spread and to take up part of the book cover format....sorta how a wide screen film only takes up part of a television screen...the top and bottom are black and blank...a place for all the text...but they are actually cropping in on the final cover...and using this as the two page spread in the middle.
no goon squad is necessary
the art director is very happy with this. It went thru lilterally dozens of revisions to be at that point. very very art directed.
yes the composition pulls to the right...that is the focal area...the man with the gun and the monsters coming at him....but if you notice how strong the blue is on the spirit...that is weighted enough to pull the eye back into the piece and across the format. a counter balance so to speak.....the composition is a very quick read...pull right to the focal area....has to be this way for marketing purposes...it is commercial illustration...hit em hard as they glance....then give the viewer enough secondary weights/focuses to keep them looking if they choose to...even try to make them look...(the bright color and strong value range)....even the color scheme is thought out for this...very dull to very bright....the goal of book illustration and package illustration is to make it POP off the shelf. that was what i tried to do for him. you do that with contrast of all aspects..value..color...line...and a quick reading composition.
I dont know if i was successful in this or not...but it was kept in mind the whole time...and discussed with the client to confirm that was indeed his goal.
laters
j
Gorbay
December 16th, 2002, 08:31 AM
Wow, it's good to see a new painting from Jason Manley... I liked the colors and the mood much and the poses and action looks great but the blue light reflection from the structure or the parts of the building looks a lot more purple .. like a ultraviolet light ... congrutulations. A good inspiration
Loga4
December 16th, 2002, 08:53 AM
Hoorey!
Glad that you decide to share that
awesome illustration with us!
I like everything about it,beside cognition that
that girl will die...buhhhaaaa.
Question-did you do just cover or
there is more illustration from you in
that book?If you did,hehehe,you know
what to do,right?:D
Success!
Sadclown
December 16th, 2002, 10:03 AM
Man, I know I'm gonna get so flamed for this but....
I dunno, it's a really good painting and all (of course it is, Jason Manley painted it for god's sake), but it just doesn't seem IMHO opinion to have the life and character your other work has. Just my opinion of course, and I'm by no means some amazing artist or anything (I'm not even a good artist), it just seems to me that when I looked at your earlier work I could see the characters' personalities. This just doesn't inspire that in me. Just my humble opinion.
gekitsu
December 16th, 2002, 10:11 AM
i'm with sadclown.
it's a great picture, it is well done, better than i'd do but it lacks a certain manley edge.
maybe it's the color pverkill with the soul's blue... i kinda don't like the "drive back across the image".
this is a in-your-face situation. there is movement, action, danger... and all at one spot.
the subtileness of her slowly pasing away looks a bit too evident, imho.
but hey... as long as the art director likes it (i.e. your purse likes, too)
funK
December 16th, 2002, 12:17 PM
no mystery everything in its spellt' out for you, ah well.... nice technical work.
funK, over
hed|lamb
December 16th, 2002, 12:43 PM
That's pretty awesome, especially the colors.
PhilHolland
December 16th, 2002, 01:19 PM
I like the overall painting, but it does seem "constrained". The monster design is very nice.
The girls expression and the clouds are also very
well done. The gun is awesome.
It must have been hard figuring out
how the blue glow was going to work on the rusted
girder.
I would be curious to know what type of art direction you recieved for this piece. Did they
tell you where to put the figures? Did they specify
a palette? Did they ask for the tilted pov?
One more question. How long did this take from
thumbnail to finished painting.
I'm picky but I do really like it.
Phil
Hardcore
December 16th, 2002, 07:35 PM
Very cool , very good !!! The girl spirit leaving reminds me of final fantasy...neat !! :chug:
JoshuaTheJames
December 16th, 2002, 09:41 PM
beautiful colours as always jason...
-Joshua
Nordstrand, T
December 16th, 2002, 11:41 PM
Sometimes, when I see great colour work, I feel like licking the screen. That sky, and the blue illuminated ironwork make my gums all juiced up. Really a delight for the eyes, Jaon. I see you retained some looseness in the downright imp(?), but I don't think the cover suffers at all from the tightness. The result really reminds me of Donato, dunno why. If you have some steps (and time) of the progress I am sure we would all like to see them. Great art!
Lono
December 17th, 2002, 12:44 AM
Woah,,, someone deleted my post.
guess the joke i cracked didnt go over well.
humor is gambeling.. this time the house won,, and i gotta walk away with empty pockets.
sorry.
-Lono
Fipse
December 17th, 2002, 02:21 AM
Thanks fo your comment, Jason. As a wrap around cover the composition makes a lot more sense to me.
I really know what it is like working with picky customers - ding it at the moment myself ... but somehow youīve got to earn some money ;)
Fipse
BTW Whatīs a goon squad? My dictionary is leaving me alone ...
davi
December 17th, 2002, 03:07 AM
Beautiful piece, but there is no doubt a large amount of art facism, i mean direction to this piece. Doesn't seem like your work at all actually, but you gotta do what you gotta do, great piece though. I can tell you could have done much better if you were allowed.
Blackhawk
December 17th, 2002, 03:15 AM
Hey Jason, this is spectacular work. The sky is absolutely beautiful. I have one minor crit though, and I would appreciate your input on it. His gun arm with the veins seems too busy, especially where the bicep branches into the forearm. (don't know the name, sorry :(). The vein coming down into that spot from the bicep breaks it up too much in that spot to my eyes. The entire piece looks great, it's just my attention kept getting caught in that one area and it was vaguely bugging me.
Take care Jason, great to see you alive :D
Boom
December 17th, 2002, 05:55 AM
Very nice cover, Jason - I really like it. But I found your few thoughts on how to handle the subject, composition and 'popout'-requirement easily as interesting. Thanks abunch! ;)
bizarde
December 17th, 2002, 12:54 PM
In deed very comercial, but stil I love it, especially the imagefinalbig ;)
I love your style.
SilverStylus
December 17th, 2002, 01:10 PM
Fantastic work, as always Jason, and glad to see that you came out with such a beautiful work in spite of the heavy direction.
Imp Head
December 17th, 2002, 03:37 PM
Another nice piece Jason. Love the color range you've got going on. The orange of the rust plays nicely against the blue of the ghost and the sky and yet the entire piece holds together quite well.
Absolutely love the anatomy on the creatures and the face of the girl is quite well rendered. The guy leaves a little bit to be desired in a couple of spots, namely the girl holding arm and the legs are, to me, a little unfinished but the rest of him is spot on.
And as always you've really captured that Justin Sweet messiness that goes just to the point of definition without beating you over the head with it. Nice work!
There are a couple of areas I thought could use some improvement...
The first: The extreme tilt of the camera angle is giving me the pip. I think you've gone well past "Dynamic" and "Unnerving" and straight into "too much". I believe that that extreme a camera angle gives the whole picture a less than believable tilt. One solution that I thought would be quite interesting would be to turn the buildings in the background back to a more vertical position so we, the viewer, would be looking straight at a guy on a tilted building (do you like how I "tilted" the word tilted, lending credence to my argument? I RULE!) rather than looking a guy on a straight building through a tilted camera. I think this would load the picture with dynamic tension as the viewer flipped from the back to the front of the book until they finally figured out what was going on.
Secondly: You've got a whole lot of edge-to-edge spatial transgressions happening, (The most egregious being the claw/twisted metal/bite mark front and center near the guy's feet.) As you probably know tangents cause the image to "flatten" (Unfortunately I can't do a vertical scale to html type or I'd rule double plus good!) which can sap a lot of the dynamics out of a picture. They're easy to fix and I think will add a lot to the implied space.
And lastly: Though it is the back of the book and yes I understand the desire to just "Get the thing done", I feel that the left half of the image is severely lacking in any sort of visual impact. The two monstrosities are almost humorous in their stature and posess none of the drama and slavering, hideous, draw that the ones on the right do, lessening the impact of the tension you've developed on the right. I think by adding of a couple more creatures scaling the girders from below and to the left you'd give the sense that these two poor saps are really surrounded, instead of flanked while the flanker's retarded cousins look on.
Hope that helps. Rock on!
Brian
PS- How's Impressions Games treating you?
dodowa
December 17th, 2002, 04:16 PM
woooooo~~~:eek:
blue aureola of girl....meaningful!
maximum concept!!~:D
Archangelus
December 17th, 2002, 11:04 PM
To paraphrase what I told Feng...
"Manley is no ordinary demon...He is a god..."
I mean, do you people invoke dark majicks to get so good?!
For crying out loud...there's a price to pay for that you know?
It's called Hell! (lol) :p ;)
Kudos to ya Jason. Excellent work...You rock!
jaymz
December 18th, 2002, 03:58 AM
Sorry for not posting for so long...
Man, I haven't seen this piece in a while... It still looks very busy and art directed. I remember some of the earlier versions when it had more freshness, but that's not really something you can help when you have someone practically making change every stroke. We all have to go through it man...
Lesson to be learned, right?
daku
December 18th, 2002, 01:56 PM
I would like to see how the spirit would look if it was more translucent. It feels very solid, but that is nitpickins. Nice work.
Aleksi
December 18th, 2002, 02:17 PM
Extremely well rendered piece and artistic maestria!
The choices were not yours, already seen and too much "reached by concensus"
But it's not the real Jason Manley...
We all know it here :)
I hope for your next commissionned artpiece, the artistic director will let you go where you want to...I'm sure it will be even a lot more impressive !!
Always pleasure to look at your wondeful stuff and read your brilliant artistic thoughts and point of wiew
Patton Art
December 18th, 2002, 03:17 PM
yeah, this is some great stuff.
and it reminded me of Donato too... I dunno why.
Svanur
December 18th, 2002, 05:01 PM
This piece is just great, nothing I can imagine can be added to it.
Just wondering, is this in any relation to the Shadowrun RPG? The picture is very Shadowrunny.
Imp Head
December 18th, 2002, 10:56 PM
Shadowrunny
Boy, that sounds like me after one too many Hormel chilli dogs...
HOO ha!
B
daarken
December 19th, 2002, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Imp Head
Boy, that sounds like me after one too many Hormel chilli dogs...
HOO ha!
B
bwahahaha!
patton: yeah, it reminded me of donato as well. i think the colors did it for me...not sure though either.
Oblio
December 19th, 2002, 03:29 AM
Brian.. I always enjoy reading your posts. Whel will I have the pleasure to see another art piece from you? ;)
Jason - See master? Posting art is good. Who was telling you it's evil?
No excuse now... f*ck the NDA :D
Oblio
taff
December 19th, 2002, 11:06 AM
erm, yeah. Just seen this painting, and I like it - even though it's seeming a little stiff, guess the art directing left its scars.
keyth
December 19th, 2002, 08:41 PM
horrible...absolutely horrible.:p
David Freeman
May 4th, 2003, 02:16 AM
Jason,
That is the single best piece of art I've ever seen in my life. Whoever was the art director must have been some kind of genius. Even though I don't appreciate art directors who too heavily guide the artist they're working with, all I can say is that this particular art director really seems to know what he was doing. Some people have commented that the subject matter -- brawny guy rescuing woman in distress -- is a little cliche. Perhaps this is true, but your art, combined with his stunning art direction, makes this image vault to an artistic height where the word "cliche" doesn't even register. Where did this art director come up with these amazing ideas? I wish he'd bottle his creativity and sell it on the black market. I'd buy tons. I have no higher dream in life than to some day meet such a person and shake his hand, unworthy though I might be.
D.F.
DragonGX
May 4th, 2003, 04:00 AM
Was the Art Directors name David Freeman, perchance?
BTW - the image wont load anymore..
Happeh
May 4th, 2003, 10:18 AM
or someone david freeman is acquainted with? ;)
Jason Manley
May 4th, 2003, 11:20 AM
HAHAHAHA!!!
Leia
May 4th, 2003, 11:26 AM
paging Jason Manley
endregan
May 4th, 2003, 04:41 PM
yay a red x. famous!
Grooveholmes
May 4th, 2003, 06:28 PM
Damn, i want to see it.
slimjimer
May 4th, 2003, 08:27 PM
please bring it back, I always get too late to these things and I am plagued with red X's.
Avetice
May 4th, 2003, 10:26 PM
now this is the true evil, even more evil than the art director =P....and that evil is the red x where an image should be instead.
please dont let this travesty continue, kill mr red x and put the image back up again :D
oh oh and i seemed to recall an agreement, but /me stares at his title, it never seemed to be fulfilled. :D
ceenda
May 5th, 2003, 04:11 AM
[x]
:(
gallon
May 5th, 2003, 06:44 AM
gah, I've been checking this thread three days in a row now, just to see this "red X " Please ...make it work :thumbsup: !
Payback
May 6th, 2003, 01:20 PM
Hehe, I did the same thing until I noticed he posted it at december last year. :doh:
Nordstrand, T
May 6th, 2003, 02:00 PM
I guess I'm not the only guy who grabbed it when it was around. I'd be happy to host it, but somehow I don't think Jason took it down because of web space.
David Freeman
May 6th, 2003, 02:17 PM
I spoke to Jason last night. He explained that the image isn't up for technical reasons, which he'll try to rectify soon. But he agrees that the world shouldn't be denied the piece.
amphex
May 6th, 2003, 08:13 PM
I am so sad right now =\
amphex
May 8th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Any word on when it will be back up? I really cant afford to miss this piece after such great feedback!
AmadorL
May 9th, 2003, 01:26 PM
I never got to check it out. What's crack'n? When is it come'n back up?
bbwolf
May 10th, 2003, 10:37 AM
I cant see it. Where is it???
morphine
May 11th, 2003, 02:17 PM
It's at the very same place.
Just save it to your harddrive and open it on Photoshop.
It's a cmyk file. :)
garg
May 11th, 2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by morphine
It's at the very same place.
Just save it to your harddrive and open it on Photoshop.
It's a cmyk file. :)
Are you sure you aren't seeing the cached image?
morphine
May 11th, 2003, 02:30 PM
Sure I am.
I just downloaded it.[ right-click and save me ] (http://www.conceptart.org/xs/bookcoverfreeman.jpg)
Reilly
May 11th, 2003, 03:07 PM
Yeah, it worked for me, just open it in Photoshop.
It looks pretty cool, what book's it for?
--Reilly
slimjimer
May 11th, 2003, 03:20 PM
when I try to right click and save, save target is grayed out. In fact I haven't been able to right click save anything in a while. Anyone know what might be wrong?
Nordstrand, T
May 11th, 2003, 03:25 PM
The link provided by Morphine above works, just rightclick -> save.
ceenda
May 11th, 2003, 04:01 PM
slimjimer: http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q176316 - hope this helps.
jason: Great pic! One question. I notice that your work is always very saturated with extremes of blue and orange. Is this just a personal preference or is there some methodology behind it apart from the obvious complementary colours?
David Freeman
May 11th, 2003, 05:21 PM
Can't you put it up as a low-res jpg? For those of us who don't have the software to open CMYK files?
Thanks,
DF
Erik
May 11th, 2003, 05:31 PM
Probably CMYK or something?
The image soo rocks Jason, congratulations!
EDIT: David, are there really people here without PS? How can you live? ;-) It works in Windows pictureviewer too
Jason Manley
May 11th, 2003, 11:06 PM
thanks everyone..iI dont know why the image wont show up. I linked it properly and it is up on conceptart...it just wont load for some reason. Ill have to try moving it to a new location.
the image is the cover for for david freemans new book Creating Emotion in Video Games from New Riders Publishing. I dont know how much i can tell other than there is going to be a lot of art in the book from artists you all are very familiar with.
dave here is the top screenwriting instructor in the country. check out what he does at www.beyondstructure.com
he has also become the games industry expert in story development and has worked for many of the major publishers...including activision and EA and Universal. He is a wealth of knowledge and is an absolute master of promotion. Watch for his name on the big games...its going to be on many of them for a long time.
so thats the intro....
with all those amazing credentials...I think its time to get dsl david...and photoshop and a good monitor. after all..man can not live on dialup alone. with dsl we dont have to snail mail artwork ever again. with a good monitor you can see it. with photoshop, you can change the image resolution with a hit of a button.
cheers
heheheheh
j
morphine
May 12th, 2003, 12:27 AM
:mumble: CMYK images won't show up on your browser.
My link has the exact location of the file Jason put online.
I just copied its URL and put it as a link, so you can right-click and save.
There's no need to move the file.
Just re-save it as an RGB file and you're done.
Or save it for web on Photoshop. (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S)
btw, nice pic, Jason.
Ant4d
May 12th, 2003, 03:29 AM
thanks morphine.:chug:
Jason, your work is amazing.:evilbat:
David Freeman
May 12th, 2003, 03:59 AM
For those of you in Los Angeles, or who live elsewhere but have access to a good magazine stand...
Jason's art will be printed in this Wednesday's issue of "Daily Variety," one of the daily film trades. It will accompany an article I wrote on how to bring emotion into games.
Actually, Jason spoiled some fun I was going to have regarding the book. I was going to answer a previous question about the book by posting a note here which said,
"Jason's art is the cover for a new government book on the containment and eradication of extra-terrestrial biological entities, being prepared by the Department of Defense. DOD classifies aliens into five groups: lizard-like aliens; creature-like aliens; shape-shifting aliens; aliens who do medical experiments on humans and animals; and telepathic aliens. Jason's painting, which is reprinted in the book, demonstrates the recommended procedure for managing hostile creature-type aliens. This book is expected to become a staple for anyone who has had an encounter with a hostile extra-terrestrial, or who anticipates having one in the near future."
MindCandyMan
May 12th, 2003, 07:39 AM
"Jason's art is the cover for a new government book on the containment and eradication of extra-terrestrial biological entities, being prepared by the Department of Defense. DOD classifies aliens into five groups: lizard-like aliens; creature-like aliens; shape-shifting aliens; aliens who do medical experiments on humans and animals; and telepathic aliens. Jason's painting, which is reprinted in the book, demonstrates the recommended procedure for managing hostile creature-type aliens. This book is expected to become a staple for anyone who has had an encounter with a hostile extra-terrestrial, or who anticipates having one in the near future."
hehehheheh...I would have cracked up
Jason's art will be printed in this Wednesday's issue of "Daily Variety," one of the daily film trades. It will accompany an article I wrote on how to bring emotion into games
That's awesome. Congratulations to both of you.
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