Sheikh

[kerembeyit]

http://www.jamesbaird.com/users/0000023032/artwork/hNRz3ScnhQ.jpg

SHEIKH

Ruthless Sheikh and his bad-ass guards. Pencil, Ink, PS7 (Mouse). 40 hours. Enjoy and please click the full version for more detail. C&C are welcome.

References: Some Arabian titles.

Sheikh Full version:
FULL VERS. (http://members.lycos.co.uk/ebrehe/sheikh%20full%20version.jpg)

Thanks

Kerem

EDIT: I solve the 404 problem.

[WildSpruceMoose]

I am REALLY feeling this. I just think it has a wonderful atmosphere, great twisted anatomy and the monotone helps the work a lot. tats and symbols look awesome and this is just badass. Those guards are, in my mind/world, believable and I wish I had them =D

[unknown]

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[Brutillus]

one hell of a badass pic!! I love the guards, I love the colors, I love everything!

[Lars Gottliby]

Hm. I feel someone should reply to this. I humbly ask permission to say a few words:

Being a lurker here means noone knows me, and so I have little to lose by replying. So I supply my real name, to show you I mean this.

The trouble I have with your message here is that you take offense at nothing, and that you try to censor your fellow man. That you don't dare to show your face in so doing, does not support your opinion at all.

Should I, a christian, take offense, when a very obviously caucasian vampire wears a cross, the very symbol of the suffering of christ, around her neck? I don't, and I shouldn't.

If you speak out of a misunderstood impression that christians always portray arabians as villains, go watch the Arabian Nights movie.

Don't try to censor people. If you want the right to speak your mind, you have to give others the right to speak theirs too.

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About the picture:
I love it; just fits the bill to what I need. The reason I come here is looking for inspiration for another kind of art: I'm a game master in a roleplaying game, and currenly my dear protagnists are in prehistoric Iraq, where they have just saved a rich merchant's daughter from a fate worse than death: An economically secure future (o:

This will be the portrait of the villain of the piece, he just gained two formidable bodyguards.

It's got great textures, the script follow the shapes nicely, and both guards and sheik have great facal expressions.

If I were to give suggestions, which I do, knowing I could never come close to this quality - my talents in drawing are poor - I'd say that the legs of the Sheik look odd to me, and that the guard to the left has a weird jaw.

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I thank you for letting me speak here.

[sylver]

Originally posted by unknown
hi good piece BUT ur using arabic text refering to the names of GOD.. in this picture which is insulting and degrading God and the religion of islam.

The "shiek" is shown as an evil charactor with this evil guards with the tatoos that are Quranic text.

I dont know what you are trying to portray but in future or maybe as it is in ps7 you should remove those Quranic verse's because Islam is a religion of peace and portraying evil with Islam is a big INSULT.

As it seems ur from turkey so i can see that ur idea comes from ur surroundings. But with comman sense maybe you should do some research before picking up any arabic text you see and placing it where u feel its looks right.

You have good artistic skill but you clearly do not understand religion.

If i had put the same charactors and imbeded Jesus name on them and some other religios text.. that would combine evil with those religons too. Which i think would not be taken lightly with people.

I am sorry if u think i am being rude or harsh but as i know the meaning of the text it is very INULTING. pls refrane from doing it in again. thanxs

You sir are way to serious, lighten up it's a picture, and if he wants to make a religion look evil its his picture to do so with, if you don't like it don't look at it. Jeez some people....just way too heavy...

anyway I love that picture it reminds me of a game I used to play.

[Boris]

I see his point though it is not carried out as well as I would.

Im Russian, and whenever i see an American movie showing Russians as villians, they always have writing or signs which are total nonesence. That makes me laugh because the creators obviously did not care to research at all. Thats how i see it.

If i was ever to draw a picture with writing in language foreign to me, i would definately research beforehand.

I dont see why you are do offended! In fact, ive never seen any religion but islam take great offence to little things like pictures.

[kerembeyit]

Thank you for your comments people... Well, first of all, i have to clear this insult thing... I cannot believe it...

The "shiek" is shown as an evil charactor with this evil guards with the tatoos that are Quranic text.

Well i used arabic text for my visual appetites, and i show it to my father (He's Muslim.) and he liked it and take no offence to those text, because he's knows that's just a friggin picture, he is a modern muslim unlike those puritans... And last time i checked there is no rule or law such as "Evil men can not use quranic texts as a tattoo."

And nevermind the fact that there is no rule such as evil men cannot use or wear quaranic text, Who said that he's and his guard is evil? God! Who said that? I just said "ruthless" and i didn't say anything about his guards. That is you who see them evil, not me... You people are all the same. Looking and Seeing "evil" at everything like this picture. This just a picture, i don't belive that you are take this as a insult to islam. And i know the meanings of those text, surprised? Oh, you are lucky that my english is very bad, i have to say lot of things but i cannot.

If i was ever to draw a picture with writing in language foreign to me, i would definately research beforehand.

Like i said i know the meanings, they're mostly sections of the Quran.

In fact, ive never seen any religion but islam take great offence to little things like pictures.

Goddamn right!


I'd say that the legs of the Sheik look odd to me, and that the guard to the left has a weird jaw.

Odd... Yeah, you're right i think. I wanted to velvet pants but i couldn't achieve it. About the jaw, he's a huge sized fella and i exaggerated all of his body parts.

Thank you for your comments.

Kerem

[Miau]

good words, kerembeyit and Lars Gottliby, this is a very nice illustration.

[emperor_boy]

I see that this image is very popular, and I agree, for the most part, though I would have to say that I feel the shadows are too dark, and too *black*. It seems to add a bit of unpleasant dinginess to the image.

Otherwise, awesome work.

[Dementist]

Hah... the left ogre has a great "You wanna f*ck with me?" expression.

No comment on the religious stuff.

As for the pic, my only crits would be that the sheik's left hand looks a little too big, even when you consider the foreshortning. Also, his legs, although not anatomically incorrect, are a little dull, since the both look identical. But great piece, anyway.

[kerembeyit]

Dementist, you are right about sheikh's left hand. But i don't think his legs are anatomically incorrect. Yeah they're incorrect but not anatomically:). I purposefully exaggerated them. But they are too long even when you consider the "cartoon style anatomical freedom":) and doesn't fit the general shape.

Hah... the left ogre has a great "You wanna f*ck with me?" expression.

Yeah, my point exactly:)

Thank you for your comments.

[Scubasteve]

Is this a concept art forum or a religious discussion forum? As a Christian myself, I have seen things on this board, that I may not necessarily agree with, but I realize that not everyone shares my views and are free to express themselves for better or for worse. So I critique it from a purely artistic perspective. If I am truly offended, I just don't post anything. So in the future, how about we comment on the artistic values of a piece or use one of our other rights, our right to remain silent. Ok?

[Montross]

I really love the pic man, when I first glanced at it I was captuerd by its beauty. I hate when people nit-pick a drawing and try to throw in some racial or religious uproar. Why can't they just apreciate the drawing for what it is. People have the freedom to draw what ever the hell they want. Anywho, great work Kerem:chug:

[Summer Pudding]

Is it a scene from Scheherazade? It's got that whole 1001 Nights thing about it.

I like it. If you can afford a Wacom, get one. Your work rate will go through the roof.

[egerie]

404.. DAMN !

[kerembeyit]

I solve the 404 problem. Enjoy.

[Epoch]

Very nice piece u have here. I am not worthy of your presence. The Mood and Atmosphere of this piece is fantastic, and the textures denote considerable skill.
One thing about the Religious stuff... People who see things, especially artwork, as offensive need to get a life or get a sense of humor. Seriously, this reminds me of that dude here in the states who was all pissed off that his Daughter was being "forced" to say "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. I swear, if I see this guy on the streets, I'm gonna break his friggin knee caps. He obviously had NOTHING better to do than to take judicial action against this crime... which during his 30+ year lifespan had never bothered him enough to complain about before.
Anyway... what were we talkin about?

[reeves]

You have skill.
You paint well.
But your sense of design is questionable but existent.

Here’s the way I analyzed your painting:
After looking at it for 2 seconds, I can safely say that you have skills. There’s no doubt about that.

But now, let us remove the Photoshop manipulated calligraphic texts.
What do you see now?
Not such a good picture anymore.

Not to pretend that I know better than anyone, but to me...the picture looks a little cheap [not intending to insult anyone or any religion]. Here’s why:

I'm looking at the picture as a whole, and the level at which the calligraphy is written and the piece is executed are vastly different. Your painting skills are obviously good...but the calligraphy that you've manipulated [I'm saying manipulated because I don't believe you can write this well...correct me if I'm wrong]. I have friends, who can write in Arabic, and some are incredible calligraphers, and they could never achieve a level of calligraphy this good.

I am not anti-Photoshop: I just think your picture looks very unbalanced to the eye.

Just my two cents

Keep the goods coming [no manipulations this time please :nono: ]

Cheers,
Reeves

[Octave13]

I don't think the calligraphy makes the overall image better, though it does admittedly have some aesthetic appeal. The style really jumped out at me. The light and shade is very nicely done. I like the color, but I will say it is a bit too monochrome. Because of that, the character standing in the center of the image wasn't apparent to me until I looked at it a few times. He blends in with the guards. I think a heavier use of blacks or maybe a more contrasting color on the middle character would make him stand out more. Also, work on your hands. Other than that, I really like this piece.

[kerembeyit]

reeves, Mmm, some heavy words... First of all i'm not a fan of my own works and i'm not a defensive guy but believe me you are way to offensive. You remove the calligraphic texts and not such a good picture anymore is that so? So why am i bothered with the rest of it for god's sake? I should have just send the calligraphic texts right?:)

[I'm saying manipulated because I don't believe you can write this well...correct me if I'm wrong].

You are not wrong but i wrote in the description that i used some Arabic titles as reference. And what's wrong with it by the way? I don't think that's against the rules, as a matter of fact, i don't believe in rules. Some months ago one of you guys told me that there's nothing wrong with using photos as reference (Apologize topic.). And i do believe now he's right, and i picked up some calligraphic texts and manipulated them (That's not that easy.) i am not a caligrapher you know. Many artist using photos as reference. And wyh do i have to write those calligraphic texts by myself? That's not even an intelligent act. Anyway, thak you for your analysis, but you analyzed it all wrong sorry.

Keep the goods coming [no manipulations this time please ]

Well, if that's an order, aye aye sir:) Let me tell you something my firend, I'm not a rich guy, i don't have a wacom tablet or airbrush set or fancy brushes and colours. Just me, my pencil and my PS7 allright? Send me a Wacom Intuos2 A4 Platinum Edition or better and i will do better works otherwise please don't call my works "cheap". I really offended that word. I mean, how dare you man?

Summer Pudding, this is not it but the concept is similar. About wacom, in my country that's not that easy man. But, i don't know maybe reeves get me one, haw about that?

Octave13, you are right about middle character. Thank you for your polite comment.

to all, thank you for your advices and critiques (Polite ones.) Thank you all:) I will improve myself and send better works. Sorry for my bad eng, I hope i explain myself correctly.

Best

Kerem

[gallon]

Ofcourse there is nothing wrong taking the text and wrap it around in PS... I thought you had made the text yourself, wacom-style. To manipulate normal text like that must take forever, and require skills in that field. As I see it, the end result is always the important... If you can take a shortcut, use it... sooner or later you will be pressed for time and deadline... and then you have a quick-fix in your sleeve.

I didn't even notice the text before reading the first comment on it, so I'd say the image is standing on it's own with/without text. I guess the written part is only 10% of the finish piece.
Ya, keep 'em coming :)

[Red_Rook]

sorry the website you are looking for is no longer available. I WANNA SEEEE IIIITTT:bash:

[bat]

Excellent illustration, kerembeyit! The monotone effect is well rendered and the lighting through the woodwork on the lower right is very well done. I would disagree with reeves in that I feel that this is a well done piece of work, with or without the text. The lighting is well done, and it reminds me somewhat of the art of Clint Langley who does a lot of work for Games Workshop and who had worked for the now defunct Crucible game. The only component that jumps out to me is the top of the arch, the stones receding are at too much of an angle, unless these characters are outside of a narrowing tunnel.

Keep posting!

b a t

[kerembeyit]

gallon, thank you man:)

Red_Rook, you can't see the picture or just the full version? I'll fix the full version link right now.

bat, thank you:) I will check it out Clint Langley guy. And you're right about gate's angle:( I have lot of errors on this picture i know, and i'm still learning.

Kerem

[bat]

Yes, there are a few little errors here and there, but the overall impression is very well done. Many people here like to dissect every finger joint that is out of place, but they do not consider that many of those famous artists who came before have work rife with serious flaws, either of proportion or composition or some other facet of art and illustration. I don't think most people who buy or appreciate most of the work you see out in the market really worry about every error here and there, and if you look about, you will see that this is quite obvious. I would wager that most consumers never consider the value of composition or the value of complimenting negative space and subject. Either they "get it"or they don't. Your work is very well done and just as good as many of the other artist's/illustrator's work showcased here. I could easily see this piece as a book or rpg cover that could sell the product on the art alone.

bat