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painterskeys
May 12th, 2004, 06:48 PM
http://www.painterskeys.com/clickbacks/survey.asp

Yesterday a friend phoned and brought my attention to a study done at the Harvard Medical Center. It seems that nurture, not nature, is the big factor in the making of creative genius. Talent and genius are not inherited. These were the findings of Dr. Albert Rothenberg, the principle author of the study. Thirty years of research concluded that creative intelligence is due largely to parents' own unfulfilled dreams of high creative achievement. Researchers used Nobel Prize laureates, Booker and Pulitzer Prize winners, and other cultural and literary awards as evidence of literary genius. These were measured against eminent persons in non-creative occupations. Less than 1% of the eminently creative types had eminently creative parents. This compared, in one example, with 16% for non-creative folks who turned out to have one or both parents in the same profession.

Older studies--notably the work of 19th century psychologist Sir Francis Galton, had concluded that talent and genius were inherited. The founder of the Eugenics movement, Galton was working with mainly British aristocracy where primogeniture and the continuation of father-son professions were the norm. In the Harvard study, it seems that "being read to or told stories by parents or grandparents" was the most important indicator of future literary stardom.

Accepting that visual art achievement is a little harder to quantify, early art appreciation and parental approval of creative effort may be of the highest value. In the interest of grabbing some facts, we've devised a questionnaire to see if Rothenberg's conclusions might apply to us. You can find it at:

http://www.painterskeys.com/clickbacks/survey.asp

Bammer
May 14th, 2004, 12:34 AM
Filled out the questionnaire. I 100% beleive artistic ability is all nurture. However I have to disagree with you when you said "early art appreciation and parental approval of creative effort may be of the highest value." A person can be nurtured into being an artist through discouragment just as well as encouragment. Often generations are reactions of each other, and nothing will spur a kids artistic ambition more than a deep loathing of the life of their artless parental units.

painterskeys
May 18th, 2004, 06:58 PM
thanks for the thought Bammer.

it's true that sometime the discrepancy between parents and children can lead to rebelious choices(won't do like mom and dad). The survey results also show that grandparents' influences light the creative fire inside their grandkids.

I think artistic activities are very beneficial during the development of a child. Whether it leads to a career or not, the encouragement will enrich the child's upbringing and broaden his/her horizons.

in case you haven't seen the survey results and some of the published comments, please visit:
http://www.painterskeys.com/clickbacks/survey_results.asp

WildSpruceMoose
May 21st, 2004, 10:10 AM
Yeah, I got that in Robert Glenn's newsletter for artists =D Filled it out. I believe that artistic genius is almost 100% nurture and hard work. There are some people(child prodigies) who have this natural visual accuity that allows them to develop much faster. When they have the basics learned by 8(I think that was picasso and his dad quit art over it) they just move on. Interesting thing is, his dad was an artist, so he was around art for much of his developing years. Frank Lloyd Wright(best architect ever) had a crib surrounded by models of the best architecture the world had ever seen.

Interesting eh? The difference between an artist and a non-artist is normally simply the drive to create. It is fairly safe to assume, that given the right training and a lot of time, almost anyone can develop the visual accuity and muscle memory to to art well, but not everyone may want to. It sort of trivializes the artists who drew like 8 hours a day when people tell them "I wish I were born with that gift." doesn't it? Just some thoughts =)

darth massacre
May 23rd, 2004, 11:43 AM
I too agree its nurture all the way.

My mom didn't like me drawing. My grandparents died before I got seriously interested in drawing as a hobby (I was about 11). So they were non-factors. My friends and teachers in school however encouraged me to draw more often.....I guess some teachers regretted it eventually coz I barely scrapped thru school. :D

But it took 1 teacher to push me all the way till where I am today. She just said, you shouldn't keep what you're good at to yourself. She encouraged us to draw.

Lost contact with the amazing woman, but haven't looked back since.

Hagac
May 30th, 2004, 07:59 PM
I suppose I'm the exception. My artistic ability growing up was lambasted by my parents, specifically my dad. I never really took it seriously because of that, or had any confidence about the artwork I did make.

Oh well, fuck it. I got hired at Blizzard strait out of school so damn everyone who said I couldnt do it. Specifically all my Stepdads/dads.