draw human figure without references?

[atsbomb]

Hi, I have some stuff and some question.

http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/atsbomb/Daily%20Sketch/?action=view&current=LoomisPractice.jpg

http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/atsbomb/Daily%20Sketch/?action=view&current=fromImagination.jpg

http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/atsbomb/Daily%20Sketch/?action=view&current=fromImagination2.jpg

http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/atsbomb/Daily%20Sketch/?action=view&current=fromImagination3.jpg

I think all drawing has problem about propotion. But I'm not sure which part is bad. Maybe head is too small? Please point me out which part looks wrong.



And here is question.
I'm now doing practice which is just drawing from my imagination without any model in front of me. I know this practice is not good, I'd better do sketch from real life. But I'm just wondering how professinal animators can draw the reliable human figure without reference. I want to be a animator. I mean I want to be a person who can draw the human figure from imagination.
Please let me know if there is good way to practice.

Thanks.
-a

[fredflickstone]

You go to school and study the figure every day until you work. Thats quite a long time. It becomes intuitive. And they use reference too, they use themselves as actors and work out the problem physically. DOnt draw from the head as studies, draw from the head as ideas, draw from your head also if you have an exercise specifically in mind. Otherwise, draw from life.

[AmadorL]

your sketches are pretty good i was looking at the hand studies and i love them,.
Did you use your own hand or used a ref for those?
Good luck and draw and then draw and when your finished draw some more.

-A:chug:

[atsbomb]

Thank you for your reply.

fredflickstone:
If you'd watch this thread again, please let me make sure what's exact "as ideas" mean. You mean I'd better draw it from head roughly? or uncompletely? I'm sorry I didn't get it. I know your work(great! love it!). That's why I wanna know your exact clear meaning if I don't bother you.
Anyway I'm attending school right now and I've just finished 1st year. Now I really feel I need more time to learn the human figure deeply. I will go to workshop as many times as I can.


AmadorL:
Thank you. For the hand practice, I used my hand as a reference. I will upload new work when I get.

[Main Loop]

im sure he means, say you have an idea you wanna get down, say a character crouching, or falling off a motorcycle, etc, scribble down the idea as a quick thumbnail or something, just to have a visual record of an idea.. save the referece for fleshing out detail.. you dont wanna have an idea then forget it in the process of waiting for good refence to come along

[atsbomb]

Thank you Main Loop. So sorry for late reply.

Then okay, now I see. Your word "visual record of an idea" makes me clear.
Now I feel using reference is not so bad, I still don't want to make rotoscoping or exact copy from photo though.

-a