What are some of the art books that have inspired you or helped your work? library?

[Bojee]

What are the art books that have inspired you or helped your work?
I know that there are a lot of you guys that are as obsessed with adding good art books to your library as I am, so was wondering if you have any recomendations.

I'll start it off; "Hawthorne On Painting"? . It's just a small little book with notes from some of Charles W. Hawthorne's classes( a contemporary of William Merit Chase, I believe) . It's got sections on the outdoor model, "still life", landscape, indoor model, and water color. It's super cheap ( under 10$), very small, but very dense, and a little zen.

Also Robert Henri's "The Art Spirit", it's in the same vein as Hawthorne's book. Both are old school but the thoughts still apply and you should be able to find them at used bookstores.

Finally in a more straight forward vein, I like "Proven Strategies For Creating Great Art " by Dan McCaw, great stuff very straight forward and informative about painting in oils, but the lessons apply elsewhere as well.

I'll try to bring in pictures of these books when I get a chance.

Alright I'm back, here you go.

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[The Iconoclast]

"The Art of Warcraft"

:D

No seriously...just looking at the seemingly raw sketches and some of the more finished pieces and seeing the commentary and the creation of a game world is inspiring to me. It all depends on what stimulates you, man. :)

I also like to browse KChen's thread and some stuff from strych9ine over at Photoshoptechniques.com don't tell him I said that

[Bojee]

Originally posted by The Iconoclast
"The Art of Warcraft"

:D

No seriously...just looking at the seemingly raw sketches and some of the more finished pieces and seeing the commentary and the creation of a game world is inspiring to me. It all depends on what stimulates you, man. :)

I also like to browse KChen's thread and some stuff from strych9ine over at Photoshoptechniques.com don't tell him I said that

"The Art of Warcraft" Hmm, I'll look for it, and I totally agree that it's what stimulates "you".

I just thought some of these books we might end up talking about might stimulate or inspire other people. Gotta share the wealth! Thanks for posting! :D

Can you bring in a photo so people know what to look for?-B

[Bojee]

Oh yeah kchen's stuff rocks! couldn't agree more!

[The Iconoclast]

Here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0744000815/qid=1083374442/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-7121455-8430552?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) is an Amazon link to the book. It's not THAT expensive, but it's good to use the "Look Inside the Book" feature before buyin' anything :)

Also, here (http://www.mindspring.com/~drwise/images/conceptart%20nightelves.jpg) is another little scan of a page of the book.

[Bojee]

Iconoclast-Thanks, If you like that you might like these guys.:D

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0486200248.01._SCTZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Heinrich Kley

http://www.bpib.com/images/catcovr2.gif
Franklin Booth

http://www.bpib.com/images/coll.jpg
Joseph Clement Coll

All three do amazing line work! :D

[Bojee]

You also might want check out www.bpib.com ( Bud Plant Illustrated Books ) They have bios on all the old school illustrators and some new too, I think you might find some of their work inspiring.

[Darkstrider]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0891343377.01._PE30_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Keys to Drawing, Bert Dodson.

Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0891343377/qid=1083401145/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-5400525-6984950?v=glance&s=books

What I really like about this one is it's about how to draw exactly what you see... no anatomy or anything, basically how to really look at things and techniques for doing contour drawings and drawing without looking at the paper. Really helps to loosen up your approach.

[Bojee]

Darkstrider- Thanks I'll look for it. Looks good. what I love is that most of the ones we've mention so far would be pretty inexpensive to add to your library.:D

[Bojee]

Here are a couple more that I think are good.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/078948045X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This book By Sarah Simblet is just beautiful in it's design as well as having some great information. It could be called Anatomy of "Beautiful People" cause the models are amazing examples of what the human body can be. Quite a bit of eye candy.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0131830481.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This book by Nathan Goldstein on drawing the figure is easily one of the best I've seen out there, thorough, bringing in many great but obscure artists as examples to the different ways to approach it.

A nice combination of good text and interesting visuals. :D

[wallychairmover]

i just picked up this book that's been really useful lately. It's by boris vallejo and julie bell of all people. It's called

Fantasy Workshop: A practical guide

it covers color useage and layout pretty good and simply with some step by step images.

[Bojee]

Cool Wally- I used to be a big fan of Boris's work and then my tastes started to change. I started to get away from the slicker finished stuff but I'd love to see how he breaks it down. Not sure I've seen this particular book, but I'll look for it. Can you bring in a link or pic??

Frazetta always will be the man for me though. Best of both worlds,Sci-Fi/ fantasy stuff combined with a classical painter, I love how his stuff still holds up today

Have you seen "Painting With Fire" Yet?? A documentary on Frank.
Pretty cool , the pacing is a little slow but it's good to learn more about him.

Thanks for sharing.:D

http://frazettaartgallery.com/ff/hp/video.jpg

[cateaic]

Any Starwars conceptart book

Andrew Loomis Figure Drawing For All Its Worth

Monstruo!!! The Art of Carlos Huantes

uhhh...cant think of any others at the moment...

[Bojee]

cateaic- Got all the first three starwars books, especially like them for storyboarding examples.

I've seen bits and pieces of the Loomis book but I don't have it, sounds like everyones bible. Gotta download it.http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1560100095.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Carlos Huante- damn dude I had never heard of him before, his shit is dope! Gotta pick this one up

http://www.designstudiopress.com/books/images/monstruo_cover.jpg

Found his stuff at www.designstudiopress.com , looks like a cool place. There were some other books there that looked good;

http://www.designstudiopress.com/books/images/conceptdesign_cover.jpg

http://www.designstudiopress.com/books/images/drawvehicles_cover.gif

Do you have them?? Thanks for the recomendation. :D

[Bojee]

For future posts if you guys could bring in pics or links to the books your recomending I'd appreciate it. We're all visual people and it just helps with the recomendation.

If you could also say why you like it I'd appeciate that also, in some ways that's almost more important since I want your opinion why we should check it out.

It'll just save me some time,and I spend enough time on here as it is. :)

Those that already have, thank you.:)

Keep'em coming, this is starting to be pretty cool. :thumbsup:

[Darkstrider]

Bojee, I'll bet you're already familiar with Phil Hale, right? Here's his newest book called Goad; the many moods of Phil Hale
http://images.budplant.com/products/full/13648.jpg
You can see a few pics (and buy) at this link:
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It's only the second book of his work, the first being the incredible Double Memory, in conjunction with another of my favorites; Rick Berry. That book is available at Amazon
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1880418053.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1880418053/qid=1083480291/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-5400525-6984950?v=glance&s=books (http://www.budplant.com/prod.itml/icOid/13648)


Here's a great site featuring lots of Rick Berry work http://www.braid.com/Androidiaei-0.htm (http://)

.....Reasons? Well, I guess just because these guys are some of the best cutting edge artist/illustrators of recent memory, and looking at their stuff is totally inspirational for me. In Double Memory there's a section of drawings that are mind boggling in their confidence and sureness at capturing gesture.

Then of course, Im sure everybody knows about Jeff Jones:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1887424571.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1887424571/ref=sr_1_1/102-5400525-6984950?v=glance&s=books&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&vi=pictures&img=5#more-pictures
IMO the finest of the 70's fantasy illustrators to stand in the mighty shadow of Frazetta. His work is more lyrical that Franks, more poetic:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1887424571.01.IN02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1887424571.01.IN05.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
And he was a sort of godfather to Kent Williams

[Bojee]

Darkstrider- Now we're talkin, I love all these guys for the same reasons. I just got " Goad " with Foster's book " Progressions", but everybody knows about that one right?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1556346263.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Now Jeff Jones work is amazing, I first saw his stuff in " The Studio "
"With Bernie Wrightson, Barry Windsor-Smith and Michael Kaluta, Jones formed The Studio@. This 2000 square foot loft was shared by the four artists, but the hoped-for synergy seldom happened." quote from www.bpib.com, tried to find a pic but it's so hard to find these days.
And then later in his first solo publication on his work.I forget the title on that one too , I've got them both but they're in storage.

It's really sad that he's had a nervous breakdown. Ashley Wood is supposed to be working on a tribute publication to help him out.:(

DS we've definitely got the same sort of taste.
Thanks for the great addition.:D

[Darkstrider]

God, I HATE you!!! :bash:

...You've got The Studio???!!! Man, I have spent half my life searching for that book! Oh, well, at least now I've got the 2 Jones books (the first one was called Age of Innocence: the Romantic Art of Jeffrey Jones) and Opus by Windsor-Smith. Man, talk about a guy having a breakdown... have you read any of the text in that book? I think Barry Winsor-Smith has been having flashbacks since the 60's! Strange stuff, but great art. Actually, I didn't know about Jones having a breakdown, but I don't find it all that surprising. He's had a rough life. I always could tell from his art that there was something very strange about him, but I didn't fully understand it until I got the new book (the one I linked to above) and read that he had become a transsexual. The cover picture says it all... I guess that's his Anima leaning over his shoulder, or his alter ego. It explains a lot about the sometimes genderless figures, and the feminine males in his art. It's kinda scary, how many of my art idols have suffered these breakdowns.

About Wrightson, another Studio alum, I finally got ahold of his Frankenstein, and it just blows me away!! That's one I couldn't find for many years but finally located... got myself an old edition for like $50.00 just before I found out it was being reprinted! D-OHH!!!

When my copy of Goad came in Iremember going through it and kinda freakin' because all the figures in it seem like cadavers. It's oddly compelling... here they are, walking around and stuff, but their flesh seems to be diseased or dead, and the hands are clenched in contorted spasms. And it's ridiculous how well Hale can paint!

Speaking of inspirational art books, everybodu ought to check out Dover Publications: http://store.doverpublications.com/
They have a great selction of books on a huge range of artists, and the price is definitely right. A great way to build up your library without breaking the bank (especially if you can score used copies of these on ebay or Amazon). They have a really fantastic selection of books on the art of Aurthur Rackham:
http://store5.yimg.com/I/doverpublications_1789_499784799

[Bojee]

DS- Yeah I've got it :D, I didn't know it was that rare until I was looking for a picture of it to talk about it.

I've got quite a few rare books that I've inherited or have found in used bookstores, unfortunately a lot of them got a little trashed when we had the earthquake up here.I need to take better care of them.

"(the first one was called Age of Innocence: the Romantic Art of Jeffrey Jones)" I've got this one too, thanks for the reminder, I love that book, It's great to see the progression in that one when he's more Frazetta influenced and then he comes into his own.
The transgender stuff, yeah I just heard about that recently so I thought that came around the same time as the breakdown. I just went to his website and it sounds
like he's doing better.

http://www.ulster.net/~jonesart/apology.jpg

I used to think after reading the studio that Jones was one of the more "normal" of the 4, whatever that is, but I think all of them were and are a little out there. Kick ass artists though and to me that's all that matters.

Berni Wrightson's Frankenstein is sick! Oh my god what an amazing book, I've had that one for a while but what a classic. The compositions and the amount of detail is crazy. It easily bumped him up to one of my favorites.

http://a1055.g.akamai.net/f/1055/1401/5h/images.barnesandnoble.com/images/1670000/1679822.gif
again really hard to find an image.

"It's kinda scary, how many of my art idols have suffered these breakdowns." yeah mine too , don't think I want to follow in that trend.
:)

Thanks for the Dover link , it's perfect for what I'm trying to get going here. I use a lot of their books when I teach so my good ones don't get trashed.

I'm glad your bringing up Rackham, I wanted to talk about the old school illustrators. Didn't he do arabian nights or a aladdin? I remember liking that stuff a lot.
Do you know Dean Cornwells stuff?
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1888054433.01._SCTZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Or Harvey Dunn? Saul Tepper ? Mead Shaeffer?Walter Everett? and N.C. Wyeth of course.
all these guys are from the "Brandywine School" which Howard Pyle taught.There's a book called
"The Brandywine School" that's really cool if you can find it, it talks a lot about Pyles teaching methods, which were way ahead of there time. There's a cheap one that's really pretty good called " Visions of Adventure" "NC Wyeth and the Brandywine Artists", that book talks about it too but not as thoroughly.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/082MG]

I'm sure your all about it but they're definitely worth mentioning.

One more guy "Nicolai Fecin", Do you have his book? I mention him cause Cornwell was influenced by him a little bit and met him off the boat when he came from Russia. Not to mention he's a kick ass artist too.

[IMG]http://www.fechin.com/media/FechinBook-275.jpg

http://www.fechin.com/media/fechin1.jpg

Whew! That's a lot of work! I'm done for now. :D

[Main Loop]

are you mostly talking about art instruction books? I look at a lot of them, and find a lot of similarity in the good ones, but 4 that ive looked at regularly are:

Alla Prima - Everything I know about Painting - Richard Schmid
Creative Illustration - Andrew Loomis
Painting People In Watercolor - Alex Powers (easy to find, pretty cheap)
Eternal Truths For Every Artist - Harley Brown (getting increasingly popular, i think i was the first person around here to order it, now you can find it easier)

[mtw]

"The Practice and Science of Drawing" by Harold Speed is one of the best books I've read. It opened my eyes to line and mass rhythm and how to use it to create interesting art work. It's what the old master's used in their paintings and drawings.

[Bojee]

Main Loop- Not necessarily all instructional books, could be other things as well as long as it relates back to the work and you find it inspiring.

http://www.richardschmid.com/images/cover-4.jpg

Alla Prima I know but have yet to buy cause it's so expensive, but i hear it's worth it.

Loomis is the man I'm told but I don't own anything by him.

Painting people in watercolor I don't know but I'll look for it.

Eternal Truths for Every Artist I've only seen once and was just able to scan through it. I know it's put out or endorsed by international artist magazine and I like their other publications.The Dan McCaw book at the beginning of this thread is one of them and I think is worth a look.

mtw- Another dover publication, cheaply added to the library. :) I'll look for it.

Thanks to you both for the recomendations.
:D

[Elwell]

Any fan of Wrightson's Frankenstein should check out his inspiration for it, Franklin Booth (http://www.fleskpublications.com/booth-gallery-main.htm).
http://www.fleskpublications.com/Booth-gallery/booth-3.jpg

[Main Loop]

speaking of the International Artist books, one to look for if you like watercolor is Joseph Zbukvic's Mastering Mood and Atmosphere in Watercolor.. not only does it show you what colors to use, but what consistency of paint and wetness of paper to get a desired effect.. something ive never had explained to me.. im getting it soon..

I got a new Joaquin Sorrolla book from Bud Plant yesterday.. very cheap, very worth it.. www.budplant.com youll find too much good stuff there.. beware

[Bojee]

Elwell- Awesome! I totally agree, and Joseph Clement Coll's work don't you think? I love the story of Booth as a child learning to draw and seeing the silver point drawings in magazines and thinking that's how people draw by hand so he learned to draw that way. Excellent Recomendation! As you can tell I'm very big into the old school illustrators.:D

[Bojee]

Originally posted by Main Loop
speaking of the International Artist books, one to look for if you like watercolor is Joseph Zbukvic's Mastering Mood and Atmosphere in Watercolor.. not only does it show you what colors to use, but what consistency of paint and wetness of paper to get a desired effect.. something ive never had explained to me.. im getting it soon..

I got a new Joaquin Sorrolla book from Bud Plant yesterday.. very cheap, very worth it.. www.budplant.com youll find too much good stuff there.. beware

Main Loop- cool, International artist magazine is one of my favorite art publications out there right now and it's great to see their books are holding up as well.
Sorrolla's a stud, good choice, I was soo bummed when I was in madrid and his museum was closed.:(

Bud plant rocks! I've been getting their catalog for a while now and when I get it I just pour over it and drool over all the great books I can't afford. I love all the online bios on all the great illustrators.

Thanks for the great recomendations, if you could bring in visuals too that would be great. Pictures stick better than words sometimes.;)

[wallychairmover]

here's the cover of that book, a little clipped off but you get it:) i think one of the most fundamental books of mine though is "how to draw comics the marvel way" i still have the tattered copy complete with missing pages hanging around from christmas so many years ago

http://www.fiddlegarden.com/book.jpg

[Bojee]

Thanks Wally.:)

[DragonGX]

Is Painting with Fire a book or movie?

IS it about his painting techniques or is it more of a documentary on him?

[Bojee]

DragonGX- It's a movie , documentary about his life. There's supposed to be a dvd version of it coming out with more features, but I wanted mine right away.

[Darkstrider]

I'm waiting for the DVD. Frank is another one who suffered for his art. I guess it's pretty common knowledge, but he had a stroke because he used to paint in a closed room breathing turpentine fumes and he was too much of a tough guy to ventilate. But as another great Frank said, he did it his way. (Actually it was I did it My way, but you get the point).

Wow, a lot of great books listed here since last night!

You know, come to think of it, I suspect all the really good artists were not exactly normal. It's sort of de rigeur... normal people can't be great artists. It takes an uncommon person, and sometimes that means someone with problems mentally or socially. But at least they got to make something great of their differences.... otherwise they would have just been weirdos. I remember my instructor in college talked about a group of abstract expressionists who all decided to go in and get psychological help. He said they got 'cured', but never did any decent art again. I don't know who it was, or how truthful it was, but it sounds cool.

Isn't it frustrating, the way 'normal' (read non-creative) people just don't get it? Being an artist automatically makes you different. I saw a great quote the other day from Will Self (incredible but only half sane contemporary author). I don't remember it perfectly, but it was something along these lines:

How can you relate to normal people when all they want to talk about is beer and sex and the latest reality show and you're busy trying to find a way to tie together all the elements of pop culture since the Kennedy assassination and bring about the end of the world without undermining your main characters motivation?

[Bojee]

Originally posted by Darkstrider
something along these lines:

How can you relate to normal people when all they want to talk about is beer and sex and the latest reality show and you're busy trying to find a way to tie together all the elements of pop culture since the Kennedy assassination and bring about the end of the world without undermining your main characters motivation?

DS- :D LOL, What a great quote!:D Sounds pretty contemporary too! That could almost be a thread itself, "great quotes that have influenced you", cause sometimes it's the whole book and sometimes it's a few lines that stick with you.

Yeah it was weird to see Frank walking around in the Documentary and he was visibly affected by the stroke, at least he's walking around at all, but I'm not sure that he can even paint anymore. Very Sad. :( He definitely made an impact when he was able though.:)
Everybody knows you don't need to paint with turps anymore right?? There's lots of other options, and they're getting better all the time. :D

You know, come to think of it, I suspect all the really good artists were not exactly normal. It's sort of de rigeur... normal people can't be great artists. It takes an uncommon person, and sometimes that means someone with problems mentally or socially. But at least they got to make something great of their differences.... otherwise they would have just been weirdos. I remember my instructor in college talked about a group of abstract expressionists who all decided to go in and get psychological help. He said they got 'cured', but never did any decent art again. I don't know who it was, or how truthful it was, but it sounds cool.

I'm sure there could be a lot of debate on this one. It's cool in a "Romantic Sense ", Definitely makes for a more colorful story or history, but it's also kind of "Fucked Up" too if that's the only way it can happen. I guess I agree with you or at least feel there's tons of examples to prove your point, but then maybe the crazy lives are just more memorable, and stand out more in history. I bet a lot of artists here would go a little crazy if they didn't have their art as an outlet. They all seem to have a manic drive that keeps a fire under their ass so they continually produce.

My dad is a songwriter, and has been for over 30yrs, been married 4 times, and has had a crazy life, never has seemed to get it together except for his songwriting( considered one of the best songwriters in Nashville), he's had his moments but you know what i mean. Now he seems to have gotten his life together, married to a great woman, has good health, he's happy, but he's not producing hardly any work. He's still crazy but he's happy and he doesn't have that drive to produce anymore. So like I said there are plenty of examples to support what your saying but it's still kinda "Fucked Up".:)

I don't know the term "die rigeur" ? What does it mean?

Thanks for the post, I love that quote! :D

[Bojee]

I was just posting on another thread and it made me think of another book/artist you should look into. Julie Taymor, she's a very inspiring lady.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810938790.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Darkstrider]

Oh, don't get me wrong... I'm not advocating that people should screw up their lives to try to become better artists or anything. Personally I'm a bit socially maladjusted, but not too bad. I sort of shun too much company.... but it's not like I'm all screwed up or anything, just a little neurotic. Maybe I just like to think that it puts me in good company. I suspect that if I was one of the cool people, I wouldn't be an artist. My life would be fulfilled without needing it.

Anyway, "de rigeur"... sorry, sometimes I start thinking I'm all intellectual or something (I aint smart enough to really be). It means something like par for the course or "the way things have to be".

[Main Loop]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1929834179.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

this is the Zbukvic book.. he is amazing.. he does almost exactly what i wish to achieve with watercolor..
http://www.greenhousegallery.com/works/11zbukvj1026l.JPG
http://www.greenhousegallery.com/works/11zbukvj1018l.JPG
http://www.greenhousegallery.com/works/11zbukvj1015l.JPG

[Bojee]

DS- Oh I totally got you wrong.:D Don't worry about it dude, everybody's at least a little fucked up. That's part of what gives life texture. I actually thought you were making a good point. Which comes first the craziness or the good art?:D Are they synonymous? connected? Questions i've asked a lot. :) besides I like what you have to say. :D

"de rigeur"Huh? I'll use that someday.:)

Anymore Recomendations???

[Bojee]

Main Loop- Wow , That looks kick ass!!! Thanks:D

[Bojee]

Another inspiration.

http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v88/bojee/books/sbook.jpg

I'm doubling up on this one that I put up on another thread that darkstrider is running about Schiele. He's been a big influence for a while but the great thing about this book is you get to see some of the process.

And if your into him, you gotta be into Kent Williams. One of the first real painters i saw get into comics. Awesome! :D

http://www.kentwilliams.com/print/books/koan.jpg

http://www.kentwilliams.com/print/books/tellmedark.jpg

http://www.kentwilliams.com/print/books/drawings.gif

http://www.kentwilliams.com/print/books/exhibition.jpg

http://www.kentwilliams.com/print/books/blood1_vertigo.jpg

Blood started it all for me, and if you hadn't guessed I'm a big fan. :D

[Darkstrider]

So, you got all those? I have them all except for Blood, and on that I got 3 of the original comics, just missing one, but I need to get the GN. Then there's also Meltdown, which is an absolute classic. KW as Wolverine... how cool is that??!! I want to get ahold of his War Prayer series.... if you look around on his site there's a listing of a religious place you can get it from. And of course there's a whole slew of stints in different comics... some great Crow covers, a few brief segments in '(something); a Chronicle of Destiny Foretold', and countless others, and more recently the Playboy illos. Hey, that's why I buy 'em. honest! :rolleyes:

I first encounterd him in Epic Illustrated in the 80's, along with all the other greats of that time, Muth, Hale, Pratt, Sienkiewicz and McKean. It was a life changing experience, and was what made me decide to get serious about art. Williams is definitely my favorite though.

[Bojee]

Mike- Yeah all of them except the exhibition catalogs, I just tagged them from his site. I actually first saw his work in epic too but didn't know it was him, and when I went back and did research later I found his stuff in my old epics. I've got all the ones you've mentioned except warprayer and the exhibition catalogs and a few of the playboys. He's my favorite too. McKean's Cages is right up there too.

Yeah dude we've got very similar taste, how do you apply that in your work? I've seen a little bit of your stuff at your site but I need to spend some time with it. Do you paint as well?

A new one for you.
Life Lessons: The Art of Jerome Witkin

couldn't find pic, but it's a great book and he's a great painter

http://www.gustavus.edu/oncampus/academics/art/Birmilen.Window.jpg

http://www.gis.net/~scatt/artists_online/images/witkin_self90x110.jpeg
The first 2 are from a series called portrait of a young evangelist i believe, don't quote me, saw them live and was blown away.

http://www.jackrutbergfinearts.com/JRutbergFile/JRutbergJPGs/JWitkinJPGs/JWitkin3D.jpg

http://www.polkmuseumofart.org/content/images/interior/exhibitions/tableauinstall2-big.jpg

Gotta see this work live, amazing.

[Darkstrider]

Hey, you need to add a bracket on the beginning of that IMG tag.

"Yeah dude we've got very similar taste, how do you apply that in your work?"

Well, it just so happens I spent a good portion of last night scanning and uploading some stuff. Hope to hear from you over on that thread. Actually, I feel like the last 2 paintings I've done (the ones I have on my site, just basic Frazetta/Jones emulations) are my first sucessful paintings, aside from some watercolor/gouache stuff (that I also need to post).

But this is getting pretty off topic for this thread! I'm really digging that pic you posted with the pajama people! BTW, do you bear an uncanny resemblance to Henry Rollins, or is that him in your avatar?

[Bojee]

Pajama People:D, your funny , that's Aushewitz( or at least concentration camp victims) , he does really powerful subject matter.

He did a piece of Oppenheimer in a confessional, confessing his sins to a priest who had been burned in the blast.

Crazy stuff but really powerful.
You might know his brother's work too Joel Peter Witkin, he's a photographer and his stuff is really wild too.
http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin/JPW4small.jpeg

This is a tame one. :)

More crazy stuff, I like Jerome's work much better.

What section are you going post your stuff on?

Henry Rollins? Never heard that before. Must be the picture, I'll take it as a compliment though.:D

[Bojee]

http://www.bpib.com/images/studio.jpg

Mentioned this one earlier, one of my early influences.

[Darkstrider]

Wow, I was actually pretty sure that was Rollins. He's the Man... I don't like most of his music all that much, except for a few songs, but his spoken word stuff is incredible! He's like a punk rock standup philosopher. I actually got to see his spoken word tour in St Louis, and it was awesome.

Anyway, here's the thread where I put my stuff: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22809
It's in this forum.

Oh, if you want to pick up the Works catalog, you can order it through the Allen Spiegel Fine Arts website. Here's the web address: http://www.allenspiegelfinearts.com/product.html

You have to order by snail mail.

[Bojee]

Mike - Thanks for the link.
Nope it's not henry, just little old me:D, Like I said it's probably just the picture, a girl the other night said I looked like Gary Busey! Eeek! :eek: Hope she meant young busey.:D How's that for range!

Ok gotta keep this going I know theres more books out there that have inspired you guys.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060554886.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

OK here's a must have as far as I'm concerned, you can't beat the old school illustrators and this'll give you a taste of the best.

Something old, and now something new, I've really been liking this guy alot lately. I think he's got a great sense of design.He's pulling from other influences but I think he's got his own thing going on. It's ashley wood.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0971228272.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0971977593.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1932382216.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

and while we're in the woods I should mention Brian Wood, this is great book with all the preliminaries from "Channel Zero". http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0970936052.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0967684749.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Great stuff , another guy who I think has a great sense of design, Must be the last name.:D

[fredflickstone]

http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/book1.jpg
http://rev-art.com/lemenimages/book2.jpg

Heres a few to mill over....many more to come...


Ron

[D.O.Jones]

I don't think you have enough books Ron


This is a great thread guys, If only I had some money...

[Main Loop]

you have a library to die for.. and thats not even all of it?? :eek:

Mcginnis!

those books on Russian painters and Zorn, Sorrolla etc, howd you get those? it seems, the ones that are in print, are way out of my league.. how much did you pay for em?

I saw the harley brown starving artist book.. nice

[Bojee]

Ron- Awesome that's the way to do it, what a great collection. i'll have pour over this some more before I comment.
Might give me some insights to how you think.lol :D

Thanks for posting.

[Bojee]

Wow the more I look at this the cooler it is, I love looking at other peoples libraries. thanks so much

[Bojee]

The Famous Artist School' s correspondence course, these binders if you can find them have alot of great material.They have courses on Painting, Illustration, and Cartooning. They've just started re-printing some of the material, and I found a site that said they were still doing the correspondence course. The info is great.

http://www.famous-artists-school.com/images/com3.jpg

Do you have these Ron??

here's the link to the site
http://www.famous-artists-school.com/fas_html/guiding.html

[fredflickstone]

Hah, Bojee, looks like you have a couple sets...I have a copy, but not an original. I am hooking up with an original copy this weekend I think...I have 12 other shelves to photograph stilll...heh


ron

[Darkstrider]

Hey come on Ron....
it's no fair just going to the library with a camera! :D

Wow, those are seriously all in your collection? Sweet! When can I come over?

Bojee, my mom had a set of those Famous Artists binders when I was a kid. In fact, that's how I first got started. And yeah, I still see commercials for them every once in a while. I remember drawing the pirate.

[Bojee]

Ron - Yeah I've got the painting binders, 2 of the illustration course that I found at a value village for $7 bucks ( what a find ), and one of the cartooning series. There such a score for my colection! A lot of my books are in storage right now cause I'm living in a smaller place so I guess I started this thread cause I'm a little homesick for them.

I like the shots of your library, it may end this thread relly quick cause you probably have every inspirational art book on the planet, but it's still great to see. It reminds me of Marko's thread about showing everybody's studio. That's a really cool one too.

Could you pick out a couple and talk about why they're useful/inspirational in your opinion??

Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:

Mike- Awesome, aren't they great , I didn't know that "can you draw the Pirate" guys were the same people. Wow they need to update their ad.:D

[Bojee]

I was a fan of this guys work way before the Movie, definitely worth a look.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1593070896.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

:)

[Groover McNab]

A new one for you.
Life Lessons: The Art of Jerome Witkin

OMG! That painting of the window reflection is amazing! Thanks for posting these links Bojee, definitely gonna have to check that out.

[Bojee]

Groover- beg, borrow, or steal to see his stuff live , it'll blow your mind.:D I'm glad you like it, not everybody has heard about him.:)

[Bojee]

I know I'm straying into dangerous territory here but if any of you guys like abstract figurative work this is a great book, The title might be hard to see it's the "Bay Area Figurative Art" 1950- 1965 . To me it's a great book for distilling paintings down to the essentials. Very cool stuff.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0520068424.01._PE32_PIdp-schmooS,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Darkstrider]

Some of the finest art instruction books I've ever seen: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Hale%2C%20Robert%20Beverly/102-5400525-6984950

The author is Robert Beverly Hale, who was an esteemed lecturer on artistic anatomy and drawing at the Art Students League in New York (among other places). Here are some pics:



http://lookinside2-images.amazon.com/Qffs+v35lepMI+VtCF7zpwB2yCM7OXc7TLGFu5zZjmG/CN58/BLbvwuknY+nrAYk

http://lookinside2-images.amazon.com/Qffs+v35lerhOq/inW5JNdStCjqQReAt/az5YEadlVeiEKEgDKfxD9Tq1f+O8u80

Hmmm... can't get the big image to post, so here's the little one:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823014010.01._SCTZZZZZZZ_.jpg

What's so great about these books is the way Hale describes the artistic process. He really breaks down the way an artist thinks, and you can tell he's honed his teaching techniques over many years.

[PhilHolland]

Wow! It's really interesting to see what everyone has in their collection.

Here's mine. The bottom's what I'm looking at today.
http://www.artbyphil.com/forum/mybooks.jpg
I'm doing the "nomad schooling". Meaning I haven't attended a school. But, I pick up figure drawing classes and the like on the side after work or on the weekends.

The most important to me here are:
The Loomis Books.
Brigdeman
Rockwell

I'm gonna sell my Famous Artist Course pretty soon.

Not pictured.
Tons of magazines.
Tons of misc photo ref books.

Cheers,

Phil

[Bojee]

Mike - great selection, If you can find it there's a video series with Hale going through anatomy, he kinda looks like a walking corpse and the pacing is really slow but the information is good.

Phil- yeah this is pretty cool, I'm real happy with how it's turning out, great to see your library. The bottom photo's a little dark for me but I think get the gist of it. Thanks for the contribution.:D

[Darkstrider]

" there's a video series with Hale..."

Yeah, I just learned that last night, from a list on Amazon. I went in search of it, but all I could find are a few libraries that have it for school use. Sounds like you've seen it?

"he kinda looks like a walking corpse"

:D LOL! Yeah, that's how he looks on the book jackets too. I guess attending his lectures was like getting a lesson and drawing from a cadaver at the same time! You could sketch him while he talks. Aw man, that's terrible :bash: (me bashing myself for the disrespect). Sorry Robert, you know you da man! Oh well, having all the books is the next best thing to the seminars... better in a way cause you can refer back to them anytime, and there's no problems with not being able to hear him cause the people in front of you are talking or whatever.

And I just want to strees if I haven't already, that these are my absolute favorite books for learning anatomy beyond the basic level.

[Bojee]

Yeah I think he was seriously on his last legs, that why they filmed him cause he had such a great reputation at the Art Students League. The quality of the film's not that great but the information's solid. :)

[Bojee]

It's just a matter of time before some mentions this guy, for a combination of great design and great paintings Alphonse Mucha is one my favorites.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/2879390060.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/muchasep.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/mucha8.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/mucha9a.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/CLI/NG1635.jpg

His stuff is great in books but to see his stuff live is so much better, just like so many other painters.:D

[Bojee]

One More. I saw this in Ron's collection but I thought I'd do a focus on it.The artist is Sergei Bongart, and is definitely worth a look.

http://www.thescreamonline.com/art/art3-1/bongart/splash.jpg

http://www.nasonart.com/writing/bongartlessons.html

Heres a link to some of his notes about painting.
There's also a video of him that I've seen that's good too.:D

[Darkstrider]

Whatever happened to bongart? You used to see lots of it in the 70's, in the head shops...

Oh, sorry. Different animal altogether. :rolleyes:

Wow, thanks Boj, those notes are excellent!! I saved tham as a PDF file to refer to frequently. I need to look for some of this guys work online later.

[Bojee]

:p No problem.

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810913976.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.pbs.org/art21/series/products/img/season1-2dvd_w.gif

I like art in a lot of different forms, sometimes something very different from you can stimulate ideas about your own stuff. This is a great series from PBS, I recomend the dvds but since we're talking about books I thought I'd bring them in as well. Not all of the artists rocked my world, but the ones that did did so in a big way. these artists are suppose to be on the cutting edge for the 21rst century.Whether you believe it or not it does make for some interesting conversation.

Case in point Do-Ho Suh did a suit of armor made out of dogtags.The armor fans out to fill the room.

http://www.abc.net.au/arts/visual/stories/venice/suh_01.jpg

[Bojee]

Since 'm talking about other influences that aren't just straight painters I thought i'd mention Andy Goldsworthy, I'd seen his work in books for years and like it but was never as impressed until I saw "Rivers and Tides" a movie documenting his process, it's so inspiring. He only uses materials found on site.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810933519.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.filmforum.com/rivers/r-t_eisschlange_300.jpg


http://www.filmforum.com/rivers/r-t_Stickdome_Goldsw_300.jpg


http://www.filmforum.com/rivers/rivers2.jpg

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/65/75/43m.jpg

Good stuff.:D

[Darkstrider]

That last one looks pretty cool! Reminds me of the films of Jan Svankmajer, or in a way Jon J Muth. I don't know why excactly, but it also makes me think about Anselm Kiefer. I guess because this kind of work is about the viewers' experience, about how they react in its presence.

[Bojee]

Mike- yeah I can see that, I think all of the guys you mentioned have kind of a cold vibe to them, Goldsworthy's stuff does feel that way for some pieces but not all. Especially since he's working with nature in all of it's seasons and also how nature interacts with his pieces, some are only momentary some last for a long time. That's why I'm recomending the film cause your able to get that idea better.

Have you seen much of Keifer's work live?? It's very cool , epic in fact. I saw a lot of Keifer's work and Joseph Beuy's work in Europe, it was the first time I had seen it and I really liked it. I mention Beuys cause he was one of Keifer's teachers and just as much of a character himself.

http://www.poster.net/beuys-joseph/beuys-joseph-aktion-fussbodenzeichnung-2000282.jpg

This is a picture of Beuys who had almost a shaman like feel to him.

http://www.psychology.eku.edu/FALKENBE/ArtHistory/kiefer/remnants%20of%20sun%20and%20age%20of%20world.jpg

http://www.moesbooks.net/pics/32523.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/3775711252.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.artsonje.org/kyongju/sonje/Image_Data/collection/c_p_kiefer.gif

I just realizing now how hard it is to convey someone like Keifer's work digitally. Everything seems so flat and his work has so much texture. It's also hard to get a sense of scale.

:(

[Darkstrider]

Yeah, the St Louis Art Museum has a few Kiefers that are some of my favorite pieces there. And you're right, there's just no way to get it across in a picture. You have to actually be there to experience it. There's one gigantic "painting" that's supposed to represent fields after some kind of nuclear holocaust and the surface is built up incredibly think (like six inches or more in places) with what seems to actually be dirt (probably mixed with glue or something) with straw sticking out of it, and rows of jagged torch cut rusty steel or something that stick straight out at you, so when you're near it you get the feeling that you could really hurt yourself.

Another one he's got there is a permanent installation of a gigantic shelf of books that have exploded, and there's broken glass scattered on the floor in front of it (this one is roped off). The books are awesome in themselves... the covers are made from steel I think, and the pages are all different materials, each book is huge! This one always has an admiring crowd around it.

Well, I guess I ought to take this oppoprtunity to bring up Svankmajer. He's a Czech animator, that I'm sure many are already familiar with, the leader of the Czech Surrealist Group and the inspiration behind the Brothers Quay. His films are heavily tactile, frequently featuring scenes like a severed cow's tongue, fresh from the butcher shop, coming out of the mouth of a stuffed frog and scraping across a floor littered with broken crockery and sharp objects. He always plays up the tactile sensations with extra loud sound effects and by lingering on closeups of heavily textured surfaces. He's got an incredible website that could take hours to explore (and is well worth it): http://www.illumin.co.uk/svank/

There is a book about his work, called Dark Alchemy: the films of Jan Svankmajer (which I haven't seen), but it sort of fits this thread because his FILMS have strongly influenced me.

[Bojee]

http://www.bpib.com/images/jcleyend.gif

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/leyend13.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/leyend6.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/leyend7.jpg



Before we get completely off the figurative arts I thought I'd mention some more of the old school Illustrators, I thought I'd start with some of the more well known ones and work my way out from there , there are so many great ones. First choice J.C. Lyendecker just cause I've heard him mentioned so much on the site.
Big influence on Rockwell, known mostly for his Post covers and his Arrow shirt men. very angular.

I also found similarities between Lyendecker's work and a german poster artist of the time named Ludwig Hohlwein.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/VAS/0000-0904-6.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/VAS/0000-0239-6.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/VAS/0000-0644-6.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/VAS/0000-1651-5.jpg

Very similar I think.:)

[Groover McNab]

Damn Bojee, you have one kickass library. I have some of the same books you do, but man, you just have a little bit of everything.

[Bojee]

Groover McNab- heh, groover yeah it's a little bit of a blessing and a curse but I'm interested in a lot of different things.:D

[arghmisfit]

i just bought this book by jim phillips who designed rock posters and santa cruz skateboard graphics from the 80'shttp://www.jimphillips.com/BOOK/colorbook.jpg

[Bojee]

arghmisfit- Cool I'll look for it, if you like Graphic stuff you might like this book. It's about art chantry, he was a designer for Sub-Pop records for years as wel as lots of other stuff. He's influenced lots of designers. I had him as a teacher once. You might like www.gigposters.com.


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0811823652.01._SCTZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.gigposters.com/posters/TN_23990.JPG

http://www.gigposters.com/posters/TN_23997.JPG

http://www.gigposters.com/posters/TN_8246.JPG

http://www.aigany.org/images/home/art2.gif

http://www.rotodesign.com/art/bowl.gif

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/16/01/0811823652-resized200.jpg :D

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0517183358.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

N.C. Wyeth - I should have talked about him a long time ago, major influence of mine, probably the most famous of howard pyle's students. Incredible stuff.:D

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0517067137.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/W/Wyeth_N_C/biopic.jpg

http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/W/Wyeth_N_C/large/Wyeth_N_C_Tam_On_The_Craig_Face.jpg

http://www.ncwyeth.com/images/studio.jpg

http://www.tfaoi.com/mn/mia/mia55.jpg

http://www.nbmaa.org/FULLSIZE/Wyeth,NC_full.jpg

http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/ams/faculty/Faculty/goetzmann/Lectures/Images/CD%2032/32-086.JPG

Sorry for the dump but his stuff is so great that a few images just won't do it. Also it's very hard to choose. :D ;)http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/WW2/US/Homefront/Financial/1647-14a.jpg

[Bojee]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/railway/age/images/pyle.jpg

Howard Pyle Wyeth's teacher- The ripple of his teaching was felt illustration and art for many years afterward.

http://www.brandywinemuseum.org/images/pyle.gif

http://alexia.lis.uiuc.edu/puboff/bccb/pyle.jpg

http://www.ferncanyonpress.com/pirateimages/pyle.jpg

http://www.illusionsgallery.com/mermaid-pyle-L.jpg

http://www.bradleyschmehl.biz/graphics/pyle_bunker_hill.jpg

If your an Illustrator, I think you should know your history, Howard Pyle is a big part of that history.:D

[Bojee]

http://pulprack.com.sc.sabren.com/arch/DeanCornwell.book.jpg

one of the most famous of the brandywine school was Dean Cornwell who studied with Harvey Dunn one of Pyle's students.

http://www.shearman.com/enterprise/historic_full.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/bcfhlr/grafik/bilder/cornwell/cornwell11.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/bcfhlr/grafik/bilder/cornwell/cornwell10.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/bcfhlr/grafik/bilder/cornwell/cornwell07.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/bcfhlr/grafik/bilder/cornwell/cornwell02.jpg

http://www.rrmuseumpa.org/visitors/seasonal/troopstrains/43cornwell.jpg

http://www.rrmuseumpa.org/visitors/seasonal/troopstrains/44cornwell.jpg

http://www.americanillustration.org/html/dc/003.jpg

http://www.americanillustration.org/html/dc/portrait2.jpg

http://www.nrm.org/exhibits/new-rochelle/DeanCornwell.jpg

http://www.laep.org/artsonline/siqueiros/images/dccalhis_2.jpg

http://www.laep.org/artsonline/siqueiros/images/dcmodel.jpg

Towards the end of his life cornwell devoted his life to becoming a muralist wanting to leave something more lasting than illustration. :)

[sixBlade]

This is a great thread!

[Bojee]

sixBlade- Cool dude, I'm glad you like it, do you have anything to add from your library??:)

[sixBlade]

I guess so :)

Not so sure how well mine will be received though!

Starting with some not quite along the same lines, I've done some graphic design so from that sorta stuff I particularly like these books:

eBoy (pixel art)
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/eboy.gif

Buro Destruct
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/3899550021.jpg

Then these two in a series.. sorta character design but rather more conventional.. illustration through to 3d.. includes mario and the like.
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/pictoplasma.jpg
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/pictoplasma2.jpg

Then of course next obvious choice to post is Don Seegmillers book:
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/chardesignpaint.jpg

And a couple of figure drawing/anatomy books:
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/ryderfiguredrawing.jpg
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/richeranatomy.jpg
^^ last one is great.. amazing anatomy drawings for all positions of major limbs =D

And this one:
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sixBlade/dynamicdrapery.jpg
I know a lot of people don't like Hogarth, but I quite like his method. His style I hate. Nonetheless his slightly over-the-top drapery book is very good!

[Bojee]

sixblade- Thanks for the contribution. :D All is welcome , that's the point really, I was curious what other good books are out there inspiring other people since I love mine so much. thanks again, I'll look for these.:D

[Madman!]

this thread is great.

here is a book I think is pretty good by Deane G keller. I can't link the load the pics on the site to copy them, but you can view them and you can also order the book http://www.lymeacademy.edu/art-college-keller-book.htm he really covers a lot of stuff.

John William Waterhouse book
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/071484232X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Massimiliano sketchbook and the rest of the Maser books
http://store3.yimg.com/I/overseascomics_1788_15415939

Jeffrey Jones sketchbook
http://www.bookpalace.com/acatalog/JeffreyJonesSketchbook.jpg

John Hench
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0786854065.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

got a lot of other books but ones probably people are aware of Star Wars artbooks, Metal Gear artbooks, Final Fantasy IX, LotR books, etc..

[Bojee]

Madman!- I know Waterhouse, glad you brought him up, awesome painter. Jeff Jones for sure, and I've seen the John Hench book too, the rest I don't know. Can you talk a little bit about why your into them?? Thanks for the post.:D

Anybody else that posts can you also talk about what's inpiring about these books, why you like them and why we should check them out?

Thanks alot for all the great posts.:thumbsup:

[Bojee]

http://www.greebo.com/naiad-john-william-waterhouse.jpg

http://www.sensualism.com/waterhouse-siren1900.jpg

http://www.lib.usf.edu/tampa/mr/bigpics/waterhouse.jpg

http://www.astelfix.de/waterhouse.jpg

http://www.dreamstone.com.au/artists/newromantics/waterhouse%20orpheliaLrg.jpg

http://people.ucsc.edu/~lstevens/waterhouse%20painting.JPG

http://yacht.zamok.net/DV/Potter/Posters/Snape/Risunki/mk/Mermaids/waterhouse.jpg

http://persephone.cps.unizar.es/General/Gente/SPD/Pre-Raphaelites/Big/JWLadyOfShalott.jpg

http://www.rastko.org.yu/drama/zstefanovic/orfej/mit/img/art/jwaterhouse-nymphs2.jpg

A few more waterhouses cause I like him so much.:D

[Madman!]

okay

Waterhouse- Well at first I just was into that painter lady of Shallot(the first image you posted) then I saw the book I had to get it. I think it's the way his picture there is a story not just a bunch of people standing there. Plus his style that his women are in I find appealing.

John Hench- I like looking at concepts there fun interesting places that he draws. It's like being at disneyland walking around but you're just looking at the drawings. I don't know if it's childesh but I like disneyland when I went it's interesting to see the buildings desings and how it goes from futuristic to like fantasy and so on. I usally don't go on the rides I just walked around looking at buildings and places. So basicly just because of the interesting architecture designs.

Jeffery Jones- Well I don't have any of the other books, but the sketchbook it's interesting because the images looks so quick but he's telling a lot in just a few strokes.

Frezzato- almost the same as the Jeffery Jones, but just the opposite with really detailed drawings and seeing the process.

Deane G Keller- at first I just like the drawings. then when I got the book I really like the way he teaches. He really breaks down shading techniques in the book and measuring. there is also anatomy it's all just quick and to the point and the drawings are just great to look at.

I'll probably post some more tomorrow.

[Madman!]

i guess it's already tomorrow now. Here are some more.

Pino's book http://www.pinoart.com/gifts.htm
http://www.classicpublicationsinc.com/pino/full_size/thinkingofyou.jpg
I don't have it but i would like to have it the paintings look amazing.


Charles Bargue and Jean-Léon Gérôme's drawing course. Like drawing from casts great book for study. http://www.budplant.com/prod.itml/icOid/13491
http://images.budplant.com/products/full/13491.jpg

Walt Disney Imagineering for the same reason as the John Hench book.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0786883723.01.LZZZZZZZ

Doug Chiang's Robota I like it cause well it's doug with an interesting story(I think) nothing better than that.
http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/i/atb/guild/images/sep2003/robota.jpg

maybe some more later...

[Bojee]

Madman!- Awesome, Thanks soo much. That's exactly what I was looking for, I really appreciate it.:D Can't wait to see what you post next.:)

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810925966.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

There's been talk about this book on other posts so I thought I'd bring it up. Everyone knows his work, but I think the man is just as interesting as the work, and his life story is very cool.He wasn't as consevative as you would have thought he would've been.

http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/96feb/96febgifs/rockwell.gif

http://www.griffinmuseum.org/photos/rockwell.jpg

http://www.weidleverlag.de/rockwell.jpg

http://www.thecityreview.com/s02sampq.gif

http://www.nrm.org/norman/norman_white2_230.jpg

http://www.nrm.org/norman/NR_Art_Critic_250.jpg

http://www.nrm.org/norman/n_drawing.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/at0071_3s.jpg

http://www.houseofwaterdancer.com/images/artists/rockwell-norman.JPG

http://www.oakridger.com/images/111999/rockwellLR.jpg

[Madman!]

okay here are some more.

Okay this isn't a book but it's still good American Artist. It has a lot of good articles and some great artists. I specially like the ones on drawing.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005N7OE.01.PT01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

a book about Lawrence Alma-Tadema I don't have this book but I've looked at it so much at B&N that I pretty much do. It's like the same style book that the Waterhouse one is by Phaidon.
http://www.moesbooks.net/pics/32429.jpg

i just got this one the other day Hellboy Art of the Movie. If you like the other Hellboy art book you'll like this one.
http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/13/13273.jpg

Frank Cho I really enjoy his linework. I'm more into his illustrations than the comic strip there still good though.
http://images.budplant.com/products/full/5010.jpg

Batman Animated I like Bruce Timm art and the animated style. There's some great stuff in here i just wish there were more sketches and pencil drawings.
http://www.downthetubes.net/images/books/batman_animated.jpg

[Bojee]

Madman!- Awesome thanks, we need to get some others to start posting, I want to keep this thing going, I know we're just scratching the surface.:D
I've seen all of these except the Frank Cho book, great choices.:D

[Spacey]

I don't have much of a library, but one book I've found myself flipping through now and again is Dinotopia: The World Beneath (my friend has the first book, I have the second). It's in an amazing world where dinosaurs and humans co-exist. James Gurney really emerses himself in the world and illustartes many of the concepts in the book. Here are a few pics (taken from here (http://www.dinotopia.com/imagegallery.html)):

http://www.dinotopia.com/dinosaurparade.jpg


http://www.dinotopia.com/Rumble%20and%20Mist.jpg


http://www.dinotopia.com/twilight.jpg

http://www.dinotopia.com/Ring%20Riders.jpg

[Bojee]

Spacey- Thanks,that's a great book. I hope you post others when you get inspired.:D

[Chingwa]

Well first of all THANK YOU Madman for putting up Waterhouse. He is my most favorite artist of all time. Noone else comes close. Second, I'll post a few books that had a tremendous effect on me at an early early age. The pictures in these books transported me to a different place, and made me want to be an artist.

St. George and the Dragon(Illustrated by Trina Schart Hyman):
http://www.popgirl.net/public/george.jpg

Rapunzel (Illustrated by Trina Schart Hyman):
http://www.popgirl.net/public/rapunzel.jpg

And there was a third that I can't find a picture to, that was even more mind blowing illustration wise than these, called "The Water of Life" also illustrated by Trina Schart Hyman.

I know they are "kiddie" books but theyhave some of the most beautiful artwork I've ever seen. period.

[Bojee]

Chingwa- I love children's books, thanks for posting, I'll look for them.:D

[emily g]

Trina Schart Hyman is one of my favorite artists. It seems not that many people know about her though. She's amazing--she draws those figures straight from her head.

[Madman!]

okay a couple more.

Joe Mad- I could post tons he is my favorite of all time of artists. I'm sure a lot will disagree but he is my favorite. I run joemadfan.com (currently making changes) here are two good ones for people to get I like them all so it would be hard for me to choose.

bc hard cover
http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/new_graphic_novel156.jpg

and the Cliffhanger sketchbook I like seeing sketches plus it has Campbell and Ramos too. There is another version but it has the same stuff just different covers.
link (big scan from my site) http://joemadfan.com/battlechasers/sketchbook2.jpg


J Scott Campbell Another one of my favorites a lot to choose from but this is a good one.
sketchbook
http://www.marsimport.com/images/DANGTS1A.JPG

Jim Lee same reasons as above. This is the Wizard Millennium Edition it has 256 pages of Jim Lee goodness.
http://store4.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1792_7488762


Alex Ross One is the same style book as the Jim lee one and another that is much bigger.
http://store4.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1790_3243402

http://www.bookpalace.com/acatalog/MythologyDCComics.jpg

brian Froud i'm not really into dark crystal but I like his art and the sketches in the book.
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/jun1f2/pict/cover/worldofdarkcrystal.jpg


and this book I don't have it but I have seen the year 1950's and it looks really good. Anyone have the others from the 1940's and 1960's they're e sealed at the books store. They have like 900 pages in each book.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3822811580.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Fredflickstone you gonna show the other 12 shelves soon? I really would like to more of what you got. No rush or anything I can wait patiently just want to make sure you don't forget.

p.s. and since I'm pretty much running out of books that I own and that others haven't seen here is my other sources of Inspiration.

MY Links Page (http://www.nathensprings.net/links2.html)

[Bojee]

Madman- Thanks.

A new one and there are many inspirations in this book.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0785817077.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I love this genre.This book is good and it's cheap.:D

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1556523890.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://www.vintagelibrary.com/pulp/pulpart/art/cult1.jpg http://www.bookpalace.com/acatalog/PulpCulture2nd.jpg

[Bojee]

http://www.abbeville.com/images-catalog/full-size/0789207486.jpg

Sargent is talked about a lot on this site but no one has highlighted books about him yet.

http://www.math.umn.edu/~riordan/art/images/sargent001.jpg

http://pup.princeton.edu/images/k6376.gif

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargnt02.jpg

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargnt03.jpg

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargent.jpg

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargnt00.jpg

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargnt12.jpg

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargnt08.jpg

http://www.jimloy.com/arts/sargnt14.jpg

http://www.yale.edu/yup/images/0300087446.jpg

http://www.flamencomn.org/images/uploads/painting.jpg

http://www.flintarts.org/images/sargent.jpg

http://www.seattleartmuseum.org/Sargent/images/Img_links.JPG

:D

[Bojee]

http://images.budplant.com/products/full/13073.jpg

Ron's more of an authority on Sorolla than I am but if you don't know about him you should check him out, truely a Painter's painter. Anders Zorn as well.

http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/s/Sorolla_y_Bastida_Joaquin/large/Sorolla_Joaquin_Ninos_A_La_Orilla_Del_Mar.jpg http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/s/Sorolla_y_Bastida_Joaquin/large/biopic.jpg http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/s/Sorolla_y_Bastida_Joaquin/large/Sorolla_Joaquin_El_Palmeral.jpg http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/s/Sorolla_y_Bastida_Joaquin/large/Sorolla_Joaquin_La_Nina_Curiosa.jpg http://www.michis-seiten.de/10000261.jpg http://www.hennesseyingalls.com/images/covers/joaquinsorolla.jpg :D

[Bojee]

Some of Zorn's pieces, Sorolla and Zorn were contemporaries.There are books on Zorn's work but they're very hard to find.

http://www.artunframed.com/images/compressed/compressed5/zorn.jpg http://mrdesign.krasline.ru/digiart/piks/zorn.jpg http://www.inter-art.com/images/bilder/op/3752.jpg http://www.alsing.com/zorn_sv/pics/k026.jpg http://www.mescalina.it/arte/riflessioni/foto/impressiosti/impressionisti_02.jpg

[infested pixel]

Hey, Madman i like JoeMad too and Arnold Tsang who colored most of JoeMad work, keep the site up and goodwork. Well I don't have a lot of book and couldn't have a library but for inspiration I have some in my hard drive like Andrew Loomis.

:D

[Jeff Jaws]

one of my few books:
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/jeff_jaws/helnwein.jpg
Gottfried Helnwein.
one of my favourite pieces from him:
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/jeff_jaws/h2.jpg
go check his hp at http://www.helnwein.com/ for more ..

Jj.

[Bojee]

Jj- Cool , I haven't seen his work for a long time, not since I was into the Scorpians. Fun choice. Thanks.:D

[Groover McNab]

Aha, awesome. I knew if I checked on this thread regularly I'd be introduced to artists I haven't heard of (Zorn and Sorolla), which I feel kinda dumb about since this work of theirs you posted is amazing. Also, I got reminded to get some Sargent books. Keep posting guys!

I'll try to post some stuff soon too, if I ever find anything that Bojee doesn't already own :D. Man I can't say enough about how your library rocks, nice and eclectic, the way I like it.

[Bojee]

Groover- Thanks.:D Like I've said before I have pretty varied tastes but there is probably a similar thread running through out. I don't own all of the books I've posted, I own probably 85 to 90% percent of them and the rest are just books/artists that I think people should be aware of or relate to the last book someone posted or that i posted. My library is large, getting bigger all the time but I thought I should clarify that.I've spent time with all the books I've posted but I use the public library too. Great resource if your not using it, at least it is up in seattle.:D So if you know of a good book but don't own it ,it's still cool to post it. I'm just trying to get the word out.:D

[Groover McNab]

Hey I'm not complaining this thread is GREAT! I'll definitely be contributing soon, actually I would right now but I'm at work and i'm not even supposed to be here, hehe.

[Bojee]

Didn't think you were.:D

Look forward to seeing what you post.

http://www.allworth.com/Media/180.jpg

A new one for you. Anything by Steven Heller is great. :D

This is a great book that talks about where illustration is today from many different points of view. An easy read and really interesting especially if your interested in being a illustrator.:D

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1581153058.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1581153481.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1581152469.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1581152655.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810925885.01._PE_PI_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823005453.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/193241102X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

A few more books by Steven Heller , one of the greatest historians on graphic design. :D

[Groover McNab]

Ok here's a few sorta obvious ones

Spectrum (of course)

http://www.flipvertical.com/images/book_spectrum.jpg

Comm arts illustration annual is cool. Mostly editorial stuff.
http://www.flipvertical.com/images/book_commarts.jpg

And I'm a big fan of Dave McKean

http://www.flipvertical.com/images/book_dustcovers.jpg

And if anybody hasn't read Sandman yet, please run to your nearest bookstore and buy them immediately! Always a fave read.

[Bojee]

Groover- Great choices! Especially Dave Mckean! Here are some of the covers. Sandman rocks! Have you ever read Cages?

http://www.mclink.it/personal/MD2162/wallpaper/lbw-sandman_1.jpg

http://www.comixexperience.com/CEScan%20Disc/TalentPictures/TalentPixSmall/DaveMcKeanb.jpg http://www.followtheblackrabbit.com/Images/Guest_Artists/McKean_travels.jpg http://www.fucine.com/archivio/fm24/images/bon-03.jpg http://www-pub.naz.edu:9000/~chkirby/collagelinks/researchproject2_files/image002.jpg http://www-pub.naz.edu:9000/~chkirby/collagelinks/researchproject2_files/image003.jpg

http://www.dccomics.com/features/vertigox/images/int_mckean.jpg

http://www.ninthart.com/images/cagescv.jpg

He's an amazing artist, sooo Versatile.:DDave Mckean (http://www.dreamline.nu/)

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1886212201.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Groover- You mentioned CA Illlustration annual, that's a great one, the only other one that I think gives it some competition is American Illustration, This is the cover of the most recent edition. It's worth a look even if you don't buy it. :D

[Groover McNab]

Ah I haven't read Cages yet. Might have to pick it up post Austin workshop when I have money again :(

Here's a couple more

In case it wasn't obvious, I love Sandman! And i'll pretty much read anything Neil Gaiman writes.
http://www.flipvertical.com/images/book_amano.jpg

Another Ashley Wood book
http://www.flipvertical.com/images/book_unofanta.jpg

[Madman!]

Wow objee bojee thanks for the Zorn/Sorolla books pics. Do you know how much or how many pages are in it or them?

[Bojee]

Groover- Yeah Neil Gaiman's a stud, I've read most of what he's written.

Madman- No Problem, It kinda depends on the book, the Zorn books are much harder to find than the Sorolla books, I've seen some of both , bud plant has this sorolla book that looks good for Sixteen dollars give or take. http://images.budplant.com/products/13073.jpg

There's also a Sorolla/Zorn book that shows their work back to back since they knew each other and were influenced by each others work.

Good luck on your search.:D

[Pitvipr]

Wow, I cant beleive anyone hasnt posted this book yet:

http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v137/Pitvipr/drawing_bookcover_brain.jpg


Drawing on the Right side of the brain by Betty Edwards...

wonderful book changed my perspective / approach to drawing in general, recommended for novice artists, and even a veteran artists out there could learn something from this book. At the moment of this posting I know there is a newer edition that the copy that I have. Great book though! Highly recommended!!!! :D

[Bojee]

Pitvipr- Yeah, kind of a classic, I've read parts but i haven't read the whole thing. I'll look at it again.
Thanks for posting.

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0698113578.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://img.infoplease.com/images/msendakbook.jpg

Early influence; ;)
A couple of childrens books that had a big influence on my imagination.:D

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823003175.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823010279.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823010287.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823010295.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.zianet.com/comic-booksuperstore/collected/eisner-sequential.jpg

http://www.zianet.com/comic-booksuperstore/collected/eisner-storytelling.jpg

Great books on comics, especially Will Eisner's books.:D

[krispee]

hi
i`m a huge fan of Loomis
i have Head and Hands, Fun with a Pencil, Ceative Illustration, Figures in Action
http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/createill.jpg

also mangled together a couple of other books like figure drawing for all its worth and another i can`t remember
so want Eye of the Painter by loomis but it costs an arm and a leg.....

also have Jeno Barcsay for anatomy
Ron Tiner`s figure drawing
Burne Hogarth`s dynamic figure drawing

krispee

[Bojee]

krispee- Awesome, can you talk about why you like them so much, what makes them good books etc.?

Thanks for posting.- B
:D

[krispee]

hi bojee
well, i like loomis because he - imho - is the best sketcher of human heads i`ve seen.....and his way of illustrating that, and communicating that, on page, so that we, the artists, can understand it is second to none......
hogarth has some brilliant dynamic poses, although his figures are aimed at the comic book artist its still good for ideas and the story about him teaching his pupils by drawing full size figures using charcaol on stick from memory is inspirational to me......
barcsay is old fashioned but has very technical illustrations which i like.....
tiner`s good for ideas.....nice tuts on drawing dynamic poses by drawing stick-like figures

my fav book is probably head and hands....awesome book i use all the time.....

krispee

[Bojee]

krispee- Great, thanks.:D

[Gurb]

hi everybody!
Started lurking again some weeks ago and finally decided to post.

I first wanted to say I find this a great learning and inspiration resource. All those life painting and portrait threads are making me want to improve my rendering skills. Hope to be posting some of my artwork soon.

To the point now. Lucian Freud hasn´t been named yet, if I´m right.

make a google search and take a look at the artwork of one of the best contemporary (sp?) figurative painters.

His work really blows me away.
Dont know why he isnt named more often here, really impressive artist.

[krispee]

gurb: i agree that freud is impressive but not to everyone`s taste.....a recent british tv programme devoted to him went into great detail about his life and work and was interesting.......painted a lot of his family.....and is not that prolific, not now anyway.......
i`m not a huge fan of his work i must say, though very good.......art is so subjective though isn`t it.....

krispee

[Bojee]

Gurb- I love Freud's work, just haven't got around to him yet, Did you want to bring in a particular image of a book that you like or have about him?? What do you like about his work? If you talk about Freud you might want to talk about Bacon too. Thanks for posting.:D

[Gurb]

krispee- You´r right, I remember my grandmother found the paintings "disgusting". Some people might find Lucian Freud´s art offensive or crude.

He is one of my favorite painters anyway, I really find his work incredible.



Bojee- I got to see his work "live" last year in Barcelona. I simply cant´t find words to explain how incredible it was.

I like the ability he has to render all those little color and hue variations in the skin. His brush work is also realy inspiring. Although his pictures seem to be painted a la prima, they are painted in many long sesions.

Bacon and Freud where friends, and their art share some things. They both treat paint as if it where flesh, literally thrown into the canvas.

I have dumped a couple of scans here, check them out. Wont be there very long, since all this stuff is copyrighted.


If you find any of the images is too big, simply tell and i´ll scale them down. I wanted everybody to see the strokes :)


http://onfinite.three10.com/libraries/19468/abd.jpg

http://onfinite.three10.com/libraries/19469/abd.jpg

[Bojee]

Gurb- Thanks, that's awesome, I've only seen a few originals, the texture is amazing, he's one of my favorites. If your into him you might like Ann Gale's work
http://www.realart.com/hfg/images/contemp-img/gale-img/GAL-006-OM-lrg.jpg

Thanks for posting. :D

[krispee]

gurb: yeah i do like his flesh tones, great sense of the deeper, hidden, colours in the skin...and of course his texture, very impasto....

bojee: never heard of her....might look her up....reminds me of C W Mundy.....found him in International Artist....
link and a pic:

http://www.gallerydirectart.com/ms-157.html

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/cwmundy.jpg

krispee

[krispee]

i`d have to also encourage everyone to look this guy up; james bama......
the first time i saw his work(in the book in the link below) i could hardly believe it.....amazing detail.....and so much history......
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553093053/qid=1087837573/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/202-7445984-5607828

i know you know this guy, and someone has already mentioned him i`m sure, but singer sargeant is an artist i enjoy...not his watercolours, not a fan of those, but his oils i love....no pic but a website with loads of his works in chronological order....

http://www.jssgallery.org/

btw, does anyone know of any good sargeant art books that feature his oil paintings....?

krispee

[krispee]

my last book....a brilliant one cover to cover full of just portraits......must be hundreds in there from all over the world......can look at it for hours.....

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/portraits.jpg

krispee

[Bojee]

Krispee- Thanks for keeping this going , I'll post again soon.:D

[Bojee]

http://www.moesbooks.net/pics/14886.jpg

http://www.moesbooks.net/pics/14887.jpg

A couple of really good books on the california impressionists, beautiful work, by some artists that maybe you've never heard of before.:) I only own the one on the north, but I've seen both and they're very good.

[krispee]

bojee: hey, those books look really good, i did look them up on alibris.com and they are quite expensive.....plein air painting is something i`ve never done but am definitely planning to have a go this summer(if we get some sun lol)......

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/rolfharris.jpg

remembered i had this.....don`t know if you`ve heard of this guy but he`s quite famous here in the UK for his paint programmes on tv....very much in the vein of impressionism......not a 'how to' book more a 'this is how i do it' book....a process book....

Krispee- Thanks for keeping this going

hey, well, no probs, not having much luck with my last thread so might as well keep this one going lol

krispee

[Bojee]

Krispee- Sorry I haven't got back sooner , been out of town, don't know this guy, he may be exclusive to the UK. You should definitely try plein aire painting if you haven't, it kicks my ass but I love it. Great way to learn about color. Since your from the UK do you know about Jenny Saville's work?? http://www.photojournal.co.uk/web%20pics/INDY%20PICS/Thumbs/jenny%20saville.jpg
http://www.garfnet.org.uk/new_mill/autumn98/jpegs/saville.jpg
http://2ndthought.net/bai/savillecolour.jpg http://2ndthought.net/bai/SAVILLE2colour.jpg
She's great.

[krispee]

bojee: no, haven`t heard of her, pretty hard hitting paintings(wonder if she`s trying to say something there) but the colour and texture of her work is lovely....especially her skin colours...i`ll have to see if i can something about her online....
rolf harris is actually an australian....he has dual nation. i think, does a lot of tv work, presenter etc.....but his work is great as well....
http://www.rolfharris.com/

bit cheesy but has some links to his work....

krispee

[TheYellowDart]

No book list is complete without mentioning Harley Brown's 2 books.

Confessions of a Starving Artist --and-- Eternal Truths for Every Artist.

[Bojee]

No book list is complete without mentioning Harley Brown's 2 books.

Confessions of a Starving Artist --and-- Eternal Truths for Every Artist.

Thought these were mentioned when we were talking about international artist magazine but even if they were good things are worth repeating. Can you bring in pictures of them?? Thanks for the contribution.
:thumbsup:

[Bojee]

Here's one I just picked up, super cheap, very simple but good info on composition and light.http://i13.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/08/89/b3_1.JPG :D Excuse the bad photo, snagged it from somewhere else.

[Nadim]

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/3822872059.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/3822872059/ref=nosim/successtapcomand/103-9629385-2827836?dev-t=D2Y5TUCCVJ7DGE

[Bojee]

Nadim- Thank you, i think most people know Dali's work, but why do you like him and why do you like this particular book. What inspires you about him?? Thanks for the post and thanks for sharing. :)

[krispee]

dali, now theres an unusual painter.....definitely had his own view on things didn`t he......

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0486229270.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

a friend(a portrait painter) mentioned this guy to me and i managed to fiind an image for ya......
john f carlson - wondered if you guys know anything about him.....was maybe thinking of getting the book myself as i`m dabbling in the odd oil landscape.....pretty cheap

krispee

[GCastro]

thought I'd throw one in to the mix:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0395530075/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-8431750-8752162#reader-link

George

[Bojee]

thought I'd throw one in to the mix:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0395530075/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-8431750-8752162#reader-link

George
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/63/fa/0395530075-resized200.jpg

George- thanks for posting, I've been slacking on my posts lately and haven't said this recently but if you guys post can you bring in a visual of the book your talking about and can you tell us why you like it and why you think it'd be worth picking up or looking at. It just makes the forum a lot more helpful. Thanks

Krispee- I don't know that one, how do you like it so far?? I love the old books, there's some great information in there if you willing to dig for it.

A new one, Robert McGinnis. Old school illustrator who could draw the femme fatale like nobodies business.
http://homepage1.nifty.com/widewestweb/BkMcGinnisTapestry.jpg

http://www.pondpress.com/mcginnis/carterbrown.jpg

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/Categories/BookCovers/Detective/detc1.jpeg

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/Categories/BookCovers/Detective/detc3.jpeg

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/Categories/BookCovers/Detective/detc5.jpeg

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/Categories/BookCovers/Detective/detc11.jpeg

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/Categories/BookCovers/Detective/detc16.jpeg

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/Categories/MoviePosters/movp10.jpeg

Gotta love the old school illustrators! :clapping2

[krispee]

Gotta love the old school illustrators!

haha, whoa Bojee, now thats a link lol.....lurvely ladies there, i checked out his website @

http://www.mcginnispaintings.com/

and there are even more works there.....amazing detail and composition....not just the girls but landscapes and all sorts.....
good call dude

i haven`t actually purchased that book so far, trying to get it in the UK....


krispee

[Bojee]

Krispee- Yeah he does it all, and does it all well , but for me it's the way that he does women that makes him stand out, glad you like him.-B

[acuna_read]

I used to get hold of porn-mags and draw from them. Best to go for something fairly sedate like Playboy etc...

And people will also suggest body building mags for the anatomy to.

And if you want to draw someone riding a mountain-bike, then buy a bike mag. That is the best way to see the tension caused by them, its overemphasised (obviously) but that normally helps.

I got rid of my mags in a clear out not long ago, and it was glue............... :beam:

[Bojee]

I got rid of my mags in a clear out not long ago, and it was glue............... :beam:

??? What does that mean ?

Why not just draw from life? I think it's a lot more useful.

[Victor B]

Well, here I am , first I want to thank everyone who participated in this thread, especially Bojee for starting it and keeping it alive.I already had some books mentioned like Harvey's "Eternal truths for every artist" mentioned by Main Loop, but i also got some books I never would have gotten if not mentioned in this thread like "Proven Strategies For Creating Great Art " by Dan McCaw, which has become one of my favorites and Joseph Zbukvic's Mastering Mood and Atmosphere in Watercolor & Fantasy workshop soo thanks again to everyone. I usually don't post alot something which i hope is changing starting with this post I hope to become a more active member. Anyway getting back to the subject at hand here it goes... books that inspire me

well first off already mentioned worth mentioning again ALL the loomis books are just plain fantastic i just have them in pdf but hope to get some physical copies soon enough.
after that I'll start with some books that should be essential for anyone looking to get into sequetial art (thanks to bojee for already posting some great books on comics)
1)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1893905144.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Panel Discussions: Design in Sequential Art Storytelling
i can't recommend this book enough for budding comic artist it talks about the art of sequentials panels pacing storytelling how to direct the eye everything from comic pros, and their different methods of doing it
heres the discription from amazon.com where u can buy it:
The struggle to tell a comics story visually requires more than a cool-looking image; it takes years of experience and a thorough understanding of the art form's visual vocabulary. Assembled in Panel Discussions is the combined knowledge of more than a dozen of the industry's top storytellers, covering all aspects of the design of comics, from pacing, story flow, and word balloon placement, to using color to convey emotion, spotting blacks, and how gutters between panels affect the story! Learn from the best, as Will Eisner, Scott Hampton, Mike Wieringo, Walter Simonson, Mike Mignola, Mark Schultz, David Mazzucchelli, Dick Giordano, Brian Stelfreeze, Mike Carlin, Chris Moeller, Mark Chiarello, and others share hard-learned lessons about the design of comics, complete with hundreds of illustrated examples. When should you tilt or overlap a panel? How can sound effects enhance the story, and when do they distract from it? What are the best ways to divide up the page to convey motion, time, action, or quiet?
link to amazon- link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893905144/qid=1090029638/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-5679051-8285402?v=glance&s=books)

2)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1840231866.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
next in the same vein this time in a more candid interview way this book is similar mostly interviews with many different comic book artist it also looks more at each creators biography how they got started in comics and where they are now another ESSENTIAL book cheap too. book disc from amazon-
Revealing, in-depth interviews with comics legends such as Brian Bolland, Steve Dillon, Dave Gibbons, Jim Lee, Frank Miller and Alex Ross amongst others. The secrets of translating comics script to graphic storytelling are revealed for the first time.
Technique, style, layouts, approach, pencilling, inking... no facet of the artist's craft is left unexplored, and this is just the beginning. Salisbury gets to grips with the lively creative genius behind the pencil and ink, presenting an unparalleled insight into the widescreen mind of the comic book artist. Revealing, instructional, shocking and humorous, Artists on Comics Art has something for comics fans, budding artists and hardened professionals.
link to buy it --link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1840231866/qid=1090030025/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5679051-8285402?v=glance&s=books)

3-
Perspective! for Comic Book Artists: How to Achieve a Professional Look in Your Artwork
link-sorry no pic (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823005674.01._PE30_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-)

great book on perspective thats easy to read it in comic book form ,very well done highly recommend it!

ok i got lots more but I think I'll break it up in to 3 or 4 posts next up will be concept art books I have and recommend, then just trad art books i have
whew thats quite alot see u guys in a few

[Bojee]

vctr- Great man, I haven't seen any of them and they look great. Thanks for posting.

[Victor B]

sure thing bojee! before I get some sleep though there is one last thing i forgot to include in the books essential for aspiring comic artist which is

4- BONE (by jeff smith)
http://i.walmart.com/i/p/09/78/18/88/96/0978188896314_500X500.jpg
while not actually a how to book but an independent comic book this is if nothing a lesson in sequential art, what can be done with the medium a fantastic storyteller Jeff Smith deserves all the credit he can get. Cartoony , funny and serious all at once it's not only a great thing to study but a fantastic read , seriously off all the comics I own I can get anyone to read bone from 7 yr olds to 23 yr olds its just that good. Read it enjoy it , then figure out what makes it good. Oh and just your luck instead of shelling out 15-20 $ for each trade paper back(9 vol. series ) you guys get to save a bojangle of money by purchasing this at wallmart.com and get the whole series the complete 1300-page epic for a lowly $24.45! so do yourself a favor go buy it and congratualte yourself on saving a butload of money...
link to buy- wallmart link (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2628090&cat=21170&type=3&dept=3920&path=0%3A3920%3A18786%3A18788%3A21170)
also available at amazon for a slightly higher price...
whew well I'll start on the next set of books tommorow

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6301293258.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000067IY3.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Cool , do you know these two? 2 of the best vids on comic books and their art.

[Victor B]

nope I haven't really got any art videos, thanks for the heads up though ... you wouldn't have any links would you... ( god i'm lazy)... ( and poor)

[Bojee]

Amazon.com has both of them, and they're both pretty cheap. I first saw them cause my local library had them so you might check at yours.

[Victor B]

Thanks for the info bojee! I think I'll check the library first since I'm soooo broke right now, which also reminds me of a point I wanted to share with everyone which is if possible buy used books almost all my books I bought cheap used at Amazon or the library book sales. I'll get more in deph about this later for now just wanted to put it out there before I Forgot. Well I don't have many concept art books but I do cherish the ones I have.. so without further ado...

1- The art of the Matrix
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1557044058.01._PE30_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-
not talking about if the movie was good or not just as a "art of" book it is really good it has a bunch of storyboards by Steve Skroce not like most storyboards more finsihed looking like comicbook panels, and amazing concepts by Geoff Darrow really if you can find it for a decent price just get it the fold out pages of Geoff's desings are simply mind blowing! I'll post some pics but it doesn't do it justice not by half these are shrunk lose detail and look cluttered. Anyway its a really good book I find it highly inspirational
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/img/darrow/2.jpg

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_img/art_board_tfconcept.gif
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/img/darrow/sb-d-1.jpg
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/art_rev/rv_img/art_board_sbb22.jpg
their is a bunch more examples at the whatisthematrix.com site
side note: their were supposed to be follow ups for movie's 2 & 3 but haven't heard anything new on those for about a year now .. keep hoping thou

oh and link to amazon- link! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1557044058/qid=1090105243/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-6202094-4042437?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

[Victor B]

cont' from last post books on "concept art"
next are the "Art of Episode 1 & 2" Star Wars books! A great deal I got them both together used from Amazon for nothing! Looking forward to Episode 3 where we will hopefully see a lot of designs from Feng Zhu!
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0345431081.01.__PIt.arrow,TopLeft,-1,-17_SCTHUMBZZZ_.gif

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/034543126X.01.__PIst.arrow,TopLeft,-1,-17_SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg

really do I have to explain , again despite what you think about the movies great books on conceptart, just fantastic designs and I think essential for the prices you can find them at if you look.
links to amazon
Episode 1 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345431081/qid=1090106480/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/002-6202094-4042437?v=glance&s=books)

Episode 2 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/034543126X/qid=1090106480/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/002-6202094-4042437?v=glance&s=books)

Oh and if you're really broke you can usually find these in your local library I first used to check them out there till I had enough money to add them to my own library

next
Digital Character Design and Painting
by Don Seegmiller
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1584502320.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

a great book for those just trying to get a handle on the digital aspects of charcter design using Painter to its fullest not to mention it does come with a cd full of movies of him painting in painter, i really find those helpfull and amazing to watch! again u can usually find it for a good price online. I guess that in that same vein i guess their is a new version using photoshop
Digital Character Design and Painting: The Photoshop Cs Edition (GRAPHICS SERIES) while i don't own it I'm sure it's just as good and a great read
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1584503408.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

link for 1st book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1584502320/qid=1090106794/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-6202094-4042437?v=glance&s=books)

link for new photoshop edition (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1584502320/qid=1090106794/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-6202094-4042437?v=glance&s=books)

ok well next I'll post some Traditional art books I have... hope you guys found some of this stuff interesting!

[Bojee]

vctr- I dig the matrix book, seen it before, good call.
a new one for you- another foster = )

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1887591257.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/foster/foster_princevaliant1.jpg

http://www.budplant.com/images/artists/FOSTER_BIO_1.JPG

Some of his influences Edwin Austin Abbey and James Montgomery Flagg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/abbey4.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/abbeycv.jpg

http://www.bpib.com/illustra2/flagg1.gif

http://www.bpib.com/illustra2/flagg4.gif

http://www.bpib.com/illustra2/flagg5.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/f/f3/Uncle_Sam_%28pointing_finger%29.jpg

http://www.bookpalace.com/acatalog/JamesMontomeryFlagg.jpg

[Madman!]

Glad to see this thread is still going. Is that the new don seegmiller book I'm definitely going to get that. I haven't bought any new books in awhile just some gnomon dvds. I have a book that should be posted but it won't be out for awhile it was just announced like a week ago I can't wait to get this...

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/publishing/img/20040719_bg.jpg

that's not the final cover though and it won't be out for awhile. On my hyperspace they posted concepts for the Kashyyyk plant and they're amazing and there is like 40 pieces just for that planet. hopefully they will make this book double the size as the others.

[Bojee]

Madman- Great, can't wait to see that one.

[jetpack42]

I just sat down and read nearly this entire book today

http://www.oldprintshop.com/images/large/14816.jpg

It was awesome. I didn't know much about Rockwell, other then...his art was awesome. It was very interesting to read about the man behind the work. How he was frequently around other artists who could help him. He was a pro from the age of 17. Some of his artist friends, influences, teachers (there was a small bit on my favorite, Bridgman). I learned some about the way older artists treated the craft, and how they went about it, how they trained for it. It was really informative about Rockwell, illustration, and art itself. I'm super inspired, and alot smarter...feeling like I have been largely self-taught, this book showed me a little more of the path of the way of masters.

One of my inspirations from this book is to really study alot more art history. I need to learn about the guys behind the magic. Going to take this back to the library and get another.


also, that McGuinnis guy looks like the shiznit! I gotta check out his stuff.

[Bojee]

jetpack42- Rockwell's cool, have you ever seen any of his stuff in person?? super cool. If you like his stuff you might like J.C. Lyendecker , I mentioned him earlier in the thread.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1593071884.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

New find at the library, I think I like it better than the art of hellboy book, great simplification of shapes.

[jetpack42]

I haven't seen his stuff in person. Next time I head out east (got some friends there, used to live there) I'll be planning a visit to the stockbridge museum.

Leyendecker rocks too.

[Bojee]

I've kinda been on a poster kick for a while, I love the use of space and design.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1887893423.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/081184529X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/3822889288.01._PE_PI_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.kinokunst.de/MPBooks/MPB_U/StenbergBrothers.jpg

http://www.sfu.ca/~dashton/museums/stenberg_brothers.jpg

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/1997/sternbergbrothers/jpgs/stenberg1_280.jpg

These last few are of the Stenberg Brothers, definitely worth a look. :teeth:

[Soulrape]

Here's my inspiration...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/soulrape/Books03a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/soulrape/Books03c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/soulrape/Books03d.jpg

[Leopoldo]

Great thread guys!

Unfortunately I don't have the time to scan the covers etc. so I'm just gonna list 'em.

The Illusion of Life
The Invisible Art
Anything by Jean "Moebius" Giruad, especially the Blueberry series.
Vertigo Visions
Shot by shot
Animators survival kit
The "screencraft" series - costume design, production design etc.
"Impressionism" from Taschen
Paperdreams
The five Cs of cinematography
Nightmare before christmas, making of book


I'll add more later. I got so fired up I have to run out and buy some more lovelly books!!!

Thanks guys,
L

[Bojee]

Leopoldo- Thanks for posting,Great choices!, it's really easy to bring in images of the books your talking about, I just link them from other sites. It seems a shame to mention people like "Moebius" or Tim Burton without having visuals to go along with it.

Could you also say why you like some of these books? What makes them good in your opinion? I know it's more work but it's greatly appreciated and makes the information more valuable.

Regardeless thanks again for mentioning such great choices, I'm really glad you decided to contribute.

I just checked out your site, great work by the way.

"Moebius"

http://www.supercable.es/~juanpi/images/moebius.jpg

http://www.supercable.es/~juanpi/images/arzach.gif

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/li.an/illustr/moeb/faton2.jpg

http://www.supercable.es/~juanpi/images/fondoom2.gif

http://www.supercable.es/~juanpi/images/VelaAlannaFight_8x6.jpg

http://www.supercable.es/~juanpi/images/StillPicPoster_8x6.jpg

Soulrape- Geiger is really cool, I love how much influence he had on people. Why do you like him??

[krispee]

Bojee:
have finally purchased that john carlson book and it`s looking great.....really explains his techniques and goes through a lot of prep work that`s helping me......learning stuff already........
no colours which is a pity but the information he gives is amazing.....
not an easy read by any means but something i`ll keep referring to

krispee

[Bojee]

Krispee- Cool man, if some quotes jump out at you while reading post some of them here. Take care-B

[krispee]

Bojee:
ok, this did when i first read it.......
'Let the student realise at once that there is no method or style through which he can become a fine painter. Have not a care about "putting the paint on." Put it on any way you wish, even using the thumb, if you like, so long as you will try to do the thing I shall ask of you. You will be surprised at your own style in the course of a few months. It will be unlike anything you ever dreamed of.'

from 'Carlson`s Guide to Landscape Painting' by John F Carlson.....

krispee

[Bojee]

Yeah , I like that one too. :teeth:

[Leopoldo]

Yeah, good point. Sry no picture refs either. Time issues.
Look 'em up. sry dudes and dudettes :zzz:


The Illusion of Life - Excellent book on animation
Animators survival kit - An even better book on animation. Together with "Illusion of life" the basis of any animation library.

The Invisible Art - A nice book on the history of matte paintings. There are a few practical tips as well, but way too few for me.

Anything by Jean "Moebius" Giruad, especially the Blueberry series. - Jean Giruad's "Lt. Blueberry" is a masterful library of great character and anatomical abstracts. A well full of ideas on how to abstract the body for clear illustration leaning towards realism.

Vertigo Visions - A collect of Vertigo covers, which is a good style guide.

Shot by shot - My bible for many years when I started out doing tones of
storyboards. The basics of cinematography.

The five Cs of cinematography - A nice comanion to Shot by shot above. These two together cover enough camera language tips, tricks and rules to give you a good direction of developing your own camera style. Also good for comic book artist and anyone else working with sequencital illustration/photo.

The "screencraft" series - costume design, production design etc.
A series of interviews from different profeffesional groups in cinema. Directors, screenwriters, composers, costume designer, production designers etc etc.
A few good practical tips, tones of experience and war stories and lots of interesting illos and photos.

"Impressionism" from Taschen - A fat collection of Impressionistic art if you're into that. I just love those vivid colors and clear abstractions.

Paperdreams - A historical tome on the gag people or story people at Disney feature animation. A nice historical forey into storyboarding and the folks that started it all.

Nightmare before christmas, making of book - A thin book with many cool photos but very few pratical tips. I got more out of the pictures than the words. Also fun for your kids if they enjoyed the film...

Cheers,
Leopoldo

All these books can most likely be found at amazon.

[Bojee]

Leopoldo- Thanks, great descriptions and great reasons why, if I wasn't interested before I'm definitely interested now. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. :rendered: :rendered:

[Bojee]

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/776_1469_1.jpg http://www.theanimatorssurvivalkit.com/TheAnimatorsSurvivalkit.jpg http://www.nnbh.com/base/38/images/0500510938.jpg http://www.helsinki.fi/~lakoma/comics/pics/giraud/blueberryl01.jpg http://www.helsinki.fi/~lakoma/comics/pics/giraud/blueberry.gif http://mckean.beeldbeeld.be/images.php/MK_DI578.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0941188108.01._PE_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/187950541X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/2880465052.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://www.nnbh.com/base/90/images/2880466490.jpg http://www.mouseshoppe.com/custom/productzoom/PaperDreams.jpg

Oh well almost got them all , had trouble finding the last one. :dur:http://www.movieforum.com/movies/posters/horror/images/nightmarebefore.jpg
I think it's this one.I know it's the poster but i think the book has the same title.???

[Bojee]

Hey have you seen these??
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JDV4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000TAYSO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[squal]

HI

Anyone, as an idea,

I m interested, by concept design, environment, product,character, everything,

I ve a question if you could answer it, I m trying to find a book, or site which could help me to improve (in all way sure), but I searching like a mad how coloring, I mean rendering, with marker, pencil, colored, pastel, to make wood, glass, metal, skin, skin of reptile, hair

in fact I m looking at somes work, and I can feel the metal, glass, just amazing, it just seems so real.

, if you can answer thanks a lot,
bye

[Bojee]

squal- Check out this site, might give you a good place to start.
Site For Squal (http://www.designstudiopress.com/index.php)

http://www.designstudiopress.com/books/images/QD_big.jpg

http://www.designstudiopress.com/books/images/conceptdesign_big.jpg

[squal]

THANKS,

yes i went there really amazing, somes are from Ryan Church,Scott Robertson and an other amazing guys, I go see the site of somes guys like zhu ,
I found somes book on amazon, like color drawing, and other things, but I dt know, you know I have never find a site tutorial for rough design,

THANKS.

[Bojee]

Sorry i couldn't help more, good luck.

[squal]

NO NO THANKS FOR YOUR HELP;

it s very nice to answer thanks a lot.

[Bojee]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823045323.01.TZZZZZZZ.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0760316414.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823002772.01._PE_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Some of these might help.

[squal]

THANKS.

I ve seen them wondering if they were good, i saw on other one about architecture, how colored landscape, it could very interesting, with marker, pencil, pastel...

god i ve seen somes site , it s just amazing how people can do that, as doug chiang.

i knew him, i ve heard, but never seen his site
http://www.dchiang.com/dchiang_flash.html

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP VERY NICE.
i should by a scanner, I could learn a lot with your critics
THANKS.

[Bojee]

squal- no problem, if you get a scanner I'm sure there would be a lot of people that could help you better than I. Maybe start a daily sketchbook?

[squal]

YES THANKS.

i STARTED sometimes i just draw without think the result is really bad, but, when i m too tired to be concentrate, i just let my hand make shape, i tried to design somes product, but I ve a problem of perspective , or maybe is because isn t colored, i drawed somes landscape, i did good improvement in perspective, somes anatomy, i get a job at night i tried to draw when i had time, but after sleep , i was thinking it s very shitty, concept art is amazing, I bought card when i was child it was so wonderful, heroic fantasy .

in fact most of time i m wondering how they can do that, in doug chiang studio , in tips, he paints a landscape, i was sure it was digital, AMAZING.

I m really happy to found this forum, I saw amazing sketch book,

anyway, it s very nice,
sorry for my english and can you imagine than my english is better than my drawings, ? LOL

bye.

[Bojee]

Squal- I understand you just fine, I'll be curious to see your work when you get a chance to post it, and I'm sure you'll make fast progress once you do. Take care- :teeth:

[squal]

HI,

yes I ll post a day my amazing scketch book (i m kidding), i realized that in fact most of people, but me too, draw a wrong way, and do bad drawing because we ve in mind a wrong pic of an object, if u want draw a duck you ll draw in relation of an pic you have since you are little,
so maybe the best way is to copy book, not exactly the same, but put your mental pic in relation to the reality,

you would draw by your own line in a good way.

ok, I know isn t a great discover everyone know that, but I need my drawing are bad because all my mental pic are wrong, i m sure somes people will draw the same object since they have 5 years.

bye.
once again somes works are just AMAZING.
take care everyone
bye.bojee.

[hito]

a few from my meager library...

Hogarth - Dynamic Light and Shade (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0823015815/ref=lpr_g_1/102-4482235-2696968?v=glance&s=books)

Stephen E. Fabian -
Not sure how I'd describe it... similar to frazetta's figures, but in black/white, with a touch of art nouveau. Mesmorizing to look at for me.

Edward Gorey - Amphigorey
I like the limericks combined with the drawings.

Shirow - Intron Depot
Older stuff; I like the mechanical and weapon designs. The newer stuff iwth digital textures I don't like as much.

two most recent additions
GOAD - Phil Hale

Progressions - Jon Foster

and Barron Storey - http://www.barronstorey.com/index.htm; saw him first in End Less Nights where he did the art in 15 portraits of Despair and was hooked.

[two-na]

Rudy De Reyna - how to draw what you see
in my opinion this book is packed with illustrations that you can disect, all subjects are covered in a basic sense, the rest is left up to your mind, I think this is how things are best: allow you to disect artwork elsewhere with a basic knowledge of how you can achieve something with a few mediums
Stephen Longstreet- the drawings of Pontormo
if you can look really closely at his works you'll be inspired too.

[Bojee]

Hito- Thanks for posting, some good stuff there, a few of them were mention earlier but good stuff is always worth mentioning again, I appreciate it. Barron Storey is the shit , I got to meet him once, super nice man. :)

two-na- Thanks for posting these, I don't know either one. I'll look for them.
:)

For future posts- I mentioned this before, if you guys don't mind, could you try to bring in visuals of the books you mention and descriptions of why you like the book , what you got out of it etc. I think the visuals really help to get someone excited about a book being described, also they'll know what to look for.Also it'll save me some work and I'm on here enough as it is. Thanks I really appreciate it. :bashful:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823023753.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Bojee]

A few more images to add to the great descriptions above.:rendered:
Pontormo
http://digilander.libero.it/giovannidallorto/biografie/pontormo/pontormo1.jpg http://digilander.libero.it/giovannidallorto/biografie/pontormo/pontormotrenino.JPG

Hogarth
http://bookshelf.diamondcomics.com/products/images/STAR12883.JPG

Edward Gorey
http://www.goblinville.com/bootique/images/gorey/gorey-gashley.gif

Shirow
http://www.bazardubizarre.com/artbook/i/shirow/introndepot.couv.jpg

Two-na and Hito thanks again for posting. :rendered:

[Bojee]

A new one. I love good design, this is a new one I just picked up from the library, super cool stuff...as artistic as this stuff gets.
http://www.unclecharlieart.com/sWAGbook.jpg

A few of the artist in the book.
Art Chantry
http://www.cocaseattle.org/archives/gallery/artists/kkpostr.jpg
Justin Hampton
http://www.davidclement.com/dc-graphics/1PJHarvey1.gif http://home.vicnet.net.au/~wrangle/Pictures/nickcaveexhibit.jpg
Shawn Wolfe
http://www.portlandmercury.com/2003-11-06/bigcover-1.jpg
Shepard Fairey
http://www.elizabethdanielsphotography.com/image/portraits/fairey_p.jpg
http://www.elizabethdanielsphotography.com/image/portraits/fairey.jpg http://www.guttervision.com/fairey1.jpg :rolleyes:

[knowmind]

i didnt see anyone mention Mass by john harris-he is amazing...howsabout Degas pastels?or Hokusai's prints?i have a hasui shin hanga print i look at all the time,too.oh yeah and Yoshitoshi's 36 ghosts.Monet,too cant get enough....

[Bojee]

knowmind- Yeah , there's a lot that we've missed, kinda hard to say all the great books in 4 pages.;)

yet another group of books that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I guess that's kind of the point.;)

http://www.giftednaturalist.com/scstore/graphics/sku2-2026.jpg

http://www.thearma.org/Youth/kngts10.JPG

http://www.thearma.org/Youth/kngts5.JPG

Great reference books
http://www.learningstreams.com/mmLEARNINGSTREAMS/Images/PPB_DK_ANCIENT_CHINA_100.GIF

http://www.learningstreams.com/mmlearningstreams/Images/PPB_DK_BATTLE_100.GIF

[Bojee]

I think Muybridge is an essential to any artist's library to learn about movement.

http://www.lovelandacademy.com/books/MuyBridge-Motion.jpg

http://www.artsmia.org/playground/muybridge/11master.gif

http://www.artsmia.org/playground/muybridge/11.gif

http://imv.au.dk/~pold/uiaest/Muybridge.jpg

Anyone see on the Olympic coverage this year they were showing motion this way, it was very cool. :}

[krispee]

hi bojee
long time since i`ve been here.......have got some quotes for ya.....
so much information in John Carlsons book it`s a crime to just quote it really.....but....
things like... 'symmetry is static; variety is dynamic', and 'proportion is the soul of architecture and art...', spring to mind....whetted your appetite?

'The artist must look to nature for his inspiration, but must rearange the elemental truths into an orderly sequence......'

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/carlson_poi.jpg

the above image shows differing points of interest in a painting; ground, sky, trees, building, unplanned.
the unplanned painting has no point of interest and is to be avoided according to carlson........'...for all(the elements) are clamoring for attention with equal voice.'


i also have the animators survival kit, although i`m no animator i found the poses of real interest and got a better all round understanding of what it takes to make animations work....
and muybridge is just awesome, used some of his poses for a design project i did a few weeks ago.....
talking of the olympics i have taped hours and hours of footage of the olympics so i can study them so if i find anything of interest in the coming months i`ll post em for ya....

krispee

[Bojee]

Those are great Krispee, thanks. :} :}

[Mushy]

Wow, I'm suprised this book isn't on the list yet (maybe it is and I missed it)

Perspective for artist by Rex Vicat Cole

link to book (http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=7-0486224872-3)

As far as perspective goes this book has it all, I've seen a few other books on perspective, but none I've seen even compare to this. This book will teach you all there is to know about perspective (It's 280 pages!!! , when I first ordered it I was thinking how the hell could someone make a 280+ page book on perspective, sure enough Rex Vicat Cole showed me)

[Bojee]

Mushy- Yeah man , we're missing a lot of books on a lot of different subjects so if you have any other suggestions that would be great.Thanks for posting.

[krispee]

not much on alla prima yet here, so, an american painter who needs no introduction to you guys i`m sure......i did look and couldn`t find anything on him here.....

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/allaprimaschmid.jpg

krispee

[Bojee]

Krispee- Thanks Man,..... really? This one hasn't been mentioned yet? Huh, well that's kinda silly. :wink: Thanks dude for keeping me honest, any other suggestions are greatly appreciated. :}

[krispee]

well dude, don`t know about silly, lol....i may have missed a post, i was skooting through them.....you were probably thinking about him even if you didn`t post him ;).....to be honest i don`t know that much about schmid really, maybe you could tell me about him.....
and, i`m sure there was some stuff about alla prima, yeah, sure somewhere in here....
but, anyway, i`m babbling.....

krispee

[one2hit]

whoa....fred flickstone has a massive row of awesome japanese art books :love:

I gotta figure out what book that was that Ben brought to sketch night last friday...that book was so insane.

I want more books...arghle...I have only one anatomy book by (obscure artist), and a few mostly unhelpful art books. Wish I could get my hands on some more.

[Bojee]

Use the library, I love it and use it all the time, King County has a ton of great art books and you just order them online and then pick them up at the nearest branch. :) :)

[jett]

wow after reading this thread i totally want to go live at barnes and nobles/borders

thanks for all this info

all i have right now [on my hard drive]
is the loomis tutorials and various vilppu stuff

[Bojee]

Jett- No problem dude, thanks for stopping by, if you find any that you think should be added I'd greatly appreciate it if you would. :)

[one2hit]

Use the library, I love it and use it all the time, King County has a ton of great art books and you just order them online and then pick them up at the nearest branch. :) :)

oh man that would be so totally sweet!....if I had money ....:dead: Thanks for the advice though... The libraries are pretty good around here...I discovered that "anatomy of ridiculously good looking people for the artist" last year. Good book, but not a huge variety in body types. :yawn: must...aquire.....sleeping..

[AmishCommy]

vctr - WOW!!! Panel Discussions. totaly didn't expect to see that on here (although i really should not have cause it is a really good book)


Panel Discussions was writen by my good friend and former professor Durwin Tallon (i had him at SCAD) He plans to write 5 books total. Panel Discussions came out last year. This year he put out a book (i can't remember the title) about how comics and sequential art influence modern media such as movies and television. The book he's working on for next year is about technique. A friend of mine and myself were enlisted in Durwin's schemes for the 3rd book at the ComicCon in san diego. we were trying to get Dave McKean to do an interview with Durwin about his technique. If Durwin gets Dave to contribute to the 3rd book then its gonna rock more than Panel Discussions

[Egets]

This is a good way to introduce myself, show what I read...well its not all that I read but what has been part of my artist development

My very first artbook I have ever bought, I actually bought it as used one E.H. GOMBRICH'S THE STORY OF ART Browsing through the entire evolution of art of mankind starting from prehistoric and primitive peoples, then moves to Egypt, Greece, Romans, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, rome and Byzantium, China, Western Art, the influence of Church in paintings, realism, by the time of around 1520 oilpainting had reaches its peak in perfection via Michelangelo, Raphael, Titian and Leonardo (?) rich luscious lusty paintings by Rubens Van Dyck, power and glory in art, age of reasoning and the revolution, not only contains 407 illus but also 501 pages of info

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/storyofart.jpg

SCULPTURE FROM ANTIQUITY TO THE PRESENT DAY, basicly just have 1150 pages of sculptures that are ever worth mentioning

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/sculpture.jpg

MAKING ART PAY, INDISPENCABLE REFERENCE FOR EVERY ARTIST, I agree one has to start from somewhere and cant just hide in some cave doing paintings (which IM by the way still doing cough cough)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/makingartpay.jpg

AFRICAN CRAFTS, an overview of the art in Africa

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/africancrafts.jpg

FRA GULDADERKUNST TIL SKAGENSMALERE, who knows what that means I bought the book for the art pictures inside, maybe I scan few interiors later if somebody likes...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/1800century.jpg

THE LORD OF THE RINGS:WEAPONS AND WARFARE, just like for armory reference :perv: <--- I was thinking this one is like geek or nerd but it says perv

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/lordoftherings.jpg

PROBLEM SOLVING FOR OIL PAINTERS by Gregg Kreutz, I totally recommend this book to anybody, it open a new of looking at oils sometimes like he says one who is not use to oilpainting use the brush as if he or she is "drawing" but you have to think the oilpainting as globs of paint areas there are so many things he is talking about and then creating the illusion of something been there BY NOT PAINTING IT he is so marvellous, he is kind of teaching how to paint so that it creates an illusion to ones eye and it really works and btw it looks more cooler than a painting that shows it all !!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/greggkreutz.jpg

MANGA! MANGA! THE WORLD OF JAPANESE COMICS excellent book, gives you nice verbal introduction to the world of japanese comics and understanding why they are drawn the way they are, nicely simply written too

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/mangamanga.jpg

HOW TO PAINT AND DRAW teaches basic things about drawing with pencils and chargoals, painting with watercolours, oil and acrylics and again with crayons

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/maalausjapiirustus.jpg

ILLUMINA: THE ART OF J.P. TARGETE, I would call him my gate to the present world, before him art was only done by the old masters who are already dead :confident

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/illumina.jpg

[Egets]

CHARACTER ANIMATION IN DEPTH every honourable artist tries everything there is to try drawing vice, so I had to take look at the 3 animation as well, after I read this book I knew its not for me, but still it was very useful to read because its an overview of all things you have to take into consideration while you are prepairing a demo reel for a company, so I really learned a lot of things that are still useful for instance storyboarding, lipsync and thinking in 3 D in general so I dont consider it as waste of time

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/characteranimation.jpg

LEONARDO DA VINCI a walk through of Leonardo Da Vinci's life as an artist (draftsman, sculpture, musician...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/leonardodavinci.jpg

THE NEW QUIDE TO ILLUSTRATION exploring the illustration business in general and showcasing current successful illustrators (1990)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/newguidetoillustration.jpg


DRAWING DYNAMIC HANDS totally so thorough way of teaching how to draw hands and understand whats underneath the skin, the bones fleshes how they form the shadows and portruing areas of lights and blablas

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/dynamichands.jpg

PRE-RAPAHELITE WOMEN adorable book with nice romantic female illustrations, from this book I learned about the most mindbuggling artist (2 me) William Holman Hunt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/preraphaelitewomen.jpg

THE BEST OF NORMAN ROCKWELL 100 beeeeaaaauuutiful paintings by Norman Rockwell selected by his son Tom Rockwell

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/normanrockwell.jpg


IN THE GARDEN OF UNEARTHLY DELIGHTS:THE PAINTINGS OF JOSH KIRBY

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/unearthlydelights.jpg

A COSMIC CORNUCOPIA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/cosmiccornucopia.jpg

THE JOSH KIRBY DISCWORLD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/HelenofTroya/discworld.jpg

[Bojee]

Egets- Thanks so much for the contribution- welcome to the boards. :)

[Madman!]

I got a bunch of books recently and I saw Egets da vinci book which is one that I also got here are some of the others.

http://images.alibris.com/isbn/0/4/8/6/2/0486225720.gif

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810937808.01._PE30_PI_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.metmuseum.org/store/images/Z.bk.C0881.L.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/3822828858.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.deslegte.nl/scans/jpg-groot/0752547224g.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810938332.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.inkspirations.com/images/artcallig.gif

I got all these except for the mini Da Vinci book at the half price books store for like 5-10$ a piece. I have only read the da vinci ones including the one Egets posted and the Michealngelo one.

[Egets]

thanks Bojee ! Hi Madman! :bashful: and I have also once bought calligraphic set before :D but there was no lengthy book involved just a quideline how to do it and sample fonts :)

[Bojee]

Heh, just when I think this thread has died you guys revitalize it. Thanks, hopefully I'll come up with some more contributions myself. :)

[hito]

http://store.us.games-workshop.com/blacklibrary/artbooks/horus_heresy.gif

http://store.us.games-workshop.com/blacklibrary/artbooks/horus_heresy_2b.gif

http://store.us.games-workshop.com/blacklibrary/artbooks/horus_heresy_3b.gif

Just picked up this up, the art quality is very good, though not outstanding with the exception of a couple artists featured in the book. However the designs of the armors are incredibly elaborate.

GW's artwork has progressed a long way since 1997.

[Bojee]

Man, I'm not sure I'd have the patience to do something like that, thanks for posting it Hito. :)

[Patrick]

What an awesome thread! Of course I get in on stuff late as always, in this instance it's good. There's a ton of stuff I didn't know about, and a bunch of stuff posted that I own also.

This was invaluable to me at an early age in developing figure drawing skills:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0399507914.01._PE20_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0399507914/qid=/sr=/ref=cm_lm_asin/002-7189895-1516814?v=glance)

Here's a few more I have too:
Figure Drawing List (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/2Q10S07VFEP6R/ref%3Dcm%5Faya%5Fav.lm%5Fmore/002-7189895-1516814)

Now I'm off to do some shopping for more books! :bashful:

[Sapphire]

This book isn't out yet, but since they're not being sold in stores, I thought I'd give people heads up on a couple of these.

The first one is the Art of Oddworld book for their 10 year anniversary, which you can pre-order online, and see thumbnails of all the pages...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/Sapphire8400/ArtOfOW.jpg

http://www.ballisticpublishing.com/oddworldinhabitants/

The second is by a person I watch on Deviantart, and I think I ought to put a link in for them, because they're really amazing at making monsters... reminds me of Tim Burton's style a lot.

http://my.lulu.com/content/73384

[Sok N. Wett]

Whoa Abe is that old......damn

[Sapphire]

Abe's Oddysee was published in 1997, but I guess the company actually started in 94. :)

[Tetsuo]

i would just like you all to know this one special point - YU SUK!

I have now lost $60 + dollars to Borders Books!!! /cry

seriously though....great stuff :o

-TeT-

[Bojee]

Don't know if I've mentioned this one before but I was mentioning it in my sketchbook so I thought I'd bring it up here to. Great stuff.
Bill Sienkiewicz
http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/10574601150.1.gif http://wawong7.home.att.net/collection/SienkiewiczBill_elektra_Chic03_sm.jpg http://www.geocities.com/elektrafan/SienkiewiczElektra.jpg http://www.heroesonline.com/Photos/hc03/images/sienkiewicz-sketches.jpg http://www.heroesonline.com/Photos/hc03/images/sienk-on-floor-2.jpg http://www.heroesonline.com/Photos/hc03/images/sienkiewicz-hulk.jpg http://www.heroesonline.com/Photos/hc03/images/good-sienk-with-crowd.jpg http://www.planet-x.com.au/ddloveandwar.jpg

[Madman!]

Here is a book I just got off of amazon still waiting for it in the mail. Sounds like it might be a good one it got all 5 star ratings.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/doverpublications_1813_203863449

Bojee or anyone know of some books on animals that deal with the anatomy of animals, most seem to deal with structure and not bones and muscles. I have the Jack Hamm one, but it doesn't seem to go that indepth about anatomy. Any suggestions?

[MikeHayes]

One of my friends just bought this book an I have to say that it is by far the most comprehensive book on animal anatomy

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0195142144.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Elwell]

Bojee or anyone know of some books on animals that deal with the anatomy of animals, most seem to deal with structure and not bones and muscles. I have the Jack Hamm one, but it doesn't seem to go that indepth about anatomy. Any suggestions?
Speak of the devil! I just metioned this (www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0486200825) to someone on another thread. It has a lot in common with Peck's human anatomy book in terms of style.

http://lookinside2-images.amazon.com/Qffs+v35leqFXP6QMx54MdVAbFAJSxQKxUt960FHlhrx1nAwVX 74eIJYelonTXAg

[Madman!]

wow thanks guys! that was hella fast.

[Bojee]

Here is a book I just got off of amazon still waiting for it in the mail. Sounds like it might be a good one it got all 5 star ratings.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/doverpublications_1813_203863449

Bojee or anyone know of some books on animals that deal with the anatomy of animals, most seem to deal with structure and not bones and muscles. I have the Jack Hamm one, but it doesn't seem to go that indepth about anatomy. Any suggestions?

Looks like you got it covered but I just saw the one you got on order and it looks pretty good supposed to be a standard for animators. :)

[Bojee]

Just saw this book today, very excited about this movie.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0811844331.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Madman!]

I got that book last week bojee it's great. It's more of graphic design and some stuff that looks like paper cutouts and pasted together. If you got the other art of pixar books then you'll probably like that one.

like I mentioned in my thread about the Iain McGaig site being started that this book by Terryl Whitlatch called Katurran Odyssey finally came out. I got it and it's got some amazing art.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743225007.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

and after those other animal books were mentioned I think this book is a great source for animal anatomy too. I got that book I mentioned and you're right bojee it's more geared to animators, it's a pretty good book. Hopefully I can get those other books on animal anatomy mentioned I really want to start learning as much as I can on anatmoy animal and human.

also Bojee I see you're from Seattle? I live in Tukwilla.

[Bojee]

also Bojee I see you're from Seattle? I live in Tukwilla.

You should come to the seattle sketchgroup sometime. :)

[Sok N. Wett]

Oh snap Madman! lives in Tukwilla, the same Madman! that runs joemadfan.com. Awesome dude, yeah you should come down to the sketchmeet sometimes.

[Madman!]

Yep I'm the same dude. I'll have to reread the thread to see where and when you guys are doing it. Plus I have to pull myself away for San Andreas...I Just beat it that's why I'm on the net now. Is there a model or like just hanging out type thing? I see there was a pizza party or something..I love pizza! I go to the Daniel smith figure drawing on monday and wednesdays so not sure if it's on the same night or not. Is the info still in the Washington thread or has it moved?

[hito]

Hurrah! for The Incredibles!

here's another
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0295984139.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This is nice one. Photo Portraits taken by Hector Acebes journey through Africa form 1948, 1949, and 1953

[Bojee]

Yep I'm the same dude. I'll have to reread the thread to see where and when you guys are doing it. Plus I have to pull myself away for San Andreas...I Just beat it that's why I'm on the net now. Is there a model or like just hanging out type thing? I see there was a pizza party or something..I love pizza! I go to the Daniel smith figure drawing on monday and wednesdays so not sure if it's on the same night or not. Is the info still in the Washington thread or has it moved?
Sketch night we just all hang out and draw together but there's also a drawing session saturday and sunday morning and a painting session monday night.

Hito- cool book. Thanks for sharing.

[figure2]

I am quite surprised that with all the great suggestions that have already been made, that my 3 suggestions weren't mentioned but these books are definately worth a look:

The 1st is "The Drawings of Heinrich Kley", published by Dover Books (isbn# 0486200248). This is not an instruction book but rather a collection of very well done and quirky pen & ink drawings. Good for ideas and inspiration. The drawing to the right of the cover is one of my favorites:

http://www.hannon-illustration.com/figDraw/kleyCover.jpg http://www.hannon-illustration.com/figDraw/kleyInside.gif

Next is "An Approach to Figure Painting for the Beginner" by Howard K. Forsberg, published by North Light Books (isbn# 0891340238). This may be out of print. What connected with me was his approach to figure construction:

http://www.hannon-illustration.com/figDraw/forsCover.jpg http://www.hannon-illustration.com/figDraw/forsInside.jpg

Finally there is "Figure Drawing Without a Model" by Ron Tiner, published by David & Charles, (isbn# 0715306464). The title is deceptive as he recommends working from a model to familiarize yourself with the human figure but then gives you guidelines for reconstructing a figure in your drawings when a model isn't available:

http://www.hannon-illustration.com/figDraw/noModel.jpg

[Bojee]

figure2- Great selections, actually heinrich keys book was mentioned earlier but definitely worth mentioning again. Have you seen the second one?? I don't think they've republished it yet.The other 2 look good too, especially the second one. Thanks a lot for the suggestions. :D

[krispee]

i`ve actually got the Ron Tiner book.....very good, lots of interestiing ideas for getting the figure up and running to start with....establishing pose and weight etc.....very underrated

krispee

[figure2]

...actually heinrich keys book was mentioned earlier but definitely worth mentioning again. Have you seen the second one??
I own the 2nd book from when it was originally published. The title is "More Drawings by Heinrich Kley." The isbn # is 0486200418. If you do a search you might be able to find a few copies still being sold.

As a matter of fact... http://isbn.nu/0486200418

[Bojee]

Thanks, I have both of them already. I picked up the other 2 that you mentioned though,thanks for the tip. That's a cool site you had the link to, I've never use them before.:)

[Madman!]

okay cool Bojee I will have to look into it more, sunday sounds like the only day I could probably go.

These have already been mentioned elsewhere on the site, but I thought they should be posted again. I just got...

the Art of Halo
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0345475860.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

and Spectrum 11 just came out and I got that.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1887424814.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


The Art in Halo is great, it's got a lot of art and a lot or renders. If you post on these boards and are a fan of Halo...well then it's a must have.

Spectrum 11 I'm guessing most people here know what it's like...but is now bigger.

[Madman!]

here is another one I got..

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0823001571.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

This book is fantastic it's got some amazing art in there and tons of it. Here are some examples of his stuff..

http://www.gregoryeditions.com/kd_the_stretch.jpg

http://images.easyart.com:80/i/prints/lg/5/9/5983.jpg

there is great sketches in there is well and all the art is at least as good as above of better. Now I haven't read it all the way through yet, but just based on the art I would say definitely recommended.

[faB]

The Art of Simon Bisley" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882931769/103-7731602-2847057?v=glance) ... a real feast for the eyes.

"The Great American Pin Up" (http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/books/popculture/all/facts/02982.htm) ... a real treat for the eyes :wink:

Faeries (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1862055580/ref=ase_lowthcom-21/026-3458528-8618814) This book fueled many strange and scary dreams when I was 10 years old... I remember my father reading me some stories from it while listening to Mike Oldfield 's "Incantations". Anyways... the woods at night have never been the same after this. ;)

Lilo & Stitch : Collected Stories From the Film's Creators (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786853824/103-7731602-2847057?v=glance) Cool concepts, sketches and watercolor backgrounds.

There, I can't resist :
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0786853824.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[eliWolff]

here's one I like..

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0679434488.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Bojee]

Wow, you guys have been busy. Here's one Eli turned me on to. :) :bashful:

http://www.lastgasp.com/pics/popsur.jpg

Tell them all about it Eli. ;)

[tagHeuer]

What an awesome thread, I can't believe this is not stuck to the top of the page yet.

[Chingwa]

This is my bible:

http://www.popgirl.net/public/schmid.jpg

Richard Schmid goes really deep into all sorts of techniques, materials, setups etc. The guy knows what hes talking about and knows how to tell you about it. This has been out of print for a long time, but if you can find a decently priced copy(I got mine 10 years ago for $11 used, but I see them now going for around $200 from used book dealers...), GET IT, you'll love it.

[Bojee]

Chingwa- thanks I've got that one but I've yet to read it yet, one more on the list that I've yet to read, thanks for the recomendation.

tagHeur- Thanks bro, I've started a couple of other things but this is the only one that caught on. :)

[one2hit]

This is my bible:
Richard Schmid goes really deep into all sorts of techniques, materials, setups etc. The guy knows what hes talking about and knows how to tell you about it. This has been out of print for a long time, but if you can find a decently priced copy(I got mine 10 years ago for $11 used, but I see them now going for around $200 from used book dealers...), GET IT, you'll love it.

:O what the...I can't even find that book for under $170! ahhh...I want that book so bad!

[Bojee]

Another one I found at the library that has a lot of the old school illustrators.

The Art of National Geographic
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0792279204.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Chingwa]

Well I wouldn't say it's worth $170 personally, but if you can find it for $50 or so that is more like it. Sounds like something to watch for on Ebay :D