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Al Ian
April 29th, 2004, 09:56 AM
Yeah, its realy been that long. Up til now all I've done was either commissions, DSG's, or linger in the sketchbook.

I started this last night and am relitivly happy with where its going. However I am not happy with the little man. His proportions and what not are cartoony. What I am having difficulty with is the lighting I think. Not realy sure. I need a pair of fresh eyes to take a look at this and tell me what you see!

http://jmarkey77.home.bresnan.net/images/wip/choosing.jpg

DETAIL
http://jmarkey77.home.bresnan.net/images/wip/detail1.jpg

Elwell
April 29th, 2004, 10:13 AM
On first looking at it I had absolutely no idea what was going on. If you hadn't said it was a little man I never would have guessed.

I assume the big lump in the middle is the back of his head, the shape above it is his back and neck, the two lumps on the bottom are his knees, and he's holding fire in one hand and (something?) in the other?

If you don't know your anatomy inside out trying to invent a pose like this is going to be nothing but trouble. Save yourself the heartache and reference it.

shortmikeshort
April 29th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.

Choose fire or a leftover prop from Tron.

Choose life.

Al Ian
April 30th, 2004, 07:59 AM
shortmikeshort - lol, while humoris thats pretty much it. I would like to take your text and add it to this image if I may (minus the explicitives) if that is ok with you?

Al Ian
April 30th, 2004, 08:30 AM
I am continuing to detail the little man. I looked up some refference material and took some interesting digital photo's of myself (dont ask, please). And I see what you mean about the anatomy. While I do want it to be exadurated, it was a little extreem. When it comes to the hands and knee's. Without completely redoing the perspective I am not sure how to correct that. I'll continue to play to see what I get.

http://jmarkey77.home.bresnan.net/images/wip/detail2.jpg

shortmikeshort
April 30th, 2004, 09:51 AM
You'll have to check with "Trainspotting" first. Wicked movie.

Al Ian
May 1st, 2004, 05:17 PM
Thanks shortmikeshort LOL



I redid the head, added a hint of a leg from the knee on his right leg. Also added some flesh reflection off of the floor. Thoughts?

http://jmarkey77.home.bresnan.net/images/wip/detail3.jpg

gasmask
May 1st, 2004, 09:52 PM
ill be honest, you should really start over because its impossible to tell what that thing is w/out explanation, sorry if i sound harsh but i think most would agree, and like said above, study anatomy.

Al Ian
May 2nd, 2004, 10:03 PM
Starting over wont help if I dont know what I need to relook at. I've looked at refference material a good bit for this since some of the above advice. I look at my image and am able to see exactly whats going on with no effort. Course thats probably because its my art. I know if you cant tell then I need to do something, but what is that something???

gasmask
May 3rd, 2004, 03:12 AM
you need to work with the form more, define the big shapes then refine the minor and secondary details. like if u look at the human figure, its obvious when u look at someone crouched over, so try to imagine that when u paint ur image, try to replicate the anatomy and tone down the lights.

Al Ian
May 3rd, 2004, 08:36 AM
That makes some sence. Let me see what I can do... (still confused).

This charictor is not a human. I was thinking of changing his skintone to grey like most of my aliens. Maybe that would help then clear up the form with highlights and shading. As it seems most people on the varios forums are critisizing the little guy like a human. Could that be it? As I am not attempting to make his anatomy human like.

Here is an example of the type of creature he is.
http://jmarkey77.home.bresnan.net/images/big/digitalart/punkrocker.jpg

Now the image I am working on I am trying to do it without the line work. Could that be a fault I should correct to help this piece?

I have no problems redoing the whole image as I realy want to do this piece. However I'm still confused lol. <--- sad!