Need Crits/Advice on this Tarzan

[teyekanik]

Trying to get a good frazeta style pice.. any suggestions on how to make Tarzans figure pop better?

http://home.comcast.net/~teyekanik/tarzan_copy.jpg


Thanks for any help!

[killing.people]

add a brighter color behind him. that will pop him.
his right leg needs to be thicker, imo.

[liquidjack]

most definitely...some backlighting.

[teyekanik]

http://inkmafia.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/tarzan2copy.jpg


working on it.. fixed the leg and lightened the bg. Very sloppy right now but I want some advice along the way.. thanks to everyone who has helped so far. .. .

[Elwell]

The body is still waaaaay to overmodelled. Each small form is fully rendered from darkest dark to lightest light, and you end up with something that looks like a bunch of grapes. The handling of the foreground gorilla is much more what you should be aiming for. Although honestly I liked the ape and the background better as linework + flat color. Could you post the original drawing?

[teyekanik]

I see what you're saying.. .haha, grapes.. I see that now. It happens to me alot when I don't use reference at all. thanks for the tips and here's the original pencil.
http://home.comcast.net/~teyekanik/tarzanOcopy.jpg

[Chris Beatrice]

You've really lost a lot of the form going from line to color, which is surprising. Just look at his abs and chest. In the line art, they are (correctly) somewhat flat, like raised blocks or something. In the painting they're very round. This is not because you've gone from full light to full dark, but because of the shapes of the light and dark areas.

For example, his upper left ab is a triangle in the line drawing, but reads as a sphere in the painting, because of the shape of the lit area in the painting (it's basically round).

You need to learn to deal with shape and form differently when you're doing it with areas of value, vs. line drawing. Your intitial drawing is beautiful.

The other very important thing (I sound like a broken record on this forum), especially since you've said you're intending a "Frazetta style" pic is, don't approach your color work as "shading" or "black + color." In your line drawing you've largely captured much of Frazetta's look, in terms of the clear areas of light and dark, but there is soooo much more going on in the dark areas of Frazetta's paintings than in your color work.

Personally I would recommend you find your own way to paint.

-Chris