concept art for scifi

[JOST]

Concept painting for a scifi-project:
Finally I cant`t use it because my professor don`t like this illustration.
An entrance door inside a spaceship (rich in ornament) - that`s why my prof is not very amused ...
pencil drawing (painter)
http://www.tsoj.de/diplom/final/durchg02_700x623.jpg

[Joeslucher]

So you're teacher didn't like it because there was so much ornamentation?
I don't understand that. Obviously it's supposed to be futuristic. The fact that it's more ornamental makes me just think it's set during a time when space travel is more common and ships become more like homes. There'd be a more more decorative architecture to it than the utilitarian designs of today.

But.......a lot of it just seems impractical. It looks like you'd trip going through that door and it looks like it would seal off but it doesn't appear that the parts would match up. The arrows bug me since they seem slapped on. I like the vents around it. Some of the doo dads you seem to love could be changed to functional items. Like the two things going up onto ceiling could be lights or some of the little squares running along the ceiling could be lights. Maybe you could have some buttons in there too.

[mk.]

Hi Jost,

... did your teacher said why he dont like it? Or did he just said he dont like it?

Anyway, i think theres a porblem with the perspective... it seems to me every little detail has is on perspective.

Overall i like it. looks a bit like the Mayas made it to space.
Could be an entrance for an sci-fi temple. But i personally think its not made by humans... or at least not from a culture i know from earth....

mk

[deviousg]

he has obvously never seen Giger's work for alien..

I think it looks great - the ornamentation doesn't bother me - there is something sort of 'comic like' about it that detracts for me.

The realm of probability and realism is often stretched for visual appeal - sometimes it is tossed out the window completely.

This notion that science fiction needs to exist within rigid scientific principle is dumb.

'yah, but if your plasma inverter was out of alignment the neutrino count would be too low, and the reactor coil would never be able to contain dilithium leakage of that magnitude, duh!'

[The Brett]

Your teacher's a tool.

In fact most teachers are tools, that's why they're teachers.

*ooooh burn*

But seriously, I'm a design prof for the summer, so I can't very well talk. But that's a great picture, and it'll make an even greater painting, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know jack. That's right .. I said it.

-the (very cranky & tired) Brett
www.thebrett.com

[JOST]

Thanks a lot for your replies.

In fact my prof told me that his point why he didn`t like this picture is
- the look of the presented scifi environment is copied from popular scifi movies -no invention
- the ornamentation is illogical (the space ship is a transportation ship for prisoners) - the interior had to be more paltry, a means to an end and not so stylish

I think he`s right (a little bit).

But I will tell him eure arguments.
Maybe it`s not a good idea to tell him that he`s a tool. (it`s an old prof for design).

I`m shure he knows Giger but I´m also shure that he didn´t like his art.

The comic look could be caused by the pre-pencil sketch. First I did the the pencil sketch on paper, scanned and then worked on it in Painter 7. The outlines are still there.
The thing with the plasma converter - I had to tell this to my prof ;-)

I realized that there is a problem with the perspective. My inquiry in production design examples shows me that most of them are not perfect in details. So I thought it would not bother me. I had seen examples from the "Alien"Movie ... The Mayas in space. Cool idea maybe I can work this into my story plot, with your permission ...

The handling of the sluice isn´t perfect. But this is one of my first tries for a space ship interior.

Now i will draw up a new style of scifi, more paltry!

[mk.]

>>Cool idea maybe I can work this into my story plot, with >>your permission ...

Funny question... Sir! Permission granted, Sir! :)
This is a public forum if you like an idea or something is inspiring you: take it or leave it.

Hmmm, about your teacher... i think its great that you can make Sci-Fi Concepts. And maybe you are right that he doesent like Giger-Stuff :) Many artists i know say the pics are okay but the artists suggs. Even after 10 Years he nearly made no progression and in every interview you read he says something about how evil the world was to him, they have stolen the aliendesign etc. Well, that happens to others too but they dont cry around all the time... maybe thats the point why Ppls dont like Gigerstuff.
I personaly think he have some very cool pics and some very bad ones. The Alienthings were his best idea. Also i see that he have not made big progressions.

Anyway... maybe your teacher is right with that prisoner thing.
You could make a check-list for thing that are important and things that are not important.
I see it this way:
Important: Prison-Cells, Security, Life-Support, optimal space usage

Not important: Design, Communication (whatever) and how userfriendly the whole system is (could be see as Design too)

that would look more like a borgcube without the drones but prisoncells, or that matrix-birth-chambers.
The best thing would be if you could just freeze em. So you dont have any problems with them while travelling in Space... like in Minority report or DemolitionMan

my 2 cents
hope that helps a bit :)

mk

[deviousg]

sorry - had to come back in on this.

Curious what others think - but isn't saying that you do not like Giger like saying you don't like Picasso, it is basically not relevant?

The question is who was Picasso, how did he advance and define the state of the art, no?

(not that your teacher said he didn't like Giger)

Maybe what he is getting at is that the ornemantation doesn't appear to be motivated. He has a point if the assignment was a prison ship. However, if you went into this thinking something like, 'yah, the prisoners in this concept belong to an ancient religious cult, that somehow survived from the days of pyramid building into the age of space flight.' That would be cool! (Stargate, hello!) Who wants to see another sci-fi coridoor with pipes and steam - Speaking of Alien, that was done to perfection there - and it was new!

As far as being 'comic-like,' maybe I am reacting to the perspective issues. I wonder if maybe you also used a finer drawing tool on some of the detail, so it doesn't look outlined?

[JOST]

For myself I´m influenced by Giger´s art and that´s the cause of the reaction by my prof, - I think ...
This is one of my first illustration I showed to my teacher. He was very discontented.

I had to prove your idea with finer drawing tools ...
on the other hand - after the meeting with my prof I stopped working on this illustration - so it´s not really finished. Probably the comic style look would still remain.

A religious cult based on a caste of guards - that´s an idea
(Calling of lock up all criminal elements in the galaxy)

jost



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