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June 21st, 2011, 06:28 PM
Sorry about that just starting the thread into the sketchbook section instead apologies for that.
Hi everyone what im basically doing is doing atleast a sketch a day speed paint or drawing and im looking for crits and feedback on how to improve.
I am studying VFX atm and have a strong interest in character design and really want to improve as the skills of drawing im hoping will keep pushing my 3D further you can be as brutal as you want, i'd rather someone said something was crap and how to improve rather then just to say its alright :)
Look forward to hearing from you
(braces self :P)
June 21st, 2011, 08:09 PM
Tablets definitely take some getting used to. Why don't you just use pencil and paper?
I looked at characterdesigns.com a little bit. I'd recommend set 034 Part 2 Female Nude (red head). You can actually see everything (for the most part), they are fairly good poses and views, and no weird fish-eye lenses and camera angles.
I think doing heads like that boy's from photos is a waste of your time right now. For rendering you need to start with spheres and boxes and stuff.
Same with the figure. You need to learn how to draw simple 3D shapes first. You said you're working from Loomis right? Don't just stare at the book, copy them. And do it step by step the way he shows, don't go crazy and think you can start at the end. If you learn to draw three-dimensionally right from the beginning it will give you a HUGE head start.
I'm not sure why you have that proportion scale next to your figure because you're not using it at all. If you're going to do drawings like that, start with a vertical line the height of your figure, break it up into eighths (or so, head lengths), and then start constructing the figure.
June 21st, 2011, 08:33 PM
heya at the moment i dont have space for the paper on my desk its a small desk barely has enough room for my monitor and keyboard on it so just becomes convenient to use a tablet :)
just before heading off to sleep right now ive started doing what a previous poster mentioned about the head planes also after doing loomis' ones in the book i decided to find a picture of someones head and just look for the planes and draw them from that. i deleted the last ones though keep making mistakes now i'm that tired
for the bodies when starting them i do what loomis says about building a base skeleton as it where then fleshing it out i just ended up rubbing out most of it in that picture but yer not sure how i managed to miss the guidlines i set myself XD
June 22nd, 2011, 10:59 AM
ok so an update for today almost ran out of time as i have to get ready for work in 2 mins XD looking forward to the feedback :)
June 22nd, 2011, 11:30 AM
Looking for crits, eh?
You're definitely starting out right working on proportions.
I would advise against starting so hard, though. The human form is very difficult to start with. Try something a bit easier... something like a wine bottle... measure its proportions, learn its anatomy... then draw. Try to refine it and take it to the highest level.
Then draw fancier bottles, and more complex shapes. The body will be easier to handle if you do.
June 23rd, 2011, 03:28 PM
may give that ago the problem is i find the human form alot more interesting ill give it ago for my next drawing though mayaswel see how that goes :)
heres a sketch for today i did just a random photo on google i found pitty it was cut off at the waist started to get into it
June 23rd, 2011, 07:23 PM
another pic last one before i go bed a couple of friends and i decided to do a speed paint and i chose one from this forum the robot bird think it may have been a old one but i thought what the hell it sounds cool :P we gave ourselves an hour prob will take this further and paint it in.
Its supposed to be a robot kingfisher
June 23rd, 2011, 07:36 PM
Great sketches. :) Drawing the planes from a photo is a good idea, I think.
June 24th, 2011, 07:54 PM
todays one going to do quite a few hand studies tomorrow not proud of this one had to hurry it as i have to get up early tomoz but said id post one a day so had to get summin together
June 26th, 2011, 05:08 PM
just a some hand sketches i have been doing recently hoping it will eventually help when doing full bodies and i wont be so intimidated when i see hands next stop feet :P
June 27th, 2011, 08:47 AM
an update more hands just been studying the hands in the loomis book "drawing the head and hands" and trying to get those down and trying to see any relations as i am drawing
June 27th, 2011, 05:47 PM
another update on the hands for today just 3 more slowly making my way through loomis.
Shout if you see anything going wrong in these please :)
Edit: looking at it now think i am making the top of the hands to wide
June 28th, 2011, 09:07 PM
A drawing from today this was a speed paint that i did with some friends found out i really cant paint
June 29th, 2011, 09:19 AM
decided to go with a painting today quite a few things i need to address though after finishing i noticed the chin is to far back in the head, the forhead is to small, the right eye is not quite the right shape and i think the white is slightly to harsh
still stepping stones i guess :)
June 29th, 2011, 09:58 AM
You're actually a pretty good painter, it's just the proportions that are a bit off. You already picked up on some of your errors with the portrait above, which is good. I think flipping the work as you paint will really help you as you will be able to see the works with a new eye after staring at it for so long. This will help pick up on any issues while you paint, rather than after you finish.
Good luck and keep it up.
July 1st, 2011, 02:19 PM
another update before i lose the internet for a while :)
id did what you said and it helped out quite alot think i've improved abit on the old one which is good ^^
July 7th, 2011, 02:57 PM
just managed to hop on someones net not getting it back till monday it seems :/ heres a update :) not to keen on the head but will eventually end up painting an entire body XD
July 11th, 2011, 10:50 PM
so internets back so time to start posting again heres a painting i did for a facial study really am trying to knuckle down likeness in paintings and drawings and make my pencil markings more accurate to what i am drawing from
July 13th, 2011, 08:09 AM
another drawing think im going to do a few eye studies just to get used to drawing that almond shape XD
July 13th, 2011, 11:32 AM
a quick drawing before work for a lil competition thing me and a couple of friends are doing just thought id post it up as its different to my usual drawings :) and everything counts right :Dhttp://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/velentry/Stuff/spiralknightsrogue.jpg
July 13th, 2011, 11:46 AM
You're showing noticeable improvements already and in such a short amount of time, keep up the good work!
July 14th, 2011, 01:09 PM
K so update for today cheers for the reply feel i may have destroyed the beautiful emma watson in my drawing hope she dont mind :D its a learning cuve one day i hope to get there :D
July 16th, 2011, 12:52 PM
update for yesterday working on a female monkey character http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/velentry/Stuff/150711_Female_Monkey.jpg
July 18th, 2011, 08:02 PM
hey again just some eye studies i have been doing found a new way of doing eyes that i think give me much more believable results and help me make them more accurate then how i was doing eyes previously
The top 2 are the old way and the ones below are me slowly getting used to the method XD
July 21st, 2011, 05:09 PM
decided to try a male face this time think i have improved from the last portrait and from the drawing i lowered the eyes as i noticed mid painting that actually the eyes were far to high looking at it again now prob should have brought the chin down lower with that
July 21st, 2011, 08:27 PM
Very nice improvement over a short period of time.
I would say work on blocking out the forms first and then work into the details later. Also work on real life (non photo) references more.
July 22nd, 2011, 05:16 PM
something different from the usual and will be for a while doing some enviroment concepts planning to make a short film with some friends in 3d which should be awsome heres the first concept its a dock based in the 1940's going to do quite a few though before i take it into any detail these are all quite quick so i can get lots of ideas out
July 25th, 2011, 07:09 PM
another landscape this ones in colour i think i should have planned out a city in the background rather then backing straight onto a sort of countryside finding landscapes quite abit harder then i thought
July 27th, 2011, 07:21 PM
another portrait got bored of doing landscapes going back to them tommorrow i think what will help me for them is to get much more reference of them
anyways here is my attempt at Katy Perry hope you like
August 24th, 2011, 08:40 AM
ok minor set backs here and there but a new portrait going to concentrate on full bodys from now on http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/velentry/Stuff/200811_Portrait.jpg
August 26th, 2011, 10:10 AM
forgot to upload this yesterday a full body drawing i started to paint it however didnt get round to finishing so just included to the sketch with the background and mask layer.
August 26th, 2011, 12:15 PM
oo onto a new page well not sure if its a good start though a fail drawing similiar to the very first post a black and white drawing only this time its almost full body
August 31st, 2011, 09:43 AM
todays drawing of a female full body this time i wanted to try a different way of shading instead of painting it i decided to go with a hatch style to create shadows in the drawing.
September 1st, 2011, 06:31 PM
bit of a late update but a drawing i plan on taking into painting still trying to get my proportions better on the face
September 2nd, 2011, 04:10 PM
k so spent a while painting this one the only thing i dont like about it is i think i brang the head slightly to forward and the nose could be prettier
September 2nd, 2011, 09:00 PM
just corrected some things that were really grating on my quickly :P
September 10th, 2011, 01:40 PM
a line drawing i did today will end up painting this i reckon any feedback is much appreciated :)
September 11th, 2011, 07:46 PM
finished painting the one above going to move on to blokes now i think and make this thread less biased to one sex
September 14th, 2011, 06:22 PM
a page of bridgemans hands at first i wasnt to sure how to go about starting these but putting in abit of loomis i realised what everything was :P going to keep doing some of these aswel im finding it helps to understand how the subject works and also it seems bridgeman goes into more depth on anatomical features which is awsome.
September 15th, 2011, 03:16 PM
more hand studies from the bridgeman book slowly making my way through the section
September 19th, 2011, 12:04 PM
some more studies the 2 on the right are from the bridgeman guide to drawing from life book and the 2 on the left are the results of going through his process at the very beginning of the book about to start on the weding,passing and locking section :)
September 19th, 2011, 12:21 PM
great stuff for far, the only thing I would suggest is = you lack tone variation, logically in real life, no-one is made of black lines... So your drawings shouldn't really be made of black lines either, if you want to go for a realistic approach (which I think you are, since you keep on making portraits reproduction :P, if it's not the case, please pardon me) I mean, line art are really fine to use depending on the style you are trying to achieve (aka manga, or comic book) Anyway, what I'm trying to say is = with more tone variation you will create optic illusion and give the shape to what you're drawing (so basically lightning and shadows applied properly)
Anyhow, really great drawings so far, and I would say my most favourite is that last digital painting of yours (the lady in purple) cause is shows you took more time/confuse on reproducing the tone variation.
September 19th, 2011, 08:18 PM
cheers for the feedback yer i totally agree with everything you said to be honest i do find tone the most difficult and when painting i do try to keep pushing and pushing the tones but ill definately try to focus more on that area cheers :)
2 more studies from the bridgeman book today :) i found the twist in the male body particularly difficult.
September 20th, 2011, 07:30 PM
just a couple more drawings to add to the thread i also started on a armature atm to give a bit of change to drawing
September 22nd, 2011, 07:53 PM
a small update i feel im improving with bodies but faces they are the bane of me i feel i just cant get them right im not sure what but something is definatly wrong with the face might come to me tommorrow :/
September 23rd, 2011, 01:49 PM
more face studies feels like i have gone backwards as im really struggling with these have been working on the loomis book this time looking at the heads.
September 27th, 2011, 02:37 PM
Another face for the thread have been out of the loop for a few days due to moving house http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/velentry/Stuff/092711_Female_Face.jpg
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