View Full Version : Update 5/04: Ripping off El Coro and Rinaldo (violence & nudity)
Teknoholic
April 20th, 2004, 08:21 PM
New stuff's on the bottom, like yogurt. Sorta.
Hey yallz, I haven't posted anything in a long while. I've been trying out the process El Coro used in that demo in the "Best of CA" section. But I've dropped the pen & ink in favor of pencil, and I think I'll drop the inkwash in favor of watercolor on the next one. Rinaldo was also pretty influential here.
This is called 'Self-Portrait as the Whiner" just to be nice and pretentous about it. The first in a series of, well, three so far. And while we're being pretentous, let me say this: No reference used! (Man, I hate when people say that... :) )
Please give me any feedback you may have, I'd like to work on it digitally a little, so changes are no problem.
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/The_Whiner.jpg
Teknoholic
April 20th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Oh, and here's some other crap.
Tell me what you think:
"Survivor's Ball" by Kelley Link inspired this.
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/survivorsball600MQ.jpg
Some Phillip Glass song inspired this.
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/mountainbots600MQ.jpg
amphex
April 20th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Wow man, awesome work!
I LOVE that last piece....very well done, I love the colors and the amazing style.
Is that colored pencils?
dem0n
April 20th, 2004, 09:38 PM
haha "gotcha"
love you stuff man, really impressive.
that last one reminds me of the animatrix, were the ambasadors of 'zero one' come before the world counsil (or something like that)
i love the absurdity in the first one, hope to see more of that :)
Teknoholic
April 21st, 2004, 01:35 PM
amphex: Thanks for the compliments. Yes, it's Prismacolors over inkwash with a little guache in places to punch stuff out. Like this. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=20145)
dem0n: "Gotcha" indeed. Ugh. :p Yeah, that robot couple in the Second Renaissance was cool. Some crits at school here told me to go less absurd and more narrative, so I'm sitting on the fence still... Thanks for your compliments.
strych9ine
April 21st, 2004, 02:25 PM
The absurdity is the charm of the first piece... the smiling Mitsubishi keychain and "cake is here!" had me laughing my ass off for som reason. It's so nuts that it makes sense. They are all well rendered pieces, nice work!
superdoopulous
April 21st, 2004, 09:56 PM
Thumbs up to the curo-scuro on the piece of cake. I really can sense the enigmatic gestural expressionism from the last piece. Needs more shoulder-turrets, though. And by more I mean all.
Teknoholic
April 23rd, 2004, 07:07 PM
So, uh, criticism? Somebody? Anybody??
PS - I hate you Superdoopulous. :D
el coro
April 24th, 2004, 12:59 AM
nice ones dude. fun technique, eh? well i'll tell you first off that the alcohol inks are way faster than watercolor, and they wont fuck up you paper asmuch. if you opt to use watercolor, you gotta use watercolor paper, which changes the way the colored pencil and gouache apply..just warning ya. i use colored pencil instead of iblack ink alot for a softer more "realistic" look. colored pencils work better thanpencil cuz they dont smear as much when you wash color on the page, and they are color, as opposed to dull gray. but the lalternative is to wash the page first, then apply the pencil on top of it, thats what my young office mate nate van dyke has been ding lately, with wonderful results. -oh, and tint your gouache dude! everyone always uses white gouache on top of red toned ink, and it just makes an ugly pink. try tinting your gouache a complimentary color to what you are staining the paper. it makes it much more visually interesting color wise. cant wait to see more-c36
Nadim
April 24th, 2004, 01:58 AM
I'm in love with the first one.
Very well balanced, the composition or the colours.
I would only suggest a darker top left and more contrast in general .
And maybe removing the Mitsubishi logo will allow the continuity of the Red/green border line to be more visible ,which in my opinion defines the background well .
You did a good job Teknoholic - let's see more.
Teknoholic
April 25th, 2004, 10:09 AM
coro: Thanks for your very helpful tips! You were right about the watercolor method, the process turns out very differently indeed. Not sure I like it, I think it would be better for bigger pieces. I may try that wash before drawing idea your boy does, we'll see how confident I am in my painting skillz :) Also, complimentary highlights - very good idea. Thanks again.
king: I totally agree about the darker top left and removal of the Mitsuthing. I had a pretty hard time resolving that in the first place because it's red on green on red, the whole thing got pretty confusing and wierd shit was going on with the silhouette. I'll try photoshopping it out, I'm sure it would look better. Anyway, greater overall contrast would probably pop the thing more, I was just in such a fruity mood when I was making it... :D
More is on da way. Thanks everyone for your feedback!
Teknoholic
April 27th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Went for a more narrative structure on the advice of a couple proffessors... My ex got cancer about a year and a half ago, and for a long time I guess I felt it was in some way my fault (because I'm an egomaniac :rolleyes: ). She's recovered, and all is well once more in the land of Moof.
Please critique if you got a sec!
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/cancer_breathing_party_monster.jpg
Nadim
April 28th, 2004, 03:18 AM
-You believe in the colour
wheel and the complementary
colours theory - well applied and I love it.
-Contrast is fine this time.
-I'm not so comfortable
with the face on the sphere
(top left) -either it had to be
bigger or not there at all.
-Also the square at the top
middle - draws the attention
from other more attractive
elements of your composition
I dig the LALALALALALA on the girl .
let's see some more .
Summer Pudding
April 28th, 2004, 06:11 AM
That first image is dynamite. Oh man, I love it! I imediately thought of the Captain Beefheart song, The Past sure is Tense.
knockout.
:beer:
Teknoholic
May 4th, 2004, 07:37 PM
This one's a little crazy, but at least that's out of my system. This is about cancer again, and the crappy way that myself and others have dealt. I guess.
Please TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS! (I know it's messed up. :D )
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/standing_idly_by800.jpg
BlueMech
May 4th, 2004, 09:23 PM
I love your style, and what it portrays. Well, I don't like cancer, but you know what I mean, right?
Joeslucher
May 4th, 2004, 09:53 PM
That first one is georgeous. The last one seems to lack the finish but makes up for it in content. My dick hurts just looking at that guy biting, stretching, wrapping and sawing it his stuff. You pushed both the characters to extremes. The face on the tree is nice as it creates a third person view of what was happening with you and your ex, and it's fitting that they're more like a setting than actual people.
The "NA" seems superfluous.
Why do you have a pinochio nose?
Are there actually words on that text message thing?
n69n
May 4th, 2004, 11:15 PM
i love these!
& i really identify with the emotions going on in here!
(unfotunatley)
also i want to say that you must be an incredible person to find the humor & beauty in such pain.
Teknoholic
May 5th, 2004, 12:24 PM
King: I agree about the face. I wanted it to be awkward, like a conscience or third person jutting in, but it would definately work better bigger. Also, good call about the condom (red square). I didn't realize how central it was until you mentioned it! Thank you very much for your comments.
Summer Pudding: I'll have to check that out.
BlueMech: Thanks for the compliment, I know what you mean. :)
Joeslucher: Thanks for your comments. The 'NA' is actually a pet name I guess that I gave her when she is being negative. 'Lalala' in the second one (on the beach) is another pet name for when she's being positive. If you put them together they make Alanna. It was a fun little way to mess with her. I guess I have a Pinochio nose because I'm a liar. :D Also, the cellphone/penis says:
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/standing_idly_by_detail.jpg
n69n: Thanks for your comments. I don't know if I'm incredible, so much as there.
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/cancer_breathing_party_monster_detail.jpg
http://student.mica.edu/bharris/other/The_Whiner_detail.jpg
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