United Kingdom

[Molly]

Hello friends,

Thought I'd start a thread for us lot over here. We've all been discussing meeting up in another thread anyway, but this way new ppl from the UK may view this thread more so we'll catch their attention.

Mollyx

[discs79]

HI I’m from the UK... Derby to be more specific

my work

dominion79 (http://www.dominion79.co.uk)

[cartoonfox]

hey nice idea to add a new whole new sub-forum for this. ^-^

well, i'm in. i'll be able to saty at my dads house. the coach trip will be the only thing that will cost a lot, but it should be fine.

i was wondering if my brother could come too? i didnt really want him to come, but he sulked for an hour so i decided to ask! i felt guilty ^-^
he's 15. he just joined here as Meta, he'll be posting later maybe.

anyway, i hope its not a problem. if we go to any bars, will i be able to be his guardian or something?

anyway, i cant wait for this. discs79, lol we dont need to see your portfolio for you to join, artists of all levels can join ^-^, nice work though :)




peace

[discs79]

Hey Fox...

do you every hang out at Flashkit.. I recognise your Avatar

[cartoonfox]

hi, yeah i used to visit flashkit a lot, but not any more, CA.org is taking up all my time ^-^

[discs79]

Yeah I'm switching between the two at the mo... I find more inspiration here...

I tend to use Flashkit to find interesting news stories and watch the older members argue about Iraq and the plite of the world! :D

[Schlo-mo]

*BLIP*
I'm waiting for confirmed dates :)

[Molly]

discs79 - niiiiice stuff man, lurve the camojacket

cartoonfox - brothers more than welcome...

Schlo-mo - was the dates the 1st weekend in May? If so, I'm up for that, tho I'm not too sure if MayDay protest is going ahead...I'm confirmed whatever mate ^_^

If not 1st or 2nd of May is cool
OR
29th or 30th - it's a bank holiday weekend...

Mollyx;)

[sketchling]

Hi all!

30th(after 6:30), the 1st all good for me. I dont have the friday off. Im very keen to meet you guys.

One other thing.... where? Nat history museum is great for sketching creatures, etc... science museum for technical stuff... coffee shop for... well, coffee and talking shite. And sketching between espresso's. (too many and the only thing ya can draw is trees...)

anyways, what do you all think? I can submit a vote if we cant make up our minds... which is inevitable.

K

[lowpolymatt]

Im in London....hello fellow UK'ers!

[Makafui]

hello ladies
milton keynes for me ooh yea...in door snow boarding central.

[Molly]

Hello guys/gals

Sketchling - If you wanna meet Friday after 6.30, I'll meet up wit ya? A poll sounds good too...

1st of May is a Saturday. We could all meet out side either:
British Museum - near Tottenham court road, (plenty of cafes, bars'n'pubs) The John Soane Museum; also a little walk to the Nat Portrait Museum, Trafalgar Sq etc
Nat History Museum - close to the V&A & the Science Museum

I'd suggest we keep our first meeting simple, bring sketchbooks to show while introducing ourselves. Then go and do at least 1-2 hrs work??? In a museum??? Meet back up then go for a bite, drink???

What do you all think?
PLEASE state what your keen on doing....??? Discs? Schlo-mo? Cartoonfox? Dirty_C? Tomoscopic? Kim-L? Lowpolymatt? Makafui?

Mollyx

i'll Pm a few others...

[sketchling]

Yo!

Mollyx : Im keen for fri night coffee or something. Im working in soho, on wardour street, livin in southfields/wimbledon, so anywhere between the two is the best for me, but can gladly travel otherwise. Can maybe think up some idea's for the next day or whatever (like a daily-sketch type thing). I carry my sketchbook with me as standard, so drawings always an option :) .

As for where... its all good. British museum has a very wide variety of ancient stuff which is gorgeous to draw. Id vote that way. Its close to the national gallery too, but I doubt we will have time for more than just the B-museum... its HUGE.

I recon we could just go and sketch, or we could have a concept-idea we need to research. like Ancient starship, or something more origional... or a choice of a few. One tends to do more when you have something to go on though...

anyways, lookin forward to it!
Cheers
K

[Dirty C]

Aah, so this is where the party went! yeah, I'm keen for the first.

And Sketchthang - you work in Wardour street? One of the effects places?

[discs79]

sorry kids,

I'm skint at the mo, can't make the first....

[sketchling]

yeah, im in MPC - The Moving Picture Company. link (http://www.moving-picture.com)

Im not in the movie department though. Im in the advertising/documentary section. Matte painting concentration camps at the moment... (having just finished doing facial textures for hitler...)

All good fun I say.
K

[Dirty C]

Ha! You work with my mate Ollie! I'm trying to get into that lot at the moment, actually. Small world etc etc

[*Kim-L*]

*sigh* I'm sad to say ... I can't make it next week for the meet. :( But, I hope you guys have loads of fun. Maybe I'll make it on the next meet! :)

[Dirty C]

Well, the austin group is meeting weekly. That's a bit much for an area this size, but what about if we tried to nominate a weekend every month? I'm finding myself getting a bit un-motivated just now, and i know come the austin con ,we're all gonna be jealous as hell!

Too much? Attendance not mandatory, of course, but if we make it a regular thing, we can always just confirm whether we're making it or not..

[Dirty C]

Hey, this should all be going in the official thread, just so you know:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=212105#post212105

[Molly]

Girls and Guys,

How about:

WHEN: 1st MAY 2004
TIME: 11.00am
WHERE: outside the NATIONAL GALLERY, Trafalger Square.
Nearest tube, Charing Cross & Leicester Square. Theres also the National Portrait round the corner, so we have a good choice of places to visit.

Please confirm, Yes or No,
*Kim-L* - we'll defo have another meet, so you best come along to that one girlie!:D
PM me if your up for it!!!!

All in?

Molly

[Dirty C]

Yay! In! Yup!

[sketchling]

Im in!

:)

Its gonna rock. I may have 2 artist friends of mine coming along too. dont know for sure yet though.

Brilliant! Are we gonna make a daily concept thing out of it too?

K

[Molly]

- Hey Sketchling, the more the merrier...
Daily Concept thang? I see why not - what do you have in mind?

Other UK People - you all out there?

Mollyx

My mobile: 07932 907 779 - dirty_c - you got this number already, Cartoonfox and bro? Tomoscopic?
C'mon people!!!:D

Mx

[sketchling]

its the thing I mentioned earlier in the forum.. with like a theme... like a daily sketch 'two words' thing where we have a goal in mind. eg an alien portrait and go to the national portrait gallery... Get idea's from there and do a concept sketch using influences from images in the gallery.

MAybe im just thinking too much, but a theme tends to allow ppl to tether their brains to something and then let the creativity run wild.

This is going to be cool :) Even if tiny, its all good!
K

[Molly]

- nah Sketchling you aint thinking too much - thats a cool idea!!!

We've got the National Portrait and British Museum round the corner from each other, so there's nuff influence there to work on.

About your alien idea - we should try it!? How about fantasy creature too??? (duh, same thing?) Do some sketching ourselves throughout the day, at prefered museum, then taken what we've all done, find a nice bar/pub sit down and let our imaginations go wild????

About MSN messenger - I'm at work, and they frown like grumpy bastards upon all that - BUT! I shall endeavour to put it on my machine anyhoo... now, where'd you get yours from/ where can I download... blah blah blah

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

hey molly, i got your pm but i cant come this time :( i have my art exam like the next week and i need to prepare.

but next time (next month? week? year?) i will come for sure.


have fun, i'll see you guys soon ^-^




peace

[Summer Pudding]

hello lads and lasses

I hope to be there. It'd be great to meet y'all. Who's wearing the carnation in their lapel?

:)

[sketchling]

Well... dunno about a carnation, but ill be wearing a t-shirt with a manga robot on it most likley... lots of curly hair and always a pair of hiking boots. 07905 275 615 if you need to echo-locate me. :) K

[Dirty C]

Sketchling - excellent idea, haven't heard it before. Saturday it is! Happy happy joy joy :D

[Molly]

PEOPLE!!!

Looking forward to it! It's gonna be great!

I'll wear...er.... combats & pigtails? I could stretch to a carnation, but my hayfever might kick in an I'll be a-sneezing all over you's HAHA!

Cartoon - man? What? You best come along next time buddie... tho, you could tell your teachers this trip IS PART of your exam???
Anyhoo will arrange a trip especially for you hehe...

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

hehe dont worry, i'll make it next time, i promise. especially if its arranged especially for me, hehehe ;) ^-^

have fun all, i'll be with you all in spirit :D



peace

[sketchling]

Dunno who's going to get a chance to read this before tommorrow, but here are a few idea's for a few theme's

1) A creature portrait in a classical style... like if vermeer were commissioned to paint 'alien', or Rembrant to paint ET...

2) An Art gallery of the future. In this future, Many alien races mingle and interact. This gallery is all about appreciating the diverse kinds of art found amongst different species and planets. (and the kind of spaces one would use to exhibit them)

3) The transport museum... in 3000 years.

Well. Just some idea's. Will hopefully see a few of ya tommorrow... if ya come late and we have actually found eachother and gone somewhere, then my number is a couple a posts up.
Tomollo then
K

[pixelherder]

hope things go well on the day - any chance of an update for those of us who couldnt make it?

[Summer Pudding]

hello playmates,

was there a decent turnout on Saturday? I really wanted to be there: sketchling's ideas sounded fun. Unfortunately, I couldn't get a babysitter to look after my kids for the day.

We have to do this again some day soon.

Keep me posted.

[cartoonfox]

yeah, dont keep us folk out in the dark ^-^ what happend? who turned up? what did you all do? when is the next one? what are next weeks lottery numbers? tell meeeeeeee!! ^-^

i am so gonna go to the next one. as long as its on the weekend, i can come.

also, can any of you post photos and/or pics you did of the day? that would be cool. like a mini amsterdam thing ^-^




peace

[Dirty C]

Hehe don't worry too much, it wasn't a complete loss that you weren't all with us. It turned out to be the most rabid organisers amongst us hashing out exactly what we wanted to do, at length in the Princess Louise tavern :D

The first thing we learnt is that the galleries maybe aren't the best idea. On the weekend, many of them are booked solid, and you tend to wait about two hours to see any shows. So we've decided that the focus of the next one will most likely be the Natural History Museum. For those with an inclination to draw dinosaurs, it's your dream holiday, and there's plenty of other interesting forms and whatnot there too. Makes me think of what Android said in Amsterdam - every book about "artists' anatomy" you read is by an artist, and in some way tainted by their opinion: It's better to read a book which is actually about anatomy and take away only the facts.

Sketchling (Kim)'s ideas got us going alot, and we decided that we're setting an assignment. Kim's ideas are really solid, and exactly what we need for developing skills and imagination, so before the next meet, which henceforth will be the FIRST WEEKEND OF EVERY MONTH, everyone planning to attend will have to produce a Rennaissance Alien. Aliens are maybe a little easy - there's loads of reference we all know and love. But the Rennaissance is a way to draw from artists maybe we don't look at enough - not just their anatomy, but the style of their colours and brushstrokes, yadda yadda. Plus it's an awesome way to turn usual thinking on its head. So get cracking. Maybe we can say final posting should be the Wednesday before the next meet.

Sketchling's got the pics of our beer-and-sarnie conference, so I hope he posts them soon. And I'm looking forward to seeing what you all come up with.

dc

[cartoonfox]

hey, you forgot next weeks lottery numbers. ah well, no worries ^-^


sounds like you had fun. i really wish i came, to meet all you guys, but next month i will go for sure. first weekend of every month, sounds great. should become a healthy regular.
so, what we have to do is draw an alien head in the style of an old master? or am i missing something.

hmmm, so did you meet again today? if not, why not? when i go, its gonna cost alot to come from cardiff (coach is loads, train is even more i think) so it would be a bit of a dent in my pocket if i only came for one day.


well sketchling, post those damn photos man. ^-^
and everyone, if you can, post some scans of your sketchbook pages you did.



peace

[sketchling]

Hi all!

I do have the photo's ready for your consumption... most had no heads... but here are some of the better ones:

Mollyx, Dirty_c and some curls of Sketchling... With research material for the Renaissance alien idea... :chug:
http://www.sketchling.com/photos/ca/photo1.jpg

Dirty_c:
http://www.sketchling.com/photos/ca/photo2.jpg

Mollyx or 'T'
http://www.sketchling.com/photos/ca/photo3.jpg

The 3 of us outside the Princess louise...
http://www.sketchling.com/photos/ca/photo4.jpg


(disclaimer here: that alien-in-classical-style idea I got mainly from the
'design studio press book, 'Concept Design' LINK (http://www.designstudiopress.com/)
Its a really good book for promoting different
ways of thinking about concept art and design.)
Other idea's are mine :)

[lowpolymatt]

Looks like you all had a good time...

Wish I could've come along but I was working all weekend...

I'll try and get to the next one!

[sketchling]

Hi Again!

I had some time on monday to work on the alien and this is where it stands so far :
http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/r_alien/r_alien.jpg

Here are the steps I took : (all in all 6-7 hours)
STEPS (http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/r_alien/aliensteps/index.htm)

[Molly]

- Sketch - you fucker!!!

Your pic is f**king cool! I watched you draw that pic in pen in ur sketchbook and look what you've doen with it!?!

Bugger me, man!

Can't wait to see some more!!!

Mollyx:D

[lowpolymatt]

You know I've been thinking....

Why dont we do a kind of ' uk (or London) weekly sketch group' thing.... we pick a subject...agree on it and do some artwork based on the theme. I'd love to do a daily but I wouldn't get time to....but a weekly one would be cool..

It might be a really good way for us all to work on similar themes plus it would be a great talking point for any meets we go to.


Thoughts?

[sketchling]

Lowpoly - Yeah, funnily enough we discussed that at the meeting. Im very keen for that and would be willing to help come up with idea's for the topics. I also just dont have the time for the Daily thing all the time.

Weekly things would get us motivated and give us something to show on the monthly meetings over and above the project we set for that.

I vote YAY :)
K

[lowpolymatt]

WOO! Sounds like a winner and should be the incentive I need to get off my fat ass and actually do some art!

I'm well up for it. So who wants to pick the next subject?

[Dirty C]

Hm. Well what day are we gonna set for these? As before, I'm voting for Wednesdays.

[Molly]

Hey Lads,

Yay for Weekly sketch thang, any day is fine with me.

Mollyx

[lowpolymatt]

Well I'll probably be doing most of my sketchwork at the weekend but any day for submission is good for me.

[sketchling]

Wednesday it is then. So we set a task on a wednesday... and display the previous one at the same time? I assume so. Can do WIP along the way anyways.

Another point : Are we going to mix between character/creature/environments? some people tend towards one or the other, but its a good idea to try different things.. What ya all think?

We could nominate a few people to take it in turns to set the next weeks project... that way character lovers can set characters... etc. that way we can tend towards what we like and still have challenges every week...
(especially if you try to stick with one genre and have to turn something like 'Environment : Ancient Spaceport ' into a character...It could lead to interesting results.)

[sketchling]

Hi all

Mollyx and I were chatting and descided that Weekly Brief's should take the form of 2-3 words, to leave things open ended. DSG style... EG 'Dwarven Astronaught', 'Derelect Planet-Factory' , 'Rusty Steel Garden'... um 'Elven Lumberjack'

So for this week.. as im posting this, lets make the topic one of the above! :D

[Molly]

"Dwarven Astronaut" My choice for subject...

Molly;)

[sketchling]

Im Goin for derelect planet-factory myself. Environments, environments! Oh, and thanks for the spelling correction... :doh:

[Dirty C]

Yup, environments good. I think most of us need to work on that.. Your call, Kim, you're this week's dojo master. (I just decided :P)

[cartoonfox]

yeah man, i'm in too!! i choose derelect planet-factory. lets see if i can chuck some creatures in there ^-^

looking forward to next months meet (the first weekend, right?)

also looking forward to next wednesday, to see what you all get up to.




peace

[Molly]

...ow..eeech...ergh..OWA...ouch....rrrrrrr...caugm pf...

OK, OK - you twisted my arm, 'Derelect-Planet-Factory' it is...tho I'll suck big time on this one....

Looking forward to it....

Molly

- should we choose NOW, who next weeks Dojo master will be???

^_^

[Dirty C]

Er, I think only one person gets to decide :)

[Molly]

- dude, Sketchling in one of his previous posts, suggested:

"We could nominate a few people to take it in turns to set the next weeks project... that way character lovers can set characters... etc. that way we can tend towards what we like and still have challenges every week...
(especially if you try to stick with one genre and have to turn something like 'Environment : Ancient Spaceport ' into a character...It could lead to interesting results.)"

Mollyx

[sketchling]

he he... Actually I was sayin for this week that we can choose any... so each can choose their own from the list... if ya think we should all do the same thing, then its Dwarven flyboy, cause you chose first. :jump1:

I can put the derelect planet-factory in the background of the dwarven astronaut after all... hmmm... I sence a plan comin together...:D

[Dirty C]

heh, ok. I'm gonna have to start learning speed painting techniques, cause I've got a few other things going on. How's the Painter learning coming on, Sketchling?

[sketchling]

I'v had no time yet :) Gonna start learning Z-Brush next... 3d drawing... gonna be interesting! No idea how it works yet, but we shall see. Might try use it in this weeks thing.

Will keep ya posted!

[lowpolymatt]

So are we all doing dwarven astronaut then? Or any one of the four?

[Dirty C]

Just rock any one of them, I think. Ok, another question, you lot. I'm gonna get me an Intuos 'real wacom' in the words of mr manley :) Do you reckon it's worth getting the A4 oversize rather than the A4? I travel alot, so it's a matter of how much easier one is to carry than the other. I reckon the extra space would be awesome, but I dunno if it's worth the extra hassle.

I'm torn between my constant problems with hefting stuff between two houses and the fact that if I don't buy the one i really want, I'm always pissed off in the end. Watcha think??

[sketchling]

Yo!
Im doing a dwarven astronaut salvaging scrap from a metal garden on a 'planet-factory'
... with a big ass EL-V3N 'lumberjack' arc-welder...
THERES ALWAYS A WAY!!!

Dirty-c -
Id just go for the a4... remember that the screen aspect ratio is rectangular and the oversize wacom is square... so if you want to have an identical up-down, left right movement between hand and screen... you wont use some of your tablet area anyways... I am very happy with my A5 at home, though an a4 would rock... got one at work, and it rocks.

I may be wrong about this, as I assume the A4 oversize is the squareish one... Anyways, whatever you do, you CANT go wrong with a WACOM!!!

[lowpolymatt]

I started on a pic this lunchtime on the 'disused planet factory' theme. Should have something to show later on....

Or should we hold off till wednesday and post the final plus steps?

[sketchling]

Nah... post as you work if ya can... we can see what other people are up to. Could help inspire!

[lowpolymatt]

ok, stupid question time....

I need a good hosting solution. Im with BT right now and want to know if anyone knows of any better hosting solutions. I know a lot of traffic hits this place and I dont want to have a little white box with a red cross in it.

Once I've got that sorted I have the first pass of my weekly here for you all to see...

[pixelherder]

i hear a lot of people on conceptart mentioning a site called photobucket that allows you to upload and remote link to pictures (unlike sites like geocities etc)

"Photobucket currently allows 100 megs of disk space ( ~2000 pictures ) and 2,500 megs of bandwidth ( ~50,000 hits )"

Thats seems like plenty and it FREE, otherwise start saving your pocket money for your own website

Nuff respec innit!

[lowpolymatt]

Photobucket will do for now....ta pixie!

[lowpolymatt]

ok, first stab at this...so it might not work!

Theme: Derelict Planet Factory..

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/planet_factory_lo.jpg


and a higher res version...

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/planet_factory_hi.jpg

anyway...er...thank you, that will be all...


p.s. time was about 3 hours at a guess (lunch and a bit tonight )

[Dirty C]

Holy shite. Right, I'll be spending a few more hours than three.... really nice. I did think of the planet-making factory at the end,but you clearly thought about the mechanics behind the concept loads. The gauntlet is thrown, blah blah

[lowpolymatt]

heh, thanks...this is the first bit of concept art i've done in about 6 months...the only real thing ive done in about 3 years to be honest....been too busy poly modelling (hence my name).

Hopefully I'll improve as time goes on....


So come on you lot, lets see some piccies!

Also guys, how do you get your image to appear in the post instead of behind a link?

[Dirty C]

see the buttons above where you enter your text for the message? Click tghe one which says 'img' and put the link in there.

[lowpolymatt]

er...thats what i did?

[pixelherder]

Originally posted by lowpolymatt
er...thats what i did?

basically you want to paste the address of your pic

e.g.
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/planet_factory_lo.jpg

into the box that comes up when you press the IMG button

that should put IMG tags around it and make it appear in your post

I dont know if i can type out exactly what you should see, but replace the round brackets with the square brackets and you get the idea

e.g.

(IMG)http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v192/lowpolymatt/planet_factory_lo.jpg(/IMG)

Ta Da!

[lowpolymatt]

er...once again...thats what I did... :)

[sketchling]

I had the same problem...In the DSG it appears as an image and in this forum it tends to appear as a link.... eh? dunno why!?!?

:confused:

will try again when I'v had a chance to work on the project!

[pixelherder]

Originally posted by lowpolymatt
er...once again...thats what I did... :)

what the hells going on!

i'll see if i can do it....

http://aidan-wilson.com/albums/aidan_test_lab/aw_catjump.gif

IT DOESNT WORK! Looks like you cant post pictures in here, maybe we might have to move the artwork into a seperate thread in the sketches forum or something ?

I'm confused!

[cartoonfox]

LOL LOL LOL, that gif thing is fu**ing funny man. i am literatley LMAS and ROFL ^-^

fuck, i dont think i've laughed so much in ages, thanks for the laugh ^-^


man, i feel good now! ^-^





peace

[Summer Pudding]

lowpolymatt: that asteroid's schweeet! So, you work at EA Chertsey? I did a three year stretch there m'self. What are you working on?

Molly: off to Austin eh? You lucky swine.

PS: Are we still on for the last Saturday of this month for another meet and greet?

[lowpolymatt]

Summer Pud - Yeah I'm back at the ole EA....I used to work for em when they were Bullfrog...and now I'm back again...

I'll let you take a guess as to what I've been working on ;)

It begins in H...and ends in arry Potter...

anyway...thanks for the comment on my riods..It's the first bit of concept art I've done in yonks...hopefully I'll make time to do more now...

[sketchling]

Lowpoly :

Very cool idea for a planet-factory :trippy: Only thing id say is that it'd be effective to have a subtle bit of blue/purple colour in the shadows to compliment all the orange/yellow to add interest and contrast... in a similar way to how your sun and planet have bits of subtle differing hue's of orange that bring them out. Especially the sun... you can nearly feel the heat from it! Lovely sence of light with the volumetric 'rays' too.

Thats me 2 cents worth :)
Its really wicked!:rock:

Well... I have little ground to stand on cause like a fool I left the cd with my contribution to the week on the floor of my room... so no uploads for me today :( Baka!

And suggestions for new theme's? Ill come up with a few later if nobody suggests anything. I like coming up with wierd ideas... :)

[lowpolymatt]

Thanks for the crit Sketchling. I tried a few varying colour themes for a bit of differentiation between the bright and dark sides....a bluey green looked good. I'll have a play and re-post them so you can all see what I mean.

As for themes...

Wel, I've been looking at labels on products and thought a cool subject could be :

'Handle with care' or 'Keep away from children' or 'Always wear protective clothing' or 'Fragile' would be a good theme...OR alternatively...just take a product with a warning label, then make a pic based on the warning label?

What do you all think? It's a little less structured and open enough that you could make anything from it...

Thoughts?

[sketchling]

:) Like that.

Id say you should use 'Warning : keep away from children' ... there are so many ways one can turn that into an interesting image... :) Mind gets to thinkin... hmmm.

:)

[lowpolymatt]

So are we all cool with that? Also....how do we move this ove to a forum where we can actually view the pics in the entries? Or should we keep it al here?

[cartoonfox]

wait... are we meeting the last saturday of this month, or the first saturday of next month? i'm confused ^-^

i will be posting this weeks drawing today... (i havent started yet! shame on me ^-^)





peace

[sketchling]

yo! First weekend of next month... the saturday I think.

[Dirty C]

Yup, first weekend. And apologies for being all pushy then not posting - I've had job interviews today (nothing interesting) and life's been a bit hectic. Will do better next time, I promise!! I'll post what I've been up to elsewhere shortly.

[cartoonfox]

its ok dirty_c, i forgive you ^-^

well, i just comferemd it with my mum (who is acts as my bank ^-^), i can, i repeat can go to the next meeting (june 5th i believe)!! so yay i get to meet all you cool people. so i hope you all turn up ^-^


i still havent maneged to do this weeks assignment, i am in the middle of my art exam, so bleh.
but next week i promise i will (as school will be finished by then)




peace

[sketchling]

This is me image... I went a bit experimental with emphasis on the 'mental' part with this one. Tried to go for a 'steel' gardenish feel with the wire-vines, a planet nearby for a planet-factory on which the two dwarves stand... using a 'ELV-3N 'lumberjack' salvage power-torch...thing. A bit flimsy, but next time I do only one... 4 briefs in one image is a mind-screw!

Took a bit of influence from Craig Mullins - LINK (http://www.goodbrush.com)

anyways, here it is :
http://sketchling.com/artwork/astro_d.jpg

I learned a lot doing it... though I dont like the image itself that much. NEXT!

[Matt Dixon]

Nice pics, chaps.

lowpolymatt - Is Ross Dearsley still at Cherstey?

[lowpolymatt]

Sketchling - I really like it. Looks like a lot of effort went into making all 4 ideas gel into 1 image. The rusty vinework is the part which seems to sing to me though. There's some reall nice sketchy work in there.

Nice one!

Matt Dixon- Yeah Ross is still here! Ya know him then? ..I'm sure I know your name from somewhere....Matt Dixon...Matt Dixon....it's evading me...but I know you from somewhere!!!

(You can't hide!!!)

[Matt Dixon]

lowpolymatt - I doubt Ross remembers me, but I admire his work very much indeed. Give him a big kissy from me if the opportunity arises. I met him a few times while working on XBox and GC skus of HP and the COS, which might explain why you've heard my name - was it accompanied by vigorous swearing, by any chance..? ;)

[lowpolymatt]

Willdo Matt, I'll give him your regards and all that...but the kissing...well ok but no tongues.

As for where I know you from...I have no idea....I just know the name from somewhere...no swearing or cursing attached..

[Molly]

Sketchling - nice pic, really like the angle you've approached, the people in the pic tho, are a little hard to pic out, well. just the guy in the foreground...

Will post my 'sketch' later, on this 'Derelect-Planet-Factory thingy, not too good with environments as I've said before, but it's an attempt...Crits and advice please.

Looking forward to Austin, tho, I'm more skint now than ever! It's worth man...:D

We all meeting up SOON!?!

Mollyx

[Summer Pudding]

I know Ross D. Not that well, but I've been a great admirer of his work for ages.

lowpolymatt: are you the Matt that used to hang with Neil Kaminski? I'm Pete Amachree. Remember me? DK II and Theme Park World.

sketch: that asteroid pic reminds me of some of the production art for The Fifth Element. The composition and colours are looking good.

see y'all next month

[Schlo-mo]

Hey all, sorry for my bout of absence.. Ive been going through my final exams and ive just come out of my last one yesterday! Now I'm back and eager to take part in your sessions etc

[cartoonfox]

Schlo-mo, cool! we are meeting the first weekend of june (which is saturday 5th)

should be cool. we'll all organise where we can meet up and go etc soon. like next week or so.




peace

[sketchling]

At the moment it looks like the nat hist museum...or at least thats what Mollyx and I have come up with so far. Very good for characters etc. I think that we should do several studies of stuff we find there and then try and come up with several characters/creatures based on the reference we gather during the day... Then, at the end of the day, we can look at them and crit/comment etc.

We would then have the month to develop one of them (or more) into a final piece.

This is very much open to suggestion, but I think its a good idea. Im going to check out the museum this weekend to look for things we could do and draw.

Ooohh... check this out : LINK (http://www.nhm.ac.uk/fbeasts/index.html?src=hp_ad)

Large, Hi rez SRI images of insects... thats got 'draw me' written all over it!!!!!

[Dirty C]

Sketchling - cool image, and the textures are great but I must admit, it's a bit confusing on the eye. Maybe some bigger bits of steel in the foreground to lead the eye towards the focal areas a bit better would have helped things along. I can't see your comment here, but that second guy's hard to see. Still, I've learned recently that frustrating yourself by trying to learn many things at once is a great way to do a great picture after the one you're finishing right now :P

[sketchling]

Yeah. I really dont like the image that much... definitly an experiment, but I did learn a hell of a lot on it... number one (seems silly. but...) Lighting... I NEVER set up a defined light source... in ANY of my images. Your drawings made that increasingly clear to me. I gotta do far more drawing from life.

:) But tis another step.
K

[lowpolymatt]

Summer Pud- Yes I am the Matt that used to hang around with Neil....How are you me ole buddy...what are you up to nowadays then?

Blimey....seems like ages....

PM me if you get chance so we can have a good old chinwag...

btw, Neil is up at Argonaut now, I have his email at work if you want to say hi...

[cartoonfox]

hmmm, did i miss it or has no one said what next wednesdays topic is.

i will do it this time ^-^



peace

[Dirty C]

I think you're right - nobody did.

And Kim - dude, I FEAR your abilities. If you learn everything I know, you will become more powerful than I can possibly imagine, and I'll be stuck here wht no clue. So stop it, go copy off someone else :P

And hey all, after a few phone calls today, I'm 90% certain I'll be working in London shortly!! After TWO YEARS of trying! So if it happens, I'm definitely keen to set up a regular weekly meet somewhere.

[cartoonfox]

well then someone make a topic ^-^

i think we should get an order of topic makers. so we all know when its our turn.

and dirty_c, gongrats. london is a great place, i wish i lived there ^_^

well i wouldnt be able to meet weekly, the coach costs too much. but i can allways meet up monthly, first weekend of each month.



peace

[Dirty C]

Right, well I'm out of it again this week, as I have to do a few pics in a hurry for the mage warfare thing. Oh, I guess I can lie and say this is my dwarf spaceman. When he's at home and not in space, and kinda angry :P : http://toeslikefingers.com/tmp/bv2b.jpg . I need to fix the shadows a little, and the grain on the wood and the light blast up the top of the door, but I'm tryin to rush through a few more, so I'll get to it shortly I promise :S

[sketchling]

:) Thanks dirty_c. All your skill are belong to me... mwahahaha.

By the way, lowpoly and I came up with 'keep away from children' as an idea... kinda open ended, but it could be lots a fun! Basically a character or environment based on a warning label... Im thinkin an environment like a town with evil, pen knife weilding 'friendly' children everywhere, a childs toy with a bite/edge (goo-goo the toy chainsaw or something...?!?!?!) or a crazed elmira-type psycho-babysitter.

the options are endless....

Oh, DirtyC... love that pic. I really like the shadow on the face. One thing though is that the wall behind the head kinda pulls my eye away from the face cause its quite light, which is a pity, cause the face is really emotive. Also some surface details on the handle might help to delineate the form a bit more.. like surface contours. Its a very cool image :) Not really a dwarf... not that mine was either! The point of the weekly thing is to get things going in our heads and make us paint/draw! Which we did. Nothing like group pressure to get one going :)

Love it. Keep em coming!!! :) K

[pixelherder]

lousy intarweb!

for some reason i lost my subscription to this thread, so when i i was checking for new messages in my subcribed threads nothing showed up. I just assumed things had got very quiet...looks like that wasnt the case. Probably just as well, i've done feck all this month.

p.s. does anyone have any ideas on how one translates ones limited art "skillz" into cold hard cash? LOTS of cold hard cash preferably.

[Dirty C]

Dude I have no idea. Everything I'm doing is for free right now :S

BUT GOOD NEWS! A month from now I'll be working in the Docklands! So as well as signing up for painting courses and god knows what else, I'll be keen to meet up with concept kids. Anyone else seriously keen for this? Kim, I know you are buddy.

[sketchling]

how well you know me dirty_C-san (bows respectfully):nod:

Glad to hear yer movin closer! :)

As for Pixel herder... um dunno mate. I imagine the more skilled you are, the more likley you will be paid well. what kinda stuff you like to draw/paint... gimme a web adress or somethin. Generally people do it for the love of it... but put a computer into the mix and people seem to be willing to pay people more. dunno how that happened?!??

:)K

[sketchling]

hmmm. Ill just go look at the link in yer signature shall I. :doh:

[cartoonfox]

i've been away for a bit.

just checking, are we stull up for the next meeting thing? (on 5th june (saturday))
as i can go this time, and i think it would be so cool to meet up with y'all ^-^




peace

[sketchling]

Im 90 percent sure ill be there. Natural hist museum is a good idea, though it can be quite hard to sit peacefully and draw, so we must have some idea of what we are doing there before we go in!

came up with some idea's with Mollyx, but will have to get more definite with the theme when time gets closer... so busy now I have not even managed the weekly thing. AND im working weekends at the mo.

Gonna be good when it happens. just gotta structure it if we want to get lots out of it.

[cartoonfox]

ok cool, as soon as its comfirmed that we're all (or most) going, i'll book my train.

we still have 2 weeks to sort it all out


looking forward to it, i havent been to london in ages ^-^ and i cant wait to meet you all



peace

[Molly]

Hey Girls 'n' Guys

HEre's a link to my 'Derelect Factory' no colour as yet, that will be approached in time. Sketchling - I'll email you a copy, like I said - you colour it in!!:D

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v57/Tekura/DerelectFactory_LoRes.jpg

As far as the next meet, I'm up for it. If there's gonna be more, then we could split into small groups and wonder round the Natural History Museum, till we find our preference for drawing. Then meet up at an appoointed time, and compare what reference we 've gathered. Then go find a cafe, and use our references and imaginations. to come up with a creature/demoned etc etc.
Is Sat June 5th still going ahead????

Mollyx

[Dirty C]

Is as far as I know.

[sketchling]

Well, Im in. Looks like I got two people to drag along :) Both workin at mpc.

will see ya all then! :)

P.S. weekly thing's kinda died (been scary-busy), but I was thinking it might be interesting to put together a list of wierd concept idea's people can go to when they want something to draw... throw in idea's and I will slowly compile a list and put it up on my webspace... then we can do stuff when we get a chance!

cheers y'all - K

[Summer Pudding]

It's 50/50 with me

[cartoonfox]

100% for me (as long as a few others can go ^-^)


peace

[sketchling]

:) 100% for me too.
So far the list is:

sketchling
molly
dirty_c
cartoon_fox
---------------
And two friends of mine:
jaime
jamie

Im sure we can get more, but thats enought for a cool day at any rate. I have Randomly PM's several people who are also in the UK... maybe I can rope them in too :)

-K

[cartoonfox]

ok, i'm gonna book my train ticket today or tommorrow, so i'm gonna need to know where to meet ect.
also, i'll charge my phone (i hardley ever use it ^-^) and give out my number sometime nearer the date, so you can all give me funny phone calls ^-^... or to phone me to see where i am if i'm late etc ^-^

would i need to buy like a subway day ticket or something? i'm guessing i'll be using the subway alot. and how much does this cost?


ok i'll probably think of a few other questions, its been ages since i went to london, so i'll ask when i think of the, later


looking forward to this, should be great



peace

[Dirty C]

Hey bro. Well, it depends where you're staying and how long you think you'l;l be in the city. You'll most likely want to get a zone 1 and 2 travel pass for the day or the weekend. The day is like £4.30 I think and the weekend's more like £6.

It looks like we'll be meeting somewhere centrally. I guess your train might go to Paddington. Here's some tube maps: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tube_map.shtml and that site is good for all sorts of tube type info.

[cartoonfox]

hey man, thanks for the info

i'm staying at my dads flat. he is in london most of the time, but he is here right now, so i'll be on my own. hope i dont get lost ^-^
all i know is its near a big hospital which is near a big subway station ^-^
i'll ask him today, he's gonna give my directions on how to get there from padington.


see you there ^-^


peace

[DavidCousens]

Damn, hadn't realised this was all going on! Won't be able to make this one as I work Saturdays and wouldn't have enough notice to book a holiday.

If there is going to be another one, could somebody please let me know asap? I'd love to meet up with some concept art people.

Just out of curiousity, how many people went to the last one?

[sketchling]

Hi!

We will most likley meet at the natural hist museum. its at the 'south Kensington' tube stop on the district, circle and I think Picadilly line as well. You probably arrive at paddington or Victoria... so a day-card (4, 50 I think :confused: ) should keep ya sorted for the day, though busses might be cheaper... though I dont know anything about routes.

Looking forward to it myself! Ill bring a whole lot of cool books on concept art and digital art... but I might need help carrying them for the day, or I cant bring them. they would be good inspiration I think. I have one book on 'digital character design and creation' by don seegmiller that fits what we have in mind for saturday too. several chapters dedicated to ways of making character design more effective and creative. If we go for the structured approach that is...

[sketchling]

hey dave!

There were 3 of us last time, but it was a start and I learned a lot anyways. this time it looks like 6 or more ppl. Its just a good oportunity to meet people who are also passionate about the same stuff. You learn so much its brilliant.

maybe see ya at the next one. there WILL be more :) Even if I have to go alone!!!!! :D

[cartoonfox]

hey man, i can help to carry some books for you, but obviously you'd have to wait untill i meet you in london ^-^. but yeah i'll be carying a backpack with just some pens/pencils and a sketchbook, so i'll have loads of room left over.

i'm gonna book my ticket tommorrow. cant wait


see you all soon ^-^




peace

[sketchling]

Cool :) Ill bring them then. They will be good inspiration when we sit down after the nat hist museum. Looking forward to it. :)
K

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

will defo be up for Saturday, tho I will be arriving late. I have a work conference all day friday (boring, tho good doodle time) and we're driving back Saturday, so Sketchling or dirty_c I will give you guys a bell.

Bee good to see you Cartoonfox, and any others who wish to come.

(Sketchling - check out the WIP thread - I've posted 2 pix of that Derelect factory, I gave the colouring a shot myself - your crit AND advice would be much appreciated)

Mollyx

[sketchling]

Molly :) Check out the DSG :) I put something up... first time in AGES iv had the time to do so!
See ya all Sat. -K

[cartoonfox]

cool, can't want ^-^ whats the weather like in london thease past days? over here its really humid.

well my mobile number is 07866 021 823 so gimme a call if i'm late or something ^-^

it takes about 2 hours to get to london. what time will we be meeting? (although i know molly will be late) and where? straight to the national history museum, or somewhere else first. i have to work out when to leave cardiff and what subway routes to take. i'll be dropping off at my dad's flat first just to get rid of my stuff (toothbrush etc) then off to meet you all.




peace

[Dirty C]

ok, well why don't we say we'll meet outside the south kensington tube? Kim me and Molly know what each other look like, so we'll wear something obvious. Molly, you've got a bikini, right?

[WillDrawForFood]

just wanted to say hi to all the uk'ers here. it would be great to pop by to one of these london hook-ups in the future. they sound like fun!

[Dirty C]

Hey WDFF. The plan is to do it the first weekend of every month. I'm just moving back into London as well, so we might try and do something more regularly during the week too. Can't let those texan bastards get ahead of us.

[cartoonfox]

WillDrawForFood, they sure do ^-^

if you can come meet us this weekend that would be great. if not try to some some other time. we will be meeting every first weekend of the month.

dirty_c, south kensington tube, huh? ok i'll remember that. just have to find it ^-^
i know what you all look like. so depending on the weather, i'll probably be whearing a blue beenie hat, jeens and green jacket or white t-shirt. i wanted to get a cartoonfox t-shirt, but i havent got round to getting one ^-^

see you all there



peace

[cartoonfox]

hmm, well i dont live in london, so i couldnt do a weekley thing. unless someone wanted to pay the £40 train ticket every week ^-^
but i might be able to do every other week or something, like twice a month.

if you all sort out a weekley thing, i'll just come along when i can, but making sure we allways come on the main "first weekend of every month" one.



peace

[Dirty C]

i think the plan would be to do the weekly thing on top of the monthly thing, not to eliminate it. If we do it weekly, I think it'd probably get a bit alcoholic anyway. At least, if I had any say in the matter.

[sketchling]

Yo crazy ppl :) Been sending my crazy idea's into the DSG topics list, so I thought id paste em in here if anyones bored and needs somehting silly to draw:

Here goes!

Teenage Orc in Fathers Armour
An Insectoid Senator
Planetside Anti-Spacecruiser Gun Emplacement
A Natural History Museum - in 4000ad (many aliens found)
A Transport Museum in 4000ad
Anti-Tank Personal Armour
Asteroid Command Post
USPS (United Space Parcel Service) Courier Vehicle.
4000ad trabant equivalent...
The Grithk Monument on Ganymede
Silicon-based plant lifeform
A one-stop asteroid 'freeze-fusion fuel and burger' joint.
A barfly in a floating city.
A rickety taxi in a sky-city.
Fnibble the warrior sloth.
A pfhnibbit... heavily armed.
A winged archer
A Secret Service Spy-Ferret

[pixelherder]

i havent had a lot to contribute to this forum, due to a combination of geographical isolation and being hassled by "The Man"...

...BUT i am cheerleading enthusiastically from the sidelines (with pom-poms and everything), and hope to one day join in the fun.

Until then though, hope everyone enjoys themselves

p.s. has anyone had a go at starting a UK specific thread in the daily sketchbooks/work in progress threads? It'd be nice to have everyones stuff in one place.

[sketchling]

hmmm.. wrote this in the wrong forum... so here it is again...
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hmmm... 10am does sound rather ambitious doesnt it... maybe 11. otherwise im likley not to make it either!!!

Anyways! See ya then. EVERYONE sa yay or nay, so we know everyone knows. Cartoonfox - my mobile is 07905 275 615 if ya need a contact num. Ill be the nutty guy with the curly hair...
K

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[cartoonfox]

ok cool, 11 at south kensington tube station thingy ^-^

i need to get there earlyer to drop of some stuff at my dad's flat and then go and buy a new sketchbook ^-^
i know i know i shouldn't have left it so late, but bleh ^-^
so, can anyone recomend a good art store?



peace

[Summer Pudding]

Is there any chance we could have the next one on a Sunday?

There's no way I can make Saturdays, as my wife is at work, and I have the kids.

[sketchling]

I dont see why not. We can just plan it that way.
K

[sketchling]

EVERYONE!
Here are some the pics from saturday. (starting page 2... the rest are from my previous visit to the nat hist museum.)
PICS LINK (http://www.sketchling.com/photos/ca_ref/index.htm)

Just realised they are not all there... will bring the rest tommorrow.

If anyone wants a larger version of one of these pics, most of em are at 1600x1200 and I can upload them or send em if ya really want em.

Hope the reference helps ppl :)
K

[Dirty C]

Hey, I have Jeremy Beadle hand!

[sketchling]

and you are a nutter. Certified.

[Dirty C]

Heh, thanks.

And if you see Jaime, tell him EGGS!!!

[sketchling]

Here's my latest WIP. Any crits etc VERY welcome.
http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/wip/silas_wip_s.jpg

Still have teeth to add, and bits to do. You can see a bit of the wale ref being used there :)

[cartoonfox]

hey sketchlinig, thats an awesome desin you've got going. i like it ^-^

i'll see if i can get some sketches going from your ref photos




peace

[pixelherder]

Originally posted by sketchling
EVERYONE!
Here are some the pics from saturday. (starting page 2... the rest are from my previous visit to the nat hist museum.)
PICS LINK (http://www.sketchling.com/photos/ca_ref/index.htm)



some great photos there - time permitting i'll do something with them too

[Molly]

Hey Sketchling - those are great photos! Sorry I couldn't make Saturday...
I shall try an come up with something too, need to keep drawing!

Mollyx

[Summer Pudding]

Is Sunday ok for everyone else?

[cartoonfox]

sunday is fine for me.

sunday 4th july. looking forward to it




peace

[Summer Pudding]

nice one

Kew Gardens has shitloads of amazing plants. The kind of freaky things you only see in natural history programmes. Could be a chance to get some incredible photos.

any thoughts?

[Dirty C]

Sounds cool, yeah.

[sketchling]

RIGHT everyone...
We'v had the first meeting of the month... now what we gonna do about it? I have more photo's.. dunno why they did not all go up, but they will!

And the topic/task for the month.. a character.

You can either just draw a character based on one or more of the photographs I posted or you took... OR Take it further:
This stuff is out of don seegmillers 'digital character design and painting' - a really interesting book.

Things to think about when designing a character:

1) Create the characters history
where is he/she from and what was his/her youth like?
Where is he living now and why? - house/condo/hole
Where would he want to live? - mansion/hovel/luxury hole

2)Characters every day environment:
Space? Underwater? Underground? Airborne?

3)Characters Personality
whats the characters name?
was the character born, created or hatched
obsessivly neat? a slob?
Educated... dumb?
Is he/she shy/bold, sneaky/gullible, religious, romantic?
What are the characters phobia's - shit scared of slugs?

4) Physical Look - What would he need to look like to fit with1-3?
Thin and gangly? Massivly built? Fat and happy?
Is he made of flesh/rock/metal/plant etc?
Male/female/unsure?
Skin/fur/feathers/rock/other?
What kind of facial features does he have?
Fangs/200 teeth/can he speak?
Does he lurch, walk slowly/fast, is he dignified?

Anyways, these are a few of the questions Don writes down and answers when he makes a character... I Suggest when we make a character we should try do a bit of that too... make tha characters more convincing. Also makes it possible to add the detail, cause you know whats needed if you can answer these and any other questions you come up with.

Right now all I got is 'fnibble the warrior sloth'...

Happy sketching!!!

[cartoonfox]

hey thats some neat advice. very helpfull. that don seegmiller is one cool guy ^-^

i'll see what i can come up with. i'll try to start it today



peace

[pixelherder]

came across this link, LONDON COMIC JAM (http://www.eccentrix.com/members/lcj/), over on the DRAWING BOARD FORUMS (http://www.sketchbooksessions.com/shanesboard/) , a meet up for london comics types. Might be worth getting in touch and seeing if they'd like anyone else tagging along?

[Dirty C]

Check the location, bud: http://www.checkoutarestaurant.com/profile.cfm?pid=1196

London Ontario :)

[pixelherder]

Originally posted by dirty_c
Check the location, bud: http://www.checkoutarestaurant.com/profile.cfm?pid=1196

London Ontario :)

yeah...yeah, sure...erm...I knew that! Me and my wacky geographically awry sense of humour!

*feck*

[sketchling]

Bugger. That sounded so good too... :(

[Molly]

...I'm up for Sunday...Kew Gardens sounds cool too....

Mollyx

[Dirty C]

Isn't Austin this weekend?? You not going anymore?

Oh, and if anyone's keen to meet this week, let me know. I'm in London full time now (baby yeah haha). Actually on holiday for two weeks as well, leading up to Glasontbury.

[clayton]

Hi,

How would you guys fill about a America possibly joining you some time in august?

I will be touristing in the U.K and Ireland by myself this summer. I'm actually leaving
for dublin on 19th (tomorrow) but will not arrive in london Intel early august and
would like to make some friends and shear what abilities I have acquired.

I'm not new to the forum, have been hear for some time just haven't posted up Intel now.


I have another question I'm bring my digital camera and wondering if there is some place in the UK where I can rent a computer not like a internet cafe but more like a place where I can have full accuses to the computer so I can archive my photos by burning them on to CD and so fourth. we have a chain of store hear called Kinkos
have you hard of them (not sheer if there internally)? or maybe you know of a similar place?

-thanks

[cartoonfox]

hey man, welcome to the forums (even if you've been here a while ^-^)


yeah man, it'd be cool if you could join us. the whole group will be meeting next on sunday 4th july, and then sunday 1st august. so you can meet us all then.

but inbetween, well i dont live in london, so i cant say ^-^
but if your ever in cardiff (or near) (its in south wales) then i'd surley show you around and chill and draw with you ^-^.... but i doubt you will go to cardiff, its pretty small and stuff ^-^

but if you do, lemme know ^-^


peace man

[Dirty C]

Course you're welcome. To start with, I'm from New Zealand, Molly's a New Zealander in denial (:P), Sketchling's from South Africa, Cartoon Fox is Welsh, and one of the other guys we've been meeting up with is Spanish! So we're not exactly worried about foreigners haha.

Unfortunately, I know Kinko's, and there isn't much like that here. Not that I know of, anyhow. Anybody else know of somewhere?

[cartoonfox]

hey, i'm half welsh, half chilean ^-^


well, i think kodak can download your pics to a cd for like a fiver or something... i think.


peace

[sketchling]

Yo everyone! This forum has been WAY to quiet ;) How's everyone doing and whats everyone been up to? Cant say iv done much in the character design side of things :( But hey. Iv been doing environments. : http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/bridge_sketch.jpg
A bit of a rough one... not much time at the mo, but I thought id put it up to prod everyone into putting stuff up too!

:) K
:chug:

[Dirty C]

I've really just been fleshing out a few ideas. Learning more about how to use Painter's tools in the process:

checkit (http://toeslikefingers.com/gallery/untitled02.jpg)

And very nice env, dude. One question: where are the ropes going? are they intended to be relatively parallel to the ground and coming towards the camera? Or more 'flat' to the camera and going up somewhere? I ask because they're getting wider as they go up, which looks like they're coming towards us, but not getting wide enough to really pull it off. And if they're suspension cables from above, I think some of them should be getting narrower too, to show that they're supporting it from all sides.

[sketchling]

hey cool!! Youv been busy :)
A comment if I may :D
The area.. think it was 2 on your 12321 scale thing of values should be more saturated I think... I just think a couple of brushes with a 'saturate' brush in those area's could will liven the skin tones a bit :)

Really like the way you put that face in the background. :)

As for the cables in that image... This was the first concept sketch...
http://www.sketchling.com/artwork/mine_thumb.jpg

[Dirty C]

yeah, that does explain it. More interesting perspective too.

Ok, here's a version slightly modified: hyar (http://toeslikefingers.com/tmp/untitled02a.jpg)

[sketchling]

Hey... I really like that. Gives plenty life to it :) And yeah... you DONT wanna end up as a runner. You got skills man, dont doubt it. :)

[Molly]

Hey Fellas,

Are we having a sketch group meeting soon???

Got back from Austin 5.30am, so tired, so happy, so many pro's... So much to talk about...

Mollyx

[Summer Pudding]

Has anyone heard anything about the next CA meet?

Let it be London...let it be London...

[cartoonfox]

well i'm up for the next meeting. i've been busy with lots of things latley, and havent had too much time for drawing. so this can help boost me back into a regular thing again ^-^

i think it will be sunday 4th july (so summer pudding can come)



so who else is coming?




peace

[sketchling]

as in the next HUGE amsterdam/austin type meeting? I think there was a rumour about havin it in prague

local meets are london though :)

[Summer Pudding]

yeah, I meant the next Austin/Amsterdam gig. It'll be great meeting you guys on the 4th. God, I hope you're not a bunch of wankers!
heh heh

:blah:

[cartoonfox]

lol stupid hacker, i lost all my thread subscriptions.


heheh, nah i dont think we're all wankers ^-^

...but dirty_c does have this weird obsession with eggs, so watch out ^-^

see you all on the 4th



peace

[Alex Kaiser]

Hello,

I haven't posted much but I'd be up for a meeting, but I can't figure out where you guys are meeting on the thread (kew gardens?) I'm up in Oxford, so it's pretty cheap to get down to london with the Oxford tube. Just wondering where/what time you are meeting on the 4th.

There is a flamingo behind you.

-Alex.

[Dirty C]

Hm. I guess we might as well meet at Kew Gardens. If only because it will help Cartoonfox's continuing education in navigating the tube :P We'll sort out directions later on. I've never been, but heard it's really good and big, so we might have to make this one a little bit longer than the last one - if it's outside and sunny, maybe pick a few places to stop for an hour or so and draw specific things.

And Molly, you have to tell us everything they said. I've just come back from five days of hedonism at Glastonbury, which was absolutely wicked. We definitely need to get you into a regular thing, if you're not already. If people aren't drawing or working on something, Sketchling's project work is a really great way to explore stuff. And if you're drawing the same thing over and over, which so many of us are guilty of, then it's a great way to break out of that and push yourself.

And since I've been gone, the board seems to have come up with a disgusting default theme. What's going on there??

[Dirty C]

Hey cool! Just thought I'd come here and brag. Just finished going through my mail, and the competition for the back cover of a comic thingy I entered I won! Woohoo! Anyway, here's the pic that won. Yes, Kim, I won it by using dramatic light sources :P

http://toeslikefingers.com/gallery/arcana.jpg

[Summer Pudding]

What time's good for y'all?

11am outside the station? I'll probably be wearing a cowboy shirt and pinstripe trousers.

[cartoonfox]

i cant remember what time we met last time, but 11 am sounds good to me.

so will we be meeting at kew gardens or another place first?
if kew gardens, then i might be a little late, as i'll have to grab something to eat as soon as i arrive in london, i get hungry alot! ^-^

yeah last time i didnt do any drawing at all ^-^ so this time round if we could sit down to draw for a few hours, that would be good ^-^



peace

[Summer Pudding]

Ooooh dear. I've just had a look on the website. There's an admission fee of £8.50! If any of you are strapped for cash, I guess we can relocate.

Shitting fuck it!

http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/visitor/priceskew.html

Here's the main site

http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/

[Molly]

Hello Fellas,

So a definate meet this Sunday 4th July 11.00am Kew Gardens Station?
(tho, £8.50 to get in?...)

(draw, draw, draw)

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

yay, molly is coming this time ^-^
just dont break your back again ^-^ hehe j/k
you'll have to tell us all about austin, to all us us poor folk that couldnt go ^-^


i dont mind the £8.50 fee, and yeah, i'll try my best to get a kew gardens about 11 am (though 'fun' on the tube and eating may slow me down a bit ^-^. i'll have my phone just incase)



peace

[Molly]

Cartoooon!
Dude, wots ur mobile no? mines 07932-907-779...

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

molllyyyyyyyy ^-^

mine is 07866 021 823

i dont use it much, but i'll bring it to london incase i get lost ^-^


peace

[Molly]

COOLIO!
So, a definate for Sunday lads?

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

^-^ well i'm definatley going

see you all then



peace

[Summer Pudding]

hell yeah!

see you there

[Hyver]

Hey guys sorry to invade this place like this... I just want to inform those who don't know yet: miniworkshop in belgium: 13-14-15th of august. Read all about it via the link in my sig if you're at all interested... btw i've seen ads for roundtrips from/to london for a mere 39euro ;)

cheers!

[cartoonfox]

hey everyone, just checking your all going tommorrow ^-^

and also, how do you get to kew gardens from padington? ^-^




peace

[Dirty C]

go here: http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/index.htm and click on journey planner. put in paddington and kew gardens (change destination type to 'place of interest' and when it gives you the options, just take the default 'kew gardens' option).

I'll be there - hopefully should be on time...

[cartoonfox]

hey thanks man

i'll get at kew gardens station at about 10:18. so will some of you be meeting there, or actually at kew gardens, cos i havent a clue where to go once i get off the tube ^-^
according to the directions thing, its about a 10 minute walk from the station.

i think i remember molly saying she'd be at the station. if so, she can take me there ^-^



peace

[cartoonfox]

woops, just realised i chose a trip that left before i even arrive in london ^-^

ok, i'm gonna arrive at kew gardens station at 10:48 so i should arrive at kew gardens at about 10:58

anyone who wants to meet me at kew gardens station, let me know.
or you could phone me tommorrow on 07866 021 823


see you all then



peace

[Dirty C]

We're gonna meet at the kew garden station, not the actual gardens. Easiest way, cause the gardens are apparently gigantic. So just hang out there. Everything going well, i should be there at about 11. My number's 077 9360 6466. Give me a shout if nobody has turned up.

[cartoonfox]

k i'm back ^-^

had fun seeing you again (and meeting molly and summer pud ^-^)

i've updated my sketchbook thread ("well its about time" ^-^) so go check it out noooww ^-^

cant wait till the next one, though i think we should do more sitting and drawing than walking next time ^-^




peace

[cartoonfox]

hi, just to let you all know, that mini workshop in belgium ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25764 ) that molly mentioned today, anyone who wants to go kinda needs to comfirm by friday. i want to go, but dont want to be the only uk'er there ^-^. so if any of you are gonna go, lemme know so i can comfirm too.

i think its 60 euros (£40) for everything (accomadation, life models, etc etc) and then however much extra for the flights, shouldnt be too much and food as well ^-^




peace

[Summer Pudding]

It was great meeting you guys. Next time I'll drag a couple of my dullard colleages along.

dirty_c: thanks for the eggs

[Molly]

Hey Cartoonfox, I checked your sketch thread, nice one, keep posting OK? I wanna see where those creatures of yours are gonna go...
Wont be going to the Belgium WS luv, money low after Austin...soz man...Mx

Summer Pudding - nice to meet you too (finally) and yeah, bring whoever along next time. Maybe we can get some more UK peeps from this forum to come along too. I will post that sketch I did of You and Kim in Kew, and you can reply with "Yeah man thats sooo cool, your so awesome, I love your style, oh man, post some more... blah blah blah..." :blah:


Mollyx

[Dirty C]

Lovely to see you all. Kim got his camera back after leaving it on the tube. good eyes molly, coulda been a fast buck for some desperate busker..

"Oooooh, life. Is Bigger. It's Bigger than you, and you are not me."

There's something in that for all of us, I think.

[sketchling]

ah. true true. All wise words should be followed with 'twangtwangtttttttttttttttwangytwang" :nopity:

[koshime]

Dang. I missed the local meet.
I actually live in North London, Southgate area on the Picadilly line but have to work up north in the midlands on most weekedays.

What i recommend is a visit to Tate Britain: Hopper is showcasing there till september.

Very interesting look at the dude that made everyday still life an inspiration for movies.
You do have to pay an admission fee though :jump1:

If you guys want to meet up, my mobile is 07786 386 808

[Molly]

Koshime - thanx for stopping by...

Visiting the Hopper exhibition would be a cool idea, I've been wanting to go for some time, just havent got round to it. Payment to get in is round £9.00, not too bad, worth it tho....

Sketchling, Dirty_C, Summer Pud, Cartoon - what you think?...

...Lets get some more UK'ers along yeah? So if you see some online, drop em a PM... (Schlo-mo, LowPolyMatt, Matt Dixon etc etc)

Mollyx

[Dirty C]

Well, the priority for me for next time is a photoshop/painter tips and tricks session, preferably watching a couple of the colourist-type pros (senors sketch y pud) run through their typical workflow, and hopefully not arguing so much that we don't learn anything :) I'm not quite sure what the best venue is, though. I'll see if the gf minds us using my place, cause it's pretty central.

Does that still sound like a plan to everyone? Was thinking maybe we could visit the exhibition on a weeknight. Only my thoughts, so don't get the idea I'm laying down the law or anything :) Just whatever works for everyone and they're keen to do.

[troymcoy]

I might come down to one of these things sometime...
how many of you usually go?

[koshime]

What would be useful is if some of us have some laptops + wacoms handy perhaps for some photoshop/painter/OC sessions. Only thing is we woudl need a central place in london that allows for folk to meet up, plug in and fire up their laptops.

Was thinking of investing in one (ala photoshop monster) later this month.
On that note, there is the debate of a Mac vs power notebook. Personally, I am not too partial to the mac OS, but from a specification adn resolution point of view, Mac Powerbooks are pretty high on design, function and more importantly photoshop-ability...

p/s Incidentally, for those interested in the MA courses/ Industrial Design in London, I'm not sure if Royal College of Arts London is still having its MA exhibition going. (normally good mainly for the transport and design) I know the Central Saint Martins exhibition is finisihed/.virtually finished (good for jewerly, fashion and textiles, some interesting pieces on show) as most fok have broken up for the term last week

[Molly]

Dirty_C - if ur GF dont mind, ur place seems cool. And the exhibition during the week? - Fair enough, there would actually be less people than if we went on the weekend...
Troy - so far, we've had, 4 meetings? (back me up guys) and on Sunday there was 5 of us. We'd all like more people to turn up, it's getting the UK'ers to look in this thread. Come down man, serious, we would like to meet you...
Koshime - as Dirty_C said, if his gf dont mind, we could all bowl round his place. Its pretty central. Nrth London? I think...

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

hey i'm cool with going to dirty_c's house, as long as he has a decent supply of 7-up in the fridge ^-^

looking forward to it


peace

[sketchling]

Hi!

Yeah, a laptop would be a great idea... I can bring a wacom :) Would bring my pc too... but I need a car... which I dont have.

number of meetings... !st was at pub, 3 of us, second was at nat hist museum, with 5 people. and this one was at kew... with 5 people. Next one will be more people!!!! Its great - definitly worth coming to!

Koshime : Glad to have ya in the UK chapter forum!
troymcoy : Ditto. Trust me man, its worth coming just to talk to people and get inspired. try it, and if we suck, return to sender.

hmmm... must get sketching.
K

P.S. If anyone wants to meet to sketch more often... im right there with ya. K

[Dirty C]

It's definitely worth it. People have different combinations of skills: some are colour dudes, some are anatomy freaks like me, some are combinations, and some have great ideas for how to free up your imagination. There's no hero worship and everyone's free to argue a point. And everyone has something to learn.

In some ways, it's helpful to just talk about this stuff, cause hardly any of us encounter people in our daily lives who know what we're on about. And hav ing three or four people there to try different ways of explaining something really helps it sink in.

[cartoonfox]

yep, its 100% worth it.
i have to get up at 6 am, pay £40+ and sit next to some sweaty guy from newport for 2-3 hours to go every month, but i do ^-^

next to the amsterdam workshop, its the most insperational thing for me. nothing beats seeing other people sketching, seeing how they aproch things. think things looks go on here? scanners do these guys no justice ^-^ seeing sketches in real life is so awesome.

and you can learn so much from each other too. and like dirty_c said, theres no "master & apprentice" type stuff, everyone is here to just hang out and draw ^-^


everyone come along for the next one, come crash dirty's house ^-^ hehe j/k



peace

[koshime]

Wish I knew bout local CA chapters. been meaning to start up some local workshops of sorts.

My main bulk of work is ballpoint pens/Marker renders + pens or OC/photoshop. Hoping to expand on traditional arts/anatomy and matte painting techniques

I'm out of town till 20th July. So hopefully you guys will ahve a good bash in the mean time.

I'm free this Friday 9th if anyone is meeting up/free prior to flyign off to malaysia for 10 days. Hope to meet you guys all soon.

[Dirty C]

I checked with the gf and it's cool if we use my place. So something like 12 o'clock on the first sunday next month. I'll give you address details then.

[cartoonfox]

awesome, cant wait.

just make sure you have a decent supply of 7-up ^-^




peace

[Dirty C]

No 7-Up and no leeks. Just eggs.

[cartoonfox]

haha leeks ^-^

well no worries, i'll bring my own ^-^
plus i'll bring all my inks and gouache and pens etc etc. and any other junk i can find ^-^




peace

[koshime]

I'm Good for enviromental/Architectural and Mecha designs

[Dirty C]

Excellent. Sketchling and Summer Pud are good on environments, but nobody's really a mech man. Except if Jaime shows up, that is.

[koshime]

Well - as you know, I work at the George Eliot, Nuneaton & bedworth area, south of Linconshire. Just takea train man. go to birmingham, then 1.5 horus by train direct to London

IT would be cool to see how other dudes do their enviroments

[Molly]

Hey guys,

Thought I'd share this you all. As some you may know, there was a Grand Prix promotional thing in London yesterday, where they were racing F1 cars round London. 1/4 million ppl turned up to catch a glimpes of the cars racing by. Fortunately, my bf was photographing for the Met, and got some cool pics.
Drivers were: David Colthard, Nigel Mansell, Jensin Button, and Juan Pablo Montoya - tho I dont think he was driving...

check frame 032 - Cartoonfox looks like Juan Pablo Montoya!

http://217.31.133.100/library/grandprix_cd282_tps/default.htm

Mollyx

[cartoonfox]

haha, lol you reckon? i guess i can see some resemblence, if i squint hard enough ^-^

cool pics, i like the smoke ones



peace

[cartoonfox]

hey all, seen this yet? http://www.conceptart.org/forums/announcement.php?f=58
i think it has just been posted now.

well i am devo thinking about it. just 40 people sounds like a nice number, wont be crouded at all. and just andrew and marco, so no missing 'shows' ^-^

just thought i'd run this by you all, i'm gonna see if i can afford it, though 90euros isnt too bad at all.



peace

[Dirty C]

yeah, taht's what i was missing - and kingda expecting - in amsterdam. Dunno if I can really afford to go to Germany, though. Damn, that sounds really excellent, too...

[cartoonfox]

well try your best to go ^-^ i'm sure it'll be realy cool.

90euros is £60
and you can get a return flight for about £175 (i'm sure you can get cheaper, but i havent looked hard enough)
and the hostel that marco mentioned is about £31 for 3 nights, in a 8 beed room.


if you can go, then that would be cool. i'll even help you robb a bank ^-^



peace

[cartoonfox]

ok check this out

if you fly from luton on the 19th and leave 24th, it comes to a total of £30!!!!!!!! (i chose the cheapest times

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/cartoonfox/untitled.jpg

so can you go now ^-^




peace

[koshime]

Err Luton.
Man, that area is like a road traffic accident zone on the M1.

I used to work at Luton & Dunstable Hosp A&E for 4 months.
But that certainly takes the mick £30 for that duration. Its cheaper than an average trip from Work to N London!! :bash:

What does one do in germany from 19th-24th btw? *grin*

[cartoonfox]

cant you take a train to luton? if so thats what i'll be doing, otherwise i'll have to go from bristol.

what does one do in germany from 19th to 24th?.... draw draw draw thats what ^-^



peace

[koshime]

train.. maybe.
heh hehe. maybe see you there

[cartoonfox]

yeah man, hope you can make it. remember theres only about 40 places though... ^-^


are you gonna come over for the next london meeting too? we're gonna chill at dirty_c's house ^-^




peace

[koshime]

I'm actually not too cocnerend abtou goign to Berlin. nice to eb abel to but not essential.
I feel teh regular london meets woudl be far more beneficial from a learnign standpoint and a way of improving ones art from a personal standpoint.

I wont be back till July 20th.
So depends when you guys hold the meeting next..

Is dirty C's place drivable to?? Which region is it in. central lon or greater lon

[cartoonfox]

ok, well if you do decide to go, lemme know. i think it'll be great to see andrew and marco again. and learn from them.


we meet the first sunday of the month. so the next one is 1st august.

yeah dirty_c checked with his g/f, its ok. i think he lives in north london. not sure where though. he'll give the address nearer the time.


looking forward to meeting you where ever ^-^



peace

[Dirty C]

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531289&y=183709&z=0&sv=n1+0ht&st=2&pc=n1+0ht&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

You can probably park round here. And the date will be Sunday the 1st of August.

[acuna_read]

Loads of people in here and you all wonder round where I vaguely know.

When/will there be another meet up in town (ie London)? Read through the first page then skipped to the last and im chasing up a job in wardour street too, though its for a runner! :zzz:

P.S. kids dont drop out of college you get stuck with limited job prospects, oh well better save up to go back in a few years. in the mean time I can visit loads of galleries and look at all the books and design mags i cant afford during lunch! :clapping1

P.S.S. If anyone knows of jobs going for an A-level trained student (and an A&D foundation course drop-out, due to many reasons that have now been resolved) within a creative company of any sort then give me a shout (PM). Dont know whether im allowed to do that but just did.

P.S.S.S. Just read properly and found out the meeting thing, cant it be nearer Eltham/ j/k lol!

another P.S. If its mechanical and makes sense in terms of physics i draw it, in particular vehicles (cars and motorbikes). I'll get some pics up but have recently got into life drawing and natural things, as of last Sept with a Saturday class.

Sorry for wittering on, and have fun!

[cartoonfox]

hi there, welcome to the forums ^-^


yep, there surely is another meet up. we meet every first sunday of the month, in a chosen place in london. we choose where nearer the date.
so the next meet is 1st august, from 11am to about 4/5pm (though might be longer next time)

so far we have been to the pub, a museum (cant remember the name, but it was big ^-^) and last one was at kew gardens.

so this 4th one we're gonna go chill at dirty_c's house (he'll give the address nearer the date) and we're just gonna draw all day (maybe even a mini thunderdome) with all sorts of styles and things going on, including a photoshop tutorial/battle between sketchling and summer pudding. the whole thing should be awesome.

it'd be cool if you could come along (although if we get alot of people this time, dirty_c might want to change his mind ^-^ dunno how big his house is ^-^)
so just keep your eye on this thread (maybe subscrive to it) and then about a week before 1st august, we'll all go crazy and sort things out like address, times, etc etc



peace

[Dirty C]

Yeah, my place is actually really small, so hopefully the weather's good and we're not all stuck inside. The number of attendees fluctuates closer to the date normally, so we'll take a look at it on the week. I don't imagine it'll be a problem.

Oh, and I meant to say: I'm going to a drop-in life drawing class tonight, from 7-9. It's right by the angel tube station and it's a fiver. Anyone who wants to tag along, gimme a shout or just show up even. More info here: http://www.candidarts.com/candid_arts_trust.htm (click on 'classes')

[acuna_read]

mmmmmmmmmm. Lunch break, wait no i still dont work. :ahha:

Anyway that looks good, does anyone know of any life drawing classes like that but perhaps in Lewisham/Camberwell/Deptford/Greenwich? Or further out into somewhere like Dartford/Bexleyheath etc? (or Bromley)

Otherwise ill have to trek up there in a few weeks, thanks for the link!

Anybody ever thought bout asking one of the galleries if they have a large area that you can use? If theres a few, say maybe 15+ then they may help, remember theyre all people and interested in art as well. If not go and sit in the Tate Modern. :smirk:

[Dirty C]

There's always the park :)

And Molly's in Deptford as well, so she'd probably be keen to find one with you (though I've conned her into coming up to Angel anyhow).

My gf works in Deptford and seems to think it's got a great artistic community. Funny that nobody seems to be able to find it..

[Molly]

Acuna, glad u could join us!

Soz, about the Lion King ref, I couldnt help myself..... ^_^
Look forward to seeing some o' your work dude. Post asap man!

anyhoo, yep as dirty_c says I live in Deptford, not far from you at all, and yer right dirty_c, I cant find the Arty farty community here, very alusive them art ppl...hmm....As far as finding a life drawing class, theres the Goldsmiths in Deptford, nearer New Cross, but I need to check their website out. Theres also the Lewisham College along Deptford Broadway, by the bridge, but I'm not sure about there either (Im so rubbish) I wil find out, as its closets to me...

Welcome again acuna_red, look forward to meeting you in person!

Mollyx

[acuna_read]

Now you know i'm a complete weirdo/computer geek/nerd/ general layabout/bum, being able to post to this sooooo quickly.

I do attend life-drawing classes in Greenwich (Royal Hill), forgot the school name but its next to the Cop shop/Police station and is part of the Greenwich Community College. But that only runs on Saturdays during term time so............ :nopity:

My work lol :googley: I have a very good imagination but currently struggle to put it onto paper. Oh well its getting better!

Funny you should say acuna_red, as my hairs ginger and long for a lad (shoulder length). I'll get some car sketches up cause I can do those well(ish) :jump2:

ciao :beam:

[Molly]

HAHA

acuna - we're all weirdos, nerds, computer geeks, layabouts, tho I'm at work surfing wen i should be workin....^_^


Dude, these Saturday classes - can you pop along and join in? Or do you have to apply in advance? let me now ...^_^

Mollyx

[acuna_read]

I really need to get out more or do something. :arcfreak: oh well!

Anyway, its a pay up front thingy and costs a fair bit (too much IMO) but the classes are ok (dont remember the price either, and I had discount last year which i wont this). Greenwich CC (http://www.gcc.ac.uk/pls/hot_sys/aff_page_pls_user_content?a=140703&ccd=home)
Heres stuff but the site is shockingly appauling and the course search feature barely works, better off phoning em up. I might give Lewisham a go this year though, had an old (A-level) teacher go there and he seemed to like it.

Just checked out Camberwell and they do some classes, I think hteyre open to general public. Have to phone up for costs though as it doesnt mention any
short courses (http://www.arts.ac.uk/shortcourses/shortcourses.htm)
These are probably good, but gonna be steep in price.

Just checked CSM and they do some drawing classes that are £250 for 25 hours spread over 10 weeks. But thats CSM, theyre must be cheaper?

Off to eat some Lemons!

[Alex Kaiser]

Does anyone want to meet up before august 1st? (I'm going to be going down to London at some point) As I'm probably not going to be able to meet up on the 1st, one of my friends has a 21st birthday on july 30th in derby which I'm possibly going to be getting quite drunk at.... So if anyone is around London at anypoint between now and then, do you want to meet up?

-Alex.

[Dirty C]

Several of us are here full time. Let us know when you're down and maybe we'll sort something out.

[acuna_read]

Just got home (half hour or so) and now watching racing on the telly (WSBK) and decided to flick through, ive got a great idea and was using the "drahn time 8" picture as reference, the bird standing up against a shed. I'll post that tomoz morn(today) and hopefully you can give some tips/ideas/snyde remarks.

I was also reading through the beggining of this thread and saw bits about getting more members and also other things like............cheap equipment. So heres a couple of ideas, only a few drinks so should be fully coherent :beer:

1) get more people, I dont know how to do it but get more, was looking at the pictures of the Nat History meet and saw cartoonfox is built like a brick shit-house (note to self: dont wind cartoonfox up) :afro2: Anyway, perhaps some posters around town? Theres also another way of doing it, *ahem* stencil art. Start putting them up in places like the London Graphics centre, up round Tott Court Road book-shops (Magma is a good shop) outside the tate etc etc.

2) Someone who knows a good supply shop/wholesalers who can offer a good discount so all of us (and anyone who visits London from around the world) can get reasonable priced supplies. If anyone from other countries read this perhaps doing all over the world would be good? Like a secret code (thats the drink talking :partyguy: )

I'll now fall asleep in a stuper, and no i cant spell either! :waves:

[pixelherder]

not being handily located "dahhn sahhffff", i'm looking into some life-drawing classes up here in nottingham. No joy so-far, but i know a few people who might be interested so i'd even consider starting one up myself. The only question would be how.

Anyone got any ideas is this area - venue hire etc. I'd be particularly interested in suggestions on going about getting models without getting slapped/punched/arrested.

aidan

[cartoonfox]

was looking at the pictures of the Nat History meet and saw cartoonfox is built like a brick shit-house (note to self: dont wind cartoonfox up) :afro2:


lol, might be the heat today (damn its hot) but what does "built like a brick shit-house" meen? ^-^

must be a geezahh thing ^-^



peace

[acuna_read]

It means your well built, or appear to be. I'm usre your a perfectly nice person though, your drawings are good either way ;)

erm, sure this has been worn out but does anyone know of a good free image hosting site, photobucket is down, and I hear has lots of problems. I know nothing bout building web pages for now so that will have to wait, in the mean time im looking to post some piccies in my own space.

Why do you get the heat? It was pretty average down here today. I dont think im geezah, more skinny gimp! :partyguy:

P.S. Molly, looking through the pics of people thread and was wondering if

A) your Australian?

and

B) have you ever been in neighbours? :btu:

@Pixelherder, no idea how to do that. But thought of putting up small adds in local art shops? maybe one or two colleges?

*off to watch Rocky (I believe 2) and laugh at sillyness*

[Molly]

not being handily located "dahhn sahhffff", i'm looking into some life-drawing classes up here in nottingham. No joy so-far, but i know a few people who might be interested so i'd even consider starting one up myself. The only question would be how.

Anyone got any ideas is this area - venue hire etc. I'd be particularly interested in suggestions on going about getting models without getting slapped/punched/arrested.

aidan

Hey Aidan, not familiar with Nottingham, but there must be a college that does drop in life drawin classes or summink. If ur going to start ur own group, maybe ask a few friends first, see if any are up for modelling. They dont have to be fully naked...Im lucky enough to have one friend whos up for it.(but Im not sure if she'd pose for a group ^_^.) Ask around, if no luck, then try ppl in the street, you never know, nuthin to lose?
Cartoon - 'built-like-a-brick-shit-house' means ur a BIG bloke, so dont mess wit him...;P

Mollyx

[Molly]

It means your well built, or appear to be. I'm usre your a perfectly nice person though, your drawings are good either way ;)

erm, sure this has been worn out but does anyone know of a good free image hosting site, photobucket is down, and I hear has lots of problems. I know nothing bout building web pages for now so that will have to wait, in the mean time im looking to post some piccies in my own space.

Why do you get the heat? It was pretty average down here today. I dont think im geezah, more skinny gimp! :partyguy:

P.S. Molly, looking through the pics of people thread and was wondering if

A) your Australian?

and

B) have you ever been in neighbours? :btu:

@Pixelherder, no idea how to do that. But thought of putting up small adds in local art shops? maybe one or two colleges?

*off to watch Rocky (I believe 2) and laugh at sillyness*

HAHAHAHA - aw man, u crack me up!

A) No, Im not Australian, haha
and
B) never been in Neighbours (tho, comments of a striking resemblance to Libby Kennedy..LOL)

Mollyx